General Web Discussion Thread

miralize

I think this forum needs a place for designers to discuss the web in general. Maybe there isn't any need for this, but sometimes I think some topics shouldn't merit a thread of their own. It might even be a good place to vent

I'll start us off :

Do you think Chrome has declined in overall browsing quality for the past 18 months or so? The introduction of Blink especially has, for me at least, made it very hard to get anything done, with the page hangs & general speed. I know this is v1 of Blink, but still its not to the standard that I expect of the browser. Should Google slow down on releasing updates?

miralize

KonFusion

Anyone planning on heading to Build this year?

miralize

As in the Microsoft one or the one in Belfast?

I've wanted to go, and I'm pretty ashamed I haven't been to a single conference yet. Not exactly the immediate social type though tbh. Maybe, who knows. It might help it my quest to break free from freelancing.

KonFusion

miralize wrote: »

I'm pretty ashamed I haven't been to a single conference yet.

:eek: FOR SHAMEEEE! *hiss* *boo* etc.

You should definitely make time to attend at least one per year . As for being not all that social; it's very, very, hard to attend a conference and not make at least one friend/acquaintance. Unless you really go out of your way to sabotage yourself.

Plus when you're drinking and bowling with Jeremy Keith, it's very hard to not get all giddy.

miralize

KonFusion wrote: »

:eek: FOR SHAMEEEE! *hiss* *boo* etc.

You should definitely make time to attend at least one per year . As for being not all that social; it's very, very, hard to attend a conference and not make at least one friend/acquaintance. Unless you really go out of your way to sabotage yourself.

I may have been known for that :P

Yeah I might do, bit of a trek to belfast without a car though.

miralize

Is that not the best graphic design job you've ever seen?

Graham

I'm no designer but I still think people should have to pass a test or get a license before they're permitted to operate Photoshop without qualified supervision.

miralize

Graham wrote: »

I'm no designer but I still think people should have to pass a test or get a license before they're permitted to operate Photoshop without qualified supervision.

You can see the word art, has to be using Publisher 2003 I'd reckon.

miralize

Bebo is coming back! I missed Birch

KonFusion

Some pretty, flat, gifs http://bisouslescopains.tumblr.com/

miralize

KonFusion wrote: »

Some pretty, flat, gifs http://bisouslescopains.tumblr.com/

How soon before someone converts them to CSS3. I'd guess by Saturday.

KonFusion

miralize wrote: »

How soon before someone converts them to CSS3. I'd guess by Saturday.

Do you follow @donovanh on le twitters? He blogs over at hop.ie with some really sweet CSS.

His Portal css demo was super cool.

miralize

KonFusion wrote: »

Do you follow @donovanh on le twitters? He blogs over at hop.ie with some really sweet CSS.

His Portal css demo was super cool.

Yeah he has some good stuff.

KonFusion

Any Chrome error messages or bugs that drive you mad?

Let them know: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17DguWRQgMdKtSjXYb8vJJKSY-WO92gHIsWd3FAfOhh0/viewform

miralize

This *expletive*-ing thing.

Blocked a frame with origin "facebook/youtube/vine url" from accessing a frame with origin.

miralize

Painting A Social Portrait
http://www.teehanlax.com/story/social-portrait/

Great insight into the agency and the issues that arose during a fairly big project

smash

Serious Chrome & Firefox flaw: chrome://settings/passwords Just click on the stars and press 'show'. In Firefox it's Preferences > saved passwords > show passwords. This works on any platform from desktop to mobile.

miralize

smash wrote: »

Serious Chrome & Firefox flaw: chrome://settings/passwords Just click on the stars and press 'show'. In Firefox it's Preferences > saved passwords > show passwords. This works on any platform from desktop to mobile.

Especially when using something like Keychain and have Chrome make that absolutely useless via an import.

lil_lisa

I think this tutorial is very cool. Awesome idea for a menu.

KonFusion

Shoptalk is live

http://shoptalkshow.com/live/

KonFusion

At an SEO meetup.

Jesus christ SEO people, you old!

I know they said that the SEO industry is dying, but I didn't know that was because the people working in it were :pac:



(An attempt at a humorous poke at SEO folks. No offence intended.)

miralize

SEO optimization is losing its irrelevance pretty quickly imo. It's mostly due to common sense and improved search algorithms.


Anyone else using Bourbon Neat? I wan't to like it, but its very confusing.

KonFusion

miralize wrote: »

SEO optimization is losing its irrelevance pretty quickly imo. It's mostly due to common sense and improved search algorithms.

Absolutely. Though I wouldn't say losing it's irrelevance per say. Rather that it's completely transforming into something completely different.

Anyone else using Bourbon Neat? I wan't to like it, but its very confusing.

Grid system? Nay. I'm a Gridset & Compass man.

miralize

Mike Monteiro gives the best advice

How Designers Destroyed the World
https://vimeo.com/68470326

_ciaran_

Anyone heading to build this year?

Still tickets available, the student discount is pretty generous too.

peejay1986

_ciaran_ wrote: »

Anyone heading to build this year?

Still tickets available, the student discount is pretty generous too.

Would love to go (said I would definitely go this year!) but the tickets always come out at the worst time for me. Saving for a holiday now and have Christmas in mind also, can't fork out almost £400 for it, despite how good it'd be.

selvin

I really good to link this forum site.
It's to get good information and details for designer and developers.
according to me.....

KonFusion

Kanye vs Creative Director

http://kanyevscreative.com/

KonFusion

http://www.webshibe.com/

bazkennedy

http://mother****ingwebsite.com/

lil_lisa

This is pretty cool: http://middle-earth.thehobbit.com/thranduils-hall

KonFusion

lil_lisa wrote: »

This is pretty cool: http://middle-earth.thehobbit.com/thranduils-hall

That is so frickin cool!!

KonFusion

Just got unexpectedly paid (via cheque in post) for a job I did 3 years ago....


What a nice, unexpected, Christmas surprise

miralize

tricky D

Doing some work for a start up.

'Good that you are doing this properly ie. paying properly for the work as opposed to offering equity.'

'You can have equity if you want , you'll just have to invest like the rest of us shareholders.'

Knowing smiles all around.:)

KonFusion

http://whatthe****ismywearablestrategy.com/ :pac:

Link messed up by swear filter, so use http://goo.gl/NJkIBM

Graham

A great blog post 'Why Designers Leave'

https://medium.com/the-year-of-the-looking-glass/d0aa3b8af9b7

I'm sure many designers here have come across their own clients capybara before.

miralize

Gulp is so handy. So easy to get started too, compared to grunt at least. If you do try it, use browser-sync. It is crazy powerful.

I'm also liking Craft CMS, rebuilding my site with it at the moment. Fairly expensive to get some extensibility but I think it might be worth it (for me at least).

Beekay

Only getting into Web design. What does gulp do?

miralize

It's hard to put into words what a task-runner can do, because it can do a lot.

But for example, if you use SASS it can compile it to CSS, add all the browser prefixes to selectors (-moz, -webkit), minify it, all whenever you save the sass file.

It can compress images to a small size, concatenate Javascript files so that you have as few HTTP requests as possible, check thew Javascript for syntax errors, reload the browser whenever it detects a file change etc...

Browser-sync is actually indispensable for me now, and I've only used it for a few hours. For multi-device testing it can sync actions across devices, whether that is scrolling, clicking a link which will load that URL for all browsers that is running the site, refreshing the html or injecting newly created css.

Its actually pretty crazy. Also, hugely overwhelming at first I'm not going to lie (Grunt was way worse though).If you want a nice intro, have a read of this.

http://markgoodyear.com/2014/01/getting-started-with-gulp/

KonFusion

Browser sync? Do you mean live reload with gulp or the stand alone browaer sync app?

If the latter, link plz

miralize

No it's with Gulp. Powerful. Works with grunt though https://github.com/shakyShane/browser-sync

tricky D

Not sure if this is best for this thread but here's a mini rant:

Last night I was told I am a spoofer and that my almost 20 years of involvement in many and various web sites/ops is worthless and means I should not get employment in the industry, as I do not have any pieces of paper, just a mere shedload of experience. This was from a person who did a degree (404 not found) in Web Accessibility, no less, and which has a Fetac level that goes up to, wait for it, 11! and who has not even produced a single website outside of the classroom. Oh and as a bonus titbit, there's no situation where an alt attribute should have an empty, blank or null value (whatever you want to call it).

I have truly been found out, told off and put in my place.:rolleyes::rolleyes::pac:

Banta

I liked that rant for the Spinal Tap reference alone.

"who has not even produced a single website outside of the classroom" - it's this bit where everything comes together. Just simply regurgitating everything they've recently heard in a lecture or read in a book. So based on what you do compared to what the books say, you're wrong.

My guess is though that this kind of thing is the same for every industry. It's like the rant in the bar in "Good Will Hunting" where he says next year you'll be telling me that you now believe this because blah blah blah.


In keeping with the thread, I've recently started using the "Redux Framework" with WordPress. Was recommended to me by a friend. I have to say, it's pretty damn good based on what I've learned in the little time I've had to look at it.
http://reduxframework.com/
Here's a link to the plugin page on WP. Bit easier to learn about from this page, I think anyway: http://wordpress.org/plugins/redux-framework/

miralize

Anyone else using Sketch? I think I've become too reliant on Photoshop & definitely have more than a few bad habits as a result of it. Sketch is fantastic so far, only used it this weekend.


Bit iffy with the type alignment tools, but besides that I think it may be where I make mockups from now on.

miralize

Not a proponent of pixel perfection, but a free ebook is a free ebook...

http://ustwo.com/ppp/

KonFusion

miralize wrote: »

Not a proponent of pixel perfection, but a free ebook is a free ebook...

http://ustwo.com/ppp/

Have you had a read? It's very meh imo. Looks pretty, but it's very basic. The only value I could see in it is if you had a new staff member, and TBH what's outlined in the book is so standard I'd be surprised they got hired without knowing it in the first place.

Might be handy for students/interns/juniors I guess.

Screams a bit of usTwo having too much time and money, which I guess is appropriate, considering those are also the traits of pixel perfection :pac:

miralize

KonFusion wrote: »

Have you had a read? It's very meh imo. Looks pretty, but it's very basic. The only value I could see in it is if you had a new staff member, and TBH what's outlined in the book is so standard I'd be surprised they got hired without knowing it in the first place.

Might be handy for students/interns/juniors I guess.

Screams a bit of usTwo having too much time and money, which I guess is appropriate, considering those are also the traits of pixel perfection :pac:

It is, but again, its free! Handy for a quick read through, can never drill the fundamentals in enough.

tramoreman

was doing a bit of research and came across a few websites that were designed on the left hand side where i know websites should be designed in the centre.

miralize

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http://cash4websites.co.uk/