Irish Girls & Guys Sexual Relationships

Kruse

Perhaps it's a cultural thing with us or perhaps even a strain of Catholic guilt I'm not sure but having been to a few different countries (even as near as mainland Europe) it seems other nationalities have different attitudes towards sex and relationships.

Now I know the Irish don't do dating etc and this is not what this thread is about. Instead, I'm eager to find out why us Irish may not be as loose or liberal, say, as even our closest neighbours whom we share a lot with, the Brits. I've been to the UK many times before but I just recently got back after spending time at a wedding there. Being older now I was bewildered by liberal attitudes towards sex. It seemed to us (a group of Irish women and men out on the town) that the Brits are open to having fun of the sexual variety far more regularly that our girls and guys are at home.

Is this just a simple small city mentality at play? Let's take Dublin (our largest city)....it's pretty small compared to world standards. Perhaps in the UK's big cities there is a sense of anonymity while here at home, girls may feel a need to preserve their image among peers etc (and of course that's entirely understandable) in our smaller community. I've also noticed our dress sense compared with those across the Irish Sea. The British men and women dress provocatively while we might put on something a little more conservative on a night out.

What are peoples thoughts? Have they experienced similar?

*This is not a bash thread. Hopefully the trolls will get banned. Let's try and have a mature conversation about why our sexual appetites may be lower than the Brits*

Muise...

strangely, some Irish need Dutch courage in order to lurch and fall on one another. Tiiiiiimmmmmbbber!

Sh1tbag OToole

Everywhere else you go whole families duck into the sauna naked and nobody is bothered by it. Naked people on the beach everywhere

Orgies are a school subject, virgins at the age of 15 are given a teacher to practice on by the state.

Drink is cheap and you can walk up to any girl in a pub and ask for a shag and they will usually oblige you.

People dogging everywhere, not only is it legal but its also mandatory.


All the enlightened EU countries are a massive free admission orgy. Its just us bloody prudish Irish that have it all wrong.

Jaxxy

I don't know if you've been out and about in Dublin city recently OP, but I would not call the dress sense of the youth "conservative".

Brego888

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Everywhere else you go whole families duck into the sauna naked and nobody is bothered by it. Naked people on the beach everywhere

Orgies are a school subject, virgins at the age of 15 are given a teacher to practice on by the state.

Drink is cheap and you can walk up to any girl in a pub and ask for a shag and they will usually oblige you.

People dogging everywhere, not only is it legal but its also mandatory.


All the enlightened EU countries are a massive free admission orgy. Its just us bloody prudish Irish that have it all wrong.

Where would I find these countries you speak of?

dukedalton

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Orgies are a school subject, virgins at the age of 15 are given a teacher to practice on by the state.



People dogging everywhere, not only is it legal but its also mandatory.
.

What?

conorhal

Jaxxy wrote: »

I don't know if you've been out and about in Dublin city recently OP, but I would not call the dress sense of the youth "conservative".

Indeed...

Oh and what teenager today is 'constrained by Catholic guilt'? Iv'e never met one.

elefant

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Everywhere else you go whole families duck into the sauna naked and nobody is bothered by it. Naked people on the beach everywhere

Orgies are a school subject, virgins at the age of 15 are given a teacher to practice on by the state.

Drink is cheap and you can walk up to any girl in a pub and ask for a shag and they will usually oblige you.

People dogging everywhere, not only is it legal but its also mandatory.


All the enlightened EU countries are a massive free admission orgy. Its just us bloody prudish Irish that have it all wrong.

dukedalton wrote: »

What?

It's all true. Nothing in that post has gone over your head.

Jaxxy

conorhal wrote: »

Indeed...

Oh and what teenager today is 'constrained by Catholic guilt'? Iv'e never met one.

Indeed. I don't think any of the older generations are either. Sure, sometimes a girl might catch some judgmental flack or branded a certain way because of her openness toward sex by certain people, but on the whole among my group (late twenties) everyone pretty much does what they like when it comes to sexual habits.

Do you hail from a really small parochial village, OP?

ScumLord

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

All the enlightened EU countries are a massive free admission orgy. Its just us bloody prudish Irish that have it all wrong.

I blame the Catholic church. Just look at other prudish Catholic countries like Spain, or Italy... or, no, that doesn't work, don't worry I'll come up with some way to blame the church. I just need a minute.

Flaker

I would have said anywhere in Ireland was as bad as anywhere in England for drinking, provocative dressing, casual shagging up until a few weeks ago.

I spent along weekend in Newcastle and boy were my eyes opened!! Now, I know it was only one weekend and only one particualr city, but it's my only experience in England so farso that what I'm going to talk about.

We Irish are given a reputation as drinkers, but I've never seen anything like it in Newcastle. Binge drinking wouldn't be in it. It cost next to nothing and everyone was smashed by early o'clock. No pacing yourself for the night there. And the fights and carrying on on the street from about 11 was serious. You wouldn't really see hordes of people out on the streets at that time here, well I haven't anyway.

This leads on to the issue of sex. Everyone is so smashed all inhibitions go out the window. I was honestly seriously propostioned about twiced by randomers and saw all sorts going on in the corners. It was like Sodom and Gommorrah!! I've seen things at home, but not usually all in the one weekend!

Having said that, I had a brilliant weekend. It's a nutso place and even though it took my liver/brain/whole body weeks to recover, I'd deffo go back again.:D

salacious crumb

Brego888 wrote: »

Where would I find these countries you speak of?

Finland for one :pac:

Sh1tbag OToole

Brego888 wrote: »

Where would I find these countries you speak of?

Scandanavia, Benelux countries, Germany, France, The higher the tax the easier it is to get sex.

The only virgins to ever come out of those places are ones who cut off their todger before they went in, and only if they managed to avoid the free replacement steel prosthetic knobs their state hospitals have on offer

conorhal

salacious crumb wrote: »

Finland for one :pac:

I've always foung the Finns to be posessed of a certian dour calvinist prudery. They can't even seem to enjoy getting locked.

salacious crumb

conorhal wrote: »

I've always foung the Finns to be posessed of a certian dour calvinist prudery. They can't even seem to enjoy getting locked.

Prudery? My girlfriend's grandparents couldn't understand why I wouldn't have a naked sauna with them. Not exactly prudish :pac:

As for getting locked, I've had many, many drinks with many, many Finns, and they all seemed to be enjoying themselves.

sbsquarepants

salacious crumb wrote: »

Prudery? My girlfriend's grandparents couldn't understand why I wouldn't have a naked sauna with them. Not exactly prudish :pac:

.

And why wouldn't you?

salacious crumb

sbsquarepants wrote: »

And why wouldn't you?

Because, being Irish, I wouldn't have felt comfortable

premierstone

salacious crumb wrote: »

Because, being Irish, I wouldn't have felt comfortable

Why, do Finnish blokes have much bigger co*ks or what??

salacious crumb

premierstone wrote: »

Why, do Finnish blokes have much bigger co*ks or what??

I don't know, I haven't seen any

premierstone

salacious crumb wrote: »

I don't know, I haven't seen any

Ask your GF, and her grandparents of course

anncoates

This isn't one of those inter-rail sexuality threads is it?

You know, those ones full of students pontificating about catholic guilt and Irish prudishness because they popped their cherry while spending a summer sleeping in European train stations.

keithclancy

Went to the naked part of a Spa place (Sauna/Steam Room/Jacuzzi etc)

It was grand, gorgeous looking people everywhere but for some reason the sex area of your brain turns off.

Don't know if I could go with people I know though, with strangers it was fine.

hatrickpatrick

I spent a night chatting up a Turkish girl in a Dublin club before the summer. She was absolutely astounded that I went over and introduced myself to her randomly, and completely disbelieving when, at the end of the night, I informed her that I was busy the next afternoon so hadn't been drinking at all.
Her experience of Irish guys was that they'd never make the first move and if they did, would have to have downed a pint of whiskey first.


Made me a little downcast - is this really how Irish lads are generally seen by foreigners?
I do think there's a huge amount of social dysfunction in Ireland which stems all the way back to the time of "boys on one side, girls on the other side" teen discos. I can't help wondering if one of the causes of it is that Irish schools are overwhelmingly single sex? A lot of Irish children have so little platonic experience with the opposite sex as preteens that by the time they hit puberty and are interested in them sexually, they're almost an alien species. That's obviously just a theory but I reckon it could explain it at least to some extent.

Nemeses

I don't need to know other peoples businesses..


unless its nrop.. hardcore at that.

Jelly2

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I spent a night chatting up a Turkish girl in a Dublin club before the summer. She was absolutely astounded that I went over and introduced myself to her randomly, and completely disbelieving when, at the end of the night, I informed her that I was busy the next afternoon so hadn't been drinking at all.
Her experience of Irish guys was that they'd never make the first move and if they did, would have to have downed a pint of whiskey first.


Made me a little downcast - is this really how Irish lads are generally seen by foreigners?
I do think there's a huge amount of social dysfunction in Ireland which stems all the way back to the time of "boys on one side, girls on the other side" teen discos. I can't help wondering if one of the causes of it is that Irish schools are overwhelmingly single sex? A lot of Irish children have so little platonic experience with the opposite sex as preteens that by the time they hit puberty and are interested in them sexually, they're almost an alien species. That's obviously just a theory but I reckon it could explain it at least to some extent.

Preteens? Most primary schools are mixed.

Muise...

anncoates wrote: »

This isn't one of those inter-rail sexuality threads is it?

You know, those ones full of students pontificating about catholic guilt and Irish prudishness because they popped their cherry while spending a summer sleeping in European train stations.

with asides from those who think Irish people are repressed Catholic prudes because they won't get up to all sorts of filthy stuff with them.

average hero

I think we have an odd relationship with sexuality in this country. Certain habits promote the oddness I think. The segregation at schools would be one reason. The 'slut-shaming' that both genders do is another reason. I think it will be a couple more generations yet before we loose our prudish attitudes.

With regards to how some segments of society dress when out at the weekends, their dress sense does not necessarily mean that they act in a certain manner.

pundy

this thread is ridiculous. some people are sluts, others are not. doesnt matter where they are from. i know PLENTY of outgoing slags that would hop up on anything, ripe for the ride any time. Most of them live in Rathmines actually... dunno what that says...

MOC88

salacious crumb wrote: »

Finland for one :pac:

We should organise some sort of boards trip to Finland anyone up for it?

salacious crumb

MOC88 wrote: »

We should organise some sort of boards trip to Finland anyone up for it?

No need, there's hundreds, if not thousands of them living in Dublin :pac:

conorhal

average hero wrote: »

I think we have an odd relationship with sexuality in this country. Certain habits promote the oddness I think. The segregation at schools would be one reason. The 'slut-shaming' that both genders do is another reason. I think it will be a couple more generations yet before we loose our prudish attitudes.

With regards to how some segments of society dress when out at the weekends, their dress sense does not necessarily mean that they act in a certain manner.

A quick google search tells me that there are 2,915 co-educational schools, and 364 single-sex schools in Ireland, somehow I doubt 'segregation' accounts for much. It's not the 1950's for gods sake.

lahalane

I think both nations have pretty much the same views on sex but the Irish make harder work out of it. They need more convincing or have to think it through first while the English dive straight in.

Obviously the 'small community' thing doesn't help either. If someone says they're from Sligo then they'll be asked 'Oh do you know such and such a person?'.

I say this with absolutely no evidence to back it up at all, it's only what I think is going on as a guy who grew up in the country and now live in an average sized town.

sbsquarepants

salacious crumb wrote: »

Because, being Irish, I wouldn't have felt comfortable

Wouldn't bother me. One of lifes odd little experiences is how i'd view it. It's not often you get nekid with a girfriends grandparents after all.
Thankfully, my girlfriends grandparents are dead - so i suppose her sister will have to do!:D

salacious crumb

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Wouldn't bother me. One of lifes odd little experiences is how i'd view it. It's not often you get nekid with a girfriends grandparents after all.
Thankfully, my girlfriends grandparents are dead - so i suppose her sister will have to do!:D

Oddly enough, by the end of my second holiday there I did end up having a naked sauna with my gf and her sister and brother :pac:

KingOfFairview

Flaker wrote: »

I would have said anywhere in Ireland was as bad as anywhere in England for drinking, provocative dressing, casual shagging up until a few weeks ago.

I spent along weekend in Newcastle and boy were my eyes opened!! Now, I know it was only one weekend and only one particualr city, but it's my only experience in England so farso that what I'm going to talk about.

We Irish are given a reputation as drinkers, but I've never seen anything like it in Newcastle. Binge drinking wouldn't be in it. It cost next to nothing and everyone was smashed by early o'clock. No pacing yourself for the night there. And the fights and carrying on on the street from about 11 was serious. You wouldn't really see hordes of people out on the streets at that time here, well I haven't anyway.

This leads on to the issue of sex. Everyone is so smashed all inhibitions go out the window. I was honestly seriously propostioned about twiced by randomers and saw all sorts going on in the corners. It was like Sodom and Gommorrah!! I've seen things at home, but not usually all in the one weekend!

Having said that, I had a brilliant weekend. It's a nutso place and even though it took my liver/brain/whole body weeks to recover, I'd deffo go back again.:D

See anyone bein bummed?

Jonny Blaze

Kruse wrote: »

It seemed to us (a group of Irish women and men out on the town) that the Brits are open to having fun of the sexual variety far more regularly that our girls and guys are at home.

It's just the girls..

ted1

salacious crumb wrote: »

Oddly enough, by the end of my second holiday there I did end up having a naked sauna with my gf and her sister and brother :pac:

that contradicts your early statment







Originally Posted by premierstone

Why, do Finnish blokes have much bigger co*ks or what??

salacious crumb wrote: »

I don't know, I haven't seen any

Wibbs

In my experience in various bits of Europe, the Irish are anything but prudish. They may have been when I was a nipper(no may about it), but not in the last decade or so. Indeed I've found our rep overseas considers us more "easy" than the Latins for example. The English would be ahead of us in that stereotype. For general openness, discussion of sex and picking up for a Legover(tm) Ireland is a lot easier going than much of Europe. Germany isn't far off us IME.

salacious crumb

ted1 wrote: »

that contradicts your early statment

Well spotted. Both statements were true though, I just didn't look at my gf's brother's penis.

average hero

conorhal wrote: »

A quick google search tells me that there are 2,915 co-educational schools, and 364 single-sex schools in Ireland, somehow I doubt 'segregation' accounts for much. It's not the 1950's for gods sake.

Okay maybe that doesn't account for too much in and of itself, but the culture surrounding all of that sort of segregation that happened more so in the past as well as a lot of cultural issues too contribute in my opinion.

I'd say being a small country, with relatively small parishes and communities also has a lot to do with it.

DenMan

Wibbs wrote: »

In my experience in various bits of Europe, the Irish are anything but prudish. They may have been when I was a nipper(no may about it), but not in the last decade or so. Indeed I've found our rep overseas considers us more "easy" than the Latins for example. The English would be ahead of us in that stereotype. For general openness, discussion of sex and picking up for a Legover(tm) Ireland is a lot easier going than much of Europe. Germany isn't far off us IME.

Are you speaking from personal experience Wibbs or observing others (if you're Irish that is)?

From a personal point of view (an Irish man) I've always felt more Irish when not living in Ireland (England and Malta). I've always felt more free and much more confident. It's easier to talk to people (mostly women) in other countries as you're different to them and a lot of people love a change in routine in their lives and different is interesting. I won't lie as my sex life went through the roof when I left Ireland initially. Irish people as a general rule always have this fascination with home when they are abroad. We always talk about it to foreigners as if we think they want to hear about it. I spoke about Ireland not very much and was more interested in their culture. Sex is as natural as going to work (especially in the Med) and they are very comfortable with their sex lives. Ireland as a nation is still very much hung up on it. It's a bad insecurity to have. I'm moving to the South of Italy this time next year so it will be another interesting adventure that's for sure!

Flaker

KingOfFairview wrote: »

See anyone bein bummed?

No thank jaysus. That would have scarred me for life. That being said it was nothern gay pride that week so I'm not sure how I avoided seeing it to be honest!

Wibbs

DenMan wrote: »

Are you speaking from personal experience Wibbs or observing others (if you're Irish that is)?

Both and yep Irish.

From a personal point of view (an Irish man) I've always felt more Irish when not living in Ireland (England and Malta). I've always felt more free and much more confident. It's easier to talk to people (mostly women) in other countries as you're different to them and a lot of people love a change in routine in their lives and different is interesting. I won't lie as my sex life went through the roof when I left Ireland initially.

Because of confidence. Yes the novelty factor you'd bring to proceedings defo helps, but the confidence is the guts of it IMHO. I'd talk to the wall no matter where I am, so that factor was largely missing and TBH I found success or not generally depended on the individual encounter more than the location. Still IMHO casual hookups are generally easier/more common here. Of course it depends on the cultures within cultures too(EG Southern Italy would be slightly different to Northern Italy)

Irish people as a general rule always have this fascination with home when they are abroad. We always talk about it to foreigners as if we think they want to hear about it.

God I don't. Nothing agin the place, but I can't understand those who go to foreign climes and seek out the local Irish bar to watch a GAA match etc.

Elmer Blooker

Kruse wrote: »

Perhaps it's a cultural thing with us or perhaps even a strain of Catholic guilt I'm not sure but having been to a few different countries (even as near as mainland Europe) it seems other nationalities have different attitudes towards sex and relationships.

Now I know the Irish don't do dating etc and this is not what this thread is about. Instead, I'm eager to find out why us Irish may not be as loose or liberal, say, as even our closest neighbours whom we share a lot with, the Brits. I've been to the UK many times before but I just recently got back after spending time at a wedding there. Being older now I was bewildered by liberal attitudes towards sex. It seemed to us (a group of Irish women and men out on the town) that the Brits are open to having fun of the sexual variety far more regularly that our girls and guys are at home.

Is this just a simple small city mentality at play? Let's take Dublin (our largest city)....it's pretty small compared to world standards. Perhaps in the UK's big cities there is a sense of anonymity while here at home, girls may feel a need to preserve their image among peers etc (and of course that's entirely understandable) in our smaller community. I've also noticed our dress sense compared with those across the Irish Sea. The British men and women dress provocatively while we might put on something a little more conservative on a night out.

What are peoples thoughts? Have they experienced similar?

*This is not a bash thread. Hopefully the trolls will get banned. Let's try and have a mature conversation about why our sexual appetites may be lower than the Brits*

Having to get paralytic drunk to do the business is "hardly a liberal attitude to sex" is it? I think it suggests the opposite.

ScumLord

Once the Irish get overseas they start breeding like mad. There's what? 40 million people of Irish descent in America apparently. That doesn't happen by accident. Everyone else seems to think we're sexy, but we don't, it's like "stony grey soil" in reverse.

Legs.Eleven

You're twenty million times more likely to get ONS anywhere in Ireland on a night out than anywhere in Spain (away from the coastal resorts). That goes for both genders. I'm speaking from experience here.

The Irish are prudish me hole. That's a total myth. Having Saunas with family members in Finland means you're probably more comfortable with your nakedness and being naked with family but it has **** all to do with sex...or at least it shouldn't (you don't fcuk your family, like...or do you? ).

And Irish people dress conservatively? I've had to tone down how much boobage I show since moving here because I stuck out like a sore thumb.

KingOfFairview

ScumLord wrote: »

Once the Irish get overseas they start breeding like mad. There's what? 40 million people of Irish descent in America apparently. That doesn't happen by accident. Everyone else seems to think we're sexy, but we don't, it's like "stony grey soil" in reverse.

80,000,000 around the world

pajor

pundy wrote: »

this thread is ridiculous. some people are sluts, others are not. doesnt matter where they are from. i know PLENTY of outgoing slags that would hop up on anything, ripe for the ride any time. Most of them live in Rathmines actually... dunno what that says...

It says they're college freshers. :rolleyes:

The Brits had the pill in the 1960s, I'm sure that has something to contribute to the stereotype.

Concerning 'Catholic guilt'.. gotta be Catholic first. :pac:

suicide_circus

easier to get laid in Dublin than any other European city i've been in. except Newcastle, gordie lasses are loose as ****.

The_Valeyard

You cant do anything in this country without family/friends/neighbours/locals finding out what you are up to. So one reason, possibly, why we are a tad more 'reserved'. Everyone knows you somehow, somewhere down the line.

MadsL

conorhal wrote: »

I've always foung the Finns to be posessed of a certian dour calvinist prudery. They can't even seem to enjoy getting locked.

Try the Danes instead, I dare you to keep up.

salacious crumb wrote: »

Because, being Irish, I wouldn't have felt comfortable

Could I, politely, suggest the problem lies within, not with your heritage.