No offer yet....

BUBBLE WRAP

Hi eveyone, I'm in a bit of a pickel...

So I applied for a few courses at the late applicators stage back in March I think. I swapped around my last choice to my first choice. I wasn't offerend ANYTHING yet today.

Offers/Acceptance Section

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When i click...

Offer Round Dates and Reply Dates

Round A:
Offer Date: 5th July, 2013 from 06:00
Reply Date: 11th July, 2013 by 17:15

In early July a small number of offers of places may be issued to applicants such as:
deferred applicants
mature applicants
mature nursing/midwifery code applicants
applicants who have completed an Access course
those who need to make visa arrangements before taking a place
Round Zero:
Offer Date: 1st August, 2013 from 06:00
Reply Date: 8th August, 2013 by 17:15

In early August there will be an issue of offers of places which go to certain categories of applicant who are not competing with those awaiting 2013 examination results or who are assessed on other criteria, i.e. graduate entry medicine applicants, additional mature, deferred and Access applicants and applicants presenting FETAC (2002-2013) for consideration for entry to courses with a quota for FETAC applicants may also be included at this stage.

Round One:
Offer Date: 19th August, 2013 from 06:00
Reply Date: 26th August, 2013 by 17:15

Issue of main body of offers take place after Irish Leaving Certificate Examination results become available. All applicants applying of the basis of school leaving examination results, regardless of year completed, are offered in this round.

At the same time as first round offers of places are issued to successful applicants, notices are sent to those who do not receive any offer.

Round Two:
Offer Date: 29th August, 2013 from 06:00
Reply Date: 4th September, 2013 by 17:15

A second round of offers will be issued to fill any remaining vacancies.

After Round Two:
Offers will be issued as necessary until October to fill any vacancies which may arise.

The offer date I have in bold is what I thought when I got my offers, but nothing yet. Whats wrong do ye think???

Thanks..

Corvo Attano

If there is nothing by now and you know thats your date the its time to get on the phone to CAO

fontdor

Wait I'm kinda confused do we get offered places now Or when the lc results are out?

Confuseddot

hey i dont think leaving certs get offered until nearer the end of the month. FETAC offers were made today !

rubberdungeon

July 31st

CAO starts round zero offers. Over 2,000 places in higher certificate, ordinary degree and higher degree courses are offered to mature non-standard applicants or those presenting Fetac awards for consideration.

These offers will appear on the CAO website from 10am on August 1st.

August 14th

State Examinations Commission delivers Leaving Cert results to over 700 schools. They are available online at examinations.ie from noon.

August 19th

CAO releases round one offers to candidates online at 6am. Offer notices are sent by post to candidates, and will also arrive on August 19th. Minimum points required for entry to each course will be available on CAO website from 6am.


http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/calendar-of-dates-until-the-end-of-cao-offer-process-1.1431768

Confuseddot

rubberdungeon wrote: »

July 31st

CAO starts round zero offers. Over 2,000 places in higher certificate, ordinary degree and higher degree courses are offered to mature non-standard applicants or those presenting Fetac awards for consideration.

These offers will appear on the CAO website from 10am on August 1st.

August 14th

State Examinations Commission delivers Leaving Cert results to over 700 schools. They are available online at examinations.ie from noon.

August 19th

CAO releases round one offers to candidates online at 6am. Offer notices are sent by post to candidates, and will also arrive on August 19th. Minimum points required for entry to each course will be available on CAO website from 6am.


http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/calendar-of-dates-until-the-end-of-cao-offer-process-1.1431768

hey rubberdungoen ! I got no FETAC offer from the cao today .. do u know if we get another round of offers or was it just today !! thanks a mill

fontdor

OK So when the LC results come out, do we get offered places by the CAO only via post or can we check what we are offered via the CAO website under my application?

keelanj69

fontdor wrote: »

OK So when the LC results come out, do we get offered places by the CAO only via post or can we check what we are offered via the CAO website under my application?

Both.

6am (I think) online.

Emmab95

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Hi eveyone, I'm in a bit of a pickel...

So I applied for a few courses at the late applicators stage back in March I think. I swapped around my last choice to my first choice. I wasn't offerend ANYTHING yet today.



When i click...



The offer date I have in bold is what I thought when I got my offers, but nothing yet. Whats wrong do ye think???

Thanks..

What colleges did you apply to?

BrownBear11

fontdor wrote: »

OK So when the LC results come out, do we get offered places by the CAO only via post or can we check what we are offered via the CAO website under my application?

Yep, both They're available online from 6am onwards and then you'll get a letter in the post with your two offers (Level 8 and Level 6/7) as well as that

BUBBLE WRAP

Corvo Attano wrote: »

If there is nothing by now and you know thats your date the its time to get on the phone to CAO

You recon? Sh1t!

Corvo Attano

Well they arnt generally late and you are told if you arnt offered anything so yes there has been an error most likely

BUBBLE WRAP

Corvo Attano wrote: »

Well they arnt generally late and you are told if you arnt offered anything so yes there has been an error most likely

But does it matter I changed my mind? During the "Change of mind" stage..?

Corvo Attano

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

I changed my mind during the "Change of mind" stage.

If you read this statement does it answer that.

BUBBLE WRAP

Corvo Attano wrote: »

If you read this statement does it answer that.

Em, bit confused now. But is there offers out for the "Change of mind" thing? Or is it in with other offers??

Corvo Attano

The CAO arnt there to dick you around like that and as far as I know all offers come out at the same time. Thats how it is for LC regardless of when you last changed your form.

You need to get on to them and see whats the story.

BUBBLE WRAP

Corvo Attano wrote: »

The CAO arnt there to dick you around like that and as far as I know all offers come out at the same time. Thats how it is for LC regardless of when you last changed your form.

You need to get on to them and see whats the story.

Sound I will do that tomorrow.. Thanks.

BUBBLE WRAP

Called up the CAO, and explained that I wasn't offered anything.

me: Hello, I was expecting an offer for yesterday but didn't receive one"

CAO Person: Erm, You didn't receive one so.

Me: I know, that's why I'm calling. {*Insert "You don't say" meme here*}

CAO Person: You MAY (Sounded very sarcastic) receive one in the next round.

Me: Oh right so bye.

I was fed up as that person didn't even want to speak to me or help me in any way. Disappointed is an understatement for me. So The chance of me receiving an offer next time is pretty slim imo..

So what should I do? I'm totally lost now...

Slow Show

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Called up the CAO, and explained that I wasn't offered anything.

me: Hello, I was expecting an offer for yesterday but didn't receive one"

CAO Person: Erm, You didn't receive one so.

Me: I know, that's why I'm calling. {*Insert "You don't say" meme here*}

CAO Person: You MAY (Sounded very sarcastic) receive one in the next round.

Me: Oh right so bye.

I was fed up as that person didn't even want to speak to me or help me in any way. Disappointed is an understatement for me. So The chance of me receiving an offer next time is pretty slim imo..

So what should I do? I'm totally lost now...

Did you meet all the criteria for the course? If you did don't let it get away, ring them up again.

gypsylee

I am a bit confused by your post. Did you do your LC this year or do a FETAC/PLC course?

If LC then the offers are out on the 19th of August at 6.00 a.m.

Some FETAC/PLC applicants received offers yesterday, most have to wait until the 19th of August also.

Corvo Attano

Now the above I wasn't aware of. I though all FETAC/PLC places were either Round A or Round 0

gypsylee

Corvo Attano - that's the impression I got from reading the threads on the FETAC board. Apologies if I am wrong.

rainbowtrout

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Hi eveyone, I'm in a bit of a pickel...

So I applied for a few courses at the late applicators stage back in March I think. I swapped around my last choice to my first choice. I wasn't offerend ANYTHING yet today.

Late application for what?

Mature student?
FETAC?
Leaving Cert?

Nobody here is going to know which date applies for you unless they know which category you applied under.

BUBBLE WRAP

Slow Show wrote: »

Did you meet all the criteria for the course? If you did don't let it get away, ring them up again.

Yes indeed I did.

BUBBLE WRAP

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Late application for what?

Mature student?
FETAC?
Leaving Cert?

Nobody here is going to know which date applies for you unless they know which category you applied under.

FETEC, but you know with the first round of application go through, the in March, they give you another chance to apply for the course then.

rainbowtrout

Slow Show wrote: »

Did you meet all the criteria for the course? If you did don't let it get away, ring them up again.

Meeting the criteria for the course doesn't mean you'll be accepted. If the OP got 400 points which is the max through Fetac and there were 10 places on his/ her course of choice and 15 people applied with 400 points from Fetac courses then it would probably go to random selection.

Doing a Fetac course does not guarantee that an offer will be made.

Pestering the CAO won't make them change their mind. The only thing the CAO can do is make sure the Fetac results were reveived by them for entry into the system

BUBBLE WRAP

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Meeting the criteria for the course doesn't mean you'll be accepted. If the OP got 400 points which is the max through Fetac and there were 10 places on his/ her course of choice and 15 people applied with 400 points from Fetac courses then it would probably go to random selection.

Doing a Fetac course does not guarantee that an offer will be made.

Pestering the CAO won't make them change their mind. The only thing the CAO can do is make sure the Fetac results were reveived by them for entry into the system

But usually, if you don't receive your first choice, you then receive your second, if not second then third etc etc.

I havn't recieved anything at all...

rainbowtrout

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

But usually, if you don't receive your first choice, you then receive your second, if not second then third etc etc.

I havn't recieved anything at all...

Sometimes but not always. The same thing could have happened on all of those courses, particularly Nursing which I believe has become quite popular to enter through FETAC. Former student of mine did Nursing PLC, got 8 distinctions, no offers. Simply too many applicants.

Check with the CAO that they have your results, but you may have just been unlucky or up against candidates who had higher points than you. Lots of mature students, early school leavers, students who didn't do well in Leaving Cert are now using PLCs as an access route to college. If you applied for popular courses in popular colleges getting in may not be easy.

randylonghorn

Moved from LC.

Given that you are applying to CAO based on your FETAC results, I suspect that the good people here will be more familiar with the relevant systems.

BUBBLE WRAP

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Sometimes but not always. The same thing could have happened on all of those courses, particularly Nursing which I believe has become quite popular to enter through FETAC. Former student of mine did Nursing PLC, got 8 distinctions, no offers. Simply too many applicants.

Check with the CAO that they have your results, but you may have just been unlucky or up against candidates who had higher points than you. Lots of mature students, early school leavers, students who didn't do well in Leaving Cert are now using PLCs as an access route to college. If you applied for popular courses in popular colleges getting in may not be easy.

Ah here, this just keeps getting even more depressing...

BUBBLE WRAP

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Sometimes but not always. The same thing could have happened on all of those courses, particularly Nursing which I believe has become quite popular to enter through FETAC. Former student of mine did Nursing PLC, got 8 distinctions, no offers. Simply too many applicants.

Check with the CAO that they have your results, but you may have just been unlucky or up against candidates who had higher points than you. Lots of mature students, early school leavers, students who didn't do well in Leaving Cert are now using PLCs as an access route to college. If you applied for popular courses in popular colleges getting in may not be easy.

Oh just too add,

At the same time as first round offers of places are issued to successful applicants, notices are sent to those who do not receive any offer.

I got no notice yet, So maybe there is still hope????

rainbowtrout

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Oh just too add,



I got no notice yet, So maybe there is still hope????

Only the CAO have the answer to this.

Ring them on Monday.
Quote your application number/exam number/whatever.
Tell them you were expecting an offer and didn't receive a letter either way and confirm if it is standard practice to receive a 'no offer' letter if you don't get an offer.
Check with them that your FETAC results were linked to your application.


Only then will you know for definite.

aecommedes

Ok so I received no offers in round zero like none! Rang cao and were told they have no bloody results for me and everyone from my college are in the same situation.
No one knows who's at fault and why weren't our results sent to cao, it's bloody ridiculous.

I would suggest calling cao just to confirm if your results are there or not.

rainbowtrout

aecommedes wrote: »

Ok so I received no offers in round zero like none! Rang cao and were told they have no bloody results for me and everyone from my college are in the same situation.
No one knows who's at fault and why weren't our results sent to cao, it's bloody ridiculous.

I would suggest calling cao just to confirm if your results are there or not.

Surely if they got no results for anyone attending your college then your college is at fault and should be your next port of call? The CAO can only process applications where they receive results, it's not up to them to go chasing results. Crap for you and your classmates, but follow it up with your college immediately.

aecommedes

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Surely if they got no results for anyone attending your college then your college is at fault and should be your next port of call?

Of course we were all onto the college, they weren't sure what happened, rang QQI/Fetac and was told college submitted them for the wrong round?
Also our results are resubmitted now, all they said was they are very very sorry.
The college will be investigating this next week.

Edit: I was dumbfounded that day, couldn't believe it of course CAO already said this to me. But now we have to compete with leaving certs.
After spending so much, working so hard, wasting a yr wasn't expecting this at all.

rainbowtrout

aecommedes wrote: »

Of course we were all onto the college, they weren't sure what happened, rang QQI/Fetac and was told college submitted them for the wrong round?
Also our results are resubmitted now, all they said was they are very very sorry.
The college will be investigating this next week.

Edit: I was dumbfounded that day, couldn't believe it of course CAO already said this to me. But now we have to compete with leaving certs.
After spending so much, working so hard, wasting a yr wasn't expecting this at all.

FETAC have four periods of certification during the year. The most common one for PLC colleges following the typical school year is June so you probably did your exams in May, results are processed in June and submitted to CAO for July/August offers. They must have submitted them for one of the other FETAC assessment periods.

aecommedes

rainbowtrout wrote: »

FETAC have four periods of certification during the year. The most common one for PLC colleges following the typical school year is June so you probably did your exams in May, results are processed in June and submitted to CAO for July/August offers. They must have submitted them for one of the other FETAC assessment periods.

I have no idea about that but yeah did my exams in May and got my results in late June. I'm definitely sure that my results were submitted to be in July/August offers.
Anyways the college will be investigating this next week, so we will be getting some answers then.
For the time being we are told that we will get offers in round 1.

Further Ed.

rainbowtrout wrote: »

FETAC have four periods of certification during the year. The most common one for PLC colleges following the typical school year is June so you probably did your exams in May, results are processed in June and submitted to CAO for July/August offers. They must have submitted them for one of the other FETAC assessment periods.

Actually FETAC/QQI have 6 certification periods and some of the very large providers are on a rolling certification process with their own internal dates so it is difficult to establish which certification period they are entering the candidates for.


Of course we were all onto the college, they weren't sure what happened, rang QQI/Fetac and was told college submitted them for the wrong round?
Also our results are resubmitted now, all they said was they are very very sorry.
The college will be investigating this next week.

Edit: I was dumbfounded that day, couldn't believe it of course CAO already said this to me. But now we have to compete with leaving certs.
After spending so much, working so hard, wasting a yr wasn't expecting this at all.


Once you received your results from your college then they were entered on the FETAC/QQI system so it is more than likely it is in the transfer of the results file to the CAO that the error occurred. It is probably likely that this error will be treated in the same way that if a Leaving cert students results changes as a result of an appeal then they are not disadvantaged and if they are entitled to an offer they receive it.

You may receive your offers in Round 1 but that does not mean that you are competing against the Leaving Cert students (see the code on your course on the right hand side of the page on the FETAC link on the CAO website). It just means that instead of having a special round for your group your offers are included with the Round 1 offers.

So don't be too disheartened, remember the various organisations -your centre/college, FETAC/QQI and CAO work towards ensuring you receive what you are eligible for.

Best of luck

BUBBLE WRAP

Further Ed. wrote: »

Actually FETAC/QQI have 6 certification periods and some of the very large providers are on a rolling certification process with their own internal dates so it is difficult to establish which certification period they are entering the candidates for.


Of course we were all onto the college, they weren't sure what happened, rang QQI/Fetac and was told college submitted them for the wrong round?
Also our results are resubmitted now, all they said was they are very very sorry.
The college will be investigating this next week.

Edit: I was dumbfounded that day, couldn't believe it of course CAO already said this to me. But now we have to compete with leaving certs.
After spending so much, working so hard, wasting a yr wasn't expecting this at all.


Once you received your results from your college then they were entered on the FETAC/QQI system so it is more than likely it is in the transfer of the results file to the CAO that the error occurred. It is probably likely that this error will be treated in the same way that if a Leaving cert students results changes as a result of an appeal then they are not disadvantaged and if they are entitled to an offer they receive it.

You may receive your offers in Round 1 but that does not mean that you are competing against the Leaving Cert students (see the code on your course on the right hand side of the page on the FETAC link on the CAO website). It just means that instead of having a special round for your group your offers are included with the Round 1 offers.

So don't be too disheartened, remember the various organisations -your centre/college, FETAC/QQI and CAO work towards ensuring you receive what you are eligible for.

Best of luck

Are you quoting me with the BOLD text above?

92Grainne1992

First round on Monday, only the big colleges (UCD, DCU, UL, UCC, NUIG, NUIM) had offers on the first. All the IT's and the smaller colleges will have the offers on monday and we'll be competing with the leaving cert

BUBBLE WRAP

92Grainne1992 wrote: »

First round on Monday, only the big colleges (UCD, DCU, UL, UCC, NUIG, NUIM) had offers on the first. All the IT's and the smaller colleges will have the offers on monday and we'll be competing with the leaving cert

Ah Cheers. I was thinkin' somthin' was fish..

Further Ed.

It is not based on the college as to when the offer is made but rather on whether there is a quota or not on the course ie whether it is in Round Zero when reserved offers for FETAC and Mature applicants etc are made or 1 which is when Leaving Cert students get their offers.

See the code alongside the course in the CAO listing for FETAC Information
http://www2.cao.ie/fetac/fetac_search.php

UPD - The score is used to rank applicants among school leavers as well as those presenting FETAC. This means you are competing with Leaving Cert students for places.
MAN - The score is used to rank FETAC applicants for consideration for entry to a FETAC quota course. This means that you are only competing with FETAC applicants as there is a quota reserved.

Best of luck