Tyson gay/ Asafa Powell fail dope test *MOD NOTE #22

mistermano

http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2013/07/14/tyson-gay-tests-positive-for-banned-substance

RandyMann

mistermano wrote: »

http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2013/07/14/tyson-gay-tests-positive-for-banned-substance

I'm really disappointed with this news, he is one of my idols..

mistermano

he was too good to be true unfortunately

brandon_flowers

It'll be interesting to see who the person is that he "put his trust in" because at that level in the US agents, doctors and coaches cover many many top athletes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/14/tyson-gay-tests-positive-banned-substance?CMP=twt_gu

RandyMann

I honestly thought that he would be the last person who would do that as he comes across as an honest, good guy...

average_runner

Sad this considering he was in project believe

mistermano

uh oh..........
https://twitter.com/AndreLowe_media


At least three Jamaicans including two Olympic gold medallist have tested positive according to sources. This follows Tyson Gay's positive

brandon_flowers

Is Veronica Campbell Brown already included in that I wonder?

She was also Gay's training partner.

BeepBeep67

Disappointed and glad at the same time, if that's possible.

mistermano

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/latest/article.php?id=46469

ecoli

brandon_flowers wrote: »

Is Veronica Campbell Brown already included in that I wonder?

She was also Gay's training partner.

No she is not she left the group 4 years ago. Trains at same facilities but as far as is reported has been bouncing around coaches since

mistermano

"The two sprinters are Olympic gold medallists"
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/latest/article.php?id=46469

Talib Fiasco

Very sad to hear. Have always been a massive fan of him and prayed he'd beat Bolt in the Olympics...very interesting time for sprinting though...I thought those days were behind the sport but this could uproot everything...at least Gay was probably clean when he had his best moments...

woodchopper

TheComeUp wrote: »

at least Gay was probably clean when he had his best moments...

He came forth in the Olympic final last year. So how does he get to the gold medal level at age 30?

backgreen

brandon_flowers wrote: »

Is Veronica Campbell Brown already included in that I wonder?

She was also Gay's training partner.

was jason smyth also a training partner?

Talib Fiasco

woodchopper wrote: »

He came forth in the Olympic final last year. So how does he get to the gold medal level at age 30?

With the second fastest time in history, anything is possible...this just ruined it...I always felt/thought he was an honest athlete who did absolutely everything to make himself better...

walshb

mistermano wrote: »

he was too good to be true unfortunately

When I posted about Gay running a 9.78 secs last week it was on my mind to question this sudden return to form. Not allowed on the forum. For a guy who was injured a fair bit, sliding and losing to Gatlin and Blake, to sudenly be posting sub 9.8s.

ABajaninCork

Tyson, bwoy. Yuh let me down - BIG TIME!!! :mad:

Mr Pseudonym

backgreen wrote: »

was jason smyth also a training partner?

He'll claim that he saw nothing.

brandon_flowers

I think he is still honest about it, no bull**** sabotage story (yet) like my tootpaste was spiked, my steak was tainted etc. It seems he was given a supplement in good faith by one of his team and it busted him.

I remember watching a docu about Maurice Greene back in the day and he was about to name all the supplements when his manager/agent cut him off and made up some excuse about copyright.

But in the cold light of day the 100m is the dirtiest race of all, worse than any TdF or anything else. Even with Dasaolu's new time it is being compared as the second fastest time by a Brit even though the fastest time was posted by a cheat over 20 years ago.

A P

The last paragraph of this article says it all unfortunately:

http://www.chrisharrisonwriting.com/journalism/_3/
"I watch sport, but I watch it like it's a show," he says. "I watch the Olympic Games but I don't bother to remember the names of the athletes anymore. It's like theatre - but I prefer the theatre because the relationship between actor and spectator is clear. In sport's theatre, both are still pretending it's real."

ecoli

Mod: Before anyone attempts to post the Jamaican names which are currently being reported remember charter rules regarding supplying a link otherwise it is just speculation

mistermano

one biggish name
2 lesser names

rainbowdash

RandyMann wrote: »

I'm really disappointed with this news, he is one of my idols..

All I know is this. I know somebody, typical pillar of the community, then one day in broad daylight, I was driving along and saw them, on a quiet local road, with car boot open, unloading sacks of rubbish along the Side of the road.

The simple reality is we don't know what our neighbours are at, never mind complete strangers.

walshb

As far as I'm concerned the Jamaican's are always going to be heavily suspected. Until they are in line with many other countries then that will be the case.

woodchopper

Telegraph Sport are running the story on their twitter page if anyone cares

mistermano

https://twitter.com/TelegraphSport

POWELL SIMPSON CARTER

walshb

It's a shame really. These guys are special athletes. Super human sprinters. Sometimes there are genuine innocent cases where an athlete is let down by someone. Also, some sybstances and drugs are different than others. But, it's up to the athlete to know what is going into his/her body. Trust or not!

mistermano

think it could be a supplement?

ecoli

mistermano wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TelegraphSport

POWELL SIMPSON CARTER

This was the DNS from madrid referred to in the gleaner article it looks like

mistermano

yes

ecoli

Powells management team confirm it to Press association sport

ABajaninCork

WHAAAATT??? OH HELL NO!!! Usain Bolt had better be clean...

Pherekydes

Jasus, at the rate the top stars are dropping Dwain Chambers will start favourite in Moscow. :pac:

ecoli

ABajaninCork wrote: »

WHAAAATT??? OH HELL NO!!! Usain Bolt had better be clean...

Public statement already came out saying he was not one of the athletes

ABajaninCork

Pherekydes wrote: »

Jasus, at the rate the top stars are dropping Dwain Chambers James Dasaolu will start favourite in Moscow. :pac:

FYP

mistermano

Pherekydes wrote: »

Jasus, at the rate the top stars are dropping Dwain Chambers will start favourite in Moscow. :pac:

or gatlin:D

mistermano

ABajaninCork wrote: »

WHAAAATT??? OH HELL NO!!! Usain Bolt had better be clean...

he's clean

rest assured.........

mistermano

the really top athletes are clean

it's only the lesser athletes that dope to try and reach that level


:D:D:D:D:D

MD1990

can't believe Gay tested positive
he would have been the last sprinter i would have expected to test positive

The Pheasant2

This kind of thing really annoys me. By doping, these athletes are tarnishing the sport irreparably - considering someone as clean as Gay has been found out, this casts a shadow of doubt over the truly exceptional athletes that work so hard to achieve their results.

Talib Fiasco

Jesus this is unbelievable...Powell and Gay...shame shame shame.

Edit: From Powell's twitter
http://twitpic.com/d2nve5

Tom_Cruise

Bolt can be seen as an even bigger talent now.

mistermano

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Bolt can be seen as an even bigger talent now.

ya he's crushing dopers

and doin it clean........

Tom_Cruise

mistermano wrote: »

ya he's crushing dopers

and doin it clean........

Exactly.

Kurt Godel

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

This kind of thing really annoys me. By doping, these athletes are tarnishing the sport irreparably - considering someone as clean as Gay has been found out, this casts a shadow of doubt over the truly exceptional athletes that work so hard to achieve their results.

They don't care about the sport. By doping, these athlete's are making 100's of thousands (millions in some cases) by being able to compete at the highest level. There's no point in being blinkered, top-class athletics is as pharma-enhanced as cycling, swimming, or any other individual sport where money is a reward. (That's not speculation, as an ever-increasing number of doping cases testify). Maybe on a lesser stage competition for its own reward is still king, but you can decide for yourself where the shadow lies on who is "truely exceptional". Far too many erstwhile clean heroes over the years have taken the pharma route (Carl Lewis, Saïd Aouita, Merlene Ottey,...).

Maybe the (technical) jump events are still clean, but as for explosive or endurance events... just look at the evidence.

walshb

Kurt Godel wrote: »

They don't care about the sport. By doping, these athlete's are making 100's of thousands (millions in some cases) by being able to compete at the highest level. There's no point in being blinkered, top-class athletics is as pharma-enhanced as cycling, swimming, or any other individual sport where money is a reward. (That's not speculation, as an ever-increasing number of doping cases testify). Maybe on a lesser stage competition for its own reward is still king, but you can decide for yourself where the shadow lies on who is "truely exceptional". Far too many erstwhile clean heroes over the years have taken the pharma route (Carl Lewis, Saïd Aouita, Merlene Ottey,...).

Maybe the (technical) jump events are still clean, but as for explosive or endurance events... just look at the evidence.

The jump events are very explosive. As for Lewis, what "PED" did he test positive for?

buyer95

Every man who has ran sub 9:80 for 100m have failed drug tests apart from Usain Bolt and Maurice Greene!!

brandon_flowers

walshb wrote: »

The jump events are very explosive. As for Lewis, what "PED" did he test positive for?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/apr/24/athletics.duncanmackay

ecoli

walshb wrote: »

As for Lewis, what "PED" did he test positive for?

pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, and phenylpropanolamine

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2003/apr/24/athletics.duncanmackay

Grandpa Hassan

All we need now is for Gatlin to win in Moscow, which is quite possible, for the sport to lose even more credibility