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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Tinder Surprise


    Just installed today so will keep you updated

    One question but in relation to thermostats....

    I have a 3 zoned system (upstairs, downstairs,water) with the simple turn dial thermostats similar to these .

    One thermostat is placed in the hall (which in fairness as the tech said is poorly positioned as hall is always colder) and the upstairs one in the back bedroom.

    The technician left me two wireless thermostats which he clearly marked them upstairs and downstairs, and he recommended i use maybe velcro to mount them, so as to have the option of moving if needs be, and advised that the existing turn dial ones just be left up full @30.

    I am a bit confused; Im guessing he has bypassed the old thermostats, and my system will be controlled via these two new wireless ones, correct?

    Also no matter how long my heating is on it will only burn gas when the heating goes below the set temperature on these two wireless thermostat, correct?

    sorry if these question sound so stupid just it was only after he left that I got bit confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Just installed today so will keep you updated

    One question but in relation to thermostats....

    I have a 3 zoned system (upstairs, downstairs,water) with the simple turn dial thermostats similar to these .
    One thermostat is placed in the hall (which in fairness as the tech said is poorly positioned as hall is always colder) and the upstairs one in the back bedroom.

    The technician left me two wireless thermostats which he clearly marked them upstairs and downstairs, and he recommended i use maybe velcro to mount them, so as to have the option of moving if needs be, and advised that the existing turn dial ones just be left up full @30.

    I am a bit confused; Im guessing he has bypassed the old thermostats, and my system will be controlled via these two new wireless ones, correct?

    Also no matter how long my heating is on it will only burn gas when the heating goes below the set temperature on these two wireless thermostat, correct?

    sorry if these question sound so stupid just it was only after he left that I got bit confused.

    Yes by using the wireless stats the original ones are no longer required by turning up to 30 would mean that they never reach temperature so don't turn off the boiler they are not bypassed they are still in use by right he should have disconnected them out of the heating wiring.
    The wireless stats now control the power supply to boiler so if the stat reaches temperature if wont send power to the boiler to run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭D_D


    Hi all. Just wondering something, I have one of the Climtoes installed. My old controller was from the 80's, so was glad to accept a free one off Electric Ireland. I think it's handy to be able to turn the heating on and off remotely...

    But my question is, can these do damage to my gas boiler? I have mine set to 20 degrees and the climote is placed in the sitting room. When I turn on the heating , it warms the house to the correct temperature, but then does it's job and continuously turns on and off the heating to keep it at this temperature. It is currently about 30 minutes between the cycle of turning off once 20 degrees is reached, and turning on once it dips to 19 degrees.

    Can these 'turning on and off' cycles damage my gas boiler?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭DGOBS


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭rounders


    I'm currently getting a new heating system installed from scratch in a old house. House had no heating whatsoever in it. Its going to have a Grant combi condensing boiler and have 3 zones. Upstairs, downstairs and hot water. What thermostatic control would you recommend? Is something like climote or Nest any use to me apart from being a remote on off switch like a glorified GSM controller?

    Sorry for digging up a old trend btw. Just seem to have a lot of knowledgeable people on it!

    Also should mention that the house will be getting dry lined so running wires for thermostats wont be a problem as it will be all covered but dry lining


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭freddyuk


    rounders wrote: »
    I'm currently getting a new heating system installed from scratch in a old house. House had no heating whatsoever in it. Its going to have a Grant combi condensing boiler and have 3 zones. Upstairs, downstairs and hot water. What thermostatic control would you recommend? Is something like climote or Nest any use to me apart from being a remote on off switch like a glorified GSM controller?

    Sorry for digging up a old trend btw. Just seem to have a lot of knowledgeable people on it!

    Also should mention that the house will be getting dry lined so running wires for thermostats wont be a problem as it will be all covered but dry lining


    So all your bedrooms and bathroom will all be the same temperature? I would make the bathroom warm and the bedrooms cooler. If you don't use all the rooms then have the unused ones just "ticking over".
    Your living room, kitchen and maybe utility will all be the same temperature? I would only heat the rooms you need heated ie. when you need them; so control each room independently to save on energy.
    If you are doing this from scratch I would have a long hard think and do lots of research as you may regret going down the wrong road. The world has moved on and simple zoning is now just the start!

    Combi's are a curse. Use system boiler and pumps.Plumbers will prefer the easy option but get what YOU want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭cruiser202006


    Pricing up a few boiler changes in houses with climotes installed. No seperate zones. If I was to make a seperate living and a seperate bedroom zone would 2 wireless stats work with these??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    Pricing up a few boiler changes in houses with climotes installed. No seperate zones. If I was to make a seperate living and a seperate bedroom zone would 2 wireless stats work with these??

    Yes you can get the Climote ones
    They currently don't have a wireless stat for cylinder
    You can buy directly off Climote
    Ask for Aidan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭cruiser202006


    Robbie.G wrote: »
    Yes you can get the Climote ones
    They currently don't have a wireless stat for cylinder
    You can buy directly off Climote
    Ask for Aidan

    One stat installed already so will just need one more for each. Tender form just states that they want to be able to switch off rads Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭mylesm


    You can't install room stat into a room with a secondary heat source ie a fire place which most living areas would have. And a kitchen would have a cooker.

    Yes you can if that Room is a Zone on its own


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Washout


    Hi,

    I had the climote installed on Friday. I have a question on thermostats.

    I got two wireless thermostats but they only work if the existing wired thermostats are set a temp higher than room temp. I thought my old thermostats would be redundant and that i would be able to remove them from the wall.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Washout wrote: »
    Hi,

    I had the climote installed on Friday. I have a question on thermostats.

    I got two wireless thermostats but they only work if the existing wired thermostats are set a temp higher than room temp. I thought my old thermostats would be redundant and that i would be able to remove them from the wall.

    Surely your installer explained that to you????

    Anyway, perhaps the old stats were left in the loop as a sort of redundancy setup. Turn up your old stats all the way up and see if your new ones then control the system. If that works, just leave the old ones all the way up. And if that works, just make sure that when your new stats are off that your old stats are not calling on your circulating pumps etc..

    As said...easiest thing would be to give your installer a call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Folks - I noticed the annual charge of around €40 once you're finished the first year.
    If you don't renew, will the climode thermostat still work as a manual swtich device (ie - non remotely?).

    I've the offer to get one free from a gas boiler service, and my old thermostat has buttons a bit wonky, so meant to replace it anyway.
    Also - current thermostat is beside boiler in the spare utility room area. Will this still work?

    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Robbie.G


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Folks - I noticed the annual charge of around €40 once you're finished the first year.
    If you don't renew, will the climode thermostat still work as a manual swtich device (ie - non remotely?).

    I've the offer to get one free from a gas boiler service, and my old thermostat has buttons a bit wonky, so meant to replace it anyway.
    Also - current thermostat is beside boiler in the spare utility room area. Will this still work?

    cheers

    Yes the Climote will still work as a timer it just won't have remote access
    There is a built in stat in a Climote or a remote stat can be used


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I bought a netatamo cost €99 delivered. Full control of heating and settings including app and tech support. No other costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 drik


    I bought a netatamo cost €99 delivered. Full control of heating and settings including app and tech support. No other costs.

    @Punisher5112 did you buy the Netatamo directly from their site? Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    drik wrote: »
    @Punisher5112 did you buy the Netatamo directly from their site? Thanks!

    Yes it is saying out of stock at the moment.
    There is a discount code but not sure if still working .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Looking at getting a new control that I can control via app. I was looking at this and the Nest. I have Gas and not with Electric Ireland and if I switch the Climote is free and if not 149 Nest is 199 or if I switch 99. I only have one zone but would like to be able to heat up water separately to the radiators
    Are there other heating supplier companies whom offer this as only checked with Electric Ireland. Also is it costly to get another zone installed so I can heat up water separately? Finally is the yearly cost to control this via app 40?
    Apologies for all the questions just doing a bit of research


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭pistolero


    Hi, it is possible that customers simply want to "upgrade" or modernise the facilities their current system provides. It is absolutely true that adding a "remote" timer" will do very little to save energy costs and people are very easily misled when they do not understand what it is they are buying. For me it all starts with correctly sized rads-then onwards from that. In my own situation I have a correctly sized system, modern condensing boiler, proper insulation on the cylinder and the property, zoned heating areas and water- rad thermo valves-however my control (Honeywell) unit cannot be remotely set or adjusted so I plan to change it for the convenience this offers. I would suggest getting the basics right first before considering remote controls. Proper advise and costing is essential and hopefully thats whats being provided. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,257 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I didn't think anyone believed that the climote would save them money. The advantage of it for me is being able to control the heat remotely. Occasionally if we are out we will turn heating on half an hour be we get home. Outside of that I become a lazy so & so & boost my heating from my armchair. I doubt that it will ever save me a penny


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 shug02


    I've installed 3 climotes and think there a fantastic system...

    Donovan Lively Oarlock - could I pick your brains via PM on strange issues I am seeing after climote install to replace my two timers on a Vokera 20e system

    Its a standard three zone house, upstairs, downstairs heating and cylinder hot water.

    Strange things started happening after climote install
    1. No voltage to hallway thermostat
    2. Heater turns off completely immediately after boost is turned off on climote (instead of waiting for water to cool down)
    3. When two zones are running it gets really strange - sometimes they get mixed up, climote on but one valve off, climote on but valve off....and other varieties.....

    It looks to me like wiring error during install but the installer says no way it's that as it's "such a simple install"

    Anyone see n something similar? Any Ideas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    shug02 wrote: »
    MrMac84 - could I pick your brains via PM on strange issues I am seeing after climote install to replace my two timers on a Vokera 20e system

    Its a standard three zone house, upstairs, downstairs heating and cylinder hot water.

    Strange things started happening after climote install
    1. No voltage to hallway thermostat
    2. Heater turns off completely immediately after boost is turned off on climote (instead of waiting for water to cool down)
    3. When two zones are running it gets really strange - sometimes they get mixed up, climote on but one valve off, climote on but valve off....and other varieties.....

    It looks to me like wiring error during install but the installer says no way it's that as it's "such a simple install"

    Anyone see n something similar? Any Ideas?

    Shout away I’ll
    Help if I can


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭xl500


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    I swear to god, some sparks are stupid. I was at a huge house the other day and no kidding, 6 room stats not more than 300mm above each rad in the zones they were controlling. Some as close as 100mm

    Depends if House was Wired or Plumbed First maybe Plumber Put Rad on Wall directly Below Stat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,257 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    xl500 wrote:
    Depends if House was Wired or Plumbed First maybe Plumber Put Rad on Wall directly Below Stat


    It's not have a go at electricians day but I've seen many sitting rooms wired for surround sound with the wiring at ceiling level and not seated ear level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭xl500


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It's not have a go at electricians day but I've seen many sitting rooms wired for surround sound with the wiring at ceiling level and not seated ear level.

    I know my comment was tongue in cheek see my emoji at top just pointing out it was possible It was wired first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,257 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    xl500 wrote: »
    I know my comment was tongue in cheek see my emoji at top just pointing out it was possible It was wired first

    It's the chicken or the egg question :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    It's the chicken or the egg question :)

    Egg

    Reptiles>eggs>birds :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    I got this fitted today and I can't figure it out. I'm planning on just ignoring it but can anyone tell me how to just turn the heating on for an hour when ever I like? I don't need timers or remote shizzle, I just want to be able to find the "on/off" bloody button.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭Dardania


    I got this fitted today and I can't figure it out.  I'm planning on just ignoring it but can anyone tell me how to just turn the heating on for an hour when ever I like?  I don't need timers or remote shizzle, I just want to be able to find the "on/off" bloody button.

    Thanks.
    Why did you get it fitted if you want to do this? That's not how these devices function best...

    In the manual they talk about a zone boost function: http://www.climote.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/climote-user-guide-V1.pdf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Any one noticed their Climote reads a temp 2-3 degrees higher than reality constantly?


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