The Pat Kenny Show

LambshankRedemption · 15-12-2023 09:55AM

Listening to Ciaran Cuffe with Pat earlier. I thought it was only Eamon Ryan living with his head in the clouds, but it seems Ciaran is up there with him.

whisky_galore · 18-12-2023 09:23AM

More naive, well-meaning PC blandness from Ivana this morning.

Everyone is employable, go on out of that.

Gen.Zhukov · 18-12-2023 09:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121508981#Comment_121508981

She's wetter than the North Atlantic - She won't be happy until the LP are but a distant memory

letsseehere14 · 18-12-2023 09:33AM

Bacik must have mentioned the far right a dozen times there. The big boogie man responsible for everything, vote for us to stop them. Even when Pat rightly voiced the concerns of the normal citizen she reverted to battling the far right.

Pat asked her how many refugees have been housed in her constituency of Dublin Bay South - failed to answer the question, dodged it.

Spoke about Labours plan to build 50,000 new homes a year surpassing the plan of the current governments 30,000 per year but when pushed on how they will implement this and where the labourers will live she didnt have an answer. One listener mentioned temporary accom on site as they do on large sites in Scandanavia, which is true, and she sounded like this was a completely new idea to her that had never even been considered before. If so what was their plan?

Spoke about how everyone is employable and it just needs focused help and resources. More soft touch bull to deal with welfare leeches and scumbags.

My god she is out of touch and therefor so is Labour. I could not vote for them listening to that. 15 minutes of ideological hogwash.

humberklog · 18-12-2023 09:47AM

The usual snooty bland platitudes from Ivana, treats every interview like a game of debating dodgeball.

But now with an extra twist of Far Right Fear mongering.

horse7 · 18-12-2023 09:52AM

Re comment on the pat Kenny show just now about illegal Irish people in USA, these people have to work somehow to support themselves and there are no supports given.

whisky_galore · 18-12-2023 09:59AM

One text in support of Ivana, probably herself on her phone in the NT lobby!

Fair play to PK he's having a reasonable discussion, in contrast to Breakfast where Healy and Coleman both are afraid of being called the R Word.

18-12-2023 10:13AM

Oh 70 men to be suddenly landed in the back of beyond.

"They have a right"

No wonder it was unpopular.

18-12-2023 10:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509118#Comment_121509118

Pat is fairly cynical on it I think compared to most of the media.

He's calling her out on the whole "wartorn countries" thing.

archfi · 18-12-2023 10:21AM

Ivana Bacik and Pauline O'Reilly on one after the other.

A rollercoaster of morally righteous superiors this morning.

18-12-2023 10:23AM

Any of the local TDs on anywhere this morning?

whisky_galore · 18-12-2023 10:26AM

Had to look her up, ah yes a senator, that scans.

Strazdas · 18-12-2023 10:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509183#Comment_121509183

I'm all for Kenny playing devil's advocate but nearly every point he put to Bacik sounded like it came from the manifesto of the National Party - he was practically giving her the 'Ireland is full' spiel.

whisky_galore · 18-12-2023 10:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509222#Comment_121509222

The government themselves practically said "Ireland is full" lately....no accom for males, just sleeping bags.

Strazdas · 18-12-2023 10:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509266#Comment_121509266

They meant literally in terms of emergency accommodation places for refugees being full, certainly not the country....that is what they meant by 'capacity'.

I've no problem with Pat adopting whatever editorial stance he chooses on his own show, but he does sound rather right wing these days...like a posher version of Niall Boylan.

BPKS · 18-12-2023 11:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509297#Comment_121509297

You call Pats view "rather right wing" and that is part of the reason we find ourselves in this situation.

I would call Pats views sensible and practical.

And so would 75% of the population according to a recent opinion poll.

Strazdas · 18-12-2023 11:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509379#Comment_121509379

I'm not sure where he stands on other social issues, but on immigration he definitely sounds on the right wing wing of the spectrum.

But as I said, we live in a democracy and have freedom of speech, so he's perfectly entitled to pursue this angle on his own show if he wishes (people don't have to listen if they don't want to).

whisky_galore · 18-12-2023 11:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509297#Comment_121509297

I'm sure the country has room to allow people to stand in the many acres of bog in the west of Ireland but that is of rather literally cold comfort to people who were sold a pup and informed that this was some sort of promised land. Don't take in people if you can't look after them.

Hungry Burger · 18-12-2023 11:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509297#Comment_121509297

Being right wing is a completely common, acceptable and mainstream political opinion.

neris · 18-12-2023 11:44AM

Hes not right wing hes just saying what the vast majority of the men and women on the street are saying and thinking. The media and political classes have created an echo chamber that they live in and dont want to hear what the people think. Backic & the The Green party senator he had on after her are perfect examples of how far out of touch the political class are.

Strazdas · 18-12-2023 11:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509550#Comment_121509550

I've no issue with him playing devil's advocate, but he did seem to bring up a lot of right wing talking points around immigration in his interview with Bacik. Nearly every question he asked her sounded like it might have come from Gript or Niall Boylan.

LambshankRedemption · 18-12-2023 11:58AM

If Pat Kenny is right wing, then I am a small green lemon.

He is just asking what many people are thinking. I live near what could be described as a one-horse village in rural Galway. There are 2 pubs, a post office, a filling station with a Supermacs, a cafe, a barbers and a pharmacist. That sounds like Las Vegas compared to Rosscahill where the hotel that was burnt down is. It has one pub, a national school and a few houses. I don't think it even has a shop. The nearest town is about 6 miles away.

So what would 20 asylum seekers do all day? And no information on who was going to be settled there. Do they speak English? Even a little? Are they European or from somewhere else?

Edit: Turns out it wasn't 20 asylum seekers. It was going to be 70.

LambshankRedemption · 18-12-2023 11:59AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509577#Comment_121509577

I think you and I were listening to two different interviews.

chasm · 18-12-2023 12:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494032#Comment_121494032

He has just released his autobiography.....

Tork · 18-12-2023 12:41PM

I dislike Gript and Niall Boylan but when almost nobody in the mainstream media is prepared to discuss the issue of immigration in a grown-up fashion, it gives them oxygen. From my own experience, most Irish people hold a more nuanced view of immigration than has been reflected on the radio or in the newspapers. Talking down to people and dismissing their genuine concerns isn’t going to make the problem go away. Everybody can see with their own eyes that this is an enormous problem and one with huge implications moving forward. I would rather have a broadcaster with the calibre of Pat Kenny asking questions, rather than Gript or a low-rent shock jock like Boylan.

leath_dub · 18-12-2023 01:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509607#Comment_121509607

Not even a village. The nearest urban centre is either Moycullen or Oughterard, and Ross Lake hotel is probably a 3 mile walk before you even get to the Galway to Clifden road