Welfare payment for debs abolished ?

Albert X

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

Chancer3001

ah thats a pity.

Thought shed have got more because the country has more money these days.

Toto Wolfcastle

They probably realised how ridiculous it was to be giving money for a debs.

Shanotheslayer

Cause us taxpayers don't want to pay for 18 year olds to get drunk.

robman60

I don't know, but a "welfare" payment to go to the debs reeks of boom madness.

Gatling

Absolutely delighted about time too

irritablebaz

cutbacks i would imagine or more likely not being in with the sw officer. thats how things work, right?

keelanj69

First they take cancer patients medical cards. Now Debs allowance. Nothing but bástards in government.

snubbleste

Tell your neighbour that her daughter's human rights have been breached.

jonny d

Albert X wrote: »

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

Damn right not to get anything!! Bloody scroungers!

SteM

Albert X wrote: »

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

You should be asking "Why was she given 200 euros 2 years ago?"

What a crazy country we live in.

AK333

Cos they shouldn't have been giving it out in the first place - FFS pay for your child's own fake tan, fake hair extensions, fake nails, ........

mattjack

Albert X wrote: »

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

Is there any chance your neighbour might register with Boards , come into AH and discuss it with us ?

MJ23

First I heard of it. Ridiculous.
It's worse that the wans getting the handout for the holy communion.
No wonder the country is the way it is.

Scroungers and layabouts getting everything handed to them.

joebloggs32

Would somebody please think of the children!

Peregrine

Albert X wrote: »

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

Because it was ludicrous for the taxpayer to pay for people's debs?


Seriously, do people think welfare payment is reward system where the state pays you for every single thing you do?

HurtLocker

*Sigh*
It seems this country is divided loosely in terms of people who pay for everything they do and consume and people who think they are entitled to the same lifestyle for free on other people's taxes

Tell you neighbour to shut up or save up.

SteM

Payment for sons but none for the daughter - the cwo must be sexist! Get on to Joe!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Is this a joke, does such a payment exist? The OP has to be playing around.

Ten of Swords

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Is this a joke, does such a payment exist? The OP has to be playing around.

Apparently not a joke, if this thread is to be believed
http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/163180-debs.html

Gatling

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Is this a joke, does such a payment exist? The OP has to be playing around.

It did exist , I remember a radio show talking to a woman who went to her cwo twice first time for money for her daughters debs dress and then then the 2nd time for a payment for lingerie to go under said debs dress ,when questioned why she went to the cwo her reply "I'm only getting what I'm entitled to"

GHOST MGG

sorry was too busy working my arse off to have a debs...

Celly Smunt

HurtLocker wrote: »

*Sigh*
It seems this country is divided loosely in terms of people who pay for everything they do and consume and people who think they are entitled to the same lifestyle for free on other people's taxes

Tell you neighbour to shut up or save up.

Ever heard of divide and conquer politics?,well that's what's happening in Ireland now.Seperate people into groups,stem the risk of uprising/protest.

questionmark?

I'm shocked that this payment existed in the first place. Seriously wtf!! :mad:

kingcobra

This 'neighbour' is you yourself OP isn't it?

Napper Hawkins

The only thing that shocks me is that people seem to be consistently shocked at the way this country is run and the nonsense that is tolerated, day in, day out. Seriously, do some of ye only stick your heads out from underneath your rocks on a yearly basis or is even that asking too much?

Doom

Delighted with this but of common sense....and for posting this in After Hours.....ha ha ha ha....haaaaaaaa......

Ace Attorney

SteM

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Ever heard of divide and conquer politics?,well that's what's happening in Ireland now.Seperate people into groups,stem the risk of uprising/protest.

I get where you're coming from and I'd agree with you if were talking about an education payment or a medial payment but this a DEBS payment. This particular issue is not a case of divide and conquer politics - this is actually a case of a sensible austerity measure.

delthedriver

this must be a joke?

Really a SW payment for a Debs? Surely not?;)

nino1

Albert X wrote: »

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

I'd say the neighbour is yourself isn't it?

I'd love to hear what your own opinion is about this payment not being available anymore?

Cunning Stunt

I never knew that it existed either - what a joke! I wonder what other ridiculous payments are being made by the social...is there a list somewhere ?

Peregrine

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

I never knew that it existed either - what a joke! I wonder what other ridiculous payments are being made by the social...is there a list somewhere ?

Well there's the communion dress payment.

Do they still do that?

shruikan2553

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Well there's the communion dress payment.

Do they still do that?

No, its been gotten rid of. Threads in atheism and Christianity forums.

The reasoning behind such things tends to be along the lines of "sure other people are doing it, they cant be left out just because they have less money. They need limos, helicopters and huge parties to keep up"

Sir Oxman

Some people are very gullible - CWO payments are discretionary, IF there is a smidgin of truth in the OP (I doubt it), it would be discretionary and therefore there is no 'Debs payment'
IF the CWO paid out for that, he/she should be sacked.

Chucken

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Apparently not a joke, if this thread is to be believed
http://www.politics.ie/forum/culture-community/163180-debs.html

Theres nothing in that link to prove anything. Another "my neighbour" got a payment blah blah blah. I call shenanigans.

TwoShedsJackson

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Well there's the communion dress payment.

Do they still do that?

It's the same payment - you claim 'exceptional needs/expenditure', and they may or may not pay out (until it was abolished).

Gatling

Of course its lies



Really

Really

The Narrator

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Cause us taxpayers don't want to pay for 18 year olds to get drunk.

We do, but that is called the dole.

Gatling

The Narrator wrote: »

We do, but that is called the dole.

Some Mammy's still get there children's allowence for 22 year olds

AlekSmart

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Ever heard of divide and conquer politics?,well that's what's happening in Ireland now.Seperate people into groups,stem the risk of uprising/protest.

In all honesty Celly,theres little dividing to be done,and as for conquering...forget it.

All we are seeing now is the belated arrival of commonsense to a country with a strong aversion to it.

It could well be said that when Walt Disney decided to set up in Europe,he really should have chosen Ireland rather than France,as he would have had little or no set-up costs to create his Magic Kingdom.....

Right now the only oppression being meted out is to the dwindling group of productively inclined people who continue to try the "Working for a Living" route,and it's becoming a far harder road to travel,when one looks at how the Taxes levied upon this group is being disbursed.

I have found the Annual Statistical Reports of the DSP to be hugely educational in so many different ways and would recommend them to those requiring a good Nightime Read...

Here's 2011's.....

http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/2011stats.pdf

The Debs Dancing would come under the heading of Supplementary Welfare Allowance-Exceptional Needs Payments,Other Exceptional Welfare Allowance Payments and Urgent Needs Payments.


Page 47 Section C17 is where it gets suitably indistinct.....;)

General:

Other
3,665

Travel Costs
2,196

Insufficient Means
2,595

Heating
1,301

Lost/Stolen Money
145

Household Budget
144

Total : 10,045

This is in 000's of € BTW,so the 2011 "General" total was €10,045,000 (Plus "Urgent Needs Payments of €190,000)

The beauty of it is that one will struggle to find Debutante's Ball's mentioned at all,but the term "Other" can cover whatever you want it to....;)

Gatling

AlekSmart wrote: »

In all honesty Celly,theres little dividing to be done,and as for conquering...forget it.

All we are seeing now is the belated arrival of commonsense to a country with a strong aversion to it.

It could well be said that when Walt Disney decided to set up in Europe,he really should have chosen Ireland rather than France,as he would have had little or no set-up costs to create his Magic Kingdom.....

Right now the only oppression being meted out is to the dwindling group of productively inclined people who continue to try the "Working for a Living" route,and it's becoming a far harder road to travel,when one looks at how the Taxes levied upon this group is being disbursed.

I have found the Annual Statistical Reports of the DSP to be hugely educational in so many different ways and would recommend them to those requiring a good Nightime Read...

Here's 2011's.....

http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/2011stats.pdf

The Debs Dancing would come under the heading of Supplementary Welfare Allowance-Exceptional Needs Payments,Other Exceptional Welfare Allowance Payments and Urgent Needs Payments.


Page 47 Section C17 is where it gets suitably indistinct.....;)



This is in 000's of € BTW,so the 2011 "General" total was €10,045,000 (Plus "Urgent Needs Payments of €190,000)

The beauty of it is that one will struggle to find Debutante's Ball's mentioned at all,but the term "Other" can cover whatever you want it to....;)

"OTHER " the famous welfare stat that gets no explanation

SHOVELLER

Payments come under the discretion of the CWO.

These offices should be closed.

AlekSmart

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Payments come under the discretion of the CWO.

These offices should be closed.

If we did have a Speakers Corner in our wee Democratic State,I'd certainly turn up to see how that speech would go down....;)

HurtLocker

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Ever heard of divide and conquer politics?,well that's what's happening in Ireland now.Seperate people into groups,stem the risk of uprising/protest.

There is a divide and conquer in Ireland but I dont believe this is the case. Its more the recognition of a part of society which feels overly entitled.

My old school last year couldn't afford to turn on the heating most the time or fix dampness in the ceiling. Its a bit of a joke if people are being given free money for completely discretionary expenditure. The Government wants to stop giving public money i.e medical cards to non terminal cancer patients. Giving money purely to rent a suit and buy drink is a joke and makes a joke of all the extra tax people are paying and the cuts in service return they get back.

When I want something discretionary the state never helps me. I have to either plan in advance and save up or go without :mad:. It's quite simple.

suicide_circus

if true, that SW officer should be sacked. but as they are a state employee, this kind of gross incompetence would probably see them promoted.

Mardy Bum

Under a certain income people receive a hell of a lot of welfare.Any family that has two kids of college going age and any other kids in schooling are under as much financial strain as most people receiving benefits. This debs payment was a joke.

take everything

Not bad OP.
6/10

rusheen

Albert X wrote: »

2 years ago my neighbour got 200 euros of the cwo for her sons debs, This year her daughter is having the debs but the same cwo refused to give her a payment for it. Why is this ?

OMG , e200 for debs

PizzamanIRL

I wonder how many of you complaining about the payment would actually say no to a free 200 euro if you had the option.

Good work though OP, you know how to get after hours annoyed.

TheLastMohican

200 squids, new dress, your choice of fella, getting drunk and losing your cherry! Like something out of The Great Gatsby.