Dog left in car

DonnaDarko09

Hi,

A neighbouring work employee has just left their small dog in their car. I'm not sure if she is planning on keeping the dog in there all day as I overheard her telling the dog she would not be long and she told work colleagues she planned on bringing the dog for a walk at lunch time. Just wondering how long is ok to keep a dog locked in a car on a day like today?!:mad::eek:

JustAThought

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Hi,

A neighbouring work employee has just left their small dog in their car. I'm not sure if she is planning on keeping the dog in there all day as I overheard her telling the dog she would not be long and she told work colleagues she planned on bringing the dog for a walk at lunch time. Just wondering how long is ok to keep a dog locked in a car on a day like today?!:mad::eek:

Not long. It's a furnace in mine - even for sausages my dog would not get into it yesterday - the steering wheel was red hot when I eventually coaxed ( lifted) her in after 20 minutes of procrastinating with the booth and all 4 doors open . Should tell her not to - tell her to hide it under her desk instead.

Bullseye1

If she started at 9.00 and lunch is at 13.00 that is far too long in this heat. I would point out to her that dogs are dying in cars daily at present. Leave the dog at home with plenty of water or leave in a doggie day center.

SillyMangoX

It's not okay at all for any length of time! That car is going to be like an oven on a day like today, even with a window left open. Try and find the owner and tell her she needs to get the dog out now!

JustAThought

There was a YouTube video posted recently with an American vet who locked himself into the car in a hot day in the shade with the windows ajar for 20 minutes -the thermostat went up to 40'c . dogs can't sweat so they just keep getting hitter & hitter until they overheat , get sick, pass out and die : (

Tell her to take it out - even tied to a bush in the shade with a bowl of water is kinder.

OldNotWIse

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Hi,

A neighbouring work employee has just left their small dog in their car. I'm not sure if she is planning on keeping the dog in there all day as I overheard her telling the dog she would not be long and she told work colleagues she planned on bringing the dog for a walk at lunch time. Just wondering how long is ok to keep a dog locked in a car on a day like today?!:mad::eek:

That dog is at risk of dying if left there. You should report her. I wouldnt even leave mine for 5 minutes.

mr lee

im boiling up in my house with just shorts on,that dog is in serious danger

diarmuid05

JustAThought wrote: »

There was a YouTube video posted recently with an American vet who locked himself into the car in a hot day in the shade with the windows ajar for 20 minutes -the thermostat went up to 40'c . dogs can't sweat so they just keep getting hitter & hitter until they overheat , get sick, pass out and die : (

bumper234

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Hi,

A neighbouring work employee has just left their small dog in their car. I'm not sure if she is planning on keeping the dog in there all day as I overheard her telling the dog she would not be long and she told work colleagues she planned on bringing the dog for a walk at lunch time. Just wondering how long is ok to keep a dog locked in a car on a day like today?!:mad::eek:

If you know the person then tell her to get the dog out of the car now. Tell her if you see the dog locked in like that again you will call the ISPCA and have the dog rescued, If she refuses to do this then go to car, smash the window to get the dog out then call the ISPCA :mad:

mitosis

Is the car in the sun, or in the shade?

Are the windows open?

Does the dog have access to water in the car?

In the OP you don't say, but if, for example, the car is parked in the shade with the windows open, the dog won't cook.

carav10

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Hi,

A neighbouring work employee has just left their small dog in their car. I'm not sure if she is planning on keeping the dog in there all day as I overheard her telling the dog she would not be long and she told work colleagues she planned on bringing the dog for a walk at lunch time. Just wondering how long is ok to keep a dog locked in a car on a day like today?!:mad::eek:

First question, is the car parked in the shade?
Are the windows fully open?
Is the boot open?
Is there a reflective sunshade in the windows?
Is there a cooling fan in the car? (that clips onto a crate)
Has the dog water?
Is the dog obviously panting? (Barking is not enough of an indicator of stress) On a day like this I'd be surprised if not.

If the answer to any of these is no (apart from panting!), then the dog should not be in with her today. Any other day on a cool day, no problem (provided there's a good reason to bring the dog in, e.g. working dog etc, not bringing a general pet in with them just for the fun of it).

wexie

don't tell her anything, break the car window, get the dog out and ring the ISPCA. That woman clearly isn't responsible enough to be in charge of a dog.

Weather like this if you're not in the car yourself then the dog shouldn't be either.

carav10

wexie wrote: »

don't tell her anything, break the car window, get the dog out and ring the ISPCA. That woman clearly isn't responsible enough to be in charge of a dog.

Weather like this if you're not in the car yourself then the dog shouldn't be either.

And don't go breaking the car window, you'll be done for criminal damage especially if the dog is not actually in distress. If the dog is in distress and she's not dealing with it or bringing him home, you have the option to call the Gardai and they'll deal with it.

DonnaDarko09

The car is in the shade and the window is open...I don't know the person at all...just overheard and know she works next door to where I live. This places me in an awkward position as she is an employee of my landlord...she just came out to check on the dog so the next time she is out I will offer her to leave the dog in my house for the day

carav10

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

The car is in the shade and the window is open...I don't know the person at all...just overheard and know she works next door to where I live. This places me in an awkward position as she is an employee of my landlord...she just came out to check on the dog so the next time she is out I will offer her to leave the dog in my house for the day

All windows open? or just one open a crack?
It is an awkward one, and you need to be absolutely certain that the dog is actually in distress before saying anything rather than assuming the dog is in distress just because it's in the car.
If she's happy the car is cool and will be kept cool and the dog is not showing any signs of distress, then I'd leave it to her judgement if she's checking on the temp regularly. If the dog is not in distress, then I'd keep a discrete eye on the situation.

andreac

Please please do something about this now!! There has been several incidents of dogs dying in cars over the last few days!!!

jkwxez12yrdgbq

This is very dangerous for the dog. Even with the window open and the car in the shade, the dog is at risk of overheating. We have had several dogs brought into us in the last few days suffering from heat stroke and dehydration as a result of them being out in the heat for too long. She will need to take the dog out of her car and provide it with plenty of fresh water and a small amount of food.

DonnaDarko09

Spoke to her work colleagues who assured me the dog is fine, has water, windows are open and air con is on...the worker will only be another hour so the dog wont be in the car all day

cocker5

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Spoke to her work colleagues who assured me the dog is fine, has water, windows are open and air con is on...the worker will only be another hour so the dog wont be in the car all day

Sorry but the air con wont work unless she has left her car running all day which i suspect isnt the case... plus air con wont work with the window open...

Personally I would call the ISPCA

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

jkwxez12yrdgbq

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Spoke to her work colleagues who assured me the dog is fine, has water, windows are open and air con is on...the worker will only be another hour so the dog wont be in the car all day

In this heat, even ten minutes is too long to leave the dog alone in the car. As previous poster said, air con won't work if the window is open and/or if the car is not running. Please advise her to bring her dog to a vet for a health check as she may not instantly recognise some symptoms of dehydration or stress.

Pretzill

Thanks to tips from posters here I got my dog to the vet yesterday with all windows down and damp towels for her and me in the back of the car. Granted she wasnt well but even in a moving vehicle for 20 mins she was still panting. I couldnt wait to get her into the air again - this heat will kill a dog in a stationery car - I hope her pet is ok, it's 28c here at the moment.

DonnaDarko09

I can't really do anymore...I have voiced my concern and have offered my house to leave the dog but if she wants to leave her dog in the car that is her choice. I will not call the ISPCA as I do not want to create a scene when her boss is my landlord!?

tatli_lokma

Sorry, but you are concerned enough to post on here, but not concerned enough to 'create a scene'?? how will you feel if the dog ends up dead or seriously ill?? If it were me, and the window was open I would just stick my hand in, open the door, take the dog out and leave her a note telling her the dog is in your home. When she comes to collect the dog tell her that if you see the dog left in the car again for hours or in this heat you will be phoning the ISPCA. I don't know how you can stand by and let the poor dog cook in a furnace! Sit in a car yourself for 20 mins, even with the windows open and see how it feels!

anniehoo

`Fair play OP you're doing all you can. Do you know what breed the dog is? Shorter nosed dogs e.g pugs/boxers etc will have a much harder time keeping cool. As mentioned above i dont know how the air con is working if the car is turned off.

True story, 2 years ago a guy left his 2 Dogue de Bordeauxs in his car (windows slightly ajar) on a hot day. He came back to 2 dead dogs 20mins later after both dying from heat induced heart failure.

DonnaDarko09

Ok she took the dog for a walk and she has now left the office for the day (with the dog)...I will keep an eye out tomorrow as I think the weather is forecast to be good all week, and if she brings the dog and leaves him there again I will make her aware of the dangers and advise she leaves the dog with me in my house or else tied on a leash in the shade (she is parked in a secure parking lot). Thanks all for your advise.

endacl

anniehoo wrote: »

`Fair play OP you're doing all you can. Do you know what breed the dog is? Shorter nosed dogs e.g pugs/boxers etc will have a much harder time keeping cool. As mentioned above i dont know how the air con is working if the car is turned off.

True story, 2 years ago a guy left his 2 Dogue de Bordeauxs in his car (windows slightly ajar) on a hot day. He came back to 2 dead dogs 20mins later after both dying from heat induced heart failure.

True. Ex's sister came back to a comatose terrier after 15 minutes in the shops about 10 years ago. Little fella never woke up and died about an hour later in a vet's surgery. Wasn't as hot as today. A car is like a greenhouse with all those big windows.

DonnaDarko09

Its a pug puppy so I'm aware they have notoriously bad hearts! neighbours pug died at 7 weeks)

Larbre34

You can't say you didn't warn her OP

Its horrific for the dog, but if their owner is a selfish imbecile and the poor thing dies, then its the outcome the owner deserves, if not the dog themselves....

If she hasnt listened and it does become ill or die from her neglect later, report it to the Guards and the Society........

Pumpkinseeds

The OP is in a really awkward position. They have done everything that they can do and I can fully understand that they don't want to fall out with their landlord and risk a possible eviction. It's all very well for us to criticise but we aren't in the OP's position. Calling the ISPCA isn't an option at this point as they've lost their anonymity. There is only so much that a person can do, which is why most people, my self included choose to remain anonymous when we report animal neglect or abuse.

endacl

Maybe if they gave an indication as to make and model? And where it's parked?

Some good samaritan...?

Cocolola

Surely you couldn't be evicted for this? It's got nothing to do with your tenancy. The fact that your landlord is her boss should be irrelevant?

spurious

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Its a pug puppy so I'm aware they have notoriously bad hearts! neighbours pug died at 7 weeks)

Pugs have breathing problems at the best of times.
Really, I'd be getting that dog out of there due to the heat - apart from the being left alone issue, which is a very big one for pugs.

DonnaDarko09

Thanks Endacl but the car was in private parking...she has left now for the day I think, so hopefully she will leave the poor pup at home tomorrow!

spurious

endacl wrote: »

Maybe if they gave an indication as to make and model? And where it's parked?

Some good samaritan...?

+1
Is this dog in the Dublin area?

DonnaDarko09 wrote: »

Thanks Endacl but the car was in private parking...she has left now for the day I think, so hopefully she will leave the poor pup at home tomorrow!

Glad to hear it - that poor dog.

tatli_lokma

anniehoo wrote: »

`Fair play OP you're doing all you can.

Really? Seems to me more like the bare minimum, especially in light of the story you just quoted.

Personally I would have to intervene, and causing a scene be damned.

DonnaDarko09

All, the owner and dog have now gone...the dog was left in the car for a minimum of 2 hours which is not really acceptable (I am not sure what time she arrived this morning).
I would have no qualms about discussing this with her tomorrow if she does the same... as someone said it should have no bearing on the fact her boss is also my landlord and I'm sure most people would understand concern for any animal left inside a car in hot conditions

kylith

I would advise that if you see her with the dog tomorrow offer to take it into your house, stating that dogs die very quickly in cars in weather like this. If she refuses then I would tell her that I would feel obligated to call the ISPCA.

jobless

Is it a requirement to leave your name with the ISPCA or something?.... Surely an anonymous phone call would suffice here?

B.A._Baracus

I think leaving a dog in a car for 5 minutes is fine. Like, pull up to a spar (or what ever) and in and out. Any amount of time, even 30 minutes is cruel. Especially in this heat.

But I guess, even if it was bitter cold outside the poor animal might get freaked out after a while.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Larbre34 wrote: »

You can't say you didn't warn her OP

Its horrific for the dog, but if their owner is a selfish imbecile and the poor thing dies, then its the outcome the owner deserves, if not the dog themselves....

If she hasnt listened and it does become ill or die from her neglect later, report it to the Guards and the Society........

But I thought she hasn't said anything to the owner?

gimmick

Saw this on facebook the other day. Call the Gardai

tatli_lokma

I would be really cheeky and go one step further and print off that flyer and pop it through the letterbox of the office she works in, with the 'call 999' underlined, thereby making it very clear that if she does it again what the repercussions will be. Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful way to treat your pet.

unclebill98

Well, yesterday a dog was left in a car for over 90 mins. Window slighty opened. Poor dog was panting and jumping at everyone who went over.

Garda and Ispca could do nothing.

Here is the thing, the car is the owner of a dog walking company based in Dublin. Their name printed all over the van including there number.

Tried calling the number, no answer. To think this is how they treat there own dog, assuming its there's.

Some people are stupid but for someone who works with dogs for a living it's unbelievable.

I've pics and video of the van. Will not post for obvious reasons.

wexie

unclebill98 wrote: »

Well, yesterday a dog was left in a car for over 90 mins. Window slighty opened. Poor dog was panting and jumping at everyone who went over.

Garda and Ispca could do nothing.

Here is the thing, the car is the owner of a dog walking company based in Dublin. Their name printed all over the van including there number.

Tried calling the number, no answer. To think this is how they treat there own dog, assuming its there's.

Some people are stupid but for someone who works with dogs for a living it's unbelievable.

I've pics and video of the van. Will not post for obvious reasons.

I appreciate that you can't just post those details on Boards because of legal implications for Boards, but if that company was looking after my dog I'd bloody well want to know!!!

Mods /admins: is there any way these details can be shared without getting Boards into trouble? (or Uncle Bill). This obviously relates directly to this company's business practices and these are living creatures this company looks after. It's not like exposing dodgy plumbing practice?

endacl

wexie wrote: »

Mods /admins: is there any way these details can be shared without getting Boards into trouble? (or Uncle Bill). This obviously relates directly to this company's business practices and these are living creatures this company looks after. It's not like exposing dodgy plumbing practice?

I doubt it. There's no way of demonstrating whether the dog was there for 10 minutes or 10 hours. Why don't you send a pm if want to know? That's a conversation, not a publication.

tatli_lokma

unclebill98 wrote: »

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Garda and Ispca could do nothing.

Why am I not surprised? Animal protection laws in this country are a joke and if the gardai do manage to prosecute often the judiciary make a mockery of the process by handing down laughable 'punishments'. It really is sickening.

tatli_lokma

endacl wrote: »

I doubt it. There's no way of demonstrating whether the dog was there for 10 minutes or 10 hours. Why don't you send a pm if want to know? That's a conversation, not a publication.

In the current heat even 10 mins is too long and someone who works with animals and supposedly has animal welfare as a concern should well know that. I would be appalled and kicking up a right fuss if I discovered someone who was paid to be responsible for my beloved pet was behaving in such a way.

endacl

Little Ted wrote: »

In the current heat even 10 mins is too long and someone who works with animals and supposedly has animal welfare as a concern should well know that. I would be appalled and kicking up a right fuss if I discovered someone who was paid to be responsible for my beloved pet was behaving in such a way.

You appear to have missed my point...

unclebill98

Well it was 90 mins. Four people standing there witnessing it.

We all called the number. She called one of us back later that night but they did not answer the call.

One of those there has posted a pic on Facebook and a number of people send her an email. Not sure if they done it annoumous or if they got a reply.

anniehoo

wexie wrote: »

Mods /admins: is there any way these details can be shared without getting Boards into trouble? (or Uncle Bill).

PM each other....

OldNotWIse

Considering how hot it was yday, I'm assuming the dog is now dead.