Need my own place

dmcm_90

Hi i need a bit of advise on getting my own place
IM 23 living with my folks and i want to move out. IM on stoical well fare and I can rent allowance. I AM also on the housing list but cant wait that long Any advise will do
And please do not post get a job etc.
I cant work due my anxiety dissorder

Gatling

dmcm_90 wrote: »

Hi i need a bit of advise on getting my own place
IM 23 living with my folks and i want to move out. IM on stoical well fare and I can rent allowance. Any advise will do

You need to be privately renting on your own for 6 months and be accepted on to your local authority housing list

dmcm_90

Gatling wrote: »

You need to be privately renting on your own for 6 months and be accepted on to your local authority housing list

Im on the list a year and im sick waiting

Gatling

dmcm_90 wrote: »

Im on the list a year and im sick waiting

Minimum 6-8 year wait that's for the most in need is families ,single parents ,people with disability and at the bottom single men /women

dmcm_90

Gatling wrote: »

Minimum 6-8 year wait that's for the most in need is families ,single parents ,people with disability and at the bottom single men /women

thats to long any other ideas

Gatling

dmcm_90 wrote: »

thats to long any other ideas

Job ,morgage ,house ,

Lotto win ,

Not a lot you can actually do except wait

dmcm_90

Gatling wrote: »

Job ,morgage ,house ,

Lotto win ,

Not a lot you can actually do except wait

What about privet

Gatling

dmcm_90 wrote: »

What about privet

You need to rent on your own for 6 months before you even apply

bumper234

dmcm_90 wrote: »

What about privet

Nice hedges you should rent a house with them

Richard Dower

dmcm_90 wrote: »

Im on the list a year and im sick waiting

I've been on the waiting list since 1996....so a year is nothing. A single man is bottom of the totem pole....you'll wait 20 years and never get a place.

ted1

dmcm_90 wrote: »

Hi i need a bit of advise on getting my own place
IM 23 living with my folks and i want to move out. IM on stoical well fare and I can rent allowance. I AM also on the housing list but cant wait that long Any advise will do

Keep looking for a job, then you can afford to move out

zenno

Richard Dower wrote: »

I've been on the waiting list since 1996....so a year is nothing. A single man is bottom of the totem pole....you'll wait 20 years and never get a place.

I was told that as soon as you apply for social housing you are on the list and cannot be lowered down the list to accommodate anyone. Skipping the que i thought was not done in this regard ?.

Gatling

zenno wrote: »

I was told that as soon as you apply for social housing you are on the list and cannot be lowered down the list to accommodate anyone. Skipping the que i thought was not done in this regard ?.

Yes you can your housed based on need ,
So every one who has a bigger need than you gets placed above you and you languish at the bottom of the list till they decide single people take priority

Richard Dower

zenno wrote: »

I was told that as soon as you apply for social housing you are on the list and cannot be lowered down the list to accommodate anyone. Skipping the que i thought was not done in this regard ?.

Single women with kids get priority, people with a disability, couples with kids....single men are the lowest priority. Even single women are higher up...the list is conducted as a matter of those most in need or at risk, alas not by your place on the list.

zenno

Gatling wrote: »

Yes you can your housed based on need ,
So every one who has a bigger need than you gets placed above you and you languish at the bottom of the list till they decide single people take priority

But wouldn't that be discrimination ? if it was the case.

foggy_lad

zenno wrote: »

I was told that as soon as you apply for social housing you are on the list and cannot be lowered down the list to accommodate anyone. Skipping the que i thought was not done in this regard ?.

You are the same as any single woman or man but once the man or woman get married or a woman has a child their need increases and they get priority over you.

OP you should contact your local community welfare office about the rent allowance as they do have some discretion in allowing rent supplement to those who are not renting for the required 6 months, depending on your circumstances you may get it immediately.

Richard Dower

Gatling wrote: »

Yes you can your housed based on need ,
So every one who has a bigger need than you gets placed above you and you languish at the bottom of the list till they decide single people take priority

There is little to no stock of single person properties that are owned/built by the council. Those that do exist are occupied....enter RAS.

Gatling

zenno wrote: »

But wouldn't that be discrimination ? if it was the case.

Not really some people have greater need to be housed

zenno

Gatling wrote: »

Not really some people have greater need to be housed

Ok, I see. I was just curious as my friend is wating 7 years and thinks he will get something soon as he is single, so he won't be happy to hear this

Artful_Badger

OP you just wont be able to afford your own place on social welfare. If you want to move out look for a house share or something.

mattjack

Gatling wrote: »

Yes you can your housed based on need ,
So every one who has a bigger need than you gets placed above you and you languish at the bottom of the list till they decide single people take priority

That's it in a nutshell ... when you register looking for housing , you should also get a housing needs assessment done, effectively what Gatling is saying here is that a young single man is bottom of the list.

You could register as homeless , but you risk whatever welfare payment you're on if you don't appear somewhere in some sort of homeless hostel .

Gatling

zenno wrote: »

Ok, I see. I was just curious as my friend is wating 7 years and thinks he will get something soon as he is single, so he won't be happy to hear this

As Richard dowler said he's waiting 10 years

I've heard single blokes 15 years waiting

Richard Dower

17 years....and i was told not days ago that it was hopeless, zero stock available. You have men in their mid 50's living in them....sure they'll be around for another 30 years before they croak.

anncoates

ted1 wrote: »

Keep looking for a job, then you can afford to move out

Is it an unwritten rule on boards that every time an unemployed person asks for advice, you get some smug Get On Your Bike tyoe reply about finding a job?

Richard Dower

anncoates wrote: »

Is it an unwritten rule on boards that every time an unemployed person asks for advice, you get some smug Get On Your Bike tyoe reply about finding a job?

Pretty sure its written into the forum rules.......;)

athtrasna

anncoates wrote: »

Is it an unwritten rule on boards that every time an unemployed person asks for advice, you get some smug Get On Your Bike tyoe reply about finding a job?

The OP started by stating that they "want" to move out. I want to have a holiday, to have a house by the sea, to have a new-er car, but despite working all my adult life I can't afford to do any of these. It's not surprising that people react to posters like the OP looking for life improvements from our taxes.

zenno

Well in this case, The council should just have a paragraph saying...If you are single you need-not apply, 15 - 20 years waiting, may as well not bother.

zenno

athtrasna wrote: »

The OP started by stating that they "want" to move out. I want to have a holiday, to have a house by the sea, to have a new-er car, but despite working all my adult life I can't afford to do any of these. It's not surprising that people react to posters like the OP looking for life improvements from our taxes.

What a very disgruntled person you are.

Richard Dower

I belive the term "us taxpayers" is also part of the forum charter.......:P

ted1

anncoates wrote: »

Is it an unwritten rule on boards that every time an unemployed person asks for advice, you get some smug Get On Your Bike tyoe reply about finding a job?

The poster is being told it'll take years to get one, you could find a job in less time. Did the OP ask about getting a job on the work forum? Or did he jump straight to expecting the state to provide one. I am simply stating that th best way to get a home is to get a job.

Richard Dower

zenno wrote: »

Well in this case, The council should just have a paragraph saying...If you are single you need-not apply, 15 - 20 years waiting, may as well not bother.

That would be written discrimination, that would be illegal under EU law...whereas saying its based on need when it *is* in fact discrimination against single people gets them off the hook.

RAS even admitted to me the system is biased against single men.

zenno

I can see this turning into a dole-bashing thread or similar. Time to hit the road that-away

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Good luck OP in finding a place, best of luck

anncoates

athtrasna wrote: »

The OP started by stating that they "want" to move out. I want to have a holiday, to have a house by the sea, to have a new-er car, but despite working all my adult life I can't afford to do any of these. It's not surprising that people react to posters like the OP looking for life improvements from our taxes.

Maybe I'm mistaken then.

Maybe a moderator can confirm if it's OK or not.

Twoandahalfmen

Get a job and a mortgage and stop relying off the state.
Like the majority of people.

ted1

anncoates wrote: »

Maybe I'm mistaken then.

Maybe a moderator can confirm if it's OK or not.

The OP started with
"Hi i need a bit of advise on getting my own place"
And is being advised as to the best way to get one. If you feel given good advice is being smug then I feel sorry for you.

zenno

Twoandahalfmen wrote: »

Get a job and a mortgage and stop relying off the state.
Like the majority if people.

Like the majority if people ? If people what ?

The lad asks a simple question, and disgruntled folk pop in to talk crap :rolleyes:

The_Conductor

zenno wrote: »

What a very disgruntled person you are.

If you disagree with what someone else posts- refute the post, without attacking the poster. I'd also advise reading the forum charter- its got other rules, for your, and other poster's, benefit.

The_Conductor

zenno wrote: »

I can see this turning into a dole-bashing thread or similar. Time to hit the road that-away

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Good luck OP in finding a place, best of luck

You're right there.

People- if you have actual advice for the OP- feel free to impart it.
If you want to bash social welfare recipients- take it elsewhere.
Don't even think about it.
You have been warned.

zenno

Yeah, I slipped up on that one... attack the post, not the poster. My apologies.

dmcm_90

Ok thanks for the advise. I was put straight on to the list due to my anxiety dissorder. They dident even send any one out

fussyonion

A year waiting is nothing. If you're a single guy, you'll be waiting a LONG time for a council place; as someone else pointed out, there's very little stock of one-bed apartments.

If you have any medical conditions, you can ask your doctor for a letter stating your medical history and conditions and submit that to the council and they will probably put you on a priority list, depending on what's wrong with you.

I doubt if anxiety would be classed as a disability though.

dmcm_90

My doc gave me letter explaing it and with no questions asked ibgot put straight onto it

fussyonion

It's not getting on the list that's the problem, it's the waiting.
The majority of people in need of social housing will be accepted onto the list, but you will be waiting a long time....years and years.

Gatling

dmcm_90 wrote: »

My doc gave me letter explaing it and with no questions asked ibgot put straight onto it

Your needs are reviewed on a yearly basis ,
Again been a single bloke means you have next to no chance of been housed in the next 10+ years sad to say it

dmcm_90

Gatling wrote: »

Your needs a reviewed on a yearly basis ,
Again been a single bloke means you have next to no chance of been housed in the next 10+ years sad to say it

Say if I could pay 6months rent on a privet property. How would i got about getting rent allowence. (Id have to borrow )

fussyonion

You would then visit your local Community Welfare Officer to apply for Rent Allowance, bringing proof of your private renting.
I'm sure others here can advise you more on the procedure regarding applying for RA as it's been some time since I first applied.

Gatling

Basicly you have to rent an apartment and including paying your own deposit for 6 months ,then apply for rent assistance through your community welfare officer they will ask you to prove your housing need has been accessed and proved your in need of housing ,if that all go's to plan you then have to find a landlord that accepts rent allowance not as easy as it sounds ,
Been a single bloke you could be only be entitled to around 300e pm to which you have to pay something towards yourself ,

zenno

My understanding on this is..... Once you have received the letter from the council stating that your application was successful for housing and are on the housing list, then you can automatically receive rent allowance from the welfare office. (correct me if i am wrong, but i think this is the case).

And you do not need to pay 6 months rent yourself. I'm sure this is the case,but again, feel free to correct me if this is not the case nowadays.

zenno

It seems this is the case indeed...

Getting Rent Supplement

Rent Supplement will only be provided if the accommodation is suitable for your needs and the rent is below the maximum rent limit set for your county (see ‘Rates’ below for the current limits).

You may get Rent Supplement if you have been living for 6 months (183 days) out of the last 12 months in one, or a combination, of the following:

Accommodation for homeless people.
Private rented accommodation. You can combine time living in more than one rented accommodation to satisfy the 6 months (183 days). You must be able to show that you could afford the rent at the beginning of your tenancy and that you could have continued to pay rent but are unable to do so because of a change in your circumstances which occurred after you started renting.
An institution, for example, a hospital, care home or place of detention.

Or
Have been assessed by a local authority as being eligible for and in need of social housing in the last 12 months. If you don't have a housing need assessment, you must go to the local authority to have your housing need assessed. The local authority must be in the area that you intend to live and claim Rent Supplement. Only when you are assessed as eligible for and in need of housing can you apply for Rent Supplement.

Source: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/supplementary_welfare_schemes/rent_supplement.html

Gatling

You do have to rent by yourself for 6 months and then housing need be acessed this is how it now works ,remember you don't just put your name down and that's it ,the. Housings lists go through yearly reviews and you can be removed from the list if they feel you don't have an actual housing need

dmcm_90

Gatling wrote: »

You do have to rent by yourself for 6 months and then housing need be acessed this is how it now works ,remember you don't just put your name down and that's it ,the. Housings lists go through yearly reviews and you can be removed from the list if they feel you don't have an actual housing need

My doc and physiologist wrote a letter telling the counsel I am inI need of housing