Mack the knife vrs GGG

clubwelly

I must be the only one in this forum who think Macklins gonna do it.
I know GGG has a great amature background and I know he has some ko power but for pure blind optimism I recon Macklins gonna ko him in the middle rounds.
He looks in great shape too

Here's the HBO add
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=75hrucv0EAY

Here's the 2days show they did for GGG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dr6KYicqs

wadacrack

The Irishman will be knocked out.Macklin is a very good test I think he will put in a comendible performance but Golovkin is a brillant fighter and will have too much power and win the exchanges

T-K-O

Golovkin has a big rep but Im still undecided as to how good he really is.

prettyboy81

GGG by brutal knockout around Round 4. But I reckon we will see a thrilling fight either way, whether it goes 4 or 12 rounds.

Frankie Lee

wadacrack wrote: »

The plastic paddy

No need for that, I don't understand the hatred Irish people have towards British born people of Irish parents.

Frank Gallagher pissed

yeh was just going say thats a pathetic comment.

Irish boxing fans might want to wise up all the abuse Fury and Macklin get, its not as if we have a range of pro boxers on the scene is it? In fact Irish pro boxing is in a terrible state. Those two are the only two anywhere close to world level along with Frampton, whos Northern Irish aswell incase anyway wants another dig at him too.

T-K-O

Frank Gallagher pissed wrote: »

yeh was just going say thats a pathetic comment.

Irish boxing fans might want to wise up all the abuse Fury and Macklin get, its not as if we have a range of pro boxers on the scene is it? In fact Irish pro boxing is in a terrible state. Those two are the only two anywhere close to world level along with Frampton, whos Northern Irish aswell incase anyway wants another dig at him too.

IMO a minority group.

I can;t speak about Fury but I always found Macklin very open and honest about his Irish connection.

Frank Gallagher pissed

Fury sees himself as British - Irish, thats fine with me.

In reality though the fans abuse him from every side!
I think hes hilarious hes not for everyone though

Frank Gallagher pissed

Whats fight time expected at anyone know?

Debating going out, but badly want to see the fight. Also I bet none of the pubs in my town will even know its on, most will probably be closed I suspect if its a late one.

wadacrack

Frankie Lee wrote: »

No need for that, I don't understand the hatred Irish people have towards British born people of Irish parents.

I have no hatred towards them. Its just that alot of british boxers claim to be Irish to crack America . I like Macklin

T-K-O

wadacrack wrote: »

I have no hatred towards them. Its just that alot of british boxers claim to be Irish to crack America . I like Macklin

That cannot be said about Macklin

MickFleetwood

Golovkin will stop him in a competitive fight, in my opinion.

yabadabado

wadacrack wrote: »

I have no hatred towards them. Its just that alot of british boxers claim to be Irish to crack America . I like Macklin

That can't be said about Macklin.Both parents Irish and he spent a lot of time here as a kid and still comes over here on a regular basis.Has nothing to do with trying to crack america.

wadacrack

Macklin never fought for the Irish Title but he did fight for the British one. In boxing terms hes British

MickFleetwood

wadacrack wrote: »

Macklin never fought for the Irish Title but he did fight for the British one. In boxing terms hes British

What does this even mean? In "boxing terms" he's British? The fúck?

He identifies as Irish as far as I know, and more to the point, this means very little anyhow. Semantics.

Rooting for him against GGG but he's most likely going to be leveled in a decent bout.

wadacrack

MickFleetwood wrote: »

What does this even mean? In "boxing terms" he's British? The fúck?

He identifies as Irish as far as I know, and more to the point, this means very little anyhow. Semantics.

Rooting for him against GGG but he's most likely going to be leveled in a decent bout.

You can the **** all you want. He fought for the British title so many english people are going to consider him one of their own.End of.

Hopefully he can put in a decent performance but GGG is something special

MickFleetwood

wadacrack wrote: »

You can the **** all you want. He fought for the British title so many english people are going to consider him one of their own.End of.

Hopefully he can put in a decent performance but GGG is something special

So if you contest for a British title, you're British.

wadacrack

MickFleetwood wrote: »

So if you contest for a British title, you're British.

He will be back fighting at that level after saturday

Johner

wadacrack wrote: »

He will be back fighting at that level after saturday

No he won't. :rolleyes: Macklin is more than capable of winning a world title and it won't be the end if he loses Saturday.

If Barker beats Geale, that would be a cracking fight for the UK.

wadacrack

Johner wrote: »

No he won't. :rolleyes: Macklin is more than capable of winning a world title and it won't be the end if he loses Saturday.

If Barker beats Geale, that would be a cracking fight for the UK.

Yeah a British fighter he will fight barker and Murray

EireIceMan

yabadabado wrote: »

That can't be said about Macklin.Both parents Irish and he spent a lot of time here as a kid and still comes over here on a regular basis.Has nothing to do with trying to crack america.

He used to play minor hurling for Tipp aswel if im not mistaken

bk2101

wadacrack wrote: »

Its just that alot of british boxers claim to be Irish to crack America

Can you name even one boxer who did this? There's much more money in being a British boxer than being Irish, so why would any British boxer pretend to be Irish? If they say they're Irish, it's much more likely to be because that's what they really consider themselves.

It's the same with Fury, he's a traveller, so that's probably the first thing he sees himself as, but from the travellers I know I'd say it's a lot more likely he's just paying lip service to the British side than the Irish side.

Big Ears

wadacrack wrote: »

Macklin never fought for the Irish Title but he did fight for the British one. In boxing terms hes British

You think you'd at least check something before making a bold (completely 100% incorrect) comment like that. Macklin fought for and won the Irish title in 2005.

I'm interested to see your reply....

wadacrack

Oh Michael Monaghan that wasnt on his record on wiki just checked boxrec. I Obviously have made a mistake no big deal. GGG vs martinez could happen after Golovkin wins on saturday night. Macklin vs Barker

MD1990

wadacrack wrote: »

Oh Michael Monaghan that wasnt on his record on wiki just checked boxrec. I Obviously have made a mistake no big deal. GGG vs martinez could happen after Golovkin wins on saturday night. Macklin vs Barker

do some research please
your talking rubbish its embarrassing

wadacrack

MD1990 wrote: »

do some research please
your talking rubbish its embarrassing

A simple mistake we all make them.After saturday Macklin will be sent packing his bags on a flight back to Ireland sorry I mean Britain

FTA69

wadacrack wrote: »

Macklin never fought for the Irish Title but he did fight for the British one. In boxing terms hes British

By your logic Joe Ward and John Joe Nevin are British; they fought for the British Lionhearts in York Hall under the Union Jack and stood for God Save the Queen.

walshb

Johner wrote: »

No he won't. :rolleyes: Macklin is more than capable of winning a world title and it won't be the end if he loses Saturday.

If Barker beats Geale, that would be a cracking fight for the UK.

Says it all really. Barker and Macklin fighting for a world title.

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

Says it all really. Barker and Macklin fighting for a world title.

Ah your turning into an old man Walsh, 'this era is terrible...';).

Macklin showed his quality in the fight against Martinez (a fighter who was top 3 p4p at the time), and also against Sturm. Now I know you really, really, really don't rate Sturm. Personally I think Sturm is/was a pretty good fighter, great jab, good defense, whacks hard enough despite his record and can be a very intelligent fighter at times, granted he doesn't look very spectacular. Regardless of that most felt Macklin beat Sturm anyway.

As for Barker, he also gave Martinez trouble, but in a different way and since his comeback he has really looked the goods. I actually think he stands a very good shout vs Geale, and I think Geale is a very good fighter. The strength & conditioning work Barker has been doing (aswell as his op) have made a massive massive difference to him.

So I don't see anything wrong with the thought, which of course will only occur if one or both men win their fights.

Brad Goodman

Am I the only person who thought Sturm did enough to hold onto his title against Macklin? I thought after a great start Macklin seriously gassed in that fight, as he did against Martinez, and Sturm did enough. In the final seconds of the final round Strum nearly knocked Macklin out. He was out on his feet at the final bell. 30 more seconds and I don't think he makes it.

Dick phelan

Big Ears wrote: »

Ah your turning into an old man Walsh, 'this era is terrible...';).

Macklin showed his quality in the fight against Martinez (a fighter who was top 3 p4p at the time), and also against Sturm. Now I know you really, really, really don't rate Sturm. Personally I think Sturm is/was a pretty good fighter, great jab, good defense, whacks hard enough despite his record and can be a very intelligent fighter at times, granted he doesn't look very spectacular. Regardless of that most felt Macklin beat Sturm anyway.

As for Barker, he also gave Martinez trouble, but in a different way and since his comeback he has really looked the goods. I actually think he stands a very good shout vs Geale, and I think Geale is a very good fighter. The strength & conditioning work Barker has been doing (aswell as his op) have made a massive massive difference to him.

So I don't see anything wrong with the thought, which of course will only occur if one or both men win their fights.

Agree fully anyone who tells me oh this era is nowhere near as good as boxing once was is not being fair, heavyweight division aside boxing is still as strong and has as much quality as before, some divisions like super bantam or 140 are as strong as i ever remember, compare the top 10 p4p today with those of other eras and i think you will find very little difference in quality

Syferus

Looking forward to this one, and to Mac bringing the world title back to Roscommon :pac:

cowzerp

No more nationality talk here, if he says he's Irish he is Irish.

His blood is Irish and he was here often growing up so it's clear he is on this case anyway.

Talk boxing from here on, leave politics out of it

gre

...really hope mac does it tonight he's goin to be one hell of proud irishman out there..lets hope he does the bussiness ...tonight well see if ggg is overrated or not!

rebelomar

If GGG is as good as the hype and as good as he has looked thus far he should be beating Macklin. Late stoppage for GGG here after a cracking fight imo. Looking forward to this! Best of luck to Mack hope he proves me wrong tonight.

MickFleetwood

Really excited for this now, been looking forward to it for a while. Brilliant year for boxing so far, all in all.

EireIceMan

Anyone have the boxers stats for the fight? Reach, height etc?

bellybuster12

What time is this due at? Is it a 2am job or a 5am job??

EireIceMan

bellybuster12 wrote: »

What time is this due at? Is it a 2am job or a 5am job??

Coverage starts at 2am on the channel im watching. 2.30am coverage on Box nation i believe. As for ring time, i dont know.

MickFleetwood

They'll be in the ring quite late I'd imagine. 4 or 5 in the morning.

darced

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the fella who

yabadabado wrote: »

That can't be said about Macklin.Both parents Irish and he spent a lot of time here as a kid and still comes over here on a regular basis.Has nothing to do with trying to crack america.

and played underage for tipp??

the fella who

what channells is it on??

The Banger Moran

No idea what channel it is on but on a completely separate matter if anyone got a good ommlette recipe I would really appreciate it.

MickFleetwood

darced wrote: »

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What a silly thing to say. Macklin is by far the best fighter Golovkin has ever faced, very handy fighter actually. He's faced a better fighter than Golovkin and fared quite well.

The Banger Moran

MickFleetwood wrote: »

What a silly thing to say. Macklin is by far the best fighter Golovkin has ever faced, very handy fighter actually. He's faced a better fighter than Golovkin and fared quite well.

A few years back it looked like we were about to enter a golden era of middle weight boxing in Ireland with Lee, Duddy, Macklin and one or two others.
Is Macklin definitely the best of them?
About four years ago I really would have thought Lee would wipe the floor with all the others but his career never got going despite having probably the best coach in the world.

yohan the great

Frankie Lee wrote: »

No need for that, I don't understand the hatred Irish people have towards British born people of Irish parents.

Not exactly a plastic Paddy either. He spent all his Summers in Ireland and played GAA with his local team.

Syferus

Really looks like Mac's camp is blowing smoke up this lad's backside. He's a 31 year-old whose coasted to a world title on power and average opponents. It's a wonder DiBella kept a straight face when he said he was second only to Martinez in terms of the most talented boxers in the world right now. It feels like they're setting GGG up for a fall and readying themselves to reap the rewards from a 'huge' victory.

Could be the night Macklin finally fulfills his promise but I expect a top class performance from our man either way.

Frankie Lee

I like that somewhat optimistic theory .

The Banger Moran

yohan the great wrote: »

Not exactly a plastic Paddy either. He spent all his Summers in Ireland and played GAA with his local team.

Thats a bit of an understatement. They guy was a Tipp minor hurler. (not exactly equal to a Kilkenny minor footballer!)
Some achievement for a guy that spent a few months a year in the country.

MickFleetwood

Syferus wrote: »

Really looks like Mac's camp is blowing smoke up this lad's backside. He's a 31 year-old whose coasted to a world title on power and average opponents. It's a wonder DiBella kept a straight face when he said he was second only to Martinez in terms of the most talented boxers in the world right now. It feels like they're setting GGG up for a fall and readying themselves to reap the rewards from a 'huge' victory.

Could be the night Macklin finally fulfills his promise but I expect a top class performance from our man either way.

He hasn't yet put together a brilliant resume, mainly because plenty of the top fighters refused to face him. Quillin stated it didn't make financial sense, (despite Golovkin now fully having HBO behind him, and is beginning to build a solid fan-base) Martinez wouldn't have it.

I dunno what middleweight would beat GGG, at the moment. Martinez looked completely past it against Murray and looks to be out for another year due to injury. Golovkin at this point would annihilate him. He'd walk straight through Sergio, landing right hands at an angle and pivoting his opponent. He has enough power, speed and accuracy to level him, IMO.

Golovkin-Geale would be a good fight, Geale being one of the best middleweights on the planet. Murray, Barker and Macklin all likely lose to him, despite the trio being a solid group of fighters.

He clearly has the ability, skill and amateur pedigree to become one of the best fighters in the middleweight division. Destructive puncher with an intelligent offensive approach. Excellent chin, underrated defense, with a brilliant sense of range and timing.

He's gonna go all the way, I feel. Let's see what happens tonight. I reckon Macklin will be competitive before getting flattened.