Tour de France - Stage 19, Fri Jul 19, Bourg d'Oisans-Bornand, **Unmasked Spoilers**

dastardly00

Stage 19, Bourg d'Oisans - Le Grand Bornand, 204.5 km

Will any of the GC guys have the legs to attack today??







Last kilometre:


Km / To Go | Climb | Length | Grade | Cat
33.5 / 172 | Col du Glandon | 21.6km | 5.1% | HC
83.5 / 122 | Col de la Madeleine | 19.2km | 7.9% | HC
143 / 62 | Col de Tamié | 8.6km | 6.2% | 2
165 / 40 | Col de l'Épine | 6.1km | 7.3% | 1
191.5 / 14 | Col de la Croix Fry | 11.3km | 7% | 1

Stage betting: J Rodriguez 6/1; P Rolland 7/1; M Nieve 8/1; A Valverde 9/1.

Here's a link to the Irish riders' diaries thread.

Live TV coverage on Eurosport1 from 9.30am, ITV4 from 2pm, and TG4 from 12.25pm.
Highlights on Eurosport1 at 7.15pm, Eurosport2 at 11pm, ITV4 at 7pm, and TG4 at 9.10pm.

Live text-ticker will be here.

retalivity

to the lad in ydays thread backing dan at 40/1.....hes got a virus, so no chance.

thomas de gendt at 40/1 is a much better bet. although i think purito at favourite is on the ball here.


saxo to implement another tactical masterplan where they send 4 up the road for contador & kreuziger, but they end up 20 mins ahead of the peleton after the second HC so they tt home for the win for tossato


EDIT: i think sagan at 400/1 is very generous. could see him being with the peloton at the intermediate sprint if gc guys are knackered, and if a breakaway goes then then he shouldnt have any problems with the rest of the bumps

TinyExplosions

Ah the Glandon, always a source of fond memories... I beat Blorg up there you know...

Proof:


apologies to the 99% of you who have no idea what I'm on about...

couerdelion

Has anyone ever won all three jersey classifications?

Seeing Froome at the top of GC and Mountains and top 10 in the Sprint made me wonder...

Guybrush T

couerdelion wrote: »

Has anyone ever won all three jersey classifications?

Seeing Froome at the top of GC and Mountains and top 10 in the Sprint made me wonder...

Merckx of course, in his first TdF, and he would have won the white jersey too if it was going at the time.

TinyExplosions

Eddy Merckx won Yellow, Points, Mountains, Combination (which ain't around any more), and the Team classifications with Faema in '69 -there was no young rider classification then, so we have to discount that.

ednwireland

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Ah the Glandon, always a source of fond memories... I beat Blorg up there you know...

didnt he have to disappear off around the world after that

Morrisseeee

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Ah the Glandon, always a source of fond memories... I beat Blorg up there you know...

What did you beat him up with, your pump ? :pac:

Today's stage has potential for fireworks or an absolute borefest, it really depends on the 'recoveries' after yesterday and the 'calculations' !

TinyExplosions

ednwireland wrote: »

didnt he have to disappear off around the world after that

The shame was too much for him (particularly when it was immortalised in mug form by Caroline_ie (that I still drink tay from to this day)

Morrisseeee wrote: »

What did you beat him up with, your pump ? :pac:

My mighty girth defeated his mountain goat ways

Reginald P. DuM

Wakey wakey, started already on ES.... Gonna be tougher than the double D'Huez today. Hopefully as good too.

manafana

dastardly was going start it myself before bed last night but was sure you would look after it.

here is an extract of my picks from my blog today:

Will Andy Schleck try something? He showed some form in the time trial but the finish downhill to Le Grand Bornand isn’t his strong point. Saxo Bank will race this from the gun but how will the likes of Belkin and Movistar react? Teams are now not just worried about how to get first place but how they could grab 2nd or 3rd. Quintana has been smart so far in realising how valuable a 2nd is rather than nothing at all and has ridden as such. Down the order there are a huge number of climbers who will want to risk their chance here for stage success.


Euskatel who launched just some minor attacks today should take more risks here to try grab a much needed stage winDe Gendt is also likely to have a go as his team struggles to fund its future. Serpa is starting to show some form and with Lampre having no goals he is one to watch. For the 3rd day there is a prediction of rain, but for a 3rd day will it be wrong; only a few drops may land. Dan Martin had a very bad day at the office suffering early doors. There is no doubt in my mind he eased off and is hunting himself a second stage now.
De Gendt needs to attack for his team

Stage Winner:
.15pts De Gendt 66/1 skybet
.15pts Serpa 66/1 various
.1pt Dan Martin 40/1 various

pelevin

Is Froome at 16/1 enticing? Fulgsang any chance 80/1?

manafana

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Ah the Glandon, always a source of fond memories... I beat Blorg up there you know...

Proof:


apologies to the 99% of you who have no idea what I'm on about...

I bet idleeater up the tourmalet but I had to deny him a gel to do it

goose06

TG4 Stream is offline, any other legal streams available?

gordongekko

goose06 wrote: »

TG4 Stream is offline, any other legal streams available?

aertv.ie

Hermy

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Ah the Glandon, always a source of fond memories... I beat Blorg up there you know...

TinyExplosions wrote: »

The shame was too much for him (particularly when it was immortalised in mug form by Caroline_ie (that I still drink tay from to this day)

Two posters I've not seen round these parts for a while - hope both are well.

buffalo

manafana wrote: »

I bet idleeater up the tourmalet but I had to deny him a gel to do it

Would he not just take the 20sec penalty?

buffalo

Hermy wrote: »

Two posters I've not seen round these parts for a while - hope both are well.

Both are currently out of the country I believe, I know at least that Caroline_ie is well, except for some rain.

uphillonly

Anyone know the total climbing? That looks a brutal day after yesterday. At least 4,500m based on the highs & lows.

Breakaway chance for anyone who didn't bury themselves on the Alpe.

uphillonly

goose06 wrote: »

TG4 Stream is offline, any other legal streams available?

Eurosport player is only £3 pm. Good value to watch the whole tour on a quality stream.

Max_Charger

My money is on Valverde today, I can feel it in me waters.

-K2-

uphillonly wrote: »

Anyone know the total climbing? That looks a brutal day after yesterday. At least 4,500m based on the highs & lows.

Breakaway chance for anyone who didn't bury themselves on the Alpe.

5200m apparently.

pelevin

ITV4 have bits of the cycling between ads.

AstraMonti

Froome is a creepy fella.. that smile earlier on the camera.. jeez.

07Lapierre

uphillonly wrote: »

Eurosport player is only £3 pm. Good value to watch the whole tour on a quality stream.

filmon.com for ITV4 coverage.

yohan the great

The lad on eurosport with Sean Kelly is seriously biased

uphillonly

AstraMonti wrote: »

Froome is a creepy fella.. that smile earlier on the camera.. jeez.

Ryder's glasses are a bit Willy Wonka.

manafana

buffalo wrote: »

Would he not just take the 20sec penalty?

the team car (camper van) was down the road at the time, i did give him a croissant.

niceonetom

Marmotte flashbacks for me there and I bet I'm not alone in that - slightly frantic dash out of Bourg before hitting that damn at the base of the Glandon. Good times.

"So, forget about today, @ryder_hesjedal has been referring to tomorrow's stage 19 as "THE REDONKATHON" since Corsica. That means very hard."

-tweeted by Millar yesterday.

This is a similarly relentless climb fest to stage 9 so garmin might ride to the same script, though not for Dan I guess.

pelevin

yohan the great wrote: »

The lad on eurosport with Sean Kelly is seriously biased

He's hard to take all right.

ROK ON

JRod for me.

Dr. Bre

Riblon will be the strangest winner of the polka dot jersey since charteau a few years back. Some price he must of been. Any idea if Chavanel in break ? a tour is incomplete without a win for him..

manafana

quozl

The man is a legend!

pelevin

Not sure I've ever been been so mad about a sportsman as Sagan before . . . maybe Maradona back in the day . . .

Max_Charger

What happened Jack Bauer?

ThisRegard

The guy in the red tshirt and pinky/whitey hat shares the man crush, blowing kisses at Sagan as he goes by.

Chips Lovell

Max_Charger wrote: »

What happened Jack Bauer?

Someone's kidnapped his daughter.

uphillonly

quozl wrote: »

The man is a legend!

Hands free wheelie! Even Brailsford might be impressed with that, after he'd stopped tutting about it being wreckless.

dastardly00

Max_Charger wrote: »

What happened Jack Bauer?

He ran out of time.

dastardly00

uphillonly wrote: »

Ryder's glasses are a bit Willy Wonka.

They remind me more of Kanye's

manafana

uphillonly wrote: »

Hands free wheelie! Even Brailsford might be impressed with that, after he'd stopped tutting about it being wreckless.

yeah he has just got such control of the bike

dastardly00

manafana wrote: »

dastardly was going start it myself before bed last night but was sure you would look after it.

Yeah I meant to PM you to ask to start the thread because I knew it was going to be ridiculous o'clock before I got a chance.

godtabh

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Someone's kidnapped his daughter.

Again

uphillonly

Pineau, Cavendish and Kwiatkowski apparently broke out of GC group on Glandon descent. Shame we never get to see the sprinters descending prowess on TV.

uphillonly

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Someone's kidnapped his daughter.

He's getting on a bit, might be his granddaughter this time.

quozl

uphillonly wrote: »

Hands free wheelie! Even Brailsford might be impressed with that, after he'd stopped tutting about it being wreckless.

I think Sagan's biggest threat to winning the green jersey is an unfortunate wheely related accident!

Did you see him turn his handlebars and casually slap them back while wheelying 2 days ago - it's escalating. I hope he's been training!

dastardly00

Update:

Hesjedal and Izagirre are in the lead.


Flecha, Riblon, Moser, Rolland, and Cunego at 2.20.


De Marchi (CAN), Bak (LTB), De Clercq (LTB), Burghardt (BMC), Moinard (BMC), Morabito (BMC), Bakelants (RTL), Didier (RTL), Kloden (RTL), Cousin (EUC), Gavazzi (AST), Geniez (FDJ), Bardet (ALM), Kadri (ALM), Hernandez (TST), Paulinho (TST), Nieve (EUS), Sicard (EUS), Costa (MOV), Plaza (MOV), Rojas (MOV), Coppel (COF), Navarro (COF), Favilli (LAM), Serpa (LAM), Martin (OPQ), Gesink (BEL), Nordhaug (BEL), Meyer (OGE) and Hoogerland (VCD) at 2:55.


Froome group at 8:15.

RobFowl

"Hard to believe, but Mark Cavendish has jumped from the Froome group, together with teammates Kwiatkowski and Pineau. They have about a minute on teh group. No doubt they just want to build up a buffer before going up the Madelaine, so that Cavendish doesn't lose too much time in the end."

uphillonly

RobFowl wrote: »

"Hard to believe, but Mark Cavendish has jumped from the Froome group, together with teammates Kwiatkowski and Pineau. They have about a minute on teh group. No doubt they just want to build up a buffer before going up the Madelaine, so that Cavendish doesn't lose too much time in the end."

Smart idea, he's a good descender so why not give himself a bit more time & less red-zone effort on next climb.

Could also be for Kwiatkowski, he's 9th overall.

riparooo

Dan Martin in main peloton halfway up the second HC climb so hopefully he is feeling somewhat better.