DGW confirmed for week 1

Hogey007

what chelsea, even vila players are people going with now?

and how does it effect people's stategies?

are you now building a team for the first couple of gameweeks and wildcarding when chelsea miss their game?

almighty1

Hogey007 wrote: »

what chelsea, even vila players are people going with now?

DGW?

Edit : Ah Double Game Week

Hogey007

almighty1 wrote: »

DGW?

double game week, chelsea and villa game confirmed for the wednesday so both of those clubs play twice.

Premier League ‏@premierleague 15m FIXTURE CHANGE Chelsea v Aston Villa will now take place on Wednesday August 21 at 1945 BST. #CHEAVL

almighty1

Hogey007 wrote: »

double game week, chelsea and villa game confirmed for the wednesday so both of those clubs play twice.

Premier League ‏@premierleague 15m FIXTURE CHANGE Chelsea v Aston Villa will now take place on Wednesday August 21 at 1945 BST. #CHEAVL

And then neither have a game on GW 3

I wonder who Mourinho will start up front.

Mr.Prodston

I'd be thinking Lukaku is worth a punt at 8.0 at this stage of the window anyway. Especially if Torres has the international game for Spain just before

Hogey007

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I'd be thinking Lukaku is worth a punt at 8.0 at this stage of the window anyway. Especially if Torres has the international game for Spain just before

yeah he'd be worth a shout alright if Chelsea haven't signed rooney, or anyone else by that stage.

didn't realise villa had arsenal away in the first game, about as tough as a dgw gets, wouldn't even consider any of their players because it'd just leave too much work to be done to get a team for gw 3,

so it won't alter my team too much as things stand, I had terry anyway, I said if Chelsea had a dgw i'd put in hazard for Walcott.

the 3rd spot is up for grabs though, will be keeping an eye on schurle, I could put him in for mirallas by freeing up .5 or could put lampard into that slot either. or if the striker spot becomes clearer I may look at that.

Iused2likebusts

Alters my plans I will now pick a team for the first 3 gws and wildcard for GW4.

OneColdHand

Hogey007 wrote: »

yeah he'd be worth a shout alright if Chelsea haven't signed rooney, or anyone else by that stage.

didn't realise villa had arsenal away in the first game, about as tough as a dgw gets, wouldn't even consider any of their players because it'd just leave too much work to be done to get a team for gw 3,

so it won't alter my team too much as things stand, I had terry anyway, I said if Chelsea had a dgw i'd put in hazard for Walcott.

the 3rd spot is up for grabs though, will be keeping an eye on schurle, I could put him in for mirallas by freeing up .5 or could put lampard into that slot either. or if the striker spot becomes clearer I may look at that.

I 'll definately have Terry and Hazard also.

Other spot is up for grabs. I'm considering Benteke, he's capable of scoring against anyone, and will definately play twice, unlike a lot of the attacking Chelsea players.

Hogey007

OneColdHand wrote: »

I 'll definately have Terry and Hazard also.

Other spot is up for grabs. I'm considering Benteke, he's capable of scoring against anyone, and will definately play twice, unlike a lot of the attacking Chelsea players.

not a bad shout actually. for arguments sake we'll say Chelsea's strikers are as they are now, torres isn't an option because he'll miss the first match with the spain friendly, so lukaku or ba (or both might start) but then you'd expect he'd start torres for the second game given that he's had a few days rest and the other 2 might be benched.

whereas, as you say, benteke will play 180 minutes.

OneColdHand

Hogey007 wrote: »

not a bad shout actually. for arguments sake we'll say Chelsea's strikers are as they are now, torres isn't an option because he'll miss the first match with the spain friendly, so lukaku or ba (or both might start) but then you'd expect he'd start torres for the second game given that he's had a few days rest and the other 2 might be benched.

whereas, as you say, benteke will play 180 minutes.

Exactly. And, actually, if you have Anelka/Rodriguez/anyone around that price, Wiemann might be a good shout, for the first week or two. He's 6.0, should play most of both games, and is also capable of scoring against the big boys (scored twice against United last season, and against Liverpool).

Paully D

Probably going to go with Terry and Hazard (C). No definite idea how Chelsea will line up but with Azpilucueta off to the other side of the word for the a friendly a few days before hand, I think it's even more certain that Jose will pick Terry. My guess would be:

Ivanovic - Terry - Luiz - Cole

It does leave a bit of dilemma though. Gameweek 2 sees Chelsea away to Manchester United and then they have no game in week 3, so a balance needs to be struck.

Santi101

Ramires might be a decent option as 4th mid if you have 6.5m spare.....he's no Lampard but can notch a few goals over the season and I'd say Mourinho will always use him.

I'm going with Hazard for sure.

Terry seems to be a key player again so might be an option. Benteke is the obvious choice for Villa, wouldnt be keen on many others for them as you'd expect 2 defeats in those games.

OneColdHand

Paully D wrote: »

Probably going to go with Terry and Hazard (C). No definite idea how Chelsea will line up but with Azpilucueta off to the other side of the word for the a friendly a few days before hand, I think it's even more certain that Jose will pick Terry. My guess would be:

Ivanovic - Terry - Luiz - Cole

It does leave a bit of dilemma though. Gameweek 2 sees Chelsea away to Manchester United and then they have no game in week 3, so a balance needs to be struck.

Yeah this is my problem, I don't want to be starting off the season, knowing I have players to get out of my team. I'm htinking Terry and Hazard, as you say, and then switch Hazard for Walcott.

Who_8_Paul?

I'm sure a few will agree that this DGW is actually a pain in the backside; unwanted juggling needed at the very start; if it wasn't for this I'd have 1 Chelsea player and 0 Villa players but now I'll have at least 2 Chelsea and possibly Benteke to start; lends itself to early wildcarding

F1ngers

Who_8_Paul? wrote: »

I'm sure a few will agree that this DGW is actually a pain in the backside; unwanted juggling needed at the very start; if it wasn't for this I'd have 1 Chelsea player and 0 Villa players but now I'll have at least 2 Chelsea and possibly Benteke to start; lends itself to early wildcarding

Is it even worth picking a Villa striker? - Can't imagine them being too much of a threat away to Arsenal and Chelsea.

T-b0n3

Had Terry & Hazard anyway, but the question is do I go for a third now too?

Lukaku? Lampard/Oscar/Schurrle maybe?

Suppose we'll have to monitor pre-season and see who's likely to play/score points.

Phoenix Park

It's a shame there's a DGW involving Chelsea but we have to accept it. Going with 2 or less Chelsea players is madness. Every point counts, and with two fairly easy fixtures you need to load up.

I'll be starting without RVP because of this. Not much choice really! Will take Luiz (or Ivanovic if we sense doubts about Luiz's game time), Hazard (C) and Lukaku.

If it wasn't for this DGW, considering Chelsea's fixtures and prices i'd have none of them with the possibly exception of Hazard, who is still the "correct" price so i'm not overly fussed about him. Lukaku and Luiz will certainly be gone by week 4 to allow for Van Persie.

Hogey007

Phoenix Park wrote: »

It's a shame there's a DGW involving Chelsea but we have to accept it. Going with 2 or less Chelsea players is madness. Every point counts, and with two fairly easy fixtures you need to load up.

I'll be starting without RVP because of this. Not much choice really! Will take Luiz (or Ivanovic if we sense doubts about Luiz's game time), Hazard (C) and Lukaku.

If it wasn't for this DGW, considering Chelsea's fixtures and prices i'd have none of them with the possibly exception of Hazard, who is still the "correct" price so i'm not overly fussed about him. Lukaku and Luiz will certainly be gone by week 4 to allow for Van Persie.

I think going with less than 2 would be mad but maybe 2 is the right number? i'm going with terry and hazard, no one else jumping out at me yet and if you go with 3 you then have 3 Chelsea players away to united gw 2 and no game gw 3.
Leaves your hands tied for tranfers early on, sometimes it's important to have that free transfer early on, I know last season, as soon as I seen match of the day I had to get michu in. I don't particulary want to "have" to be using them on getting rid of Chelsea players.
if mata had been playing both I probably would have doubled up on him and hazard in midfield but will lampard play 2 games in short space of time? especially if he's selected for England the previous week. as things stand, I couldn't say for definite that there's anther Chelsea midfield/forward that I think wil start both.
Another option I suppose is to double up on the back have cech and terry, have the Cardiff keeper as my second goalie so that when cech doesn't play he can come in (at home to everton) and I can then fix up both keepers when I wildcard. but not sure I can find an extra 1.0 to upgrade mignolet to cech.
it may all sort itself out by then anyway, if rooney signs for Chelsea it'll be a simple case of terry, hazard and rooney.

Who_8_Paul?

For those planning on having Hart as their goalie, I think a better tactic now is obviously to have Cech for GW1, then do Cech to Hart

Hogey007

Who_8_Paul? wrote: »

For those planning on having Hart as their goalie, I think a better tactic now is obviously to have Cech for GW1, then do Cech to Hart

yeah and just make sure your second goalie plays, just incase you need your transfers for something else before gw 3.
the Cardiff keeper is only 4.5 or Norwich have a nice fixture in gw 3 (Southampton at home), you could get ruddy for 5.0

manual_man

can anyone tell me if fat Frank has been playing pre-season?

iMuse

manual_man wrote: »

can anyone tell me if fat Frank has been playing pre-season?

Hes been injured with an Achilles problem

manual_man

wish there was no dgw gw1 tbh, not sure what to do, but looking forward to seeing people fall flat on their ass in the weeks after, after stocking up on too many dgw players

mectavba

Villa have a very tough start to the season and will most likely concede, so I don't think there is any point bringing players in especially.

Although, if you wanted to bring in one cheap player to have a go it would be Weimann. Pretty certain to start both matches and if Villa score there is a good chance he will get an assist or score.

Iused2likebusts

Hogey007 wrote: »

Another option I suppose is to double up on the back have cech and terry, have the Cardiff keeper as my second goalie so that when cech doesn't play he can come in (at home to everton) and I can then fix up both keepers when I wildcard. but not sure I can find an extra 1.0 to upgrade mignolet to cech.
it may all sort itself out by then anyway, if rooney signs for Chelsea it'll be a simple case of terry, hazard and rooney.

Just logged to post the exact same thing about cech. If your going with 3 chelsea players he really should be one as it will have less effect on you come gameweek 3. Im looking at cech, hazard and one from cole, ramires or lukaku. As you say you need your second goalie to be playing boruc 4.5 at southampton is a decent shout they have gw 2 sunderland H gw 3 norwich A. Probably going to have to ditch my plan to go with both rvp and bale now. What are you thinking ?

Hogey007

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Just logged to post the exact same thing about cech. If your going with 3 chelsea players he really should be one as it will have less effect on you come gameweek 3. Im looking at cech, hazard and one from cole, ramires or lukaku. As you say you need your second goalie to be playing boruc 4.5 at southampton is a decent shout they have gw 2 sunderland H gw 3 norwich A. Probably going to have to ditch my plan to go with both rvp and bale now. What are you thinking ?

I'm still looking at both RVP and Bale,
i'm going to put hazard in for walcott and switch back to walcott for gw 2.
i had terry in to begin with so that's ok. if i go with the plan to start cech i'll need to trim 1.0 mil from my strikers. i could do that by putting anelka in for bent.
if rooney goes to chelsea i might rethink having RVP but for now my team looks like this

GK
Cech
Boruc (yeah good shout, has better games than the cardiff keeper)

DEF
Terry
Coleman
M.Turner
Collins
Turner (cardiff)

MID
Hazard
Bale
Mirallas
Brady
Morrison

FWD
RVP
van wolfswinkel (might review that if hooper signs)
Anelka

there's a couple of things i can do to change it, will try get toure in for collins now that i don't have mignolet, if gary hooper comes in for 6.0 or 6.5 i might put him in for RVW.


edit: my two strikers other than RVP look a bit weak, it looked stronger with Bent, those other 2 striker spots are up for grabs, might put bent back in if he signs for fulham or newcastle

Iused2likebusts

Hogey007 wrote: »

I'm still looking at both RVP and Bale,
i'm going to put hazard in for walcott and switch back to walcott for gw 2.
i had terry in to begin with so that's ok. if i go with the plan to start cech i'll need to trim 1.0 mil from my strikers. i could do that by putting anelka in for bent.
if rooney goes to chelsea i might rethink having RVP but for now my team looks like this

GK
Cech
Boruc (yeah good shout, has better games than the cardiff keeper)

DEF
Terry
Coleman
M.Turner
Collins
Turner (cardiff)

MID
Hazard
Bale
Mirallas
Brady
Morrison

FWD
RVP
van wolfswinkel (might review that if hooper signs)
Anelka

there's a couple of things i can do to change it, will try get toure in for collins now that i don't have mignolet, if gary hooper comes in for 6.0 or 6.5 i might put him in for RVW.

That looks decent. Im debating going without bale for GW1 and keeping walcott in and then transferring Hazard out for Bale for GW 2. Id be keeping back 2.5 to avoid taking a points hit. Now I know people will say madness to be without bale but Im not going to captain him and nobody worth their salt will. It means I can play walcott and rvp who I feel have as much chance of getting a big points haul in gw1 as bale. Then I'll have bale captain like everyone else for GW2.

Hogey007

Hogey007 wrote: »

I'm still looking at both RVP and Bale,
i'm going to put hazard in for walcott and switch back to walcott for gw 2.
i had terry in to begin with so that's ok. if i go with the plan to start cech i'll need to trim 1.0 mil from my strikers. i could do that by putting anelka in for bent.
if rooney goes to chelsea i might rethink having RVP but for now my team looks like this

GK
Cech
Boruc (yeah good shout, has better games than the cardiff keeper)

DEF
Terry
Coleman
M.Turner
Collins
Turner (cardiff)

MID
Hazard
Bale
Mirallas
Brady
Morrison

FWD
RVP
van wolfswinkel (might review that if hooper signs)
Anelka

there's a couple of things i can do to change it, will try get toure in for collins now that i don't have mignolet, if gary hooper comes in for 6.0 or 6.5 i might put him in for RVW.


edit: my two strikers other than RVP look a bit weak, it looked stronger with Bent, those other 2 striker spots are up for grabs, might put bent back in if he signs for fulham or newcastle

i don't actually like the look of that team, i was happier with my other team. cech actually costs me an extra 1.5 because with mignolet i had put in a 4.0 keeper because i think mignolet will play every game bar injury. i can't really risk anelka when i already have a risky 5th mid. i'll go back to mignolet and darren bent i think, leaves me with .5 in the bank too to upgade my defence a little.

Hogey007

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

That looks decent. Im debating going without bale for GW1 and keeping walcott in and then transferring Hazard out for Bale for GW 2. Id be keeping back 2.5 to avoid taking a points hit. Now I know people will say madness to be without bale but Im not going to captain him and nobody worth their salt will. It means I can play walcott and rvp who I feel have as much chance of getting a big points haul in gw1 as bale. Then I'll have bale captain like everyone else for GW2.

well it kills 2 birds with 1 stone in that you're getting rid of a chelsea player after the dgw and getting bale back in, as you say, it's not a massive risk when you keep the funds there to do it in one transfer. walcott at home to villa is probably in terms of odds likely to score more than bale. i had replied to my own post already saying i didn't really like the look of my team now, leaves too many risks, mignolet has great fixtures so i'm not going to get drawn into upsetting my team too much to get cech in. sounded good but when i seen my team on paper i didn't like the look of it.

Iused2likebusts

Hogey007 wrote: »

i don't actually like the look of that team, i was happier with my other team. cech actually costs me an extra 1.5 because with mignolet i had put in a 4.0 keeper because i think mignolet will play every game bar injury. i can't really risk anelka when i already have a risky 5th mid. i'll go back to mignolet and darren bent i think, leaves me with .5 in the bank too to upgade my defence a little.

Probably makes sense. I really want Darren bent to get a move. Think he would be a snip at 6.5 especially with him trying to get in the world cup squad.

manual_man

Ah feck it. Damn this double gameweek!!!

out: Kagawa, Kone, Snodgrass in: Lampard, Lukaku, Boyd

Tremmel
Jenkinson Enrique Collins
Bale Coutinho Walcott Lampard
Lukaku Rodriguez Negredo

subs: Robles, Boyd, Ollsson, (Ben) Turner

Mr.Prodston

Chelsea have a massive squad and with United the opposition on the second weekend there will be an immense amount of rotation as players will still be slightly unfit and I don't think 3 games in 7 days in the first week of the season can be good for them. Cech is probably the only safe choice. With Mata coming back in for the wednesday I could see Hazard only picking up 20 minutes against Villa.

Bertrand could easily start one of the games over Cole too. At this moment in time I'd like to think I'll only pick 2 Chelsea players at most, and not touch Villa unless I have Baker, who wouldn't play bar an unfortunate turn of events. Of course as GW1 looms and everyone else forms their plans of Terry, Hazard, Lukaku (and Rooney) from Chelsea and Bentekkers and Lowton from Villa I may crumble but for now I'll try and set myself up with the longer run and pray they both finish 1-1 each with Hazard scoring both.

Fizman

When are Chelsea and Villa expected to miss out on a GW?

Paully D

Fizman wrote: »

When are Chelsea and Villa expected to miss out on a GW?

Gameweek 3, confirmed.

Hogey007

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Probably makes sense. I really want Darren bent to get a move. Think he would be a snip at 6.5 especially with him trying to get in the world cup squad.

yeah hopefully he gets the move, he kind of has to really, he's wasting away at villa. I'm not as happy with my team as i was but i think it'll sort itself over the coming weeks, you would think spurs, chelsea and arsenal all still have to sign strikers, sturridge could prove to be fit, and i'd also be curious to see what price hooper comes in at, if it was 6.0 or 6.5 he could come in, i'd rather him than RVW who is a complete unknown to me, having said that, i'm not entirely sure i want a norwich striker.
and as i said in the thread for picking a team for the first 3 gw's, lampard is joining up with the team monday, if he's looking likely to play 120 minutes or so in the dgw i might put him in for mirallas and then kone for rvw, that would give a much more balanced look to my team.

manual_man

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Chelsea have a massive squad and with United the opposition on the second weekend there will be an immense amount of rotation as players will still be slightly unfit and I don't think 3 games in 7 days in the first week of the season can be good for them. Cech is probably the only safe choice. With Mata coming back in for the wednesday I could see Hazard only picking up 20 minutes against Villa.

Bertrand could easily start one of the games over Cole too. At this moment in time I'd like to think I'll only pick 2 Chelsea players at most, and not touch Villa unless I have Baker, who wouldn't play bar an unfortunate turn of events. Of course as GW1 looms and everyone else forms their plans of Terry, Hazard, Lukaku (and Rooney) from Chelsea and Bentekkers and Lowton from Villa I may crumble but for now I'll try and set myself up with the longer run and pray they both finish 1-1 each with Hazard scoring both.

d'you know what, you're absolutely right. i'm just going with Lukaku (if it looks like he'll start). too much hassle, too much risk of rotation as you rightly pointed out, and the trouble of getting my team back to the way i want it afterward

Iused2likebusts

Hogey007 wrote: »

yeah hopefully he gets the move, he kind of has to really, he's wasting away at villa. I'm not as happy with my team as i was but i think it'll sort itself over the coming weeks, you would think spurs, chelsea and arsenal all still have to sign strikers, sturridge could prove to be fit, and i'd also be curious to see what price hooper comes in at, if it was 6.0 or 6.5 he could come in, i'd rather him than RVW who is a complete unknown to me, having said that, i'm not entirely sure i want a norwich striker.
and as i said in the thread for picking a team for the first 3 gw's, lampard is joining up with the team monday, if he's looking likely to play 120 minutes or so in the dgw i might put him in for mirallas and then kone for rvw, that would give a much more balanced look to my team.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-manager-jose-mourinho-reveals-he-will-use-frank-lampard-more-sparingly-this-season-8730910.html
Quotes from mourinho on lampard . I'd imagine he wont start the villa game as they will keep him for the united game. I'd say 120 mins at best.

Copper_pipe

TO

Hogey007

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-manager-jose-mourinho-reveals-he-will-use-frank-lampard-more-sparingly-this-season-8730910.html
Quotes from mourinho on lampard . I'd imagine he wont start the villa game as they will keep him for the united game. I'd say 120 mins at best.

cheers for the link. yeah it would seem unlikely he'd start against villa, he can't do 3 games in a week, throw into the mix an england friendly the previous midweek that he may or may not be involved in and i think 120 mins is maximum. but still might consider him if there's no-one else jumping out as nailed on for 2 starts, lampard on penalties could score quite well in 120 minutes at home to hull and villa.

MagicIRL

This is how I'm lining up for the DGW. Personally, with Villa playing both Arsenal and Chelsea in their DGW, I don't think any player, even Benteke, is worth a punt. When we consider how good the Arsenal defence was last season, and just how dominating the Chelsea midfield is, I don't think Villa stand a chance.

As for Chelsea, Hazard is a must. With the Spain international calling away Mata and others, Hazard is ideal. Up front, I'm going with Lukaku. After his season last year, and the sensational performance he gave in the final game against United, I think José would be mad not to start him.

And so I'm lining up like this.

Mignolet (LIV - 5.5m)

Coleman (EVE - 5.0m) - Meresacker (ARS - 5.5m) - Nastasic (CITY - 5.5m) - Connolly (CAR - 4.5m)

Hazard (CHEL - 9.5m CPT) - Bale (SPURS - 12m VCPT) - Walcott (ARS - 9.5m)

Anelka (WBA - 5.5m) - Negredo (CITY - 9.5m) - Lukaku (CHEL - 8m)

Now, the benefit of this is that it doesn't really need a big restructure after the DGW, meaning you can keep your wildcard. Lukaku can even be dropped in GW2 for RVW (NOR - 7m) if he fails to impress in his opening games or simply when Chelsea have a week off in GW3.

manual_man

what are your sub players. you have a bit too much cash tied up in gk/defenders i.m.o.

MagicIRL

manual_man wrote: »

what are your sub players. you have a bit too much cash tied up in gk/defenders i.m.o.

Koren (HULL - 5m), Zaha (UTD - 6.5m) and Baker (AVL - 4m)

manual_man

MagicIRL wrote: »

Koren (HULL - 5m), Zaha (UTD - 6.5m) and Baker (AVL - 4m)

Whatever you feel best with, but personally i'd try get a 4th big mid in there, theres far too much value in the 8-10m range, maybe downgrade someone in defense to allow you upgrade from zaha

Henwin

hi how come nobody is considering ashley cole, is he not in line to start. I hav him in my team.

manual_man

Henwin wrote: »

hi how come nobody is considering ashley cole, is he not in line to start. I hav him in my team.

I imagine he's the safest option (with Cech) to start both games. seemed to be getting forward a bit more too late on last season

Fowler87

Haha not gonna get caught out this year. More or less scuppered my chances in my leagues last year by not stocking up Chelsea players even after week 1!

Posada

Hazard only. To be replaced by Walcott immediately - as others have pointed out.

The rest of the Chelsea team is too unpredictable.

Mr.Prodston

Henwin wrote: »

hi how come nobody is considering ashley cole, is he not in line to start. I hav him in my team.

As I said above I could see Ryan Bertand getting one of the first 2 games as United are up 3rd on the Sunday. Cole's 32 pushing 33. 3 games in a week when you have an option like Bertrand in reserve.

All I'm saying is that nobody should complain if they load up on Chelsea players and they only start 1 match each.

Iused2likebusts

hat trick for benteke tonight

OneColdHand

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

hat trick for benteke tonight

And one for Weimann;)

Already have Hazard, had a good draft made with Lukaku and Ramires depending on who I want to drop between Aguero and RVP while keeping the money to switch back after the first or 2nd week.