Nexus 5

5starpool

Pure speculation thread at this point, but since I intend the N5 to be my next phone if possible it's a topic I have a vested interest in.

Possible leaked photo of the back here, but taken with the usual pinch of salt of course. I'm hoping that if this is a genuine picture that white won't be the only colour as I much prefer darker coloured phones.



This article says it will be a slightly less powerful version of the current LG flagship essentially, but we haven't had official confirmation from LG that they are manufacturing it even. I guess if the low price point is to be maintained, then some compromises have to be made, although I am disappointed that the N5 wouldn't be a market leader type phone, even for a few months. It would still be a significant upgrade from my current Galaxy Nexus though which is starting to slow down more and more now it seems.

A device which could be the Google Nexus 5 has leaked onto the web.

The device, which is seen lying face down on a table, bears LG branding but no other markings to speak of. It’s coloured white, has a metallic surround and what appears to be a smooth, glossy texture. The camera is at the top of the back panel centrally positioned in not too dissimilar a fashion to the LG G2 flagship but crucially it lacks the controls seen on LG’s own device and instead has a power and volume rocker along the left-hand side (if you were looking at the display).

The image, which cropped up on Techtastic, came from an anonymous LG tester, who also described the device as the ‘Nxs5’. Previous reports have strongly suggested LG will be behind the Nexus 5 after its success with the Nexus 4, but LG has gone on record saying that although it enjoyed being involved in the Nexus 4 project it has no plans to repeat the partnership. Of course, saying it doesn’t make it so, just the same as when HTC said it wasn’t making a Nexus Edition HTC One, what it actually meant was ‘yes’.

Such reports have also implied the Nexus 5 will be a tweaked and re-branded LG G2 with the rear buttons removed and it looks as though that’s exactly what we’ve got here.

Techtastic speculates that the Nexus 5 may trade in the LG G2’s Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 quad-core chip for a cheaper and less power-hungry Snapdragon 600. Meanwhile the 13-megapixel camera with optical image stabilisation (OIS) may get the boot in favour of a 10-megapixel setup, perhaps similar to what we’ve seen on the Motorola Moto X. A Clear Pixel camera perhaps? There’s no word on whether the OIS would stay though. Apparently the idea is to try and keep the Nexus 5’s cost down to somewhere in the region of the Nexus 4’s affordable tag, though we’d expect it’d cost a wee bit more on the display alone.

It’s also been put forward that the Nexus 5 will be the debut handset for Google’s Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie build which is thought to be arriving in October.

Anyone else been holding out for this iteration of the Nexus line?

godtabh

LG arent making the next nexus phone

IrishStuff09

If that's what the Nexus 5 will look like, I'll pass. Hate plastic covers..

5starpool

godtabh wrote: »

LG arent making the next nexus phone

Who is then? Despite any denials I've seen things I've read still point to them being the most likely. There has been nothing to suggest so far that it would be Motorola as far as I've seen.

godtabh

godtabh wrote: »

LG arent making the next nexus phone

All rumours are pointing to LG again. I think you might be confused with Samsung not making the next Nexus 10.

neacy69

i was holding out for the nexus 5 but caved and got the HTC one the weekend. Very happy with it as its a cracking phone and the screen is very decent upgrade. I was previously happy with my galaxy nexus but the uprgade was burning a hole in my pocket...

Dudda

Very interested in this too. How much of the Modo X and it's always on/ready features do people think will make it's way into the next Nexus as they are both essentially a Google Phone.

godtabh

http://www.digitalspy.ie/tech/news/a485047/lg-wont-make-google-nexus-5.html

That article is form May though, any article form July/August will tell you it seems to be LG.

Mimikyu

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gzoladz

If it is lte capable and lte is implemented in Ireland I will consider it.

Justin10

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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That is a Jiayu G4. HTC One Copied the Jiayu G3.
Nexus 4 much better looking phone.

emo72

oh dear, so stop holding on and just grab a nexus 4 instead? im due a phone and my missus has the nexus 4 and it seems a great phone. the leaks seem to be all about keeping the price down.

jester77

I like the current N4, only complaint is that is a tad too big. That back cover looks absolutely horrendous, really hope that is not it. Looks cheap and tacky like the Samsung Galaxy phones.

Justin10

Different image has appeared in a Google Promo video.
Picture is from MKBHD twitter account.

Kylo Ren

http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691652/did-google-just-leak-the-nexus-5-kitkat-video#ooid=t3cTA2ZTpvla4rxmUG9_MGJb1EmWtI5H

EGriff

That looks fecking humongous. The N4 is big enough, even a little bit too big.

EGriff

EGriff wrote: »

That looks fecking humongous. The N4 is big enough, even a little bit too big.

I don't think we can assume that this is the finished article, or that it will even have that same matte finish (what if it's metal with a powdered black paint finish?). These days however it seems that flagship phones from Samsung, HTC and Sony are all pretty huge having displays that are anywhere between 4.7" and almost 6".

While I agree that a phone screen doesn't need to be more than 5" I believe this will be 5.2" at most considering the specifications of the Lg G2. If this is the case I'll probably be buying, even though I just picked up a N4 on the cheap here in Canada. Anyway, I won't be making too many damning judgements just yet.

jester77

EGriff wrote: »

That looks fecking humongous. The N4 is big enough, even a little bit too big.

I agree, the N4 is already too big and a struggle to use with one hand at times. When you compare the size of the phone he's holding to the woman with the N4 beside him, then it looks a lot bigger. Hopefully it's just a case of him being closer to the camera that makes it look bigger. Any bigger than the N4 would be stupid.

Jet Black

Not seeing a speaker on the back there. That's good news. Don't really mind a bit bigger myself.

5starpool

A 5" screen would be fine I'd imagine. It's one I am looking to try and get my hands on anyhow for sure, unless it is ridiculously underpowered or way too big.

Amirani

A 5.2" screen would hurt the popularity of the Nexus 7 somewhat I assume?

Dudda

NiallSparky wrote: »

A 5.2" screen would hurt the popularity of the Nexus 7 somewhat I assume?

Hard to say as we don’t know the specs but I think it could. I’m a first gen Nexus 7 owner and can imagine a 5 inch Nexus phone gaining more of my casual browsing time. I’m interested in it as I’d like to combine my 4 inch phone and Nexus 7. I’m 6’2’ so not worried about the phone being too big for me, however I know it would look huge in the small hands of my girlfriend.

Mimikyu

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Riesen_Meal

Captain Morgan wrote: »

Interestingly didn't a poster a couple of weeks ago say he was out with some Googler(s) and he/they had a Nexus 5 and it had a matte black back and was bigger?

He did alright, and I believe him - my mate (ex-googler) had the Galaxy Nexus S and Xoom tablet about 3 or 4 months before they were released so it's extremely plausible...

Mimikyu

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Riesen_Meal

Captain Morgan wrote: »

To be completely honest, at the time I was very sceptical. I would have thought they'd have to keep them under wraps and wouldn't be allowed to show them to people.

Seeing as they've announced 4.4 and this image "leaked" do people think we'll be waiting until mid-November for a release like the Nexus 4 or could it come sooner?

They aren't "supposed" to show off anything NDA wise - but of course being a pair of nerds and he is one of my closest mates I got a look and a play of it - he didn't even work in the Android division or anything but for his role he could request what he wanted off them tech wise and he got it "for testing"... :-)

I'd say it could be in November, but Google are a strange bunch, it could be out next week either for all we know!

:-)

Sonics2k

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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He did indeed, and a few friends of mine in Google have had a shot at it too. But I thought they said it was a 5" device.

I'm not surprised it's by LG, Google like to move from manufacturer now and then.

LG is an obvious move, they have a similar design style to Samsung, but are less cocky and powerful in the market, so it works very well for both parties.

LG get's extra advertising from Google, and Google get's a bit more influence than they would have had with Samsung or Asus.

god's toy

Kinda square like a Sony. But looks like the LG logo on the back.
Would not mind it being that big if it had forward fireing speakers..

Sonics2k

god's toy wrote: »

Kinda square like a Sony. But looks like the LG logo on the back.
Would not mind it being that big if it had forward fireing speakers..

If it's LG then they'll probably round off the corners a bit to suit their own style.

5starpool

Sonics2k wrote: »

He did indeed, and a few friends of mine in Google have had a shot at it too. But I thought they said it was a 5" device.

I'm not surprised it's by LG, Google like to move from manufacturer now and then.

LG is an obvious move, they have a similar design style to Samsung, but are less cocky and powerful in the market, so it works very well for both parties.

LG get's extra advertising from Google, and Google get's a bit more influence than they would have had with Samsung or Asus.

LG made the last Nexus phone, the N4. It's not a move at all.

Sonics2k

5starpool wrote: »

LG made the last Nexus phone, the N4. It's not a move at all.

I admit I had a complete brainfart and thought it was Asus when I wrote the post, and only realized when I came back to this thread to correct myself, to see you already had! I confused the Nexus 7 and 4.

DAMN YOU STARPOOL!

ZeitgeistGlee

Great looking phone, been weighing up between this and a Xiaomi Mi3, even though it's unlikely I really hope they include expandable storage or at least offer a 32GB model for those of us outside 3G areas/low data contracts.

emo72

Sonics2k wrote: »

I admit I had a complete brainfart and thought it was Asus when I wrote the post, and only realized when I came back to this thread to correct myself, to see you already had! I confused the Nexus 7 and 4.

DAMN YOU STARPOOL!

well in fairness to you, with samsung making the 10, LG making the 4 and asus making the 7.....you get where im going with this dont you?

BetterCallSaul

I know it's anyone's guess, but how much do people think this will cost at launch?

After losing my N4 last weekend, I'm torn between ordering another N4 when it's so cheap or waiting for the N5.

AlmightyCushion

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

I know it's anyone's guess, but how much do people think this will cost at launch?

After losing my N4 last weekend, I'm torn between ordering another N4 when it's so cheap or waiting for the N5.

A good guess would be the same price as the old one used to be before the price cut. It's possible it could get a price increase like the new Nexus 7 did though.

Alpha Dog 1

Not sure the new nexus 7 did get a price increase, I bought the original new for 240 from hmv and got the new one for 220 euro from game.
Maybe individual retailers have increased the price but Google have kept the price relatively similar.

Amirani

Alpha Dog 1 wrote: »

Not sure the new nexus 7 did get a price increase, I bought the original new for 240 from hmv and got the new one for 220 euro from game.
Maybe individual retailers have increased the price but Google have kept the price relatively similar.

Google definitely increased the price on the Nexus 7. It was only $20/$30 if I remember correctly. Your experience was purely down to retail pricing.

Mimikyu

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Uriel.

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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The more I read about the N5, (although any info available at the moment is speculation) the less likely I feel I am to get it. I have the Galaxy Nexus and skipped the N4 as I just felt it wasn't enough of an upgrade for me. I am not sure the N5 will be either. I'll wait and see though. Also, the fact that flubit only allow Amazon links and the problems getting devices direct from Play in Ireland make it even less attractive.

I am buying off contract, so unless something great is revealed, I may end up waiting until the Spring for a look at the S5 which would be my first non-nexus android...

EGriff

Captain Morgan wrote: »

Nexus 5 passes through FCC?

Link

Must be if its running 4.4. A larger screen bit smaller over all compared to the N4. Nice.

"Other new information includes a screen size of 126mm or 4.96-inches diagonal, and a full case size of 131.9mm high and 68.2mm wide (for reference, the Nexus 4 is 133.9mm x 68.7mm)"

Dudda

"This LG-D820 device, whatever it may be, supports a serious number of radio bands as well. We're looking at pentaband HSPA+ 42mbps on 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100MHz, 7-band LTE on Band 2, 4, 5, 17, 25, 26 and 41 and most interestingly EVDO revA (CDMA) on 800 and 1900MHz."

What does this mean for Ireland with regards to our new LTE networks? Are any not supported?
Looking forward to seeing this and it could be my next phone.

Sonics2k

Uriel. wrote: »

I am buying off contract, so unless something great is revealed, I may end up waiting until the Spring for a look at the S5 which would be my first non-nexus android...

Slightly upgrade CPU. Slightly upgraded camera. Slightly upgraded OS.

Revolutionary and Innovative.

Uriel.

Sonics2k wrote: »

Slightly upgrade CPU. Slightly upgraded camera. Slightly upgraded OS.

Revolutionary and Innovative.

It's impossible to tell at the moment, but the sales drop and backlash in relation to the "bland" S4, may see Samsung needing something particularly innovative in the S5 to restore faith in its flagship device.

Time will tell though.

Sonics2k

Uriel. wrote: »

It's impossible to tell at the moment, but the sales drop and backlash in relation to the "bland" S4, may see Samsung needing something particularly innovative in the S5 to restore faith in its flagship device.

Time will tell though.

I'm inclined to agree. I absolutely loved the S3 and treasured it the year I had it, but when it came time to upgrade I went with the HTC One instead. Whilst the S4 is a good phone, it wasn't a massive or decent change from the S3.

Similar to Apple and the 4S and 5 really.

jester77

I really hope they don't make it any bigger than the N4, which is already a bit too big. All the flagship devices on the market are now too big, don't want to have to go back to an iphone as I prefer android.

Dudda

jester77 wrote: »

I really hope they don't make it any bigger than the N4, which is already a bit too big. All the flagship devices on the market are now too big, don't want to have to go back to an iphone as I prefer android.

I'm afraid I'd disagree with this as I'd prefer a larger phone and that's the way the trend and sales are going. The one good thing is though you'll find an Android phone size to suit your needs, budget and taste unlike the iPhone where it's far more limited in choice and size.

jester77

Dudda wrote: »

I'm afraid I'd disagree with this as I'd prefer a larger phone and that's the way the trend and sales are going. The one good thing is though you'll find an Android phone size to suit your needs, budget and taste unlike the iPhone where it's far more limited in choice and size.

The N4 is just about useable with one hand and at times it's a struggle and I don't even have small hands. When I'm carrying the kid in the left arm and want to answer a text it's a struggle. The android back button is next to useless, never know where it will send you back to, so have to use the apps back button which is the furthest point from my thumb and more often than not the muscle in my thumb will hit something else before my thumb stretches to the back button.

As for choice, there are not that many options out there when it comes to top of the range android devices. Sense UI is rubbish imo, and Samsungs touch wiz look like it was developed in a kindergarten and is even worse. As someone who doesn't want to root, that leaves me with nexus and and the vanilla android versions of the HTC One and Samsung S4, both of which are too big.

At least the iphone will be useable with one hand, but I would prefer to stay with android, but that is looking like it may not be an option.

Ivefoundgod

Dudda wrote: »

The one good thing is though you'll find an Android phone size to suit your needs, budget and taste unlike the iPhone where it's far more limited in choice and size.

Not really true though, the majority of high end Android devices are 4.8-5in size. Yeah you can find smaller models like the S4 Mini/HTC One Mini but they do not have the same specs as the higher end models and having played around with an S3 mini when it came out, was terribly sluggish in comparison to the S3. Its a major issue with android, there isn't a single manufacturer making a 4.5in or smaller device with specs similar to an S4/One. In that regard, iPhone is the only high end device available for customers who prefer a smaller size phone.

EDIT: Jester said the same thing essentially.

5starpool

Obviously different for different people, but the ability to use the phone with one hand isn't something that ranks highly in the decision making process for me personally.