Passat to Qashqai - Opinions

whitelightrider

Hey folks,

Im looking for opinions/advice. Ive had trouble with my 07 Passat over the years and in the last it cost me 860 when the electric handbrake failed.
Ive decided to get rid of it and was looking for an ix35 in Galway, but cant find any. So I spotted 2 Qashqai's and I looked at one today.
He offered me 6500 for my Passat which I think is pretty good considering the tax and NCT are just out and its in need of 2 front tyres.

But what do people think of the qashqai? Mileage wont be big (Monivea to Galway).

Max Power1

What you should look at is the cost to change, not the headline figure of what he is offering you for the golf. A good price on the passat is not much help if the cashcow is going for €10k

whitelightrider

Max Power1 wrote: »

What you should look at is the cost to change, not the headline figure of what he is offering you for the golf. A good price on the passat is not much help if the cashcow is going for €10k

Hey Maxpower. Price on the 2010 Qashqai Acenta is 17350. He's selling it to me for 10,850, but thats before any haggling which Im assuming will bring it down again.
Passat is a comfortline with 191000 km on the clock. Qashqai has only 58,000 km on the clock.

MidlandsM

I'd go an buy an ix35, better suv, better engine and if you get a 10 plate one for instance, you will still have over 2 years on hyundai warranty on it.

the good news is that you'll have no issue with any hyundai (or any) garage wanting your passat, as they sell well in the trade. So, I'd look nationwide for a deal on a hyundai, and warranty-wise, if you need anything done, you can have it done in your local hyundai dealers so there is no barrier to you travelling for the right deal.

and as said above, look at the "cost to change" i.e. the money its costing you to get out of the passat, and into your new suv

whitelightrider

MidlandsM wrote: »

I'd go an buy an ix35, better suv, better engine and if you get a 10 plate one for instance, you will still have over 2 years on hyundai warranty on it.

the good news is that you'll have no issue with any hyundai (or any) garage wanting your passat, as they sell well in the trade. So, I'd look nationwide for a deal on a hyundai, and warranty-wise, if you need anything done, you can have it done in your local hyundai dealers so there is no barrier to you travelling for the right deal.

and as said above, look at the "cost to change" i.e. the money its costing you to get out of the passat, and into your new suv

Agreed, only problem is that the 2 other garages I spoke to about the ix35 would only offer 5000 for my passat and the SUV is coming in at 18950. So its almost 14000 to change. Absolutely love the ix35 but I have to be realistic about budget too.

MidlandsM

whitelightrider wrote: »

Agreed, only problem is that the 2 other garages I spoke to about the ix35 would only offer 5000 for my passat and the SUV is coming in at 18950. So its almost 14000 to change. Absolutely love the ix35 but I have to be realistic about budget too.

ok then, put 2 budget tyres on the passat €100, and put it in for the nct €55, and sell it private for €6250 it will sell , and then you can straike a much harder deal on an ix for cash straight purchase.

whitelightrider

MidlandsM wrote: »

ok then, put 2 budget tyres on the passat €100, and put it in for the nct €55, and sell it private for €6250 it will sell , and then you can straike a much harder deal on an ix for cash straight purchase.

Honestly that could take ages though and I cant take the risk of something else going wrong with that car. The mechanic gave it the once over and advised me to get rid of it, just in case. I had a lovely ix35 sourced here in Galway but it sold before the garage got back with a price on mine! 6500 is a good price for my own from what I can gather. One garage only offered 4500.

MuppetCheck

17k for a 3 year old diesel Nissan that's about 27k ish new? Christ, that's some retained value.

And again, what they are offering you doesn't matter a feck. They could say it's 20k and give you 10k for your own and the cost to change is still the same.

MidlandsM

yeah, the nissan is wayyyyy overpriced.

whitelightrider wrote: »

Honestly that could take ages though and I cant take the risk of something else going wrong with that car. The mechanic gave it the once over and advised me to get rid of it, just in case. I had a lovely ix35 sourced here in Galway but it sold before the garage got back with a price on mine! 6500 is a good price for my own from what I can gather. One garage only offered 4500.

€6500 is not a good rpcie, when the price retail price of what they are selling you is over inflated.............you see, you are being hoodwinked into thinking its a good deal, when in actually fact, you are being RODE on the nissan price.

whitelightrider

MidlandsM wrote: »

€6500 is not a good rpcie, when the price retail price of what they are selling you is over inflated.............you see, you are being hoodwinked into thinking its a good deal, when in actually fact, you are being RODE on the nissan price.

Well the 3 cars I looked at are all coming in at the 17350 - 17500 price range. So Im assuming offering 16500 would be a good deal for the garage. Id be expecting to pay 10,000 for the qashqai along with my own. Mileage is less than 40,000 on each one.
There's no way I could find an ix35 for 10,000 with my Passat. They're all averaging at 18500.

MidlandsM

whitelightrider wrote: »

Well the 3 cars I looked at are all coming in at the 17350 - 17500 price range. So Im assuming offering 16500 would be a good deal for the garage. Id be expecting to pay 10,000 for the qashqai along with my own. Mileage is less than 40,000 on each one.
There's no way I could find an ix35 for 10,000 with my Passat. They're all averaging at 18500.

sure, but for the extra 1k, the ix is a better suv, better engine, better warranty. As said previously, you should at least put 2 cheap tyres on the passat, and last it thru the test, if it fails..big deal, you can still flog it to any dealer......it'll not devalue it, but if it passes, it'll add value to your passat and you have an easy sale on your hands...and will get a better deal buying straight.

whitelightrider

Ok so if the qashqai is a bad buy what car would ye recommend? Budget is 10k with my own.

Matthewjohn

How about a yeti?
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Yeti/2.0TDi-A/36513693104945980/advert?channel=CARS

whitelightrider

Matthewjohn wrote: »

How about a yeti?
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Yeti/2.0TDi-A/36513693104945980/advert?channel=CARS

Oh God no, they're terrible looking

MuppetCheck

If you want a car of that ilk look at a Kia sportage or Ford Kuga too.

whitelightrider

MuppetCheck wrote: »

If you want a car of that ilk look at a Kia sportage or Ford Kuga too.

Looked at both of those -
Sportage is class and gorgeous - but cant find any in my price range.
Kuga - cant seem to find anything around Galway to look at. They also seem expensive.

whitelightrider

Checked out a Kuga online there to get an idea. If I get 6500 for my own Im still looking at backing it 16000 to get a 2010. Budget is pretty tight and can only afford about 11000 with my own to change.

MuppetCheck

Jesus drop the bloody price for your own nonsense ffs. You need to price cars and cost to change not what they are giving you for your own as the figure they tell you is made to make you think your getting a great deal.

Does it need to be a poser jeep?

whitelightrider

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Jesus drop the bloody price for your own nonsense ffs. You need to price cars and cost to change not what they are giving you for your own as the figure they tell you is made to make you think your getting a great deal.

Does it need to be a poser jeep?

No, it doesnt need to be a poser jeep.
And for someone who's not in the trade or into cars, the price they advertise and the price they offer for my own is the only thing I have to go on - no need for the ffs either mate. Was only looking for advice from people in the know. Not bloody abuse.

NIMAN

Any someone who will soon have 3 little 'uns under 4, anyone know if the Qashqai can hold 3 kids in the back? Maybe 2 car seats and 1 booster?

whitelightrider

NIMAN wrote: »

Any someone who will soon have 3 little 'uns under 4, anyone know if the Qashqai can hold 3 kids in the back? Maybe 2 car seats and 1 booster?

Hey Niman, I have a little one and we put the car seat into the Qashqai yesterday. Id say itd be tight to get 2 and a booster in there to be honest

NIMAN

Thanks, always wondered how they made such big cars so tight for space on the inside!

Thats the Qashqai off the list so.

bazz26

The Qashqai is not a SUV. It is a compact hatchback that sits tall, has beefed up bumpers and made to look like a SUV which makes them very popular. There is also a Qashqai+2 which has a longer wheelbase and 7 seats.

Max Power1

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Jesus drop the bloody price for your own nonsense ffs. You need to price cars and cost to change not what they are giving you for your own as the figure they tell you is made to make you think your getting a great deal.

Does it need to be a poser jeep?

For someone calling themselves muppet check, you could do with checking your posts for muppetry before posting tbh. The chap was only looking for advice.

(Albeit for a ca$hcow :P )

colm_mcm

Muppetchecks point of the trade in price being not relevant is true though.

Its all about cost to change and having a reasonable idea what the car you're buying is worth.

I reckon the qashqai in question is mental money.

I seem to remember selling new NI imported zero mileage qashqais about 4 years ago for €23k

Maybe I remember wrong?

whitelightrider

colm_mcm wrote: »

Muppetchecks point of the trade in price being not relevant is true though.

Its all about cost to change and having a reasonable idea what the car you're buying is worth.

I reckon the qashqai in question is mental money.

I seem to remember selling new NI imported zero mileage qashqais about 4 years ago for €23k

Maybe I remember wrong?

Hey Colm, Ive been looking around for the last 2 or 3 weeks and all the Qashqai's Ive come across with around 40,000 miles and 2010 have all been around the 17,000. Ive gone to 3 garages and each one have valued my car from 4500 to 6500. Thats 3 different garages. So the best price I got was 6500. Qashqai is the only one within budget.

Now if you can find an ix35 that would suit my budget Id take it in a heart beat! Been on to 2 garages (waterford and Dublin) about 2 they had advertised and both garages offered 5,000 for mine which left me having to back it almost 14000 to change.

Im not in love with the Qashqai, and Ive some concerns over boot size, etc. But I need to get rid of the Passat before anything else fails on it.

MuppetCheck

Max Power1 wrote: »

For someone calling themselves muppet check, you could do with checking your posts for muppetry before posting tbh. The chap was only looking for advice.

(Albeit for a ca$hcow :P )

You're truly hilarious. He's been given the advice ad nauseum in this thread about in other posts about the price. Read it and it will help him. And if you don't like it give report it rather than back seat modding.

whitelightrider

Right guys, dont bring the thread off topic. MuppetCheck - I know you keep saying about the Qashqai being overpriced and it not being about the trade in value, but the cost to change. I gave 3 garages that have the car priced around the same, also the 3 of them gave different prices for mine - 4500, 6000, and 6500. Is that not the cost to change for a regular Joe Soap like me?
Id love to change to the ix35 but each one Ive looked at costs close to 19000. So the cost to change to me would be 12500 to these.

I said it already - if you can find a dealer that has a Qashqai or an ix35 thats within my budget then feel free to let me know and Ill jump at it. I dont have the time to put the time into the Passat and wait around for it to sell.

_Kaiser_

If it's any use to ya OP, I recently changed my Passat as well (06 2.0 TDI DSG Comfortline with a full VW history and 240,000 km) and was given valuations between 4k and 5k

FrontDoor

What is wrong with the passat?

whitelightrider

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

If it's any use to ya OP, I recently changed my Passat as well (06 2.0 TDI DSG Comfortline with a full VW history and 240,000 km) and was given valuations between 4k and 5k

Brilliant, thanks Kaiser. Makes my quote look pretty good so.

whitelightrider

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Wow, you're smart.

Hey MuppetCheck, I really do appreciate your advice on this. But you have to realise Im not in the trade and the figures given to me by the garages are all I have to go on. Going by what others have said over the last few days 6500 is a good price for my Passat. Also trawling through Carzone I can see that 16,000 to 17,000 seems to be standard price for a 2010 Qashqai with low mileage.
Cost to change is about 11,000 without any haggling.
If I could find an ix35 (http://www.carzone.ie/search/Hyundai/ix35/2.0-LITR/37113734495023620/advert?channel=CARS) Id jump at it, but I can guarantee they wont offer 6500 for my Passat.

colm_mcm

Why not look at a tiguan? Youd get an 09 and perhaps if its a vw dealer they'd give a bit more for the passat.

Bpmull

My parents bought a ix-35 new in 2010. It was a lovely car but Just too hard on diesel. They traded in a 2007 Santa Fe 2.2 4wd deluxe 7 seater and it was auto the ix-35 was manual. Yet the ix-35 was only marginally better on diesel which was shocking considering its a good bit smaller and manual. But if you don't mind the low mpg they are a good SUV.

whitelightrider

colm_mcm wrote: »

Why not look at a tiguan? Youd get an 09 and perhaps if its a vw dealer they'd give a bit more for the passat.

Not going near anything with an electronic brake every again. They're a disaster.

MuppetCheck

whitelightrider wrote: »

Hey MuppetCheck, I really do appreciate your advice on this. But you have to realise Im not in the trade and the figures given to me by the garages are all I have to go on. Going by what others have said over the last few days 6500 is a good price for my Passat. Also trawling through Carzone I can see that 16,000 to 17,000 seems to be standard price for a 2010 Qashqai with low mileage.
Cost to change is about 11,000 without any haggling.
If I could find an ix35 (http://www.carzone.ie/search/Hyundai/ix35/2.0-LITR/37113734495023620/advert?channel=CARS) Id jump at it, but I can guarantee they wont offer 6500 for my Passat.

Would a people carrier not be better? Seem less popular secondhand and will be lower priced compares to a quasquai. C max or similar?

whitelightrider

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Would a people carrier not be better? Seem less popular secondhand and will be lower priced compares to a quasquai. C max or similar?

Probably but I want to stay away from that for another while! We've only 1 kid and Im only 35 so dont want to jump into the people carrier scene just yet. Plus my wife would freak if I drove one home!!!

colm_mcm

Qashqai isn't really your typical 35 year old bloke car.
I get that they're in demand but there are so many cars I'd have instead.

whitelightrider

colm_mcm wrote: »

Qashqai isn't really your typical 35 year old bloke car.
I get that they're in demand but there are so many cars I'd have instead.

Has to be diesel Colm and about 10k with my own to trade.
Other than that Im open to suggestions!! Wife isnt mad about the Qashqai either to be honest. Its just within budget for me and has low mileage and is decent looking.

colm_mcm

Are you open to regular saloons?

whitelightrider

colm_mcm wrote: »

Are you open to regular saloons?

Definitely, sure Ive been driving the passat for the last number of years.

colm_mcm

What do you think of the seat exeo? Basically an updated old model audi a4.
You can pick them up for handy enough money
Smaller than your passat though.

whitelightrider

colm_mcm wrote: »

What do you think of the seat exeo? Basically an updated old model audi a4.
You can pick them up for handy enough money
Smaller than your passat though.

Theyre a nice looking machine. Was also looking at the Opel Insignia there too. Nice looking and seem decent prices for both.

colm_mcm

Kinda puts the qashqai in perspective.

whitelightrider

colm_mcm wrote: »

Kinda puts the qashqai in perspective.

Would go for the Opel over the Seat to be honest.

Renegade Mechanic

The Qashqai is one of the most comfortable cars Ive driven. The 1.5,diesel is renaults dCi engine. Pretty sorted at this stage, a low mileage, well serviced one will give you a good service life, despite Renaults dubious reputation. Road noise is low as is wind noise and theyre not as complex as the Passats. The relay for the rad fan can burn out and sometimes this can damage the body control computer but its rare enough and a check of the relays in front of the battery will see it coming. Tyres are about the only service item more expensive than the Passats 16" tyres. Id go for it myself:)

_Kaiser_

As I mentioned earlier, I changed my Passat recently too and went for a 2005 A6.

You'd get a newer one than that for your money but - in the right spec - they're a world apart from the Passat (and I loved my Passat ), plus they're very practical when it comes to a little fella/lady too with plenty of rear seat room and a massive boot like your Passat.

Worth taking one for a test drive anyway...

whitelightrider

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

As I mentioned earlier, I changed my Passat recently too and went for a 2005 A6.

You'd get a newer one than that for your money but - in the right spec - they're a world apart from the Passat (and I loved my Passat ), plus they're very practical when it comes to a little fella/lady too with plenty of rear seat room and a massive boot like your Passat.

Worth taking one for a test drive anyway...

Thanks a million Kaiser. Ill take a look at the Audi but Id be looking to get into the cheaper tax bands so would be looking at 2008 and upwards.

MuppetCheck also mentioned looking at the higher spec Mondeos which Ill take a look at later too.

_Kaiser_

whitelightrider wrote: »

Thanks a million Kaiser. Ill take a look at the Audi but Id be looking to get into the cheaper tax bands so would be looking at 2008 and upwards.

MuppetCheck also mentioned looking at the higher spec Mondeos which Ill take a look at later too.

I really wouldn't rate a Mondeo against something like an A6 or even the Passat but that's me - on the flip side, as I've said in the past, get a D-reg dark coloured one, wear blue shirts a lot, and never be held up on a motorway again!

Yeah for that sort of money you mentioned with the trade-in I'd imagine you'd get a newer post-08 A6 myself and maybe even the facelift model which is a bit better again.

whitelightrider

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

I really wouldn't rate a Mondeo against something like an A6 or even the Passat but that's me - on the flip side, as I've said in the past, get a D-reg dark coloured one, wear blue shirts a lot, and never be held up on a motorway again!

Yeah for that sort of money you mentioned with the trade-in I'd imagine you'd get a newer post-08 A6 myself and maybe even the facelift model which is a bit better again.

Exactly. Budget is tight and I want to move on the Passat asap.
Ill look at saloon's like Insignia and possibly Audi if they come within budget.
First choice was always the ix35. I love the look and drive of them but they're impossible to find!
Last option is the Qashqai, which I have to say I do like. But Id be worried about getting a buggy and stuff into the boot of it.

Tea 1000

whitelightrider wrote: »

Exactly. Budget is tight and I want to move on the Passat asap.
Ill look at saloon's like Insignia and possibly Audi if they come within budget.
First choice was always the ix35. I love the look and drive of them but they're impossible to find!
Last option is the Qashqai, which I have to say I do like. But Id be worried about getting a buggy and stuff into the boot of it.

I'd go with the Insignia in hatchback. Far nicer and better value than a Qashqai.