Obese Man Faces Deportation

Mr McBoatface

FATTY Obese Man Faces Deportation Source

A 50-year-old chef, who has already lost 30kg, says it is unfair that he could be kicked out of New Zealand for being "too fat". Officials are worried that Albert Buitenhuis, who weighs 130kg (20st), could one day rack up large bills for the taxpayer and have decided he no longer has "an acceptable standard of health".

IMO - The correct decision and this approach should be adopted by our own government. Tax paying citizens should not have to pay the bill for a foreign unhealthy person.

So what do the healthy tax paying folk of after hours think ?

1ZRed

Set him off to sea and let him be his own island

Celly Smunt

I think a persons health shouldn't be swayed by their nationality.If they need health care and are here legally,treat them.If they're on a temporary visa then maybe send them back for their own health care since they aren't going to be here forever.

If a person is living here permanently and working,why shouldn't they be treated like everybody else?

Annasopra

jobyrne30 wrote: »

FATTY Obese Man Faces Deportation Source

A 50-year-old chef, who has already lost 30kg, says it is unfair that he could be kicked out of New Zealand for being "too fat". Officials are worried that Albert Buitenhuis, who weighs 130kg (20st), could one day rack up large bills for the taxpayer and have decided he no longer has "an acceptable standard of health".

IMO - The correct decision and this approach should be adopted by our own government. Tax paying citizens should not have to pay the bill for a foreign unhealthy person.

So what do the healthy tax paying folk of after hours think ?

This is in New Zealand - nothing to do with Ireland

Sunnyisland

He wants to have his cake and eat it and eat it and eat it and eat it....

BBDBB

cant he treat his own condition himself?

with salads

bodice ripper

I'd rather be fat than in New Zealand.

Pretty Polly

He had already lost 30kg, fair play to him.

Clandestine

I would like to see something similar occur in Ireland. Obesity is becoming more rampant and more actions need to be taken to combat it. e.g Things like fat acceptance movements should be discouraged

Sunnyisland

Is obesity a disease ?






Sorry cathal cloch as I run to my fridge :-)

Hootanany

Some Dump.

Annasopra

Clandestine wrote: »

I would like to see something similar occur in Ireland. Obesity is becoming more rampant and more actions need to be taken to combat it. e.g Things like fat acceptance movements should be discouraged

How would you deport Irish obese people?

The Narrator

"In latest news, Samoans protest deportation of overweight male."

Mr McBoatface

mango salsa wrote: »

How would you deport Irish obese people?

On a very large plane, tell them there is an all you can eat buffet on board

MurdyWurdy

I have permanent residency in NZ - I had to be weighed etc, have blood tests and chest X-rays and a thorough health check before it was granted. They don't want to give you residency if you're going to cost their health system lots of money and fair enough. This was getting residency as a spouse of an NZ citizen as well.

I was on an emigrate NZ forum at the time getting info etc and loads of people, mainly from the UK were declined because of their bmi/waist circumference. They were all dieting to get their visas

What also is interesting is it's very expensive to get residency in NZ, with the fees and health checks it was about $2000. With more money any time I renewed it. My husband has residency here as the spouse of an Irish citizen and they don't charge a penny, the Irish government are losing a good possible revenue source! Probably shouldn't bring it to their attention

le la rat

Where do they draw the line though? First this man. Then who?

Sunnyisland

mango salsa wrote: »

How would you deport Irish obese people?

Put them in guinness barrels

Sunnyisland

For the record I am no trim slim jim meself :-)

pasque

first they should give him tax back for buying food ( and power for cooking) in New Zealand

ToxicPaddy

I think its a bit harsh considering he has already lost 30kgs.

Maybe they should put a condition on his visa and monitor his progress over say the next 2 years with an target weight to aim for. If he makes good progress then let him stay and monitor him, if he doesn't then he has to leave.

However if, as another poster said, it's part of the visa process then he would have known at the time that he needed to monitor his weight and he didn't. So it is kinda his own fault but kicking him out without giving him a chance is a bit rough.

Ruudi_Mentari

Wrap him up in cotton candy!

I don't even see a dinner anymore; so fcuk im

Jonny Blaze

He should move to Dubai...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23373186

be minted!

jimgoose

Fat people should be euthanised, processed into mincemeat and given out to people on the dole according to a strict stamp/rationing system. You too can reprocess your way to a New World Order. :cool:

Hownowcow

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one fat b******.

My name is URL

Bit of a scary precedent to set.. deporting people because 'they may' be a strain on taxpayers in years to come.

KTRIC

Go be fat somewhere else :rolleyes:

jimgoose

My name is URL wrote: »

Bit of a scary precedent to set.. deporting people because 'they may' be a strain on taxpayers in years to come.

Logan's Bun??

who the fug

I thought this thread was going to be about that dublin guy in cork, now that is obese

MagicMarker

I assume they'll be deporting all smokers on temporary visas also?

I feel sorry for the guy, especially as he weighed more when granted the visa in the first place.

Stupid decision, supported only by stupid people.

Femme_Fatale

who the fug wrote: »

I thought this thread was going to be about that dublin guy in cork, now that is obese

Yeh this guy's half that fella's size. Now I know 20 stone is obviously very unhealthily overweight, but I was expecting to read about a much heavier man... which isn't a good thing I suppose. The bar has been raised quite a bit.
But there must surely be lots of foreign nationals in NZ who are 20 stone - why the focus on just this guy...

Pang

I think it's very proactive of New Zealand's authorities. Why should they take in obese people from other countries who will only cost them more money in the long term?

More countries need to be taking a proactive approach to dealing with the obesity epidemic. Every year, it is going to get more costly dealing with the increase in NID diabetes, CHD etc...

UCDVet

It's a very slippery slope....

Obesity is largely preventable.
But so are a lot of illnesses.

It's a tiny, tiny percentage of people who follow all of the recommended medical advice. Did everyone here get their daily cardio in? How about your sodium intake? And your veggies?

What about dangerous activities?

It's a shame you were in that car accident - but our records show you drive *a lot*. Surely, you can't expect the tax payers to subsidize your reckless lifestyle. Driving is dangerous, sooner or later, you will crash.

Private insurance companies, IMHO, should be able to measure risk and determine different coverage levels. But the whole point of government funded insurance is to provide coverage for everyone. ESPECIALLY the people who couldn't get it otherwise.

It'd be cheaper if we only gave medical treatment to people who were unlikely to need it. But what's the point?

who the fug

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Yeh this guy's half that fella's size. Now I know 20 stone is obviously very unhealthily overweight, but I was expecting to read about a much heavier man... which isn't a good thing I suppose. The bar has been raised quite a bit.
But there must surely be lots of foreign nationals in NZ who are 20 stone - why the focus on just this guy...

I went up to 18/19 stone it was very uncomfortable managed to shed 4 stone remaining 2 are a bastard to shift , but the Kiwis are worried about their medical bills so i can see their point

mfceiling

Hootanany wrote: »

Some Dump.

You've been?

mikemac1

Never trust a skinny chef
This guy is ok by me

justforlaugh

bodice ripper wrote: »

I'd rather be fat than in New Zealand.

What wrong with New Zealand

who the fug

justforlaugh wrote: »

What wrong with New Zealand

as me cousin keeps tellling me

Nothing if you Ovis aries

end of the road

Clandestine wrote: »

I would like to see something similar occur in Ireland.

if their here legally then put up and shut up, if their illegal they will eventually be deported not because of their weight but because they have failed the asylum process

Clandestine wrote: »

fat acceptance movements should be discouraged

fat acceptance movements? tell me more? or are they just a figment of your imagination? and here was i thinking it was just the simple mind your own business and get on with your life?

bodice ripper

justforlaugh wrote: »

What wrong with New Zealand

Other side of the planet. The raw effort of getting there, and of getting to anywhere else once you have arrived there.

Plus this is an absolutely dick move.

crockholm

They could be losing out on a potential competitive eating world champ(chomp).Fathlethes unite!!

KamiKazeKitten

end of the road wrote: »

fat acceptance movements? tell me more? or are they just a figment of your imagination? and here was i thinking it was just the simple mind your own business and get on with your life?

5 seconds of googling would have shown you there are fat acceptance movements, mostly in the States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_acceptance_movement
http://www.naafaonline.com/dev2/

listermint

So let me get this, its okay for New Zealand to take his tax dollars but its not okay for them to look after him.

Is that what this is saying ??

KamiKazeKitten

listermint wrote: »

So let me get this, its okay for New Zealand to take his tax dollars but its not okay for them to look after him.

Is that what this is saying ??

To look after him if he gets sick, right now he isn't and was losing weight...it's a bit harsh imo.

Shenshen

Are they regularly deporting smokers, diabetics and people who are into extreme sports?
Are they planning on screening new immigrants for hereditary defects and cancer risk?

If not, I do have to ask why...

And fairness aside, I do have to wonder why the NZ government would think it's a wise move to deport someone who is currently in employment, and thereby contributing via his taxes towards the healthcare of NZ citizens?

Ray Palmer

UCDVet wrote: »

It's a very slippery slope....

Obesity is largely preventable.
But so are a lot of illnesses.

It's a tiny, tiny percentage of people who follow all of the recommended medical advice. Did everyone here get their daily cardio in? How about your sodium intake? And your veggies?

Have you any idea of risk assessment? If you are obese your likelihood of becoming ill due to a related illness is massive. It is far higher than that of a smoker etc...

They have set rules on their criteria to obtaining citizenship he doesn't match them. It isn't a slippery slope it just a set rule. They don't have to take people in if they apply. By applying he has put his temporary visa on the line.

This guy highlighted himself. Their country their rules don't match them goodbye. They don't given citizenship in many countries if you have certain medical conditions. Nothing to see here

Cookie_Monster

Shenshen wrote: »

Are they regularly deporting smokers, diabetics and people who are into extreme sports?
Are they planning on screening new immigrants for hereditary defects and cancer risk?

If not, I do have to ask why...

They ask for health & family health history, require TB and cholesterol tests as well as bloodwork and x-rays. I had to go through all that to get a visa and fully agree with it.
He clearly barely scraped through the initial VISA and subsiquent visas and has now failed the conditions of the renewal, probably because his increased age pushes him up into the 'too risky' bracket.

And fairness aside, I do have to wonder why the NZ government would think it's a wise move to deport someone who is currently in employment, and thereby contributing via his taxes towards the healthcare of NZ citizens?

Deport him and employ a kiwi instead, win win for the govt.

end of the road

Ray Palmer wrote: »

They have set rules on their criteria to obtaining citizenship he doesn't match them.

they let him in in the first place, so technically he does, their going back now because it doesn't suit them

Ray Palmer wrote: »

By applying he has put his temporary visa on the line.

ah i see now, they could give him a temporary visa and gladly take his tax money but apply for a full visa and their whinjing and whining and want to deport him because of his weight?

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Their country their rules don't match them goodbye.

not good enough, they let him in the first place and are gladly taking his tax money, so now they should just have to put up and shut up

lertsnim

Clandestine wrote: »

Things like fat acceptance movements should be discouraged

What movements? These exist?

dizzymac

lertsnim wrote: »

What movements? These exist?

They exist. There just tends to not be that much movement.

end of the road

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Deport him and employ a kiwi instead

why would the employer please anyone and do that, he/she/they picked that person for a reason, maybe the employer did interview kiwis for the job but they just weren't what the employer wanted, no employer is going to pick their second best candidate over their prefered candidate because the second candidate happens to be a native

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

win win for the govt.

but not win win for the employer who is creating jobs and thus tax revenue though who will lose the employee they chose for the job, frankly win win for the government should be low down on the list

keano_afc

He's 20 stone. I'm sure there are plenty of prop forwards that are that plus some more. Will they be kicking out the likes of Ben Afeaki who's 21st?