Another clamping thread, €840 and rising

sophia25

I know clamping has been done ad nauseum, but here's another aspect.
I ha ve been clamped by APCOA. I accept that I hadn't a residents parking permit,so they were free to clamp me, I put it down as a bad experience. It was
y daughter's school tour. (Junior Infants) so was just concerned in getting her to school o. Time so she wouldn't miss tour bus.
That was last Weds. I had €6 to my name so declamping car was not option. Next day I tried to pay the €120 fee using half my weekly money, but it was now €240. I just could not pay it.

Almost a werek later the declamp fee is €840 and rising daily. I know that tbey justify this by saying that I am trespassing, but with a clamp on car, I can't remedy the situation. I will never be able to remove this clamp now so we are at an impasse. If they had takenthe €120 last week this would have been sorted. I have had no car for a week and they got nomoney.
Extortion can only work, if the person hss the means to pay!

meercat

Get the clamp cut off
I'm sure someone here can help

Arciphel

€840!!! Are you serious? That's unbelievable. Somebody please help the OP cut this clamp off, the good karma from denying this shower of highwaymen gangsters will be immense.

corkgsxr

Apparently if you leave it there they'll take it off as its loosing them money. But I donno how long that takes

Markcheese

How much is your car worth ??

sophia25

I reckon some time next week, the declamping will cost more than car. An 06 renault!

frash

Whereabouts is it parked?
I'm sure someone here can remove it - it's been done before.

Anan1

You're a slow learner, aren't you?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79912348

djimi

Leave it there long enough and they will eventually take it off. They are better off getting €120 from someone else than not getting €840 from you, and they know it.

biko

Anan1 wrote: »

You're a slow learner, aren't you?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79912348

Hmm, I see last time a boardsie cut the clamp off.
OP I see a pattern here. Hmmm.

BGozIE

Haha did you get clamped in the same place OP? Where in blanch is it?

intellectual dosser

How long was the car parked there before it got clamped? Leaving your daughter off for her school tour surely took only 10 minutes, your original post suggests you were running late.

listermint

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................

djimi

intellectual dosser wrote: »

How long was the car parked there before it got clamped? Leaving your daughter off for her school tour surely took only 10 minutes, your original post suggests you were running late.

It pretty much irrelevant how long they were parked there; the clamper could have arrived the minute they disappeared around the corner. There is no grace period when you are illegally parked on someones private property, nor should there be.

intellectual dosser

djimi wrote: »

It pretty much irrelevant how long they were parked there; the clamper could have arrived the minute they disappeared around the corner. There is no grace period when you are illegally parked on someones private property, nor should there be.

That's true, but I think the parking mgmt company needs to show some discretion when charging €840 for those ten minutes. Do they really think people in this country in these times can afford that?

I guess the integrity of all this is in the balance at the moment following Anan1's revelation.

djimi

intellectual dosser wrote: »

That's true, but I think the parking mgmt company needs to show some discretion when charging €840 for those ten minutes. Do they really think people in this country in these times can afford that?

If you cant afford it then dont park where you shouldnt. I know that sounds high horse but its the truth.

And its not the management company, its the likes of APCOA that need regulation so charges like that are not allowed to rack up. But at the moment there is no regulation, and I doubt youll find many who dont know that, so you take the risk and you face the consequences.

For what its worth there is no way that the OP will be paying €840 to APCOA. At this stage its worth waiting it out until they take the clamp off, and after that you can just ignore them. If the OP fancies paying them then eventually they will realise that taking whatever is on offer is better than the nothing they would get if they tried to persue it further.

mullingar

djimi wrote: »

If you cant afford it then dont park where you shouldnt. I know that sounds high horse but its the truth.

And its not the management company, its the likes of APCOA that need regulation so charges like that are not allowed to rack up. But at the moment there is no regulation, and I doubt youll find many who dont know that, so you take the risk and you face the consequences.

For what its worth there is no way that the OP will be paying €840 to APCOA. At this stage its worth waiting it out until they take the clamp off, and after that you can just ignore them. If the OP fancies paying them then eventually they will realise that taking whatever is on offer is better than the nothing they would get if they tried to persue it further.

High horse indeed.

OP DID accept that there was a risk in being clamped and accepted the €120 release fee and was willing to pay it. Doubling the fee on a near daily basis is extorsion.

intellectual dosser

djimi wrote: »

If you cant afford it then dont park where you shouldnt. I know that sounds high horse but its the truth.

And its not the management company, its the likes of APCOA that need regulation so charges like that are not allowed to rack up. But at the moment there is no regulation, and I doubt youll find many who dont know that, so you take the risk and you face the consequences.

For what its worth there is no way that the OP will be paying €840 to APCOA. At this stage its worth waiting it out until they take the clamp off, and after that you can just ignore them. If the OP fancies paying them then eventually they will realise that taking whatever is on offer is better than the nothing they would get if they tried to persue it further.

By parking mgmt company I meant ASPOA. Also - I must be in the minority because I couldn't tell you anything about parking regulations (or lack thereof). I hope ASPOA come to their senses here - if they are charging those fees then some people must be paying them!

bobin fudge

seems like you think you can park anywhere now and just post on here with a sob story and hope someone will rip the clamp off?

Not a bad idea/scam you have going

antodeco

bobin fudge wrote: »

seems like you think you can park anywhere now and just post on here with a sob story and hope someone will rip the clamp off?

Not a bad idea/scam you have going

Better scam than private clamping in fairness!

Anan1

antodeco wrote: »

Better scam than private clamping in fairness!

Without people like sophia25 there wouldn't be any private clamping.

antodeco

Anan1 wrote: »

Without people like sophia25 there wouldn't be any private clamping.

I do agree with this, in relation to obviously "incorrect" parking. However, in jest, I was talking more so about private clamping in general. It's a scam in relation to, pay it, tough. If there was a fair and independent appeals process, then private clamping would be less of a scam.

Anyway, this conversation has be done to death

anheneti

I feel your pain I got clamped at 11.09 ticket expired at 11.05 I was going into the car park to renew the ticket when the clampers drove out

Anan1

anheneti wrote: »

I feel your pain I got clamped at 11.09 ticket expired at 11.05 I was going into the car park to renew the ticket when the clampers drove out

That's a completely different thing. You had paid for your space and were only four minutes over the time, whereas sophia25 knowingly parked in a residents parking space.

Markcheese

Anan1 wrote: »

That's a completely different thing. You had paid for your space and were only four minutes over the time, whereas sophia25 knowingly parked in a residents parking space.

I don't think the OP was claiming innocence , I think they're claiming that she can't "catch up" with the release fee as it's going up so fast... Pity she wasn't driving a 300 euro banger as the company would be happy to release car after a day... Or it'd be left there for good...

anheneti

My one consolation is that there is a consaw in the van I must check and see what it's like to cut steel.

djimi

Markcheese wrote: »

I don't think the OP was claiming innocence , I think they're claiming that she can't "catch up" with the release fee as it's going up so fast...

Again, without meaning to sound high horse, she should have thought of that before parking somewhere that potentially carries a €120 a day fine if caught. The fear of the fine, or at the very least the hassle involved, is the very reason why most people dont park illegally in NCPS/APCOA car parks.

anheneti

anheneti wrote: »

My one consolation is that there is a consaw in the van I must check and see what it's like to cut steel.

Just get a metal cutting disc. Will go through a clamp lock like a hot knife through butter

sophia25

The car was clamped outside my home in my spot.I am in dispute re mgt fees so I have no permit. The reality is though I can't afford mgt fees now anyway as they work out at €20 pw and since I lost my job, I get €247.60ps for me and 2kids and no help with mortgage. I only park at night wben clampers are finished work and move it early next day. The car was clamped at 2.18am.

I was devestated but tried to pay the fee when I got the money as accepted my blame. I am not the type of person that parks offensively. I hate living like this and if I could find a job that would mean icould pay my bill I would. I feel like the biggest failure anyway so nothing you can say can make me feel worst. I do think though that it is extortion to hold my car ransom at €120 a day. APCOA do not own property. The mgt co. do own property but they get no benefit from this daily charge and in fact the trespass is longer because the car is stuck outside my home.

Mycroft H

Leave the clamp on. They'll get bored an remove it eventually...

Anan1

I wonder are the management company instructing APCOA to play hardball with you in order to pressure you into paying your service charge?

Mitch Connor

So you got clamped, at 2.18am, when trying to get your 4 or 5 year old kid to school in time for a school tour?

dr.fuzzenstein

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So you got clamped, at 2.18am, when trying to get your 4 or 5 year old kid to school in time for a school tour?

The plot thickens...

K.Flyer

I think what the OP is saying is that her car was clamped in her designated car parking space, where she lives, at 02.18 during the night because she did not have a permit displayed. That morning her main concern was getting her child to school and not the clamp removed and having only six euros that day she was unable to pay to have it removed anyway.
She tried to pay the following day but they had increased the removal fee, this is the point she is highlighting.

Anan1

This isn't a clamping issue at all, this is a management company fees issue.

sophia25

K.Flyer wrote: »

I think what the OP is saying is that her car was clamped in her designated car parking space, where she lives, at 02.18 during the night because she did not have a permit displayed. That morning her main concern was getting her child to school and not the clamp removed and having only six euros that day she was unable to pay to have it removed anyway.
She tried to pay the following day but they had increased the removal fee, this is the point she is highlighting.

That is exactly what happened. Also I was helping on school tour so was in a panic to get to school on time.when I came out of my house, I saw clamped car but my priority was school tour.

BGozIE

Anan1 wrote: »

This isn't a clamping issue at all, this is a management company fees issue.

What ever it is, the car is clamped, and it will continue to be, which is a shame for the OP but this stuff does happen all over the place with mgmt companies bringing in clampers.

Ash.J.Williams

i'm just wondering how people are paying anything these days...how can anyone on social pay a clamping fee?? I'd struggle with it and i have a job..

Grolschevik

Anan1 wrote: »

This isn't a clamping issue at all, this is a management company fees issue.

The OP should open negotiations with the management company regarding putting a payment plan in place. This might stop it happening again.

Whether the management company can call off the clampers right now is probably unlikely, though...

The guys in Accommodation & Property would probably have some useful advice, especially on what a management company might be able to compromise on.

Anan1

sophia25 wrote: »

That is exactly what happened. Also I was helping on school tour so was in a panic to get to school on time.when I came out of my house, I saw clamped car but my priority was school tour.

Did it never occur to you that, if you didn't have a valid permit because you hadn't paid your fees, then you were going to get clamped if you parked on management company land?

ba_barabus

sophia25 wrote: »

That is exactly what happened. Also I was helping on school tour so was in a panic to get to school on time.when I came out of my house, I saw clamped car but my priority was school tour.

So you were helping on the tour, late and just pulling up for a few minutes.

WOW can you give me time management tips

biko

sophia25 wrote: »

The car was clamped outside my home in my spot.I am in dispute re mgt fees so I have no permit.

Unfortunately this is quite common these days and if you would have said this in the OP it would have helped.
The management company uses parking permits to hold people to ransom for paying the management fee.

anheneti

Does anyone know if NCPS can move your vehicle if clamped?

Mycroft H

anheneti wrote: »

Does anyone know if NCPS can move your vehicle if clamped?

No it's your property. They have no legal right to move it.

SteelyDanJalapeno

BX 19 wrote: »

No it's your property. They have no legal right to move it.

They do have a legal right to interfere with it though?

whomitconcerns

well its his/her property, parked on private property that he/she no claim over..so how long before the clampers/management company could treat it as abandoned and causing an obstruction on their private property, assuming it remained unpaid?

Tallon

Can you all not stop picking apart every part of the OP's posts and either help get the (illegal) clamp off, or keep your moronic opinions to yourselves...

€120 is pushing it, but the OP was willing to pay it.. .As for €840+... fúck off

Anan1

Tallon wrote: »

Can you all not stop picking apart every part of the OP's posts and either help get the (illegal) clamp off, or keep your moronic opinions to yourselves...

Eh, no.

alias no.9

The best thing the OP can do is go and discuss how they can start to catch up with their management fees. Does 'in dispute' mean plain refusing to pay or engage with the management company or is there a little more context?

whomitconcerns

Tallon wrote: »

Can you all not stop picking apart every part of the OP's posts and either help get the (illegal) clamp off, or keep your moronic opinions to yourselves...

€120 is pushing it, but the OP was willing to pay it.. .As for €840+... fúck off

Tallon this is not just a random clamping...read it again and see its been done same person same place before...There is a LOT more to it than just a regular clamping

yop

Extortion of the highest standards. Yes the OP was in the wrong, but these muppets are worse. Leave them with the loss of the clamp, cut it off