Wonder bras, make up and high heels.

Das Kissen

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

The Backwards Man

I often use a combination of the three to deceive a potential mate.

RachaelVO

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

Do you wear wonder bras often...

Dave0301

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

No more deceitful than clowns and their big shoes.

Fecking clowns!

Kintarō Hattori

Ehhh I think you might be looking a little too deeply into this. Things are not always as they seem- with most things in life, so if someone blindly believes what they see then I'd suspect that person of being a little naive/immature.

I can vaguely see what you mean about make-up and wonderbras...... but high heels? C'mon, that's just nuts.

I don't take people on face value and while it's not uncommon to see a heavily made-up lady it is possible to look past that. As I said, you need not to take everything at face value. Judge people on their personality, actions...... not what they look like.

Mr Benevolent

OP you're confusing the words 'deceive' and 'enhance'. You also sound like you've never been near a woman.

Frosty McSnowballs

Ninjas waste hundreds of Euro a year on make up.

Fact!

Banjo String

It is a well known fact that ladies wear make up and perfume for two reasons.


They're ugly. And they smell.

stefan idiot jones

Actually, it's the wonder bra's twentieth birthday this week.

Das Kissen

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Ehhh I think you might be looking a little too deeply into this. Things are not always as they seem- with most things in life, so if someone blindly believes what they see then I'd suspect that person of being a little naive/immature.

I can vaguely see what you mean about make-up and wonderbras...... but high heels? C'mon, that's just nuts.

I don't take people on face value and while it's not uncommon to see a heavily made-up lady it is possible to look past that. As I said, you need not to take everything at face value. Judge people on their personality, actions...... not what they look like.

Why are you talking about judging people. This isn't about judging people. It's a subjective question about the ethics of deceiving a mate. If someone values smooth skin in a mate and are falsely and intentionally led to believe that they a woman has smooth skin that is deception.

Banjo String

Das Kissen wrote: »

Why are you talking about judging people. This isn't about judging people. It's a subjective question about the ethics of deceiving a mate. If someone values smooth skin in a mate and are falsely and intentionally led to believe that they a woman has smooth skin that is deceptive.

it's hardly up there with the crying game tbh.

They take off a wonder bra and high heels?

pardon the pun, but big swinging micky.

Kintarō Hattori

Das Kissen wrote: »

Why are you talking about judging people. This isn't about judging people. It's a subjective question about the ethics of deceiving a mate. If someone values smooth skin in a mate and are falsely and intentionally led to believe that they a woman has smooth skin that is deception.

In the modern 21st century you have to accept that the vast majority of women in Western society will wear or use one or indeed all 3 of the items that you mentioned. It's just a way of life. No-one is setting out to deceive anyone and if that's the way you see it then I'm afraid you are very much so in the minority.

As another person pointed out, these items aren't used to deceive anyone, rather to enhance their appearance and personally I don't see anything wrong with that.
When I met my missus nine years ago the first thought that came into my head wasn't 'Is she wearing a wonderbra?' or 'Hmnn I wonder how much make-up she's wearing?'. It was that she had a nice smile. She looked sweet busying herself in the workplace.

Nine years on and I'm deeply in love with the person that she is, not who she appears to be. When we're out and about I love her to wear heels as when worn with nice clothes it really enhances her natural beauty.

Citycap

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

They are called wonder bras because when they are taken off you wonder where the tits have gone

Das Kissen

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

In the modern 21st century you have to accept that the vast majority of women in Western society will wear or use one or indeed all 3 of the items that you mentioned. It's just a way of life. No-one is setting out to deceive anyone and if that's the way you see it then I'm afraid you are very much so in the minority.

As another person pointed out, these items aren't used to deceive anyone, rather to enhance their appearance and personally I don't see anything wrong with that.
When I met my missus nine years ago the first thought that came into my head wasn't 'Is she wearing a wonderbra?' or 'Hmnn I wonder how much make-up she's wearing?'. It was that she had a nice smile. She looked sweet busying herself in the workplace.

Nine years on and I'm deeply in love with the person that she is, not who she appears to be. When we're out and about I love her to wear heels as when worn with nice clothes it really enhances her natural beauty.

That's a lovely story.

Kintarō Hattori

Das Kissen wrote: »

That's a lovely story.

And no deception involved despite 2 out of your 3 items being worn/used!

gramar

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

Is that you Tootsie?

Legs.Eleven

Deceive has negative connotations to me and suggest the woman is intentionally trying to trick/fool/cheat people and that isn't the case - they just want to look attractive. Big bleedin' deal.

biko

Is this too sexy for my sister?

Crooked Jack

Gimme a beure in an auld pair of gutties, no make up and a baggy slayer t-shirt any day of the week. make up is for clowns, wonder bras only disappoint you eventually and heels are for the bedroom.

Femme_Fatale

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Gimme a beure in an auld pair of gutties, no make up and a baggy slayer t-shirt any day of the week.

... with a really pretty face and great body.

homemadecider

Das Kissen wrote: »

If someone values smooth skin in a mate and are falsely and intentionally led to believe that they a woman has smooth skin that is deception.

You know that adult women are not hairless, right OP? Or have I just shattered your virginal beliefs?!

Pumpkinseeds

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Actually, it's the wonder bra's twentieth birthday this week.

Ah Jesus, now you've made me feel old, I remember them being launched, not long after I'd finished school:(

Captain Chaos

Yeah, women and their false advertising. Should take them to the same claims court. They never look the same the next morning.

jimgoose

Went for kebab and found sausage, did we? Don't worry about it, it happens - have another pint and trot on.

Spunge

If a woman uses these insidious items into fooling an innocent young man into thinking shes highly attractive and performing sex acts on her she should be charged with rape.

justforlaugh

I can understand why a woman would want to wear bras and make up but high heels!!!! Why high heels!

Crooked Jack

justforlaugh wrote: »

I can understand why a woman would want to wear bras and make up but high heels!!!! Why high heels!

This beure i knew from Donegal used to say it was because they were really good for your calves (legs, not the cattle) but i think it was because she was just about nudging five feet without them

justforlaugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGSDxXUiDnc

Femme_Fatale

justforlaugh wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGSDxXUiDnc

Lol. I'd say that's the excessive alcohol though, not just the heels. :pac:

This height is ludicrous (yes I know, some women can manage to wear them).
But this height is pretty manageable.

justforlaugh

http://www.highheelsworld.ca/images/danxie/2-8lan.jpg

I am surprise health and safety haven't banned these heels yet!

Femme_Fatale

justforlaugh wrote: »

http://www.highheelsworld.ca/images/danxie/2-8lan.jpg

I am surprise health and safety haven't banned these heels yet!

Gonna be a lot of ladies with severe foot/knee/hip/back trouble early in life due to them bad-boys. They're agony too - but repeated wearing of them numbs the nerves.

Esoteric_

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Gonna be a lot of ladies with severe foot/knee/hip/back trouble early in life due to them bad-boys. They're agony too - but repeated wearing of them numbs the nerves.

Have a look at a brand called Pleaser, they do some stunning heels, just as high as those, but they're extremely comfortable in comparison to every other brand I've ever tried. Probably because the brand was originally made for strippers, to stop them from being in pain wearing huge heels. :pac:

CommanderC

http://www.pleaserusa.com/ProductDetail.asp?div=1_PLEASER&dpt=10_PF&ctg=70_10_HEEL&STYLE_CD=BEYOND-009&PROD_CD=BEY009%2FB%2FC

A personal fav of mine.

CommanderC

justforlaugh wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGSDxXUiDnc

I think she has spina bifida.....not high heel issues.

starWave

Seems like a lot of men and women have a shoe fetish. Women for buying them and men for looking at them on women

Could never figure out the historic or scientific reason for it. It makes the legs longer, the feet shorter, and the ass sticks out more. But when did some woman decide, I'll prop up my heel so I look taller?

Some heels seem to have a visual effect too, which make the legs even longer. Like if the foot is visible in the shoe, it kinda looks like its part of the leg. I think thats why your typical heel is open at the front.

What's worse than the wonder bra is the chicken fillets. At least with the wonder bra, you don't have to take the padding out and hide it.

CommanderC

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Lol. I'd say that's the excessive alcohol though, not just the heels. :pac:

This height is ludicrous (yes I know, some women can manage to wear them).
But this height is pretty manageable.

That's the f,uckin fugliest pair of shoes I've ever seen.

Esoteric_

starWave wrote: »

Seems like a lot of men and women have a shoe fetish. Women for buying them and men for looking at them on women

Could never figure out the historic or scientific reason for it. It makes the legs longer, the feet shorter, and the ass sticks out more. But when did some woman decide, I'll prop up my heel so I look taller?

Some heels seem to have a visual effect too, which make the legs even longer. Like if the foot is visible in the shoe, it kinda looks like its part of the leg. I think thats why your typical heel is open at the front.

What's worse than the wonder bra is the chicken fillets. At least with the wonder bra, you don't have to take the padding out and hide it.

High heels also make your stomach appear flatter, because you instinctively suck in a bit to help yourself balance better. :pac:

I don't use chicken fillets, and Wonderbras don't come in a big enough cup size to fit me. I feel so disappointed that I've never had one.

Esoteric_

CommanderC wrote: »

That's the f,uckin fugliest pair of shoes I've ever seen.

Wouldn't be my style at all, but they're a pretty standard pair of court heels, pretty handy for work if you're in a job that requires heels as part of their standard dress code.

starWave

Esoteric_ wrote: »

High heels also make your stomach appear flatter, because you instinctively suck in a bit to help yourself balance better. :pac:

I don't use chicken fillets, and Wonderbras don't come in a big enough cup size to fit me. I feel so disappointed that I've never had one.

oh and there's that tape too, to tape your bits up, for those revealing dresses.

Esoteric_

starWave wrote: »

oh and there's that tape too, to tape your bits up, for those revealing dresses.

Jaysus, mine don't sag enough to need tit tape just yet!

justforlaugh

CommanderC wrote: »

That's the f,uckin fugliest pair of shoes I've ever seen.

why are you banned

starWave

Esoteric_ wrote: »

Wouldn't be my style at all, but they're a pretty standard pair of court heels, pretty handy for work if you're in a job that requires heels as part of their standard dress code.

When did welly soles become standard in court?

Das Kissen

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

They're not deceitful, they're a part of grooming. Most people on the earth do things like that, and many species of animal do too.

As for the ethical question, I'm not sure you understand what ethics are - maybe you meant honest?

I wear make-up around my boyfriend (in your terms, my potential mate), and I also spend lots of time with him without any make-up on. He's seen me done up for a night out and he's seen me fully naked just out of the shower, no add-ons. Surely if the intent was to deceive, you would have to implement these grooming methods constantly, in order to hide your true hideous form?

starWave

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

Personally I have no problem with it even if it is one's intention to deceive a potential mate. It's part of the game of life if you ask me. What are your opinions?

Is this national geographic? Its not deceitful, but anthropology speaking, the clever people will always seek out an advantage, in mating and in life.

justforlaugh

makeup is like a mask which help to build woman confidence or feel better about themselves

a few guys can find it intimidating

Zen65

Das Kissen wrote: »

Do you believe it is ethical to wear these items considering they are deceiptful?

In much the same manner that clothes are deceiptful?

Weird argument!

Esoteric_

justforlaugh wrote: »

makeup is like a mask which help to build woman confidence or feel better about themselves

a few guys can find it intimidating

You forgot the part where it can be used by an already confident woman to deliberately enhance the facial features she finds attractive already. We don't all use it to boost confidence, ffs. I use it because I have nice eyes, so I like to show them off by drawing attention to them.

justforlaugh

Esoteric_ wrote: »

You forgot the part where it can be used by an already confident woman to deliberately enhance the facial features she finds attractive already. We don't all use it to boost confidence, ffs. I use it because I have nice eyes, so I like to show them off by drawing attention to them.

ok

justforlaugh

make-up like a drag queen can look intimidating but there nothing wrong with wearing make up at all.

Jake Rugby Walrus666

Vanity thy name is narcissism.

Femme_Fatale

Oh After Hours... where women get comments for not making an effort with their appearance... and get comments ("mask", "vanity") for making an effort with their appearance. :pac: