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Ordering a load of 1c coins

  • 17-07-2013 09:42AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭


    I was offered a new job recently and finished with my last employer at the end of June. That company was actually taken over by a new company at the same time.

    I was to get paid on the 15th July for the month of June. As it turns out I got paid twice by mistake. ( Once by the old company and once by the new company) I noticed this on pay day and I expected a call from the new company to ask for it back, which of course I was going to do.

    Rightly enough I got a call yesterday from the new guys who were extremely rude and they explained they had paid me in error and that I had to pay it back within 24 hours. Now as I said I was expecting the call and ready to transfer it back anyway but the attitude was shocking. They wanted me to send it to an English account, even though the company is in Ireland ??

    I explained that I would send back the full amount, minus any charges I would be hit with as it was an international transfer to which I was again rudely told I had to send the full amount. Told them no way, that if I was being hit with a charge it was being passed on to them. They were still not happy and I was getting pissed at this point so I told them I would drop the money in cash to their office.

    So i have decided that the c***s are now getting it in bags of 1c coins. Does anybody know what the process for getting a large amount of coins (€2100) from Ulster Bank is ?


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  • Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ring them up and ask!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Strituck wrote: »
    I was offered a new job recently and finished with my last employer at the end of June. That company was actually taken over by a new company at the same time.

    I was to get paid on the 15th July for the month of June. As it turns out I got paid twice by mistake. ( Once by the old company and once by the new company) I noticed this on pay day and I expected a call from the new company to ask for it back, which of course I was going to do.

    Rightly enough I got a call yesterday from the new guys who were extremely rude and they explained they had paid me in error and that I had to pay it back within 24 hours. Now as I said I was expecting the call and ready to transfer it back anyway but the attitude was shocking. They wanted me to send it to an English account, even though the company is in Ireland ??

    I explained that I would send back the full amount, minus any charges I would be hit with as it was an international transfer to which I was again rudely told I had to send the full amount. Told them no way, that if I was being hit with a charge it was being passed on to them. They were still not happy and I was getting pissed at this point so I told them I would drop the money in cash to their office.

    So i have decided that the c***s are now getting it in bags of 1c coins. Does anybody know what the process for getting a large amount of coins (€2100) from Ulster Bank is ?

    If that's your salary, perhaps you need to consider not burning bridges.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I think you're better off not bothering. Just give them the money and get over it, you won't gain anything by doing otherwise.


  • Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And thats 400+ kgs of coins


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    There is something that I read before which advised that paying large amounts in small coins is not acceptable legal tender. I think it was passenger trying to get on a bus with a grudge against the company. The bus company did not have to accept the small change as payment. Caution advised. Strike up the barbie and enjoy the summer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    urbanledge wrote: »
    Ring them up and ask!


    stroke of genius.

    Who would have thought that you can find out about the general day to day workings of a bank by contacting said bank.

    op ring the bank ffs


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Kettleson wrote: »
    There is something that I read before which advised that paying large amounts in small coins is not acceptable legal tender. I think it was passenger trying to get on a bus with a grudge against the company. The bus company did not have to accept the small change as payment. Caution advised. Strike up the barbie and enjoy the summer.

    Pretty sure this relates to purchases. Not overly sure if the same applies to the settlement of debts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    The following is an extract from the Economic and Monetary Union Act, 1998:
    “10(1) No person, other than the Central Bank of Ireland and such persons as may be designated by the Minister by order, shall be obliged to accept more than 50 coins denominated in euro or in cent in any single transaction

    They are well within their rights not to accept it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I'm not sure, but I think they're under no obligation to accept that amount of coins, so you'll be charged with the return delivery and still have to pay them the amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    urbanledge wrote: »
    And thats 400+ kgs of coins

    Wheelbarrow ?
    alwaysadub wrote: »
    They are well within their rights not to accept it.

    Feck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Did you get the name of the guy on the phone?


    Walk in the office, do your business and tell him that his attitude stinks etc etc etc then walk out.



    Giving them 1c coins is a bit immature imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭highgiant1985


    You do realise how stupid this idea is don't you?

    So what the other person was being a prick, be the bigger person and behave like an adult. If you're that unhappy with them then make a formal compliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭mcbert


    You know €2100 of 1-cent coins will weigh 483kg (@2.3g each - according to wikipedia). Nearly half a tonne.

    If you can order that amount, you'll probably pay a significant handling charge! And then transport charges, to move it anywhere. You arent going to fit half a tonne into the back of a car.

    But, haha, I love it... if you can manage to do it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    If I were you I'd just take out the €2100 in €5 notes and fold them like this just so I could feel like a drug dealer for a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Pretty sure this relates to purchases. Not overly sure if the same applies to the settlement of debts.
    It's any transaction, really.

    OP, it'll be more hassle for you than for them, tbh. You'll spend your time and effort lugging these coins around to bring them in. They'll just pay some guy to bring it back to the bank. The only loser is you.

    Ring or send an email to the head of payroll or finance in the old company noting that you were ready to pay the money back straight away, but the guy who ran you up was a complete asshole about it. Make sure you CC as many relevant people as you can on it.

    Then move on with your life. It's too short to waste your effort on petty grudges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    What is the law in the terms of having to re-pay something that has been paid to you in error?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Kettleson wrote: »
    What is the law in the terms of having to re-pay something that has been paid to you in error?
    You have to repay it, because it's not yours. But you cannot be subject to any charges or losses in doing so. So you'd be well within your rights to deduct any transaction fees from the amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    They don't have to accept more than 50 coins regards if its paying off a debt or buying goods. Also maybe it might not be a good idea to be a cnut to your new employers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    The bank will charge you for this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Jester252 wrote: »
    They don't have to accept more than 50 coins regards if its paying off a debt or buying goods. Also maybe it might not be a good idea to be a cnut to your new employers

    Sorry should be clear. Its not my current employers. Its the guys who took over the last company.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,612 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    You'd be charged a 2-5% fee for that volume of coin in any case...

    Personally, I'd call up the company and ask to speak with the moron who was so rude to you on the phone's supervisor and lodge an official complaint. If he/she can provide an Irish Bank Account number, send the money asap, otherwise proceed as you already suggested to the underling and mail them a receipt for the bank charges (and postage of said receipts).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    seamus wrote: »
    You have to repay it, because it's not yours. But you cannot be subject to any charges or losses in doing so. So you'd be well within your rights to deduct any transaction fees from the amount.

    OP, take the above advice. It's the best option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Kettleson wrote: »
    OP, take the above advice. It's the best option.

    The thing is, that is exactly what I was going to do until they became ass hats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    seamus wrote: »
    You have to repay it, because it's not yours. But you cannot be subject to any charges or losses in doing so. So you'd be well within your rights to deduct any transaction fees from the amount.

    Could you deduct a processing fee for your time spent organising this? Like the way Ryanair charge a fee on refunds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Could you deduct a processing fee for your time spent organising this? Like the way Ryanair charge a fee on refunds

    Seems reasonable. One would assume you should not be down on time taken or money spent, or letters written, to get the money repaid. It was their error.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭ThreeBlindMice


    Strituck wrote: »
    I was offered a new job recently and finished with my last employer at the end of June. That company was actually taken over by a new company at the same time.

    I was to get paid on the 15th July for the month of June. As it turns out I got paid twice by mistake. ( Once by the old company and once by the new company) I noticed this on pay day and I expected a call from the new company to ask for it back, which of course I was going to do.

    Rightly enough I got a call yesterday from the new guys who were extremely rude and they explained they had paid me in error and that I had to pay it back within 24 hours. Now as I said I was expecting the call and ready to transfer it back anyway but the attitude was shocking. They wanted me to send it to an English account, even though the company is in Ireland ??

    I explained that I would send back the full amount, minus any charges I would be hit with as it was an international transfer to which I was again rudely told I had to send the full amount. Told them no way, that if I was being hit with a charge it was being passed on to them. They were still not happy and I was getting pissed at this point so I told them I would drop the money in cash to their office.

    So i have decided that the c***s are now getting it in bags of 1c coins. Does anybody know what the process for getting a large amount of coins (€2100) from Ulster Bank is ?
    What happens if you don't like your new job and you need a reference from your old job. You would have burnt your bridges completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Could you deduct a processing fee for your time spent organising this? Like the way Ryanair charge a fee on refunds
    I think reasonably, yes you could. That's not a €100 fee for the 2 minutes it takes to do the transfer back, it would be a nominal amount which reasonably reflects the cost to you of doing this. So like, 50c. That is, you can't make a profit, just be compensated for your costs.

    The kind of processing fees Ryanair charge are chargeable because they're notified upfront.

    Also, you couldn't order the 1c coins and then deduct those costs from the amount. Because that's just ridiculous.

    OP, just transfer to the UK account and deduct the fees from the amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    What happens if you don't like your new job and you need a reference from your old job. You would have burnt your bridges completely.

    Not a concern.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    I charge 50 cent a post.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Strituck wrote: »
    Sorry should be clear. Its not my current employers. Its the guys who took over the last company.

    You should set up a payment plan where you pay them back a euro or so a week.


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