FUKUSHIMA

shane9689

well,
what do you all make of this?
Chernobyl all over again?

i believe so anyways, i dont see how they can possibly contain it if its already this bad, except this is worse because japan is a very crowded island unlike free roaming ukraine

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0901/471498-fukushima-radiation/

wonderfullife

who's Shima?

somefeen

Bit of wavin, be grand

Duggy747

Mop and bucket will take care of it..............until the radiation mutates them into sentient beings.

Yakult

nuke em

MonaPizza

shane9689 wrote: »

well,
what do you all make of this?
Chernobyl all over again?

i believe so anyways, i dont see how they can possibly contain it if its already this bad, except this is worse because japan is a very crowded island unlike free roaming ukraine

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0901/471498-fukushima-radiation/

I was called a tin-foil hat wearing alarmist for stating that this was a catastrophe a year ago.
Can't be arsed commenting anymore. I was even called a nut for suggesting that more than 100,000 were killed in Iraq.

Jesus Wept

Bit of flat 7up, be grand.

Wompa1

MonaPizza wrote: »

I was called a tin-foil hat wearing alarmist for stating that this was a catastrophe a year ago.
Can't be arsed commenting anymore. I was even called a nut for suggesting that more than 100,000 were killed in Iraq.

Welcome to the internet

Royal Irish

Yakult wrote: »

nuke em

Again.

Donaldio

I dont think it as a bad as Chernobyl it is up to them to try and contain that and i would imagine in there own intrest. Most of the fallout from Chernobyl landed in Belarus i think and the Japanese have allredy been nuked. Japan is geographically sinking into the sea so it is probably madness to have nuclear reactors there anyway even beside the coast where they might likely get more earthquakes.

jimeryan22

Dump liquid nitrogen on it.. Job done

Donaldio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNO2sSW-mU

jimeryan22

Donaldio wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNO2sSW-mU

Had hoped for more from it... :-(

smellmepower

Hard to tell because the crowd who were in charge of the plant have been lying about how bad things are there up until last week,and the Japanese govt probably aren't too keen on the real facts getting out either.

Son Of A Vidic

MonaPizza wrote: »

I was called a tin-foil hat wearing alarmist for stating that this was a catastrophe a year ago.
Can't be arsed commenting anymore...

You just commented.

The Tepco spokesman also said the higher level of radiation from the latest reading was partly because investigators had used a measuring instrument capable of registering greater amounts of radiation.
Instruments used previously had only been capable of measuring radiation up to 100 millisieverts, but the new instruments were able to measure up to 10,000 millisieverts.

Wtf. Even if they had risen before now, it would have just showed up as 100?

Pensivepuca

Thanks for creating this, I was looking yesterday for the very long old thread on this but gave up thinking no one gave a fook. I am not a nuclear expert, and failed chemistry class, but is it right to think that the radioactive liquid that is leaking could 'eat' the floor its on and get into the soil/water underground? I am always concerned about Japan with this, they do not seem very open.

shedweller

Pensivepuca wrote: »

Thanks for creating this, I was looking yesterday for the very long old thread on this but gave up thinking no one gave a fook. I am not a nuclear expert, and failed chemistry class, but is it right to think that the radioactive liquid that is leaking could 'eat' the floor its on and get into the soil/water underground? I am always concerned about Japan with this, they do not seem very open.

I dont think so. Its just that most floors in the area are cracked to hell and the radioactive water simply leaks out. It looks like any other water too, not green glowing toxic sludge!

Hootanany

I Predict Godzilla in 2 years time.

B.A._Baracus

Deleted User wrote: »

Wtf. Even if they had risen before now, it would have just showed up as 100?

Sounds very strange, alright.
I mean it doesnt matter what you would be measuring. If it exceeds your measuring tool you have to assume it's greater than lol. An apprentice carpenter wouldnt make that mistake :pac: Being honest it sounds like some sort of lazy lie to cover up something.

petes

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Bit of flat 7up, be grand.

Heated red lemonade would do the job better!

Akrasia

I would imagine that there is an enormous amount of beaurocracy attached to the reporting of this issue and that the information is very carefully controlled by state agencies. TEPCO is a private company and they are trying to play down the scale of the problem, but the Japanse government aren't in any hurry to force TEPCO to improve their reporting if the news is going to be negative and damaging to the Japanese reputation or economic interests.

The worst thing they can do is to play down the problem and hope that it just goes away but It is in the interests of the Japanese political class to make it appear that the situation is under control and the problem is getting fixed, but this is just short-termism and it would be far better if they were open about the problem and were seeking assistance from the international community for any steps that can be taken to contain this problem.

The international atomic energency agency should start to look at possible sanctions for the mis-handling of this crisis. We can't just trust that the Japanese authorities are going to be transparent and honest about the scale of this problem

force eleven

It's looking bad for years to come for Japan and the Pacific Ocean as radiation seeps quietly around the land and sea and into the food chain. They have loads of tanks full of radioactive cooling water and nowhere to put it. Something has to give. People tend to forget about it here, 8,000 miles away,it won't affect us but if it keeps leaking, we'll get it eventually through food.
Put it this way, I wouldn't be happy living in California over the next few years.

Auldloon

petes wrote: »

Heated red lemonade would do the job better!

Oh great now all we need is some eegit to mix red with white.

Mr Benevolent

In the 90's TEPCO used homeless people to help manually remove reactor rods, the rationale being that homeless people usually don't complain when they get paid. When the homeless people died from radiation poisoning, TEPCO would just pay off their families. The Japanese attitude to life makes the Irish look competent and humane.

Canis Lupus

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

In the 90's TEPCO used homeless people to help manually remove reactor rods, the rationale being that homeless people usually don't complain when they get paid. When the homeless people died from radiation poisoning, TEPCO would just pay off their families. The Japanese attitude to life makes the Irish look competent and humane.

You got anything to prove that or you just making it up?

rockbeast

Yeah, well...FUK YOU, SHIMA, too.

RB

PS went out with a Finnish girl called Shima once. She was scary:D

shane9689

on the plus side, they might get a strong wind blowing into korea...thus sending radiation straight into the fat face of the "dear leader"

MOC88

Isn't this only worse in the last month or so - they're very worried about one of the cooler pipes decaying/leaking and they've no way to fix it if it is - they're not sure whether it is or not though. Vaguely remember reading an article on it... open to correction here obviously

tosspot15

not even close to chernobyl. Its just the press blowing this way out of proportion and scaremongering.

Inbox

Send in the liquidators!!!

Driveby Dogboy

tosspot15 wrote: »

not even close to chernobyl. Its just the press blowing this way out of proportion and scaremongering.

Yeah, it's the total opposite side of the world, Although the fallout is blowing way out to the ocean, and scaring the fishmongers...

tosspot15

Driveby Dogboy wrote: »

Yeah, it's the total opposite side of the world, Although the fallout is blowing way out to the ocean, and scaring the fishmongers...

No as in, the fallout isnt even dangerous. The effects of it are miniscule.

_Redzer_

Pfft. Yeah I bet Fukushima wishes it was Chernobyl doesn't it

Eight Ball

It's running away from them without a doubt. Very worrying if you live in Tokyo or the region in general.

drunkmonkey

It's expected to hit the North Coast of America in 2014 and build up there, you can forget about eating fish from anywhere in the pacific for the next 100 years.
Nuclear Expert on Telly Yesterday said that it will take at least 50 to 100 years just to get under control, you can't bury this one in cement he said.

Dj Grimreefer

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thisonetaken

tosspot15 wrote: »

No as in, the fallout isnt even dangerous. The effects of it are miniscule.

Oh really, have you been to the region to carry out extensive tests to confirm this? If so you should send the results of those tests to all the nuclear experts who are saying the exact opposite.

thisonetaken

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's expected to hit the North Coast of America in 2014 and build up there, you can forget about eating fish from anywhere in the pacific for the next 100 years.

Should mean a boost to our meat and fish exports

bizmark

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's expected to hit the North Coast of America in 2014 and build up there, you can forget about eating fish from anywhere in the pacific for the next 100 years.
Nuclear Expert on Telly Yesterday said that it will take at least 50 to 100 years just to get under control, you can't bury this one in cement he said.

Largest ocean on the planets fish stock is completely off limits now due to a few tons of radioactive water eh ?

Seems abit alarmist one wonders how the planet survived being so fragile

drunkmonkey

bizmark wrote: »

Largest ocean on the planets fish stock is completely off limits now due to a few tons of radioactive water eh ?

Seems abit alarmist one wonders how the planet survived being so fragile

A few tons?? Are you paying attention at all, they've 300,000 tons of contaminated water in storage and there going to offload into the pacific not to mention what's already gone in and the couple of hundred tons there producing every day.

I wouldn't swim in the pacific let alone eat something from it, America's west cost has a monumental disaster floating it's way not to mention every other country in the basin.

Mr Benevolent

tosspot15 wrote: »

No as in, the fallout isnt even dangerous. The effects of it are miniscule.

3 reactors ruptured explosively. 2 underwent uncontrolled criticality. Miniscule is definitely the word.

drunkmonkey

See they've decided to build an Ice wall to hold in the radiation contaminated water http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23940214

It's like a bad 70's disaster movie, I'm just waiting for Leslie Neilson to show up in a hard hat with captain birds eye shortly to tell us everything is under control.

General General

Don't bury your head in the sand around Fukushima....

MonaPizza

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

You just commented.

True....but not on Fukushima

MonaPizza

Pensivepuca wrote: »

Thanks for creating this, I was looking yesterday for the very long old thread on this but gave up thinking no one gave a fook. I am not a nuclear expert, and failed chemistry class, but is it right to think that the radioactive liquid that is leaking could 'eat' the floor its on and get into the soil/water underground? I am always concerned about Japan with this, they do not seem very open.

It's a very real possibility that the whole shebang could burn down through the flooring/ground structure and completely contaminate the water table.

MonaPizza

tosspot15 wrote: »

No as in, the fallout isnt even dangerous. The effects of it are miniscule.

Are you an expert on the effects of radiation and radioactive contamination? This crap is leaking into the ocean and all fishing in the area is banned. There has been a 30% increase in thyroid birth defects in California in newborns since this thing melted down and started spilling into the sea of Japan. Oh and this article seems to suggest that it is as bad if not worse than Chernobyl:

http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-water-now-at-fukushima-plant-has-3-times-more-cesium-than-chernobyl-released-that-underscores-the-scale-of-this-never-ending-threat

So please enlighten us, oh wise one, how much you know and how you know that this is much ado about nothing and that there is no real hazard involved here at all.

danniemcq

drunkmonkey wrote: »

See they've decided to build an Ice wall to hold in the radiation contaminated water http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23940214

It's like a bad 70's disaster movie, I'm just waiting for Leslie Neilson to show up in a hard hat with captain birds eye shortly to tell us everything is under control.

before saying he picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue

donegal_road

Fukushima radiation map

tosspot15

MonaPizza wrote: »

Are you an expert on the effects of radiation and radioactive contamination? This crap is leaking into the ocean and all fishing in the area is banned. There has been a 30% increase in thyroid birth defects in California in newborns since this thing melted down and started spilling into the sea of Japan. Oh and this article seems to suggest that it is as bad if not worse than Chernobyl:

http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-water-now-at-fukushima-plant-has-3-times-more-cesium-than-chernobyl-released-that-underscores-the-scale-of-this-never-ending-threat

So please enlighten us, oh wise one, how much you know and how you know that this is much ado about nothing and that there is no real hazard involved here at all.

As bad as Chernobyl? My god people really are scaremongered by the media.

Chernobyl workers cleaning up the disaster couldnt spend more than a few minutes on the site without receiving fatal radiation doses. A huge portion of the workers died as a result.

The doses of radiation are waaaay less. See this for clarification http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Radiation_Dose_Chart_by_Xkcd.png

10 minutes next to the chernobyl disaster = 50Sv
maximum dose received by two fukushima workers = 180 mSv
Average dose received by fukushima workers today = 67mSv
average dose received by people living around fukushima = 68mSv

1 mSv = 0.001 SV

Anything above 1Sv is considered likely to cause cancer.

An CT scan is 30mSv

Animals and people around fukushima have hardly been effected. The 30km exclusion zone is voluntary. The leak the other day was a tiny little leak in a pipe that was patched up with tape.

And as for California, thats also scaremongering crap. The whole incident is cause for concern and efforts to stop the leak obviously, but its absolutely nowhere near the levels of chernobyl. There is a huge percentage of people in Ireland with "thyroid defects", due to low iodine in the soil and nobody even knows they have it and it doesnt negatively affect their lives.

drunkmonkey

Patched up with a piece of tape??? They did what?