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NYC Vs. London: Where Would You Rather Live?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    The other thing about NYC is there is very little division between public and private because people spend so little time at home. They treat you the same way they treat their families. What you see is what you get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Yeah. Like I said. Its not really rudeness, its impatience. Londoners have it too I think. Its just expected. And its expected that everyone will ask the way once in a while, even locals, so you dont need to make excuses and tell your life story just ask.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    New York and take advantage of cheap flights to see other parts of America if you can. The comment about the alpha male in NYC vs London is a little incorrect. If you've ever dealt with Brits working in London in Management, Business, Marketing etc. they all have that sh1thead big up themselves attitude. Don't let that sway you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    New Yorkers will think you are the rude one if you take up their time or waste their time. They very direct because they are very busy.

    Don't waste my time is the golden rule in NYC. If you break it, you are the rude one and they will let you know!

    How rude!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    I suppose London's the better choice if you wanted to stay in the British Isles.

    NYC would be the more attractive, didn't John Lennon say that NYC was to London what London was to Liverpool, for all it's supposed brashness I'd say NYC was a friendlier and more open city and culture, London's OK out to a certain radius then the sourpuss South East of England mentality hits once you get to the outer suburbs and the home counties.

    Probably better transport in NYC as well and the pubs open until 4am.










    ( British Isles was a wind up btw ;) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    Did you know you're 10 times more likely to get mugged in London than you are in New York City?

    That's because you don't live in New York City


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭cena


    If you have family in nyc go over to them. London can ben seen anytime.

    There is more to do in nyc sports wise if your into it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    London without a doubt. You could fly to NYC any time you wanted for a break. London has so much to offer, and its so close to us here! With Londons massive Tube/Bus network u can easily find cheap accom outside Central London.

    London is a great place to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Days 298


    Kruse wrote: »
    I've been given an opportunity to work in one of these two cities. The thing is I can't decide which one. So today the good people of AH will decide my life for the foreseeable future. Whichever AH chooses, I shall book my flight and report back accordingly.

    New York hands down if it was me. You can live and work in Europe whenever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    Ruubot2 wrote: »
    Enjoyed living in London. NYC would be seems very competitive at the moment and wins many of the 'rudest' people to be around contests.

    Can see why too... idiot tourists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Kruse wrote: »
    Am I right in these findings?

    No. That's all stereotypical nonsense. There's 8 million people in NYC, so many different ways of life.

    And in my experience, the people in London were colder and more inclined to rush around and be no-nonsense or whatever, didn't find that at all in NYC (and was surprised, considering that people often say the kind of things you had in your post).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭carlmango11


    This is a really interesting one for me. I am obsessed with London and have wanted to move there for years. Then I moved to New York and I'm starting to become indecisive.

    Firstly, New Yorkers aren't rude at all. They're actually really friendly and talkative. I've been approached on the street and asked if I needed directions twice, just because me and my friend were looking at the subway map on my phone choosing our quickest route home.

    If you're standing in people's way or delaying trains then yeah, you'll get a nasty comment but it's the exact same in London. In London, however, I find it's more passive aggressive whereas in NYC the people are very outspoken. The British and Irish are very reserved in public - which to be honest, I prefer. Americans are very loud and confident which irritates me at times.

    I think I'd still choose London. It's so close to home in many more ways than geographically. Friends will visit more often and you can go home more often - this is a big bonus when you're alone in a new city.

    EDIT: Also, I think New York gets hyped up a LOT by American films, music etc. A lot of people might just instantly say NYC because it's made out to be this amazing paradise. Keep that in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    NYC be a far more interesting place to work if you've lived in Ireland all your life ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    New Yorkers will think you are the rude one if you take up their time or waste their time. They very direct because they are very busy.

    Don't waste my time is the golden rule in NYC. If you break it, you are the rude one and they will let you know!

    Busy? they need to learn some manners more like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Never been to New York, but I'm pretty happy living in London...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    It depends. If it's a job for a year or 2, New York definitely. If it's for the rest of your life, London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    The notion of people in London being rude bastards is often grossly overestimated in my opinion. While the pace of the commute (and life in general) is very fast and people are expected to know what to do/where they're going etc, I've never seen anyone stuck for help when they've needed it. A question in a train carriage about destination etc will always yield a few people offering help and advice. A woman with a buggy will always get a helping hand at the steps without having to ask; the same for elderly people and heavy bags. If you block subway walks or stand on the top of escalators you may (rightly) draw people's ire but this will rarely be in the form of outspoken abuse. A dirty look is the most likely thing you're going to get.

    While New York and London are fantastic cities offering a wealth of diversity and opportunity they are also places that you need to work at to get the most out of them. It's very easy to get stuck in a rut as easily in London as it is anywhere else. I know people who work in the same job, drink in the same handful of pubs and hang around with the same circle of people without branching into anything new. There is so much to take advantage from in living in London/New York you owe it yourself to do a small bit of exploring.

    While I love London, if I was you and had the opportunity to get an immediate set up in New York for a small bit I'd do that. London is a great spot but it will always be there; a chance to get a quick start in America sounds like the better bet for the time being in my opinion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    London, for sure. As attractive as NYC is, London just has it all. And we don't get all hysterical about stuff...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 resnatop


    Well, being a London boy, this might be fairly biased, but there is no place like London. It is extremely multicultural and that makes a place great, just because you have a bigger mix of people from different backgrounds. If you take the part that I am from, Croydon, the progression of people is fascinating. In the 60s and 70s, the West Indies and Africans moved in force, and influenced London culture to the max. From what music we listen to, how we speak and just generally act. In the 80s up to now, we have had the migration of far more Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi people. This has started to impact on culture also.

    So for culture, and an enjoyable day to day life, London would be my choice.

    I have been to New York, and it just felt fake. I went to the Bronx and Brooklyn, it felt exactly the same as Manhattan. Boring, mundane and oh so bogus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,223 ✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    Firstly, New Yorkers aren't rude at all. They're actually really friendly and talkative. I've been approached on the street and asked if I needed directions twice, just because me and my friend were looking at the subway map on my phone choosing our quickest route home.

    I've found this as well. When I was there years ago, we approached a woman walking her dog. She was a bit suspicious of us at first but when she heard the Irish accent and that we were only looking for directions she was very friendly and helpful.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    I wouldn't live in London again for a banker's salary.

    Well. maybe for a banker' salary but nothing less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭MonaPizza


    It all depends. If you have some awesome job paying you 6 figures and providing you with accommodation, etc. then New York would be good. If you're going there to work in a bar then it's not so easy. I lived in New York for a few years and enjoyed it but got sick of the place. Yeah there are great restaurants, etc but how often do you really dine out? I worked in Manhattan and lived on Long Island. After a while it all becomes the same. And the amount of homelessness and poverty in New York is absolutely appalling. You witness some people that would resemble Tom Hanks in Castaway. It's expensive too if you like drinking and / or smoking. And they have retarded laws where you can't sit outside and have a beer and a smoke.
    New York women are difficult too. Sure you'll get the leg over once in a while but half the time it will be with some neurotic nutcase. London women are much more down to earth. If you like British TV/Sports then be prepared to see a lot less of it and have to suffer those infernal American chat shows and their fake "news" broadcasts. If you want to want a football match you'll have to get yourself to the pub at 10 am for a 3pm GMT kickoff.
    Winters in New York can be bitterly cold and Summers can be stifling.

    London has the same plusses and minuses. Both cities are great if you've got a few extra pennies. London's parks are fab and you have more stuff readily at your fingertips, little underground soul clubs, curry houses all over the place. Good pubs with beer gardens and ultra-crappy pubs too. The Tube is better than the New York Subway which stinks to high heaven of piss most days. Also if you get sick of the place and want to get away for a weekend you can easily hop on a train and go down to Devon or up to Chester or Liverpool for a change of scenery. If you want to change countries for a weekend you can jump on a plane and be in Amsterdam in less than an hour or Paris or Munich / Berlin in about 2. Can't really do that in New York. Sick of Manhattan? where you going to go? Philadelphia? Boston? DC? for more of the same?

    I'd go with the London option...but that just because I've "been there, done that" regarding NYC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    London is a great city and I prefer it over New York as a city.

    BUT - given the choice of one to work in (and bearing in mind I've already workied in and around London) I'd have to give New York a go.

    But it depends on location, what your company will pay you, standard of living you'd be getting...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    London.
    I have friends living in NYC in well paying jobs and they either pay through the ****ing nose for rent in ****ty apartments down town or commute for about 90 minutes from Staten Island/Queens/Jersey/Upstate and either complain about the city being to expensive of their commute being too long.
    New York is a great place, but **** living their.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    New York by a long shot. London transport system sucks.

    I really don't know how you can say that? I lived in London for 10 years before I moved to Dublin. Now, if you want a transport system that sucks?

    The tube moved a billion people around London last year. I know sometimes trains are cancelled but really, the vast majority run and run on time. I love the idea of going down into the ground and coming up a couple of miles away.

    The buses are even better, once you get to know the routes.
    except if it gets too hot, then they are unbearable.

    I'd choose NYC though, in a heartbeat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    New york is a filthy ****hole compared to london. I definitely wouldnt move to NYC by choice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Seaneh wrote: »
    London.
    I have friends living in NYC in well paying jobs and they either pay through the ****ing nose for rent in ****ty apartments down town or commute for about 90 minutes from Staten Island/Queens/Jersey/Upstate and either complain about the city being to expensive of their commute being too long.
    New York is a great place, but **** living their.

    London isn't fantastic in the rent department either. I pay £1100 a month for a small one bed flat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    FTA69 wrote: »
    London isn't fantastic in the rent department either. I pay £1100 a month for a small one bed flat.

    That's the higher end of the price range though, there are much cheaper options and commuting in London is a lot less hassle than in NY.

    I have 4 mates living in a really nice 4 bed 3 bathroom house outside London who commute about 30-40 minutes to work and they are paying not much more than that in total between then.

    In contrast. My cousin pays $900 for a room in a 3 bed 1 bath flat in Manhattan and still commutes for 40 minutes.

    **** that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    £1100 seems to be fairly standard to cheap for a one-bed apartment in zone 2, and about mid-range for zone 3. We're paying £920 for 2 rooms in a shared house in NW5 at the moment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭tosspot15


    I love both NYC and London.
    However, after those 2011 riots, my opinion about London has changed greatly.


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