Anyone else hate the Bray Summerfest funfair?

B0jangles

Hurray, the funfair has arrived again!

Cue a full month of the same 6 songs being played on repeat 10 hours a day; makes it really unpleasant to spend any time out in the garden for most of the summer.



Anyone else already looking forward to the 6th of August?

Judgement Day

I have never been but living in Enniscorthy we have our own versions - the Strawberry Festival , Street Rhythms etc. To me, all these festivals are akin to the old Hi-de-Hi type holiday camps where you must be active/entertained 24/7. If they tided up Bray and put back some proper tourist infrastructure it would be far more worthwhile for all concerned but that requires money and innovation. Buy ear plugs.

foxy06

Can't walk along the prom now without the kids driving me crazy wanting to go on everything! It brings tourism though so cant argue with that.

Cerco

Judgement Day wrote: »

If they tided up Bray and put back some proper tourist infrastructure it would be far more worthwhile for all concerned

You are right. Investment in infrastructure and a concerted effort to imrove the appearance of the town qould help. I think the beach area has been destroyed. I think the powers that be in Bray have little interest in tourism.

B0jangles

foxy06 wrote: »

Can't walk along the prom now without the kids driving me crazy wanting to go on everything! It brings tourism though so cant argue with that.

That is the question - does it?

Yesterday (before it arrived) the beach was just as crowded with families enjoying the sun as it was today.

Last year, when there was no sun the funfair was completely empty for 6 days of the week.

It seems to me that people come to the seaside when the weather is good, and not because there are some massively overpriced crappy funfair rides to be had.

brayblue24

B0jangles wrote: »

It seems to me that people come to the seaside when the weather is good, and not because there are some massively overpriced crappy funfair rides to be had.

I agree. I was on the seafront today and the place was jammers. I had my 13 year old with me and he had no interest (he did have once) but at this stage I reckon people are tired looking at the same old funfair rides year in year out. Most were just enjoying the weather.

At 1.30 I had to park on Meath Road and it ain't often that happens on a Tuesday!

NobodyImportant

I'mk not a fan either, it brings down the tone of the area, however it does bring in, well, i wont call them tourists, they arent paying Americans, but it brings in Dub's.

The beach was packed because of the weather, which we rarely get, the fair will being in crowds even in overcast conditions.

However, do the paying customers of the funfair generally spend in the area? Or do they contribute to anti-social behaviour and litter? I would probably say more of the latter unfortunately.

The funfair should be paying for more bins, a litter warden/litter cleaner-upper and more security/paid gardai to keep it all safer and cleaner.

anncoates

NobodyImportant wrote: »

I'mk not a fan either, it brings down the tone of the area, however it does bring in, well, i wont call them tourists, they arent paying Americans, but it brings in Dub's.

'Dubs' bring down the tone of Bray?.

LOL.

The Real B-man

Ahh Yes and the Dutch Recording on the Rides "Please Please PPPPPPP Please Pay in the Car" & "Get You're Tokens for the Next Ride" :P

Alun

Personally I think it's a bit tacky and apart from at weekends, when lots of people from the general area (including Dubs ) visit anyway, it appears to be largely empty. It also makes a mess of the grass area, which then takes the rest of the year to either regrow itself or needs to be resown by the council, only for the whole cycle to start over again the next year.

I'd rather they spent some money reinstating all the victorian cast-iron seat backs, railings and other accessories, and on maintaining and signposting the cliff path and the routes up Bray Head.

zoobizoo

The Fun Fair this year is smaller than last year by about 30% and it has more traditional rides than in previous years. Some of those rides were on the seafront 50 years ago. I was down the beach yesterday and it was a lot quieter than the previous Fun Fair (in terms of volume).

Here's an infographic explaining how the Fun Fair contribute to the Summerfest:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=670112229670060&set=a.239034072777880.81044.222471607767460&type=1&theater

People spend money when they come to a town on a day out... talk to any of the business owners down that direction same with the cafes and restaurants down the Albert Walk etc.

There are ticket deals on the Summerfest FB page as well...... fifteen quid for 10 rides for adults and a tenner for 10 rides for kids.

And while you might think that it's only "Dubs" down there, there are generally loads of foreign tourists and down there too.

As for Tourism in Bray well, think of what the town does offer: Summerfest, Jazz Fest, Bloomsday, St. Patricks Day Festival, Groove Festival, Gospel Rising Festival. Can you think of other towns of a similar size around the country that offer as many festivals, plus an aquarium, great seafront restaurants, pubs, cafes etc? Then there's Kilruddery, the promenade, the Cliff Walk, Bray Head.

BTW, the Family Fiesta is on this Saturday and Sunday with loads of free stuff for kids including Reuben, Glenroe Farm, Sealife Touch Pool, Puppet Shows, Story Tellers....

Alun

zoobizoo wrote: »

And while you might think that it's only "Dubs" down there, there are generally loads of foreign tourists and down there too.

But wouldn't the foreign tourists be there anyway? I seriously doubt people travel to Bray from other countries just for the Summerfest.

B0jangles

Well maybe they could put the whole funfair down in front of the pubs and hotels who profit by it, instead of private homes who get nothing from it except roaring machines and looped music all day, then rowdy drunks at night?

Seriously - there is one machine which plays a sample of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2VQQEoWlTg on a loop every 10 minutes or so; it's maddening.

zoobizoo

Hey Alun, you'd be surprised at the number of hotel rooms booked during the festival are. I'll see if I can get some figures.

As for that Sample BoJangles, I can imagine that to be fairly head wrecking. Which ride is that?

zoobizoo

Just found that photo of the rides on the seafront from the 1920s - some of the same rides are here again 90 years later.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=599344176762612&set=a.234502209913479.61595.234210346609332&type=1&theater

Alun

zoobizoo wrote: »

Hey Alun, you'd be surprised at the number of hotel rooms booked during the festival are. I'll see if I can get some figures.

I'm not disputing that the number of hotel rooms booked increases in the summer months, I regularly see e.g. German coaches parked up outside the Esplanade Hotel, but I don't really believe there's a correlation between that and the Summerfest being on, more likely just a coincidence.

B0jangles

zoobizoo wrote: »

Hey Alun, you'd be surprised at the number of hotel rooms booked during the festival are. I'll see if I can get some figures.

As for that Sample BoJangles, I can imagine that to be fairly head wrecking. Which ride is that?

I think it's the waltzer (weirdly called Superbob) but I'm not 100% sure - I'll walk around in a bit and double-check.

zoobizoo

Alun wrote: »

I'm not disputing that the number of hotel rooms booked increases in the summer months, I regularly see e.g. German coaches parked up outside the Esplanade Hotel, but I don't really believe there's a correlation between that and the Summerfest being on, more likely just a coincidence.

Have you ever asked the hotels?

Alun

zoobizoo wrote: »

Have you ever asked the hotels?

No I haven't, have you? And if so, what was the question asked exactly? Did you ask them if they a) see a number of increased bookings when Summerfest is on or b) if they have actually asked their guests if the primary reason for their visit is Summerfest or are just assuming this is the case? German school holidays start later than ours

zoobizoo

You can divide the tourists up in terms of those coming on tours like the German schools etc who'll be coming anyway and then a lot of UK, NI and Irish tourists coming to the town as they know that there will be something to do here.

I have spoken to the managers of some of the larger hotels and yeah, they attribute a lot of their summer bookings specifically to the festival. Have a chat to Pat from SeaLife who is on the Bray Tourism committee... he'll be able to fill you in with more details.

NobodyImportant

The topic is the Bray Summerfest FUNFAIR. I dont think anyone has a problem with the Summerfest itself, thats damn good and has great initiatives.

The Funfair (excluding the likes of the big wheel, carousel etc) appeals to a different type of person who tends to arrive with crates of beer, with no top on and ruins the place for everyone else. Its these boneheads who i dont believe are necessary to the economy of Bray. They dont dine in the restaurants, stay in the hotels or order buns in the cafe on Albert Walk.

Thats why i dont see the need for a big funfair, you could throw one or two of the older, more victorian era rides and leave it at that.

Alun

zoobizoo wrote: »

I have spoken to the managers of some of the larger hotels and yeah, they attribute a lot of their summer bookings specifically to the festival. Have a chat to Pat from SeaLife who is on the Bray Tourism committee... he'll be able to fill you in with more details.

If that's true then I'm surprised, frankly.

XxMCRxBabyxX

Alun wrote: »

If that's true then I'm surprised, frankly.

When a tourist is planning their holiday itinerary they are bound to look at what's on in different places. If they see that a festival is on, whether they know anything about it or not, they are more likely to go to that place at that time. Based on that I would be quite confident that the Summerfest does attract more Tourists

zoobizoo

If you look at the infographic you can see how much the funfair contributes to the festival to be able to pay for entertainment, music etc.

The funfair that used to be in Bray is now in DL so maybe they;ll stop off there instead of coming out here but I've grown up close to the seafront enough to know that if the sun is out, the boneheads will be out....

B0jangles

Just checked and the "Everybody Dance Now" clip is used on the waltzer, but to be prefectly honest, the whole thing is deafening.

I just recorded two short videos

This is from just across from the fair:

http://youtu.be/krE_4mMOP5Y

And this is what my kitchen sounds like if the window is open:

http://youtu.be/rQjETcEtMjU

Bear in mind this was filmed at 2 pm on a wednesday, so it's not like it's a Bank Holiday Weekend or anything.

This will go on 'til around 8 o'clock tonight and every single day thereafter for the next month.

NobodyImportant

Sorry for your trouble BoJangles. I'm very close to the beach, but just the other side of the railway which stops the noise travelling over to us.

Judgement Day

Isn't a pity that they couldn't have made a better fist of keeping the likes of Dawson's Amusements going instead of this mess? Looks awful.

Sugarlumps

Very jealous of your view Bojangles.

B0jangles

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Very jealous of your view Bojangles.

Oh pish...

Cerco

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

When a tourist is planning their holiday itinerary they are bound to look at what's on in different places. If they see that a festival is on, whether they know anything about it or not, they are more likely to go to that place at that time. Based on that I would be quite confident that the Summerfest does attract more Tourists

Everyone to their own. I would avoid Bray during the Summerfest like the plague. I would be surprised if any foreign visitors would appreciate this event. The funfair just adds another deterrent for me.

B0jangles

For anyone still interested, it's 10:05 and it's still going strong:

http://youtu.be/L_N3Zj3vMoo


Edit: hurrah! It's finally shut-up after nearly 9 bloody hours!

vickers209

Was Down At seafront this evening and i was stopped twice by people asking was i local to the area and where they could get something to eat as they only arrived in the area. I pointed them in the direction of the martello and porterhouse.

Also noticed 2 English registered buses parked outside the Esplanade Hotel so obliviously Some tourists are coming into the area.

The atmosphere in the area was nice and relaxed (may have been weather) but i enjoyed my evening and will be back

Only downside is the carnival is pricey at €3 per person per ride for most and the roadworks that's reduced a lot of parking spaces why was it not done in the Autumn instead of peak season.

As for anti social behavior i noticed the garda making there presence there too seen 2 garda cycling along the promenade so hopefully they will keep it up and keep an eye on things

NobodyImportant

Summerfest = Good

Funfair = Bad

B0jangles

^^^ That's it in a nutshell ^^^

I think it's getting even louder today

http://youtu.be/cSyHCGsxybs

Also zoobizoo, from the tone of your posts I'm guessing you're involved on the organizational side of Summerfest? If so, is there any way you could have a word with the Fair operators about keeping the noise level to a more reasonable level?

I'm going to go insane if I have to listen to this for ten hours a day for the next month.

fleury

I would advise you ,BOjangles, to tell the Festival Organisers how you are being tormented by all that noise. You have a right to the peaceable enjoyment of your home under the Irish Constitution & EU law. The organisers of that Bray Festival are not capable of organising a p... up in a brewery. Residents on the Seafront should organise a Bray Spring !

fleury

foxy06 wrote: »

Can't walk along the prom now without the kids driving me crazy wanting to go on everything! It brings tourism though so cant argue with that.

You mean it brings day trippers & yobs!
Tourists are terrified to go down that place especially at night

fleury

B0jangles wrote: »

Well maybe they could put the whole funfair down in front of the pubs and hotels who profit by it, instead of private homes who get nothing from it except roaring machines and looped music all day, then rowdy drunks at night?

Seriously - there is one machine which plays a sample of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2VQQEoWlTg on a loop every 10 minutes or so; it's maddening.

The people living near the bandstand & pubs there have to flee their homes when the concerts are on all weekend . Who cares about them. Not the Festival organises for sure.

B0jangles

fleury wrote: »

I would advise you ,BOjangles, to tell the Festival Organisers how you are being tormented by all that noise. You have a right to the peaceable enjoyment of your home under the Irish Constitution & EU law. The organisers of that Bray Festival are not capable of organising a p... up in a brewery. Residents on the Seafront should organise a Bray Spring !

Yeah, I was just looking into the law on noise pollution and who should be appealed to if you thinks someone is in breech, and I think we have an very strong case based on what I have read already.

Also, just for fun, here's what our carnival friends think about ramps for handicapped people:



- this car arrived among the similarly english reg'd carnival vehicles and has completely blocked the ramp for the handicapped for the last 5 hours at least.)

(number blocked for public forum use, original sent to gardaí)

Edit: I just looked back at the video I recorded at 1.43 this afternoon and that car was already parked there.



Classy stuff.

fleury

zoobizoo wrote: »

The Fun Fair this year is smaller than last year by about 30% and it has more traditional rides than in previous years. Some of those rides were on the seafront 50 years ago. I was down the beach yesterday and it was a lot quieter than the previous Fun Fair (in terms of volume).

Here's an infographic explaining how the Fun Fair contribute to the Summerfest:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=670112229670060&set=a.239034072777880.81044.222471607767460&type=1&theater

People spend money when they come to a town on a day out... talk to any of the business owners down that direction same with the cafes and restaurants down the Albert Walk etc.

There are ticket deals on the Summerfest FB page as well...... fifteen quid for 10 rides for adults and a tenner for 10 rides for kids.

And while you might think that it's only "Dubs" down there, there are generally loads of foreign tourists and down there too.

As for Tourism in Bray well, think of what the town does offer: Summerfest, Jazz Fest, Bloomsday, St. Patricks Day Festival, Groove Festival, Gospel Rising Festival. Can you think of other towns of a similar size around the country that offer as many festivals, plus an aquarium, great seafront restaurants, pubs, cafes etc? Then there's Kilruddery, the promenade, the Cliff Walk, Bray Head.

BTW, the Family Fiesta is on this Saturday and Sunday with loads of free stuff for kids including Reuben, Glenroe Farm, Sealife Touch Pool, Puppet Shows, Story Tellers....

Cant think of any other town in this country that would tolerate a festival such as the Bray festival. It is far too long especially as most of the action is happening almost on the doorsteps of family homes. The funfair is unbearable for people living close by as evidenced here.The noise is a health hazard all around the seafront area . The funfair is only allowed for 1 week in Dun Laoghaire and it is not plonked on the doorsteps of family homes. That would not be allowed in Dun Laoghaire. Can anyone see tourists shoppng in Bray in the 2 euro shops and the charity shops all along the main street? Bargains galore for the tourists! Oh nearly forgot to mention all the pharmacies too, hoping to do a doing a roaring trade selling earplugs!

B0jangles

Just wanted to say that I was down past there today and the car I saw last night parked on the disabled access ramp is now parked on the grass among the rest of the fairground vehicles, so I can confirm 100% that it was one of the Fairground operators who chose to completely block disabled access to the seafront there for at least nine hours yesterday - as far as I can tell it was solely to avoid having to pay the minimal charge for parking in the adjacent car-park.

Says it all really.

Edit: zoobizoo, you seem to have gone awfully quiet lately; have you anything to say about this?

fleury

B0jangles wrote: »

Yeah, I was just looking into the law on noise pollution and who should be appealed to if you thinks someone is in breech, and I think we have an very strong case based on what I have read already.

Also, just for fun, here's what our carnival friends think about ramps for handicapped people:



- this car arrived among the similarly english reg'd carnival vehicles and has completely blocked the ramp for the handicapped for the last 5 hours at least.)

(number blocked for public forum use, original sent to gardaí)

Edit: I just looked back at the video I recorded at 1.43 this afternoon and that car was already parked there.



Classy stuff.

The festival licence holder is responsible for all that happens at the festival. He does not seem to have respect for anyone . A pensioner called to ask him to do something about the noise of the funfair because its almost on her doorstep. The response to that lovely gentle lady ,a household and property tax payer and long time memember of the community who is being driven mad with the noise in every room in her home .... HE HUNG UP HIS PHONE! Is that appropiate behaviour for a Councillor and Festival licence holder ?? It's shocking.

B0jangles

^^^:eek:^^^

Really??? I'm sorry, but that's just shameful.

brayblue24

OP (and everyone else directly affected by the carnival, I went for a pint in the Martello last night but before I went in I took a walk on the prom and can say one thing-I feel for you, I really do. It must be horrendous with that on your doorstep every day and night. It also occurred to me the the 2Xtreme ride almost goes in the window of the old folks homes opposite. From a selfish point of view I'm glad I don't live near this.

As for tourists shopping as far as I can see the only people making money are O'Briens on the Quinsboro' Road.

fleury

brayblue24 wrote: »

OP (and everyone else directly affected by the carnival, I went for a pint in the Martello last night but before I went in I took a walk on the prom and can say one thing-I feel for you, I really do. It must be horrendous with that on your doorstep every day and night. It also occurred to me the the 2Xtreme ride almost goes in the window of the old folks homes opposite. From a selfish point of view I'm glad I don't live near this.

As for tourists shopping as far as I can see the only people making money are O'Briens on the Quinsboro' Road.

It must be really awful for the people in that nursing home opposite the funfair too, bless them. Is it unfair or funfair?

danois

zoobizoo wrote: »

The Fun Fair this year is smaller than last year by about 30% and it has more traditional rides than in previous years. Some of those rides were on the seafront 50 years ago. I was down the beach yesterday and it was a lot quieter than the previous Fun Fair (in terms of volume).

Here's an infographic explaining how the Fun Fair contribute to the Summerfest:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=670112229670060&set=a.239034072777880.81044.222471607767460&type=1&theater

People spend money when they come to a town on a day out... talk to any of the business owners down that direction same with the cafes and restaurants down the Albert Walk etc.

There are ticket deals on the Summerfest FB page as well...... fifteen quid for 10 rides for adults and a tenner for 10 rides for kids.

And while you might think that it's only "Dubs" down there, there are generally loads of foreign tourists and down there too.

As for Tourism in Bray well, think of what the town does offer: Summerfest, Jazz Fest, Bloomsday, St. Patricks Day Festival, Groove Festival, Gospel Rising Festival. Can you think of other towns of a similar size around the country that offer as many festivals, plus an aquarium, great seafront restaurants, pubs, cafes etc? Then there's Kilruddery, the promenade, the Cliff Walk, Bray Head.

BTW, the Family Fiesta is on this Saturday and Sunday with loads of free stuff for kids including Reuben, Glenroe Farm, Sealife Touch Pool, Puppet Shows, Story Tellers....

have you a link for the cheap tickets? cant find them and i'm planning on bringing kids down tomorrow

Strongbow10

danois wrote: »

have you a link for the cheap tickets? cant find them and i'm planning on bringing kids down tomorrow

id say its probably expired at this stage

foxy06

Was down there today and noticed the music wasn't playing anymore at a lot of the rides?

NobodyImportant

foxy06 wrote: »

Was down there today and noticed the music wasn't playing anymore at a lot of the rides?

Cant say i noticed, the bandstand stuff was pretty loud. I can hear it from the house and it sounded like Karaoke at points.

Would be glad to hear if the rides turned off the music.

fleury

Was down the seafront yesterday and saw tourists from the tour buses taking some souvenir photos to remind them of their visit to Bray. As well as the usual shots of the fantastic views and Bray head they were taking photos of the overflowing bins and the rubbish strewn everywhere . "Take a look at my holiday snaps of Bray"!

fleury

Maybe they ran out of diesel for the generators. Anyone know how much fuel the funfair uses to pollute the seafront air?

2 weeks is enough

2 weeks is enough. The funfair takes away the green space at the height of summer. Burns 20.000 euro in diesel. Each ride plays different music, a cacophony of squall at illegal decibel levels. People's homes are uninhabitable. Noise and air pollution at this level in this day and age makes no sense.