Weight gain again

wurzlitzer

Hi all

Okay guys need some advice,
I am female five foot ten weigh normally ten stone- ten stone four pounds

When I started running in April 2011 I initially weighed ten stone, by the end of October of that year I weighed eleven stone four pounds. I ran a half marathon and DCM. I continued running in 2012, did the Berlin half and a 5 mile. I gave up the running in august 2012. I lost over a stone in a short time.

However I took up running again six weeks ago as I figured I should start training for the DCM 2014 and I have already put on 8 pounds WTF! The idea this time round was not to gain weight, as I reckoned the weight gain before had slowed me down I went from running 10k in 48 mins to running the same distance in 52 mins.

I have been doing yoga and I cycle to and from work. I always have had a huge appetite.

How can I keep my weight down and What is the proper weight that I should be at? Why am I gaining weight when I have started training again. I know muscle weighs more than fat. But to me a gain of a stone is abnormal. Any advice or pointers as where I
may be going wrong.
Thanks

Why do gain weight?

dechol

Simple answer but are you eating too much?? I know when my mileage increased for dcm I was always starving and definitely was eating all around me. I only started losing weight when I cut out the crap and watched my portion size.

wurzlitzer

dechol wrote: »

Simple answer but are you eating too much?? I know when my mileage increased for dcm I was always starving and definitely was eating all around me. I only started losing weight when I cut out the crap and watched my portion size.

I am eating the same, I have always had a huge appetite, so I am eating the same amount as before. However I suppose I could cut out chocolate. TBH I don't eat too much bread. My portions are always huge, but I have been eating the same amount as when I was not running. It's like my metabolic rate slows down. I eat porridge every day all year round. Only change in my diet is that I am back on the bananas 1-2 a day. And a chocolate milk post run. I am currently only running 25 k a week so not too hectic.

Does anyone know what is the ideal weight for a female runner at 5 foot ten so I can aim for that weight.


Does anyone know what the ideal weight is

RayCun

Keep a food diary. You may think you're eating the same as always, but if you're putting on weight it's because you're eating more. And if you have a record of what you eat, it's easier to see what you need to change.

pconn062

wurzlitzer wrote: »

I am eating the same, I have always had a huge appetite, so I am eating the same amount as before. However I suppose I could cut out chocolate. TBH I don't eat too much bread. My portions are always huge, but I have been eating the same amount as when I was not running. It's like my metabolic rate slows down. I eat porridge every day all year round. Only change in my diet is that I am back on the bananas 1-2 a day. And a chocolate milk post run. I am currently only running 25 k a week so not too hectic.

Does anyone know what is the ideal weight for a female runner at 5 foot ten so I can aim for that weight.


Does anyone know what the ideal weight is

Cut the chocolate milk out after every run for a start anyway, I am running 50-60 miles (90-100k) a week and never have chocolate milk after a run. Empty, unnecessary calories, just have some water and a bit of fruit instead if you are hungry. There is no ideal weight for any height, it depends on body shape and size. 5'10" is quite tall for a women and 10 stone doesn't seem too heavy to me, I am a 5'10 male and weigh about 10 and a half stone. Keep a food diary for a week, every single thing you eat and maybe post up a few days info and we might be able to give you some advice.

wrstan

Sometimes the issue is as much about what you eat as how much you eat. There are many different views on diets and programmes and techniques which you can pick up from various sources. Many people who keep a trainign log here have at various times given good details of their diets and nutrition/weight control approach. You can make up your own mind about what works for you.

pconn062 wrote: »

Keep a food diary for a week, every single thing you eat and maybe post up a few days info and we might be able to give you some advice.

This is a good idea, apart from the advice that you might get back here, keeping a diary helps give you an understanding about what impacts on your weight, hunger, etc.

A cretain Clown from around these parts did a really good review of one particular food diary app which might be of some help:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83681999&postcount=5783

Keep us informed!

Krusty_Clown

wrstan wrote: »

A cretain Clown from around these parts did a really good review of one particular food diary app which might be of some help:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83681999&postcount=5783

You spelt cretin wrong!

dna_leri

There are lots of places on the internet like this one that can give you an opinion of what weight you should be.

In your case (I guess) it's more to figure out what causes it to go up and down. I agree with the consensus that a food diary is the best way to start.

A book I have had recommended (but not read) is Matt Fitzgerald's "Racing Weight". In this article, he talks about how to kick start this:

Even runners need to lose weight sometimes. But we can’t do it like couch potatoes.

As an athlete you can’t pursue weight loss the way the average dieter does, through severe caloric restriction. Calories are energy, after all, and you need a lot of energy to train effectively and to recover adequately from workouts. Severe calorie restriction would therefore simply sabotage your efforts to get fit and perform well in races.

You should never try to maximize the shedding of excess body fat and the building of peak race fitness simultaneously. There is an appropriate time to prioritize weight loss, but it’s not within a race-focused training cycle. Rather, it should be done in the several weeks preceding a training cycle. I refer to this period of weight-loss emphasis as a quick start.

Even during a quick start, however, you should not pursue fat loss the same way couch potatoes do. You still have to go after it in a way that supports your running ambitions. In other words, you need to pursue athletic weight loss.

wurzlitzer

Thanks guys. Will start a food diary. I do agree that you have to lose weight before you start training, this is one of the reasons I started back running cause I was carrying less weight.

But I also acknowledge that once you start training that you should not undernourish yourself or else you will burn out.

However my second brekkie has been cut back in calories somewhat so thought I had been good

So cut the chocolate milk ;( out

wurzlitzer

Okay typical day all year round

Breakfast 7.30

Porridge with flaxseed
Pint of Vitamin C with lemon wedges
Tea

Breakfast 11.00
Fruit with natural yogurt
Croissant & Cappuncino jam & butter

Lunch
Usually meat & two veg
Or curry & rice

Evening 4.30
Cup of tea and bar of chocolate

Evening 6.00 banana
Run 50 mins
Chocolate milk

Evening dinner 7.30 to 8.00
Meat & two veg or a curry or spaghetti etc

I very rarely have takeaway etc
I have like this for years but when I train gain weight. So only thing I think of is to cut out the chocolate altogether in solid & milk form.

Thanks guys will keep you posted & will look up krustys food diary

Really want to run the DCM 2014 but this weight gain makes me feel kinda chunky ;D eight pounds is a lot in 6 weeks
I know women

wurzlitzer

pconn062 wrote: »

Cut the chocolate milk out after every run for a start anyway, I am running 50-60 miles (90-100k) a week and never have chocolate milk after a run. Empty, unnecessary calories, just have some water and a bit of fruit instead if you are hungry. There is no ideal weight for any height, it depends on body shape and size. 5'10" is quite tall for a women and 10 stone doesn't seem too heavy to me, I am a 5'10 male and weigh about 10 and a half stone. Keep a food diary for a week, every single thing you eat and maybe post up a few days info and we might be able to give you some advice.

I am not ten stone anymore, I am ten stone 12. When I was running before I was over eleven stone, once I quit running that time my weight dropped to ten stone. Before I started traiing this time round I was ten four, and I could feel the lightness in my body when I ran.

K will take everything on board ;D

pconn062

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Okay typical day all year round

Breakfast 7.30

Porridge with flaxseed
Pint of Vitamin C with lemon wedges
Tea

Breakfast 11.00
Fruit with natural yogurt
Croissant & Cappuncino jam & butter

Lunch
Usually meat & two veg
Or curry & rice

Evening 4.30
Cup of tea and bar of chocolate

Evening 6.00 banana
Run 50 mins
Chocolate milk

Evening dinner 7.30 to 8.00
Meat & two veg or a curry or spaghetti etc

I crossed out the things you can leave out of your diet, a croissant, chocolate bar and chocolate milk is a lot of rubbish to eat in one day. Also you seem to eat two dinners every day?? (Or at least what I would consider dinners). You could replace your lunch "dinner" with a salad and soup, maybe with some pitta bread or some wholegrain crackers.

Clearlier

I do think that the guys in the Health and Fitness forum know their nutrition a bit better than most of us here so it might be worth heading over there.

One piece of information that works for me (when I can stick to it) is to eat more protein and fat and less carbs. The prevailing wisdom about how much carbs you require is way out of sync with reality. If you eat more protein and fat you will feel less hungry and eat less.

rom

- Firstly do you drink? as people often don't include it. Hence why something like myfitnesspal can educate people on what they are taking in.A typical day is not the same as taking an actual diary of all food and drink input for a day. Dietitians normally ask for 3 days for this info.

- I recommend getting one of these. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Salter-Design-Electronic-Platform-Kitchen/dp/B000ZNM51O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378761740&sr=8-1&keywords=food+scales and weighing your plate, zero it out, then put in your food and pop it into myfitnesspal

Okay typical day all year round

Breakfast 7.30

Porridge with flaxseed
- great
Pint of Vitamin C with lemon wedges
- ? why do you drink this
Tea

Breakfast 11.00
Fruit with natural yogurt
- what fruit, how much. Greek style glenisk if you can.
Croissant & Cappuncino jam & butter
- This is treat & treat treat & treat

Lunch
Usually meat & two veg
Or curry & rice
- This is a full dinner for an adult

Evening 4.30
Cup of tea and bar of chocolate
- put the bar into myfitnesspal and you will see you can enjoy a bar over 3 days that just one.

Evening 6.00 banana
Run 50 mins
Chocolate milk
- you don't need a recovery drink that is high in calories like this. basically this is like another dinner in calories. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beet-It-Organic-Beetroot-Juice/dp/B00545CKU4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1378761981&sr=8-2&keywords=beet+root a 200ml glass of this chilled is all you need if you feel you need something. Those recovery drinks are not meant for your daily run.120 cals per 200ml. Your drinks are like 600 cals

1ml = 1gram approx

Evening dinner 7.30 to 8.00
Meat & two veg or a curry or spaghetti etc
- another dinner of calories here. move you dinner back if you can

I very rarely have takeaway etc
I have like this for years but when I train gain weight.
- when you train you gain weight as you reward yourself for going for a run. Why would you reward yourself? A person rewards themself if they don't like what they did or found it hard/ didn't enjoy it. Its as simple as that. If you need to reward yourself after a 50min non session run then you are probably running too fast.

So only thing I think of is to cut out the chocolate altogether in solid & milk form.

Thanks guys will keep you posted & will look up krustys food diary

Really want to run the DCM 2014 but this weight gain makes me feel kinda chunky ;D eight pounds is a lot in 6 weeks
I know women
- I remember gaining weight when running 70 miles a week because of all the reasons I say above. I am presuming alot but this is exactly what the case was for me.

- So what you need to do ?
- Install myfitnesspal on your phone
- watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M65dXyXtJbA series and use the app for a few weeks to educate yourself. put all drinks in also.
- do you honestly eat nothing from 8pm to bed ?

- drink more water.
- bring your own lunch to work (i presume your eating the mid day meal at work). You have no idea how much butter etc goes into it if it is.
- throw out all sauce jars from the press and never bug that sugar again.

PS you eat much more than me and I am 72kg 5'10 male.

Personally I don't think calorie counting works in the long run and it gives a negative feeling towards food but making someone make the right choices is best.

wurzlitzer

Cheers guys

As regards the vitamin c it is for my skin
I eat natural Live yogurt with strawberries blueberries apple pear

The dinners I bring into work are usually home cooked, & on the odd day I bring in salad.

I have always had two breakfasts & two dinners since leaving school.

Very rarely eat later than 9 pm maybe a bowl of noodles if get home too late to cook dinner. I cook everything from scratch

It's the chocolate milk & chocolate going cut out a few things & will post again in a few weeks to let you know how I get on.

I cycle to and from work

Cabaal

wurzlitzer wrote: »

I have always had two breakfasts & two dinners since leaving school.

Keep in mind its possible your metabolism is slowing down and as such doing this may be starting to have an affect on your weight.

As your having porridge this should do your breakfast perfectly fine, the likes of the Croissant and jam etc is giving you lots of extra and likely unneeded calorie's

frash

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Okay typical day all year round

Breakfast 7.30

Porridge with flaxseed
Pint of Vitamin C with lemon wedges
Tea

Breakfast 11.00
Fruit with natural yogurt
Croissant & Cappuncino jam & butter

Lunch
Usually meat & two veg
Or curry & rice

Evening 4.30
Cup of tea and bar of chocolate

Evening 6.00 banana
Run 50 mins
Chocolate milk

Evening dinner 7.30 to 8.00
Meat & two veg or a curry or spaghetti etc

I very rarely have takeaway etc
I have like this for years but when I train gain weight. So only thing I think of is to cut out the chocolate altogether in solid & milk form.

Thanks guys will keep you posted & will look up krustys food diary

Really want to run the DCM 2014 but this weight gain makes me feel kinda chunky ;D eight pounds is a lot in 6 weeks
I know women

I'm a 14 stone man & I wouldn't eat half that amount!

chainsawman

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Okay typical day all year round

Breakfast 7.30

Porridge with flaxseed
Pint of Vitamin C with lemon wedges
Tea

Breakfast 11.00
Fruit with natural yogurt
Croissant & Cappuncino jam & butter

Lunch
Usually meat & two veg
Or curry & rice

Evening 4.30
Cup of tea and bar of chocolate

Evening 6.00 banana
Run 50 mins
Chocolate milk

Evening dinner 7.30 to 8.00
Meat & two veg or a curry or spaghetti etc

I very rarely have takeaway etc
I have like this for years but when I train gain weight. So only thing I think of is to cut out the chocolate altogether in solid & milk form.

Thanks guys will keep you posted & will look up krustys food diary

Really want to run the DCM 2014 but this weight gain makes me feel kinda chunky ;D eight pounds is a lot in 6 weeks
I know women

Banana is worth six teaspoon of sugar.
Bowl of Rice is worth nine teaspoon of sugar. Fried rice is lesser.
Try cut down on those.

chainsawman

frash wrote: »

I'm a 14 stone man & I wouldn't eat half that amount!

Me too. I am 14 stone man 5.10 tall and only eat three times daily, Corn Flakes for breakie, Sandwiche and coffee for lunch and normal dinner. Sometimes a one or two biscuit and coffee for night time , I walked 4/5 a week that 60 klm a week including walking to work and return.

Cartman78

Have you considered that part of the weight gain might be down to muscle growth? Not sure how much training you're doing exactly but it might explain some of the increase perhaps.

Your diet is undoubtedly playing a part in the weight gain - I would suggest cutting out a couple of snacks and cutting down dramatically on one of lunch or dinner. Keep the chocolate milk maybe as a treat for long runs only - no need for it really after regular midweek efforts.

Good luck with the running & hope you get to do DCM

RayCun

Adding my voice to the chorus -

cut out the croissant in the morning
halve the size of your lunch
drop the chocolate bar with tea
drop the chocolate milk

TFBubendorfer

RayCun wrote: »

Adding my voice to the chorus -

cut out the croissant in the morning
halve the size of your lunch
drop the chocolate bar with tea
drop the chocolate milk

Jesus, you are guys are starting to get depressing. Some people like their treats.

RayCun

Yeah, but if you have them every day they're not treats

pconn062

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Jesus, you are guys are starting to get depressing. Some people like their treats.

All those things are not treats, it's overeating. If the OP was having only one of those things a day even, then fair enough you could call it a treat, but all that every day is a lot.
Plus she came on asking for advice about her diet, and we are just pointing out the glaringly obvious things, she's not obliged to follow our advice.

TFBubendorfer

RayCun wrote: »

Yeah, but if you have them every day they're not treats

pconn062 wrote: »

All those things are not treats, it's overeating. If the OP was having only one of those things a day even, then fair enough you could call it a treat, but all that every day is a lot.
Plus she came on asking for advice about her diet, and we are just pointing out the glaringly obvious things, she's not obliged to follow our advice.

All fair enough and true, but I subscribe to the theory that a little bit of naughty is always allowed. Granted, not 4 times a day, every day.

Faith+1

pconn062 wrote: »

Cut the chocolate milk out after every run for a start anyway, I am running 50-60 miles (90-100k) a week and never have chocolate milk after a run. Empty, unnecessary calories, just have some water and a bit of fruit instead if you are hungry. There is no ideal weight for any height, it depends on body shape and size. 5'10" is quite tall for a women and 10 stone doesn't seem too heavy to me, I am a 5'10 male and weigh about 10 and a half stone. Keep a food diary for a week, every single thing you eat and maybe post up a few days info and we might be able to give you some advice.

Impressive.

wurzlitzer

Well guys Just reading through posts ye make me laugh I know I am glutton.
Well today
Breakfast 7.30
Huge bowl of porridge
Breakfast 11.00
Yogurt with fruit apple & grapes
Resisted croissant but a colleague noticed I had none so bought me butter scone & Jam!

Salad with tuna for lunch

No chocolate bar with afternoon tea

Now I am having chicken curry & rice

Go me!
Came back from run did 9 km no chocolate milk ;(

Krusty_Clown

Well done wurzlitzer. The best thing about the running/eating equation is that the more you run, the more you can eat! Tuck into a few more miles, and you can enjoy that Chocolate milk, without these internet spoil-sports ruining all the fun.

rom

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Well guys Just reading through posts ye make me laugh I know I am glutton.
Well today
Breakfast 7.30
Huge bowl of porridge
Breakfast 11.00
Yogurt with fruit apple & grapes
Resisted croissant but a colleague noticed I had none so bought me butter scone & Jam!

Salad with tuna for lunch

No chocolate bar with afternoon tea

Now I am having chicken curry & rice

Go me!
Came back from run did 9 km no chocolate milk ;(

Do you use a garmin etc. What is your 5k PB and what is the pace you do the 9k at. If you feel you need a drink like that other than it being a session but if its a normal run then you are probably running too fast. Personally I would have something after a really long run or a session. Normally its beetroot juice or a shake if its the long run like 18+ miles with PMP miles.

wurzlitzer

My fastest 5k PB was 22 mins,
& my 10k usually round the 54 min mark at min. That fastest I have done is 48 in the past.
I have been doing 9k twice a week and I usually do those in 48 mins, and three 5k runs three times a week and I would usually run them in 24 mins.
I have been doing 25-33 k/week on average just for the last six weeks. I cycle over 90 k a week to and from work

After having my dinner there and I am still starving, going reach for the cured salami in the fridge

Guys what's with the beetroot juice or beet it! yuck!

Only messing

rom

wurzlitzer wrote: »

My fastest 5k PB was 22 mins,
& my 10k usually round the 54 min mark at min. That fastest I have done is 48 in the past.
I have been doing 9k twice a week and I usually do those in 48 mins, and three 5k runs three times a week and I would usually run them in 24 mins.
I have been doing 25-33 k/week on average just for the last six weeks. I cycle over 90 k a week to and from work

After having my dinner there and I am still starving, going reach for the cured salami in the fridge

Guys what's with the beetroot juice or beet it! yuck!

Only messing

If your fastest 5k is 22:xx and your running your 5ks at 24 mins during the week. Looks like you need to slow down. Going fast on each run is not the way to improve. Also it burns off all your sugars and then leaves you drained and craving food and does not burn fat. Slowing down burns fat more, leaves you less drained so that you don't crave sugary foods.

woodchopper

rom wrote: »

If your fastest 5k is 22:xx and your running your 5ks at 24 mins during the week. Looks like you need to slow down. Going fast on each run is not the way to improve. Also it burns off all your sugars and then leaves you drained and craving food and does not burn fat. Slowing down burns fat more, leaves you less drained so that you don't crave sugary foods.

You have been spouting rubbish on this thread for a number of days now. Heaven forbid that an athlete is drained from training!

wurzlitzer

rom wrote: »

If your fastest 5k is 22:xx and your running your 5ks at 24 mins during the week. Looks like you need to slow down. Going fast on each run is not the way to improve. Also it burns off all your sugars and then leaves you drained and craving food and does not burn fat. Slowing down burns fat more, leaves you less drained so that you don't crave sugary foods.

Okay, yeah there are days I run those 5k in 26 or as slow as 30 too!

Sometimes my 9 ks are 54 when I am feeling tired.

Thanks will take that on board, will slow down. So what should I be doing my 5k in instead? Taking on board I am aiming for DCM 2014

pconn062

wurzlitzer wrote: »

My fastest 5k PB was 22 mins,
& my 10k usually round the 54 min mark at min. That fastest I have done is 48 in the past.
I have been doing 9k twice a week and I usually do those in 48 mins, and three 5k runs three times a week and I would usually run them in 24 mins.
I have been doing 25-33 k/week on average just for the last six weeks. I cycle over 90 k a week to and from work

After having my dinner there and I am still starving, going reach for the cured salami in the fridge

Guys what's with the beetroot juice or beet it! yuck!

Only messing

Trust me, you don't need to drink beetroot juice, it's just the latest fad!

woodchopper

chainsawman wrote: »

Me too. I am 14 stone man 5.10 tall and only eat three times daily, Corn Flakes for breakie, Sandwiche and coffee for lunch and normal dinner. Sometimes a one or two biscuit and coffee for night time , I walked 4/5 a week that 60 klm a week including walking to work and return.

If you ate 5 times a day Id reckon you would way 12 and a half stone. Eating regularly speeds up the metabolism. Also maize, coffee, gluten bread and whatever a normal dinner aint good for you.

woodchopper

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Okay, yeah there are days I run those 5k in 26 or as slow as 30 too!

Sometimes my 9 ks are 54 when I am feeling tired.

Thanks will take that on board, will slow down. So what should I be doing my 5k in instead? Taking on board I am aiming for DCM 2014

Bonjour Madame,

Just run by feel and run a good solid effort and forget about time. A lot of these fools on this forum have been brainwashed into thinking that running slowww is good for you.

wurzlitzer

pconn062 wrote: »

Trust me, you don't need to drink beetroot juice, it's just the latest fad!

Also apart from Tasting disgusting...
It's just I would be careful drinking anything such as beetroot juice, as I have heard through word of mouth that gone-off or spoiled beetroot juice can give you a bad dose of the runs literally....

woodchopper

chainsawman wrote: »

Banana is worth six teaspoon of sugar.
Bowl of Rice is worth nine teaspoon of sugar. Fried rice is lesser.
Try cut down on those.

Good Grief!

A banana is worth 6 spoons of sugar?

Six teaspoons equates to about 300 calories.

A banana consists of 180 calories.

Also there is a big difference in the natural sugars accurring in fruit and the refined sugar you get in a bag of sugra. The body cannot break down refined sugar and thus it is sent to the liver where it is turned into fat. A bloody banana does not do this.

gordongekko

RayCun wrote: »

Adding my voice to the chorus -

cut out the croissant in the morning
halve the size of your lunch
drop the chocolate bar with tea
drop the chocolate milk

sounds like you might be better off just cutting out the running.

I'm guessing its a bit of muscle gain and a bit of overeating

wurzlitzer

gordongekko wrote: »

sounds like you might be better off just cutting out the running.

I'm guessing its a bit of muscle gain and a bit of overeating

Won't be cutting it out completely. No enjoying it too much this time round.
However the only extra has been the bananas & milk. My muscles are definitely on the gain I noticed today for the first time that my hamstrings are beginning to bulge. Will keep up 5k three times a week & cut out the longer 9k runs once the winter sets in & start afresh in with the serious training.
Is metabolic rate connected with heart rate? My resting heart rate is currently 44

pconn062

wurzlitzer wrote: »

Won't be cutting it out completely. No enjoying it too much this time round.
However the only extra has been the bananas & milk. My muscles are definitely on the gain I noticed today for the first time that my hamstrings are beginning to bulge. Will keep up 5k three times a week & cut out the longer 9k runs once the winter sets in & start afresh in with the serious training.
Is metabolic rate connected with heart rate? My resting heart rate is currently 44

Don't over complicate it wurzlitzer, just enjoy your running, do all your runs by feel and don't worry about pace. If you feel good, then speed up and if you don't feel great then slow down. Also cut down on some of the junk but allow yourself the occasional treat, you're not a pro after all and we all like a bit of junk!

RayCun

wurzlitzer wrote: »

However the only extra has been the bananas & milk.

That seems unlikely. Unless you are drinking a lot of chocolate milk and eating a lot of bananas, they're not going to make you gain weight while you run.
More likely that you have been increasing portion sizes, eg

Breakfast 7.30
Huge bowl of porridge

and the same with lunch and dinner. Since you're making them yourself, it's easy to add extra rice/potatoes/pasta to your dinner without really noticing, or think "sure I ran today I need more".

chainsawman

woodchopper wrote: »

Good Grief!

A banana is worth 6 spoons of sugar?

Six teaspoons equates to about 300 calories.

A banana consists of 180 calories.

Also there is a big difference in the natural sugars accurring in fruit and the refined sugar you get in a bag of sugra. The body cannot break down refined sugar and thus it is sent to the liver where it is turned into fat. A bloody banana does not do this.

I just saw on internet , Dr Charles Clark Nutriton Expert. I have check the suagar content in your diet leaflet with me. You might find it on charles website. That what he tells me about banana .

cianc

woodchopper wrote: »

Six teaspoons equates to about 300 calories.

Got a reference for that? Google (and other sites) is telling me about 16 calories per teaspoon. So about 100 calories for six.

woodchopper

ciancullinan wrote: »

Got a reference for that? Google (and other sites) is telling me about 16 calories per teaspoon. So about 100 calories for six.

Im not at liberty to reveal my sources on a public forum Cian of the Cullinans

Cartman78

ciancullinan wrote: »

Got a reference for that? Google (and other sites) is telling me about 16 calories per teaspoon. So about 100 calories for six.

It's simple...his teaspoon is clearly the size of a small shovel

chainsawman

woodchopper wrote: »

Im not at liberty to reveal my sources on a public forum Cian of the Cullinans

At least Cian of the Cullinans is honest to reveal his investigations. Why not reveal yours to prove us wrong ? Evidence speaks louder than words.

woodchopper

chainsawman wrote: »

At least Cian of the Cullinans is honest to reveal his investigations. Why not reveal yours to prove us wrong ? Evidence speaks louder than words.

Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant. Keep eating your teaspoons of sugar on your bowl of cornflakes and you will never get rid of all that unwanted weight. Replace it with agave honey. Good luck on the long road ahead.

cianc

woodchopper wrote: »

Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant.

I love this thread, please don't stop.

ecoli

Mod: Play nice boys and girls

ecoli

woodchopper wrote: »

Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant. Keep eating your teaspoons of sugar on your bowl of cornflakes and you will never get rid of all that unwanted weight. Replace it with agave honey. Good luck on the long road ahead.

I would be more worried about the amount of sugar in cornflakes than the teaspoons over it to be honest.

With regard to "evidence" that can pop up on I would be vary wary both of the credibility and the motives behind any study. The nutrition industry can be a proverbial minefield of information

Case and point:

http://www.brennansbread.ie/fresh-idea/ireland-loves-white-bread/