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Ask permission before posting to Social Media?

  • 29-08-2013 4:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    Is this too much to ask? Without dwelling on any particular recent incidents and mindful of EP this weekend; why is it that people think they can post pictures of you to social media without your permission?

    Could I make a plea that if your are at a party, gig, event, rave or festival and you see someone in an awesome outfit, or getting into a 'scrape', PLEASE ask their permission before posting to social media. Some people have professional lives outside of partying, and you may cause them great difficulty by posting without permission.

    I remember a time when you used to ask people before taking a photo, now it seems that anyone is fair game if out in public.

    Is it too much to ask to be thoughtful and just ASK?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,080 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Unfortunately some people seem to think that because they document every second of their life, everyone else on the planet does the same thing too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    HA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    God bless you and good luck with your cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,125 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    or getting into a 'scrape', PLEASE ask their permission before posting to social media

    Yeah, good luck with that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    People will get out their cameras and film people's last breaths after horrible accidents and plaster it all over the web - your request for privacy, although legitimate, expects too much from the average twat-with-a-camera.

    Privacy in public is dead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    If you have a problem just untag yourself or don't consciously partake in photos, or don't do silly things where there are cameras snapping.

    It has always been the case that people inadvertently entered pictures in public places. If you follow the above guidelines, nothing will change and your reputation will survive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    MadsL wrote: »
    Is this too much to ask? Without dwelling on any particular recent incidents and mindful of EP this weekend; why is it that people think they can post pictures of you to social media without your permission?

    Could I make a plea that if your are at a party, gig, event, rave or festival and you see someone in an awesome outfit, or getting into a 'scrape', PLEASE ask their permission before posting to social media. Some people have professional lives outside of partying, and you may cause them great difficulty by posting without permission.

    I remember a time when you used to ask people before taking a photo, now it seems that anyone is fair game if out in public.

    Is it too much to ask to be thoughtful and just ASK?

    this will only get worse..... its unstoppable at this point. Just dont do anything you're not supposed to be doing and you'll be fine. That slane girl found out the hard way.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The paparazzi will have you killed under a bridge for trying to instil that idea on people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    kneemos wrote: »
    God bless you and good luck with your cause.

    There are some places that have sucessful managed to revolt against this trend. Native American pueblos/reservations (very frowned upon to photograph without permission) and Burning Man; again bad form not to ask permission before taking a pic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    Hate that.:(
    Out of curiosity, how embarrassing was it? On a scale of one to jail?;)

    Or have you not done it yet?:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Just dont do anything you're not supposed to be doing and you'll be fine.

    There will be plenty of teachers at the Electric Picnic raving their little socks off in their finest Sparklepony neon.

    That doesn't mean pics of them should be appearing without their permission on FB or elsewhere.

    Nothing illegal or immoral in what they are doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    MadsL wrote: »
    Native American pueblos/reservations (very frowned upon to photograph without permission) .

    They think taking a photo steals your soul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    Gotta love these hippie wannabe photographers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    If you have a problem just untag yourself or don't consciously partake in photos, or don't do silly things where there are cameras snapping.

    It has always been the case that people inadvertently entered pictures in public places. If you follow the above guidelines, nothing will change and your reputation will survive.


    Yeah, doesn't always work like that. I had a pic that was taken at a festival last year tagged on facebook, nothing scandalous; except by the time I untagged it my sister-in-law had her nose in it. I don't really want her in my business nor to I want to explain why I have unfriended her.

    Time to leave FB perhaps?

    Maybe the age of common courtesy is over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    MadsL wrote: »
    There will be plenty of teachers at the Electric Picnic raving their little socks off in their finest Sparklepony neon.

    That doesn't mean pics of them should be appearing without their permission on FB or elsewhere.

    Nothing illegal or immoral in what they are doing.

    The pics may or may not surface and if they do, it shouldnt be a big deal IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    MadsL wrote: »
    now it seems that anyone is fair game if out in public.

    Thats because they are.
    MadsL wrote: »
    Time to leave FB perhaps?
    Yes :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    They think taking a photo steals your soul
    No, they usually charge, it's lost income.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    MadsL wrote: »
    Yeah, doesn't always work like that. I had a pic that was taken at a festival last year tagged on facebook, nothing scandalous; except by the time I untagged it my sister-in-law had her nose in it. I don't really want her in my business nor to I want to explain why I have unfriended her.

    Time to leave FB perhaps?

    Maybe the age of common courtesy is over?

    If your not happy, just leave facebook and social media and refrain from doing illegal things and you'll be fine.

    I personally think its a non issue if a pic goes up of me on FB with out my permission.

    Unless it makes me look fat that is, then ill cry myself to sleep :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    They think taking a photo steals your soul

    Nonsense. Native Americans get their photos taken with their permission all the time. The reason for the photo ban is capturing ceremonies or dances which are sacred.

    You wouldn't pop into the local church and photograph the priest consecrating mass without permission. Same thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    It's a world where the paparazzi are lying on the pavement to take pictures of female celebrities getting out of cars so I think we can say common deceny is too long dead to be revived.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    MadsL wrote: »
    Nonsense. Native Americans get their photos taken with their permission all the time. The reason for the photo ban is capturing ceremonies or dances which are sacred.

    You wouldn't pop into the local church and photograph the priest consecrating mass without permission. Same thing.

    yes, ive done it at weddings and christenings and the odd alter boy ceremony looking to catch the priest with his pants down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    lahalane wrote: »
    It's a world where the paparazzi are lying on the pavement to take pictures of female celebrities getting out of cars so I think we can say common deceny is too long dead to be revived.

    How did we get here so fast?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Shout Dust


    You can change a setting on facebook, where you have to authorise each tag anytime someone tags you. Won't stop the picture going up but will stop it appearing on your page without you allowing it first


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    As this thread shows, a man list his embassy job over a youtube video

    Granted, he's an ass but he had no idea he was secretly filmed

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057027299


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    MadsL wrote: »
    How did we get here so fast?

    Well we were never a really decent species at any point in history really were we? I admit it looked like we were heading in the right direction at one stage but I'm not so sure anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    MadsL wrote: »
    There will be plenty of teachers at the Electric Picnic raving their little socks off in their finest Sparklepony neon.

    That doesn't mean pics of them should be appearing without their permission on FB or elsewhere.

    Nothing illegal or immoral in what they are doing.

    No one can be under any illusion, by attending EP there is a very good chance of being photographed or filmed by someone. Don't like it? Don't go.

    It's also worth remembering that video or photos of the teachers raving in their sparklepony neon (whatever that is) could end up in next years advertising campaign.
    You give Your express consent to Your actual or simulated likeness to be included for no fee within any film, photograph, audio and/or audiovisual recording to be exploited in any and all media for any purpose at any time throughout the world. This includes filming by the police or security staff which may be carried out for the security of customers or the prevention of crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Shout Dust wrote: »
    You can change a setting on facebook, where you have to authorise each tag anytime someone tags you. Won't stop the picture going up but will stop it appearing on your page without you allowing it first

    Yeah I have done that. I'm just trying to get some kind of lightbulb to go on it people's heads before they upload to the web or even take the photo in the first place.

    We have more or less got the message out that texting/talking in the cinema is rude and inconsiderate, maybe we could get the message out that taking a photograph without consent is also rude and inconsiderate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Rascasse wrote: »
    No one can be under any illusion, by attending EP there is a very good chance of being photographed or filmed by someone. Don't like it? Don't go.

    It's also worth remembering that video or photos of the teachers raving in their sparklepony neon (whatever that is) could end up in next years advertising campaign.


    I couldn't say it better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Rascasse wrote: »
    No one can be under any illusion, by attending EP there is a very good chance of being photographed or filmed by someone. Don't like it? Don't go.

    It's also worth remembering that video or photos of the teachers raving in their sparklepony neon (whatever that is) could end up in next years advertising campaign.

    Yeah, fair point. I hate those blanket "we can do anything we like with your image" T&Cs.

    I think the organisers probably however have more judgement than most cameraphone snappers as to what is appropriate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    MadsL wrote: »
    Is this too much to ask? Without dwelling on any particular recent incidents and mindful of EP this weekend; why is it that people think they can post pictures of you to social media without your permission?

    Could I make a plea that if your are at a party, gig, event, rave or festival and you see someone in an awesome outfit, or getting into a 'scrape', PLEASE ask their permission before posting to social media. Some people have professional lives outside of partying, and you may cause them great difficulty by posting without permission.

    I remember a time when you used to ask people before taking a photo, now it seems that anyone is fair game if out in public.

    Is it too much to ask to be thoughtful and just ASK?

    try not doing something so wrong it can get you in trouble with your job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    PucaMama wrote: »
    try not doing something so wrong it can get you in trouble with your job?

    A lot depends on how conservative your boss is...wouldn't you say?

    The definition of wrong being on their side not yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    PucaMama wrote: »
    try not doing something so wrong it can get you in trouble with your job?

    Yes, arms down by the sides your whole life!

    The scope of what could look bad in your job/company if it was on social media is too large. I think people give enough to their employers without having to be model employees while not working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    MadsL wrote: »
    A lot depends on how conservative your boss is...wouldn't you say?

    The definition of wrong being on their side not yours.

    but if they try to punish you wrongly can you not go above them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Yes, arms down by the sides your whole life!

    The scope of what could look bad in your job/company if it was on social media is too large. I think people give enough to their employers without having to be model employees while not working.

    id keep my profile private so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    PucaMama wrote: »
    but if they try to punish you wrongly can you not go above them

    If you work for a strict Catholic entrepreneur? A born-again Christian business owner? A private school?

    Get the idea...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    PucaMama wrote: »
    id keep my profile private so

    Other people profiles are not private is the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    How about not adding/following your boss/company on social media?

    Though that'd ruin the lulz for everyone else: http://happyplace.someecards.com/19469/10-idiots-who-got-caught-by-their-boss-on-facebook

    And while you're in a late-night cold sweat about how everyone saw that picture where you looked like a fool, remember that everyone only cared for a nanosecond; you're the one obsessing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    MadsL wrote: »
    If you work for a strict Catholic entrepreneur? A born-again Christian business owner? A private school?

    Get the idea...

    How about an undertaker?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Muise... wrote: »
    How about not adding/following your boss/company on social media?

    That isn't always the case - photos that are on the web can be seen by anyone.

    Although when I was asked to 'Like' the new FB page of a company I worked for by the Marketing Manager my reaction was, would you ever get to f*ck.

    I got enough sh#t from management about the environmental charity I volunteered with in my own time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    MadsL wrote: »
    That isn't always the case - photos that are on the web can be seen by anyone.

    I get that, so it's probably best to be as careful with RL friends as online ones, and only let the hair down in a secluded spot, among people who won't share what happened in Vegas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Muise... wrote: »
    I get that, so it's probably best to be as careful with RL friends as online ones, and only let the hair down in a secluded spot, among people who won't share what happened in Vegas.

    Yeah, ever notice that dichotomy?

    What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. What happens on tour, stays on tour. etc.

    So we can do that, but not keep photos to ourselves. :confused:


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP I thought I was the only person who thought that.

    I remember being out with friends a while back and they were taking photos and I warned them not to put it on facebook and they just couldn't believe that I would even suggest it. My friends Girlfriend and her friends thought I was a weirdo.

    I am on Facebook but my life isn't on it because I don't feel the need for constant attention or that I'm better than everyone else because I do this or that. So I don't want pics of me on the internet that I don't want.

    People need to respect others and their right to privacy.

    The media should also respect it, they don't and they have far too much power.

    I know some people don't see the big deal, but this is the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    If you wanna find out if there are pictures of you floating on the net..

    Just google yer name in Images..

    you'd be surprised on what's picked up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,510 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    If you behave yourself and show a bit of self respect for yourself you should have no problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Nemeses wrote: »
    If you wanna find out if there are pictures of you floating on the net..

    Just google yer name in Images..

    you'd be surprised on what's picked up.

    Holy ****...I thought that having the same name as somebody relatively famous would filter it out but no...couldn't have picked a worse picture either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    OP I thought I was the only person who thought that.

    I remember being out with friends a while back and they were taking photos and I warned them not to put it on facebook and they just couldn't believe that I would even suggest it. My friends Girlfriend and her friends thought I was a weirdo.

    Exactly;

    I had the following experience at a festival in Arkansas this year.

    Randomer: Can I take you picture (kudos to him for asking)
    Me: Sure, thanks for asking first...just keep it for personal use, OK?
    Randomer: You mean my facebook?
    Me: No, I mean your personal use, not uploaded to the web, OK?
    Randomer: But I'm a photographer...
    Me: Great, do you have business card?
    Randomer: No...

    Takes pic with flash on. (Pro photographer huh?) It's nearly 1am and I have now lost my nightvision for the next 15mins, not to mention how painful a flash that close is, and there is plenty of ambient light from the megawatts of stage lighting above us.

    Apologises as myself and my friend rub our eyes and blink.

    Takes one more without flash, doesn't show them to us and wanders off....


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you behave yourself and show a bit of self respect for yourself you should have no problem.

    A persons right to privacy should be respected. regardless of what they're doing.

    It isn't for you or I to decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    If you behave yourself and show a bit of self respect for yourself you should have no problem.

    I should have to 'behave myself' when doing nothing illegal? Interesting. Whose moral code decides that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    People will get out their cameras and film people's last breaths after horrible accidents and plaster it all over the web - your request for privacy, although legitimate, expects too much from the average twat-with-a-camera.

    Privacy in public is dead.

    There was a notable case of this in recent Cork accident, it's one thing recording & posting someone having a slip and fall, but a serious life-threatening / fatal accident? FFS..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,510 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    A persons right to privacy should be respected. regardless of what they're doing.

    It isn't for you or I to decide.
    MadsL wrote: »
    I should have to 'behave myself' when doing nothing illegal? Interesting. Whose moral code decides that?

    My personal views are that once your not in the privacy of your own home you don't have any privacy. So, you should remember that before you do anything you might regret.


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