Garda recruitment to restart (and they’re already expecting lots of applications)

goldie fish

Minister for Justice Alan Shatter said the process will begin later this year. RECRUITMENT TO AN Garda Siochána is set to recommence after being suspended for several years as part of the public sector hiring freeze.

Minister for Justice Alan Shatter made the announcement today as he addressed a graduation ceremony for Garda Reserve members.
Shatter said that he had received sanction from Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform Brendan Howlin to begin the recruitment process.
“It is very important for an organisation like An Garda Siochána, given the demanding nature of policing, to receive a reasonably regular intake of new recruits,” said Shatter.
He said that some preparatory work will have to be done before the recruitment process begins, but said he expects to see “a very large number of applications” when the process starts later this year.
The Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan said in May that he wanted to see recruitment begin again soon as the number of gardaí dipped below 13,000. One hundred garda station will have been closed down by the end of this year as part of a major cost-cutting exercise by the Department of Justice.

http://www.thejournal.ie/garda-recruitment-2-993683-Jul2013/?utm_source=facebook_short

yenom

Me v 27,000, bring it on.

annlewis

yenom wrote: »

Me v 27,000, bring it on.

Im on the panel but if I have to reapply I'm going to do it. So same as....
Me V 26, 999 !

pa990

Guys,

when they say that recruitment will start in 2014, that might mean that the whole process will start in 2014.
Stage 1: an advert in a newspaper

...... long drawn out process....

aptitude tests
(waiting lists)
Interviews
(waiting lists)
medicals
(waiting lists)
(waiting lists)
(waiting lists)
Templemore
training
training
training

A NEW CRAP CONTRACT for new entrants







sorry to rain on your parade

Canyon86

pa990 wrote: »

Guys,

when they say that recruitment will start in 2014, that might mean that the whole process will start in 2014.
Stage 1: an advert in a newspaper

...... long drawn out process....

aptitude tests
(waiting lists)
Interviews
(waiting lists)
medicals
(waiting lists)
(waiting lists)
(waiting lists)
Templemore
training
training
training

A NEW CRAP CONTRACT for new entrants







sorry to rain on your parade

Unfortunately Pa that will most likely be the reality of it..
However for some the job is more of calling and so any waiting will be hopefully worthwhile!:D

goldie fish

So that's a whole 3 years before there are actually any new gardai on the streets. he force will have ground to a halt by then though.

Canyon86

goldie fish wrote: »

So that's a whole 3 years before there are actually any new gardai on the streets. he force will have ground to a halt by then though.

Exactly!! If not longer,

I have a feeling that they will hire a significant number when they do recruit.

some of the
garda stations are seriously struggling for numbers etc

:eek:

Sierra Oscar

goldie fish wrote: »

So that's a whole 3 years before there are actually any new gardai on the streets. he force will have ground to a halt by then though.

Well for what it is worth the Minister has confirmed that the training plan for new entrants is to be altered, which will ensure that Garda recruits will be on the street within twelve months of entering Templemore.

Shatter: Government to reduce training time for new gardai

Justice Minister Alan Shatter said that gardai will be allowed begin policing after just 12 months training in Templemore, compared with 15 months at present.

thekopend

annlewis wrote: »

Im on the panel but if I have to reapply I'm going to do it. So same as....
Me V 26, 999 !

27,000 is just the number that has registered interest on public jobs at the moment, most of these people have registered since 2010 when the last campaigne was meant to start. what till the advertising takes off for this campaigne, there will be way more interest id say

Canyon86

thekopend wrote: »

27,000 is just the number that has registered interest on public jobs at the moment, most of these people have registered since 2010 when the last campaigne was meant to start. what till the advertising takes off for this campaigne, there will be way more interest id say

Correct kopend.. way way way more will apply eventhough irish abroad aswell.. lads in oz and that aswell:)

goldie fish

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Well for what it is worth the Minister has confirmed that the training plan for new entrants is to be altered, which will ensure that Garda recruits will be on the street within twelve months of entering Templemore.

Shatter: Government to reduce training time for new gardai

So do phase 3 and 5 as in-service so? We'll be back to 22 weeks total in no time.

Sierra Oscar

goldie fish wrote: »

So do phase 3 and 5 as in-service so? We'll be back to 22 weeks total in no time.

There won't even be five phases anymore by the looks of it, instead there will be three distinct phases. This is what was suggested in the 'Report on Training and Development in An Garda Síochána' which made its report way back in 2010. There will likely be some changes, but I would imagine much of the recommendations will be adopted. Even though new entrants may be still in training after 32 weeks in the college, once they are attested the government will just count them as Gardai active on the ground during Phase 2.

You can read the report here.

The key recommendations of the report are as follows:

• There should be a new training and development model put in place, with an Assistant Commissioner given sole responsibility for overseeing and implementing this;


• The training sections in the Garda College should be restructured;


• There should be a better training support structure across all garda operational divisions, with divisional training managers;


• There should be a standardised process within Garda Divisions that objectively prioritises training opportunities based on developing the right knowledge and skills;


• The student/probationer training programme should be radically restructured into 3 phases instead of the current 5. Phase I would be for 32 weeks at the Garda College, at the end of which successful students would be attested (i.e. become members of the Garda Síochána with full police powers). Currently students are attested after 58 weeks. Phase II would be for 65 weeks based in Garda stations, and Phase III would consist of 7 weeks of exam preparation, exams and assessments;


• Student training at the Garda College should be more scenario-based and less classroom-based, so as to prepare students better for the policing challenges they will face;


• There should be better support for students who, after attestation, are assigned to Garda stations, with new field-training tutors playing a key role;


• Driver training should be provided within the student/probationer training programme;


• A lifelong learning philosophy should be instilled in the Garda Síochána, with a suite of mandatory and elective courses made available;


• A learning management system should be introduced in the Garda Síochána, to manage the administration and oversight of training;


• Specialist training facilities, such as firearms ranges, driver training areas and a mock urban structure, should be developed on the grounds of Dromard House in Tipperary, already purchased for this purpose, as soon as possible;


• Training for civilian staff in the Garda Síochána should be integrated into the general training structure for members.

Canyon86

Do you reckon the requirements for driving will come into effect here so?

Tyron Jara

Canyon86 wrote: »

Do you reckon the requirements for driving will come into effect here so?

in one way i hope so as itl be better for new recruits in another way it is one of the most stressful tests in AGS

goldie fish

Both the driving and tactical recommendations were shelved due to cost issues.

3fullback

goldie fish wrote: »

Both the driving and tactical recommendations were shelved due to cost issues.

That's the excuse used, it's more to do with some rookie getting to a station and hoping into a car and driving and bucko who's been there for 10years still observing !

Canyon86

3fullback wrote: »

That's the excuse used, it's more to do with some rookie getting to a station and hoping into a car and driving and bucko who's been there for 10years still observing !

any offical link lads on this?

BluesAndThrees

Do you think it will work massively against me if I don't currently hold a full driving licence when I eventually apply? I currently have a provisional and am in the process of learning for the full one

Canyon86

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

Do you think it will work massively against me if I don't currently hold a full driving licence when I eventually apply? I currently have a provisional and am in the process of learning for the full one

I hope not BluesAndThrees as I am in the same situation,!!

Sierra Oscar

BluesAndThrees wrote: »

Do you think it will work massively against me if I don't currently hold a full driving licence when I eventually apply? I currently have a provisional and am in the process of learning for the full one

Either way, you will still have plenty of time between now and the eventual intake to get the full license sorted.

Canyon86

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Either way, you will still have plenty of time between now and the eventual intake to get the full license sorted.

Well said Sierra,

At least have 5months this year and probably a good part of next year before the campaign is officially launched!! (IF IT IS EVER LAUNCHED)!!!

I m starting lessons to pre test at the moment so thats what Im banking on!

What stage are you at re driving?

BluesAndThrees

Canyon86 wrote: »

Well said Sierra,

At least have 5months this year and probably a good part of next year before the campaign is officially launched!! (IF IT IS EVER LAUNCHED)!!!

I m starting lessons to pre test at the moment so thats what Im banking on!

What stage are you at re driving?

Cheers, boys! Just about getting behind the wheel at the minute. Operation become a model candidate is go!

S Barrett

Do you reckon serving Garda Reserves will have an advantage or will everybody be treated the same?

goldie fish

S Barrett wrote: »

Do you reckon serving Garda Reserves will have an advantage or will everybody be treated the same?

Huge advantage.

Think of it. You apply saying "I always wanted to be a Garda". Interview board say "prove it". The guys and gals who spent the last few years while waiting for recruitment to re-commence in the reserve will be a lot better off than those who spent it on internet message boards asking "when".

Also, reservists will have a greater understanding of the job requirements when it comes to the job simulation exercise, report writing etc.

carzony

goldie fish wrote: »

Huge advantage.

Think of it. You apply saying "I always wanted to be a Garda". Interview board say "prove it". The guys and gals who spent the last few years while waiting for recruitment to re-commence in the reserve will be a lot better off than those who spent it on internet message boards asking "when".

Also, reservists will have a greater understanding of the job requirements when it comes to the job simulation exercise, report writing etc.

I agree, It's common sense that they will have a big advantage towards 'regular' applicants. I suppose if people didn't make full time, it'll leave loads of room for new reserves:D:D

Raider190

carzony wrote: »

I agree, It's common sense that they will have a big advantage towards 'regular' applicants. I suppose if people didn't make full time, it'll leave loads of room for new reserves:D:D

Since the Reserve come online it has generated future full time garda. There are quite a number of full timers in the DMR who commenced their policing career as a Reserve. Currently there are 1200 approx Reserves and at least 75% of these are within the 18 to 35 age bracket so thats 900 individuals who have somewhere between 1 year to 6 years frontline policing experience prior to registering their interest in the selection process. The advantage is obvious and it is bound to be a key point of discussion at an interview stage. Remember one of the panel will be a serving senior Garda Officer and if you have a clear understanding of what the job entails both positives and negatives it can be only make an impression on the interviewers

carzony

Raider190 wrote: »

Since the Reserve come online it has generated future full time garda. There are quite a number of full timers in the DMR who commenced their policing career as a Reserve. Currently there are 1200 approx Reserves and at least 75% of these are within the 18 to 35 age bracket so thats 900 individuals who have somewhere between 1 year to 6 years frontline policing experience prior to registering their interest in the selection process. The advantage is obvious and it is bound to be a key point of discussion at an interview stage. Remember one of the panel will be a serving senior Garda Officer and if you have a clear understanding of what the job entails both positives and negatives it can be only make an impression on the interviewers

Sure they've near enough worked for free and with a lot of garda only starting to accept the reserves, it's a brave step for anyone walking into a garda station as a reserve.

Everyone keeps talking about 'good connections' sure most reserves would be good mates with Gardaí/sergeant/super in their stations:). I know a lot of people don't have time to join the reserves but the truth is they will find it easier to get a full time position.

I'm sure if the panel was scrapped anyone reapplying would find it that bit easier aswell and right fully so. I feel they really got screwed over

Grab All Association

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2013/0221/368848-garda-college-templemore-opens-1964/

I hope the god they stopped these exercises. I wouldn't want to smell the other guys ass xD

It's about ******* time they are recruiting again though. The town has seen a number of business close down which at the time of recruitment were booming.

Good luck to all those applying

redsurfer

http://www.tippfm.com/news/detail/garda_recruitment_to_begin_in_september

Canyon86

redsurfer wrote: »

http://www.tippfm.com/news/detail/garda_recruitment_to_begin_in_september

nice one surfer!

Canyon86

Canyon86 wrote: »

nice one surfer!

How come its not all over the news etc???

blueforce

So its officially official, is anyone going to do any of the prep courses?

Canyon86

blueforce wrote: »

So its officially official, is anyone going to do any of the prep courses?

Ya i ll do as many as i financially able lol,

are you?

Raider190

It has been a long time but it will eventually happen and the additional powers will be rolled out. As we were all told in the college 99% of policing is common sense and it will be expected that you will apply the same logical approach to the use of the additional powers.

In my experience it is always the full time member who will make the arrest but if the incident warrants a second person or third person been arrested then it will be up to you.

Remember no one can instruct you to make the arrest you will have to make the decision alone and then stand over that action........so think before you act and remember your training and dont be afraid to seek the advice of your more experienced colleagues ( they have been that soldier and will steer you in the best direction)

thekopend

Raider190 wrote: »

It has been a long time but it will eventually happen and the additional powers will be rolled out. As we were all told in the college 99% of policing is common sense and it will be expected that you will apply the same logical approach to the use of the additional powers.

In my experience it is always the full time member who will make the arrest but if the incident warrants a second person or third person been arrested then it will be up to you.

Remember no one can instruct you to make the arrest you will have to make the decision alone and then stand over that action........so think before you act and remember your training and dont be afraid to seek the advice of your more experienced colleagues ( they have been that soldier and will steer you in the best direction)

Think your in the wrong thread mate, this should be in reserve forum.

Rightwing

I think they should be cutting gardai numbers, the country is bust.

thekopend

Rightwing wrote: »

I think they should be cutting gardai numbers, the country is bust.

Your in the wrong place too!

Rightwing

thekopend wrote: »

Your in the wrong place too!

No doubt.

Good luck to anyone applying, it's a good job, especially in the summer when checking for road tax etc :pac:

annlewis

redsurfer wrote: »

http://www.tippfm.com/news/detail/garda_recruitment_to_begin_in_september

Well folks.. this looks well promising. September Open day shortly I'd imagine. Very exciting

Canyon86

goldie fish wrote: »

Both the driving and tactical recommendations were shelved due to cost issues.

Any link for this Goldie,? where did ya hear it?

Citycap

S Barrett wrote: »

Do you reckon serving Garda Reserves will have an advantage or will everybody be treated the same?

I understand (but open to correction) that membership of the Reserves gives a candidate an actual percentage advantage with the Interview Board.
It does stand to reason that it would be advantage as long as the Reserve was making a good impression with the local supervisors. They are bound to be asked their opinion on his/her suitability.

At an interview what is a good answer to the following question,
"While you say that you always wanted to be a Garda you didn't apply to become a Garda Reserve, Why not?"

Not much point saying "Can I phone a friend"

yenom

If I don't get in this time I'll join the reserves.

Tyron Jara

yenom wrote: »

If I don't get in this time I'll join the reserves.

why havent you joined already?

yenom

Tyron Jara wrote: »

why havent you joined already?

I didn't have the time for it, nor the money and I had no means of transport to get anywhere.

fiverfriday

yenom wrote: »

I didn't have the time for it, nor the money and I had no means of transport to get anywhere.

You DIDN'T have the time or money, or transport... Do you now have time & transport? If so, apply.

angrykoala

anybody who is serious about applying for selection needs to apply for the reserves today before this campaign starts. no point turning up at interview and saying you thought about it. no excuses. by the time your reserve application is processed this recruitment campaign will be well underway. if your in interview you can say you applied if nothing else.

Sierra Oscar

angrykoala wrote: »

anybody who is serious about applying for selection needs to apply for the reserves today before this campaign starts.

Work I currently do means I cannot join the reserves (for legal reasons), would be the same for others I would imagine. At the end of the day I cannot give up a full time job to join the reserves, so I am hoping that would be taken into account if I went for it down the line.

If I could join I definitely would though, it can only stand to benefit your application by having the experience. Plenty of other community and voluntary experience under the belt going back years though.

Canyon86

Rightwing wrote: »

I think they should be cutting gardai numbers, the country is bust.

I personally cant wait for this new campaign,

i know I am up against it with the vast number of applicants applying,

but nonetheless It will be a great experience at least!!

currently working hard to upskill and get proper fit

Tyron Jara

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Work I currently do means I cannot join the reserves (for legal reasons), would be the same for others I would imagine. At the end of the day I cannot give up a full time job to join the reserves, so I am hoping that would be taken into account if I went for it down the line.

If I could join I definitely would though, it can only stand to benefit your application by having the experience. Plenty of other community and voluntary experience under the belt going back years though.

I personally think thats a valid reason and I think that would be taken into account. Much better than the don't have time reason. I have to make the time myself to do it so for me the dont have time remark doesnt wash.

Grab All Association

angrykoala wrote: »

anybody who is serious about applying for selection needs to apply for the reserves today before this campaign starts. no point turning up at interview and saying you thought about it. no excuses. by the time your reserve application is processed this recruitment campaign will be well underway. if your in interview you can say you applied if nothing else.

They could turn around though and say "ah sure he/she applied to join the reserves if we say no to the application they will still work for free in the reserves"

Stay away from any sort of voluntary work. If you ain't successful reapply the next year. Remember you will finish training with a reduced pay and increased working hours in these new contracts.

Ladymuck Thesecond

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/SP13000310

I'm sure someone has already posted this link, haven't had time to go through it properly yet, but I said I'd stick it up anyway!