Irish travellers arrive in Polish town...

Dostoevsky

Irish Travellers accused of fighting and disturbances in Poland

'The staff member said the hotel sent out a warning to other hotels after the guests spent the night drinking heavily and banging on other guests’ rooms as well as throwing items out of the windows.
The news site also said the behaviour of about 35 Travellers in a local campsite had been “scandalous”...'

So, is this the sort of thing that happens when we discriminate against travellers or is this the result of our discrimination against them? Or both? Are they getting away with too much by playing the "discrimination" card?

zl1whqvjs75cdy

They are acting the dick. No discrimination but unfortunately not very surprising.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Irish Travellers accused of fighting and disturbances in Poland

'The staff member said the hotel sent out a warning to other hotels after the guests spent the night drinking heavily and banging on other guests’ rooms as well as throwing items out of the windows.
The news site also said the behaviour of about 35 Travellers in a local campsite had been “scandalous”...'

So, is this the sort of thing that happens when we discriminate against travellers or is this the result of our discrimination against them? Or both? Are they getting away with too much by playing the "discrimination" card?

Nice piece of selective quoting by the Op, who left this nugget out,
"However, when contacted by The Irish Times yesterday, the manager said the guests, who had stayed “four or five days”, were not as bad as the earlier reports had suggested"

kraggy

Polish people, both the authorities and public, don't waste time and generally get straight to the point.

Hopefully they will do should any Irish, traveller or otherwise, act the eejit in their country.

mickdw

They are a disgrace.
They terrorise the local town here each summer yet continue to play the discrimination card.

Patrick2010

Its their culture.

dirtyden

It's their culture.

Sunglasses Ron

It's their culture.

wandatowell

^^^^weird

Sunglasses Ron

wandatowell wrote: »

^^^^weird

How dare you break the line!

Patrick2010

Great minds...

Annasopra

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Great minds...

Where?

floggg

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Great minds...

Or fools seldom...

Lumbo

TV3 are sending out one of their camera crews to make a documentary. If you miss the first showing, don't worry, it'll be repeated 100's of times.

oldyouth

It is scandalous to depict these people as behaving any differently to other Irish people who travel abroad for holidays. One or 2 incidents and everyone is all over travellers as being criminals, thugs, layabouts and thieves. As a country, we should accept travellers as being a colourful facet of our diverse identity. Makes me mad :mad:





For anyone without a sarcasm detector, please view my previous posts on the subject

RachaelVO

blah blah Ah sure they do that here all the time blah blah

blah discrimination blah
blah messers blah

Doesn't matter if their travellers, Irish or whatever, they acted the bollox and shouldn't have

kneemos

Are these the same travellers that ended up in Australia?

MrJoeSoap

At least they're actually travelling...

dj jarvis

in the last year i have read reports of Irish travelers causing mayhem in Sweden , Finland , Germany , Bulgaria , Hungary , Netherlands and France,
and the thing is when reported the thing that will stick in the locals minds in not the word travelers or gypsies but the word Irish :mad:

the local police should just come down hard on these wasters , some hard and long time might cool their jets,
I have NO idea why these people are tolerated here , let alone abroad.
If a group of "settled" people acted the same in a holiday resort they would be taken care of quick enough.

a really blatant case of one rule for them and one for us.

photofinish

People on the left who cry discrimination only make the situation worse.
Until these people are held fully accountable for their actions just like everybody else I will feel totally justified in running a mile to avoid them.

wicklowstevo

they should be beaten to an inch of their lives and left for dead on the side of a road in the middle of no where

why ?

because that what they would do to you.

travellers who go on a rampage abroad are running from something here fact !

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Banned

Augmerson

You'd just be afraid that when these things get abroad, people mistake them for being Irish, and their not.

lkionm

Yes!!!!

Another traveller bashing thread

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Augmerson wrote: »

You'd just be afraid that when these things get abroad, people mistake them for being Irish, and their not.

In this alleged case, the seriousness of which is disputed by the hotel in question, they are described as Irish.

oldyouth

lkionm wrote: »

Yes!!!!

Another traveller bashing thread

There's not nearly enough of them. The solution is to have one mega-thread as a sticky and leave it unlocked

frozenfrozen

Did they mean members of the travelling community or Irish people who had traveled to Poland?

photofinish

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Did they mean members of the travelling community or Irish people who had traveled to Poland?

Yes it was a mistake it was actually an elderly group who were in Poland to study eastern architecture.
The group started to get out of hand when staff informed them they had no idea what Lyons fine blend was.

downonthefarm

at least them mad roiders wont put up with their ****e

gordongekko

Are all travellers Irish? Surely with all this travelling they are doing there should be a few polish travellers somewhere.

lkionm

oldyouth wrote: »

There's not nearly enough of them. The solution is to have one mega-thread as a sticky and leave it unlocked

And just so we aren't biased we can have a thread for every other minority as to promote equality so no discriminatory bashing will happen

Winky face

crockholm

gordongekko wrote: »

Are all travellers Irish? Surely with all this travelling they are doing there should be a few polish travellers somewhere.

I'm sure some of the slaves would be polish;)

downonthefarm

the poles were hitlers traveler when mcdonaghs were still selling tin from the wanderly wagon.
they wont buy into the disrimination claptrap

Knob Longman

Augmerson wrote: »

You'd just be afraid that when these things get abroad, people mistake them for being Irish, and their not.

Just like when Irish people moan about "Romanians".

dd972

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bumper234

I wonder what would happen to us settled folk if a bunch of us took a town (Borriss Co Carlow) over for day for a horse and left it in this state. Do you think we would be allowed to get away with it?

http://www.independent.ie/migration_catalog/article25332912.ece/ALTERNATES/w300square/Council-workers


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Nodin

dd972 wrote: »

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The_Valeyard

Lumbo wrote: »

TV3 are sending out one of their camera crews to make a documentary. If you miss the first showing, don't worry, it'll be repeated 100's of times.

TV3? That channel still around?

My name is URL

Dostoevsky wrote: »

the guests spent the night drinking heavily and banging on other guests’ rooms as well as throwing items out of the windows.

Sounds like the typical carry on you'd expect from scumbags when they're on holiday. Does the fact that they're travellers somehow make their actions any more noteworthy?

Nodin

The_Valeyard wrote: »

TV3? That channel still around?

It was moved on, but its still in the area.

Dostoevsky

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Did they mean members of the travelling community or Irish people who had traveled to Poland?

Very good, frozenfrozen. I think the nuance went over everybody's head. The op only mentioned Irish travellers, not Irish Travellers. So much for all this labelling...

WilyCoyote

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Very good, frozenfrozen. I think the nuance went over everybody's head. The op only mentioned Irish travellers, not Irish Travellers. So much for all this labelling...

Please tell me that I'm wrong Dostoevsky. Are you taking your meds? Talking in the second person singular always raises a red flag.

bumper234

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Very good, frozenfrozen. I think the nuance went over everybody's head. The op only mentioned Irish travellers, not Irish Travellers. So much for all this labelling...

So when you see a headline like that you don't think of Irish "travelers" but of the traveling Irish?

Nodin

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Please tell me that I'm wrong Dostoevsky. Are you taking your meds? Talking in the second person singular always raises a red flag.

Orange. Referring to a group in the singular gets the red.

WilyCoyote

Nodin wrote: »

Orange. Referring to a group in the singular gets the red.

Sorry. My bad, worse worst!

shane9689

i say severe clamp down... i still dont understand why it hasnt been put in place. treat em like you treat your neighbour....with a fierce beating back into their own corner

dharma200

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Irish Travellers accused of fighting and disturbances in Poland

'The staff member said the hotel sent out a warning to other hotels after the guests spent the night drinking heavily and banging on other guests’ rooms as well as throwing items out of the windows.
The news site also said the behaviour of about 35 Travellers in a local campsite had been “scandalous”...'

So, is this the sort of thing that happens when we discriminate against travellers or is this the result of our discrimination against them? Or both? Are they getting away with too much by playing the "discrimination" card?

Bunch of Irish people on holiday, get drunk, act like dicks...... Sounds like pretty much most of large groups of Irish on holiday.... The fact they were travellers is completely irrelevant....

endacl

oldyouth wrote: »

It is scandalous to depict these people as behaving any differently to other Irish people who travel abroad for holidays. One or 2 incidents and everyone is all over travellers as being criminals, thugs, layabouts and thieves. As a country, we should accept travellers as being a colourful facet of our diverse identity. Makes me mad :mad:





For anyone without a sarcasm detector, please view my previous posts on the subject

I don't have much time for criminals, thugs, layabouts and thieves. Travellers, on the other hand, I've no problem with really. The ones that I know are grand people.

Boxtyeater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1soT59JcTY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Aineoil

I think that some travellers don't do themselves any favours. Having said that some Irish people, who are not travellers don't do themselves any favours either.

But I do think there is discrimination.

About three years ago, I was stopped at a garda check point. I didn't have tax on the car, I only found out later that my tax disc was out. (I was mortified when I thought about it later). Anyway, I was waved through the check point. There was a traveller family in a van behind me and they were pulled over.

Maybe the van had no tax or insurance, I don't know. But my tax disc was out of date and I should have been pulled over too.

dharma200

It really depends on how far out your tax is, as in two months or more, and also the precise reason why the check point is there.... They could have been specifically there to arrest said people in van and your tax was irrelevant to that particular check point

Duck's hoop

Aineoil wrote: »

But I do think there is discrimination.

I'm sure this thread will not disabuse you of that thought.