Lenovo Y510p

Harps

Just wondering if anyone knows when this laptop is due for release in Ireland? Its listed on the Irish Lenovo website so I'd assume its due to be released but has no price or release date shown and doesn't seem to be available anywhere outside the US

Its currently available starting at just €620 on the US site with an i7 Haswell processor and an option for two GT 750M gpu's in SLI so looks like a good bargain for its specs. Not expecting it to be anywhere near that price here but if its to be released soon then I might hold off buying a new laptop

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y510p/

Torqay

Harps wrote: »

Its currently available starting at just €620 on the US site with an i7 Haswell processor and an option for two GT 750M gpu's in SLI so looks like a good bargain for its specs. Not expecting it to be anywhere near that price here but if its to be released soon then I might hold off buying a new laptop

Usually the prices here will be the equivalent in Euro (or more).

If you want a quad Core i7 Haswell now, have a look at the new Optimus V at PCS, with 8 GB RAM and a Nvidia GTX 765M and full HD display it costs 965 yoyos (delivered).

Harps

From the searching I've done I've found that laptops here can be far more expensive than the US, I'd already settled on an MSI laptop from Germany only to find out that they didn't deliver to Ireland and its a couple of hundred more expensive here so I'm back to square one

The Optimus looks good but its a bit on the pricey side, for €720 in the US you can get a full HD Ideapad with an i7 and GT750M with the option of adding another GT750M so I'd like to wait to see what it'll cost before making up my mind. Can't find any info on it though other than being listed on the Irish website

Torqay

Just a reminder: if you purchase in the US, you're liable for 23% VAT.

And if you're thinking about playing games, the GTX 765M is much better than the GT 750M

looking_around

it's the VAT that affects you, so add that to the US price and it rises to €885.

Pcspecialists have a pretty good rep though, and shouldn't be any hassle if there's any problems with the laptop. Do you feel as safe dealing with warranty issues with a company thats out in the US?

Torqay

looking_around wrote: »

it's the VAT that affects you, so add that to the US price and it rises to €885.

And that's the price for the basic version, And the Sli model costs $1,200 or €900 (€1,160 incl VAT)... not exactly cheap either.

Harps

Yep wasn't taking VAT into account so I suppose that accounts for a lot of the difference. I was hoping to keep my budget around €750 but looks like I'll have to go higher if I want a haswell with a decent graphics card.

I came across this posted on Lenovo's facebook page, seemingly its to be released before the end of the month so I'm as well to wait and see

We're getting lots of requests for info on the availability of the Y510p. It will be in retail in the next couple of weeks and of course as soon as we can confirm we'll show you exactly where you can buy it!

Torqay

Harps wrote: »

I was hoping to keep my budget around €750 but looks like I'll have to go higher if I want a haswell with a decent graphics card.

You wouldn't get an Ivy Bridge Core i7 laptop with Full HD display and decent graphics (GTX 670M or better) for 750 yoyos.

Maybe wait for the Haswell Core i5 to arrive.

Harps

Torqay wrote: »

You wouldn't get an Ivy Bridge Core i7 laptop with Full HD display and decent graphics (GTX 670M or better) for 750 yoyos.

Maybe wait for the Haswell Core i5 to arrive.

I can get an MSI ge60 for around €750 with an Ivy Bridge i7 and a 660M, thats about the best deal I can find within my budget. I was happy enough with that but I've since read that the haswell processors will be a considerable improvement for things like battery life though so I'm prepared to wait a bit.

I'd be happy with the base model full HD Y510p for now if its reasonably priced, you can add a 2nd graphics card later so that would spread out the cost a bit

Torqay

Harps wrote: »

I can get an MSI ge60 for around €750 with an Ivy Bridge i7 and a 660M, thats about the best deal I can find within my budget. I was happy enough with that but I've since read that the haswell processors will be a considerable improvement for things like battery life though so I'm prepared to wait a bit.

I'd be happy with the base model full HD Y510p for now if its reasonably priced, you can add a 2nd graphics card later so that would spread out the cost a bit

Notebookcheck lists the GTX 660M as "upper mid-range", the GTX 670M as "high-end". There is a quite significant difference between the two, even more so when it comes to Full HD resolution.

And while Haswell chips might be a little more power-efficient than their predecessors, it will hardly matter with high end gaming graphics, they'll eat up your power savings in no time. Rule of thumb: with a gaming laptop you don't want to be too far away from a power outlet.

I'd say a Haswell Core i7 laptop with full HD display, 8GB RAM and a GTX 765M (which is faster than the GTX 670M) for 970 yoyos is a reasonably enough.

Harps

Gaming using the battery is obviously a bad idea but I'd be using it for more casual things like browsing and work as well so battery life is still a consideration

I move around a lot for work so what I'd like is something to replace my xbox, a 660M would probably do the job with a bit of compromise but for another €200 I suppose I could future proof it for a while.

Decisions...

Torqay

Well, if you compare Lenovo's prices for models which are available in the US and Ireland, you'll have to add 10% and then change the $ for the € sign.

Considering this, the y580p with a Core7 and full HD display, will cost €1,066. Quite steep for a multimedia laptop (as which it is being labled). Add to this the price for a 2nd GT 750M (which you'll definitely need for more demanding games at 1920x1080), we're talking 1,200 yoyos. Makes PC Specialist's offer look much better.

This is not to say, that it will not become available later from 3rd party outlets for less than Lenovo is asking, but still, I'm not overly thrilled by the specs.

chris.c2010

Currys.co.uk are now selling it! Pretty steep considering the U.S version ships with dual gpu's and the one available here ships with just one.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-y510p-15-6-laptop-21426637-pdt.html

Boysey

I rang Lenevo about them yesterday, the guy said they're hoping to have them in early next week. Unfortunately they won't know the prices until they're in.

Have been looking for a couple of weeks for a new laptop, really like the look of it - Seemed a good value reasonably powerful setup, hope the price carries over to us and we don't get mugged!

Torqay

Boysey wrote: »

Seemed a good value reasonably powerful setup, hope the price carries over to us and we don't get mugged!

Looking at the UK prices, expect nothing less than muggery.

chris.c2010 wrote: »

Currys.co.uk are now selling it! Pretty steep

900 Sterling translates into €1,055. It seems, I wasn't too far off with my original estimate:

Torqay wrote: »

Well, if you compare Lenovo's prices for models which are available in the US and Ireland, you'll have to add 10% and then change the $ for the € sign.

Considering this, the y580p with a Core7 and full HD display, will cost €1,066.

Oh, hold on, they only pay 20% VAT in the UK, so expect it to be more like 1,100 yoyos here.

Boysey

Your reckoning looks to be spot on...

I saw a German site has stated that the SLI 8GB and 8GB BluRay models wilk be €1100. They've a 16GB SLI version then for €1200. Not sure if there's a lower spec cheaper model.

I'd hope we would get a similar price over here!

strongback

I see the y580p is now selling on the Lenovo website for €1199. No SLI on the graphics.


Nvidia GeForce GT 755M 2GB

16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz

4th Generation Intel Core i7-4700MQ Processor( 2.40GHz 1600MHz 6MB)

1TB 5400rpm + 8GB SSD cache




Anybody know any similarly spec's alternatives.

Torqay

strongback wrote: »

I see the y580p is now selling on the Lenovo website for €1199. No SLI on the graphics.

OUCH!

strongback wrote: »

Anybody know any similarly spec's alternatives.

For 17 yoyos less you'll get this:



€1,182 delivered... much better graphics and a real SSD.

Harps

Well overpriced as you predicted!

I enquired about the SLI option and seemingly there's no plans to offer it here in the immediate future. Also having read up about the 755M apparently its not 'SLI Ready' so I'll be spending my money elsewhere, the Optimus definitely looks like the best deal for that price range

strongback

There's the German MYSN laptops that are well spec'd for the money.

http://mysn.co.uk/shop/xmg-p503.htm



Personally I prefer to stick with the main brands and even more so the biggest selling models as there will be plenty of people across the world trouble shooting problems for that model.

Torqay

MYSN/Schenker are using the same Clevo barebones as PC Specialist, There is a company in Dublin selling them as well, sadly though they're rather expensive, compared to Schenker or PC Specialist.

strongback

I noticed on the UK PC World website that they are selling the Y510p for £899 sterling.

PC World are also doing a cash back deal valued at £100 that can be claimed 21 to 60 days after purchasing the laptop. To get the cashback there is a bit of form filling to do but in saying that if somebody has the patience to do that they pick up the Y510p for £799 sterling which at AIB's currency exchange rate of today equals to €952. I'd take a punt at that price.

At €952 it gives scope to buy a second NVidia graphics card for SLI which can handily be popped into the Ultrabay without the need to do any stripping of the laptop.

The snag is PC World in the UK and Ireland don't have any in stock and already have a pre-order book which they will have to get through.

PC World in Dublin told me the UK are taking deliveries in the first couple of weeks in September but these machines are earmarked for the pre-order customers.

The PC World price in the Republic will be €1099 or €1149 to be confirmed. PC world in the South are also doing the cashback deal which is for €100 so if the price is €1099 that means the laptop can be picked up in the South for €999.

Torqay

strongback wrote: »

At €952 it gives scope to buy a second NVidia graphics card for SLI which can handily be popped into the Ultrabay without the need to do any stripping of the laptop.

Whatever the price will be eventually, shelling out another 300 yoyos for the "slot-in" GT 750M (which is not yet available) is a tough call. SLI boosts the performance by 50% at best. A single GTX 770M would be running circles around a dual GT 750M SLI setup.

Harps

According to notebookcheck the gaming performance of the dual setup and a 770M are very similar, review here..

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y510p-Notebook.97470.0.html

The SLI version is available for €1100 on notebooksbilliger though I don't know if they ship to Ireland

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo+ideapad+y510p+59367400+gaming+notebook/eqsqid/ebbff832-b9ca-4a47-aa8e-ac50908eb7a1

Torqay

Harps wrote: »

The SLI version is available for €1100 on notebooksbilliger though I don't know if they ship to Ireland

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/lenovo+ideapad+y510p+59367400+gaming+notebook/eqsqid/ebbff832-b9ca-4a47-aa8e-ac50908eb7a1

Not quite available, it's on pre-order (vorbestellen).

Yes, they do ship to Ireland (€29.99).

Keyboard is QWERTZ.

Eoin247

Seems currys.co.uk are out of stock. Anywhere else we can get the standard y510p?

strongback

Eoin247 wrote: »

Seems currys.co.uk are out of stock. Anywhere else we can get the standard y510p?

Buy it direct off Lenovo Ireland for €1200 but that's over priced.

John Lewis in the UK are selling them for £999 which is also pricey although John Lewis do provide a 2 year warranty on all electrical goods including laptops.

It looks like it will be another month before they become properly available.

chris.c2010

Komplett are selling the standard y510p for €1,049 and the sli for €1,149. The sli version is due in stock tomorrow.

http://komplett.ie/Komplett/site/SearchResult.aspx?searchTerm=y510p

Sebzy

Tried buying from Lenovo direct but during checkout got an out of stock error.
Might try komplett.

Torqay

Apparently they have a problem with Turbo Boost. As a result the old Y500p outperforms the Y510p in certain scenarios:

Cinebench R10 clearly shows the lack of Turbo Boost: the IdeaPad Y510p ended up with 19383 points - quite a bit less than other notebooks with the same i7-4700MQ CPU. The One K56-3N2, for example, scored about 5000 points more (+26%). The IdeaPad Y500 with the i7-3630QM also outperforms the Y510p with 21733 points - a plus of 12%.

Turbo Boost allows for automatic overclocking so the cores run faster than their base operating frequency. In ideal conditions, this increase is more than 1 GHz - but unfortunately, the IdeaPad Y510p suffers from a less-than-perfect implementation of the technology. As long as only one core is under load, everything is fine: 3.3 GHz are close to the upper Turbo Boost limit. When more than one core is tasked or the GPU is stressed, the clock speed drops to only 2.4 GHz. While this technically cannot be called throttling, it is still rather disappointing.

Sebzy

Sebzy wrote: »

Tried buying from Lenovo direct but during checkout got an out of stock error.
Might try komplett.

Looks like Komplett has removed the Y510P SLI from the site just as stock was to be replenished. http://komplett.ie/Komplett/site/SearchResult.aspx?searchTerm=Y510P

Anywhere else selling at a reasonable price?