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The Journal.ie is Obsessed with numbers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,940 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    You would really hate Cracked.com then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    those are filler stories .... basically !!

    I mean how can you get a "story" from sitting in an office ... lets browse the interwebs and copy/paste some stuff and make a story about it.*

    * = I'm not saying thats what they do but it could very well be ! ..... I've never met a "reporter" or "photographer" from the journal/daily edge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Viper_JB


    People like to read lists :P?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,572 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    You need lighter articles to juxtapose against the doom and gloom. I don't see the harm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I like them.


    So there!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    The daily edge section is funny. It's like an Irish buzzfeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Liccle trinity


    Funnily enough i liked cracked.com but then cracked isnt supposed to be a proper news site.

    Yes i am aware people like lists but my gawd they have done it to death and content is dreadful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭paddyh117


    To be honest i think the Journals mix of serious stories and light-hearted entertainment is perfectly balanced - they are now my number 1 choice for news because of this.....

    there's plenty of rubbish, boring news websites out there (especially Irish ones) - maybe you would like the Aertel section on the RTE website more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    if you dont like those articles, then dont open them. nobody is forcing you to read them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Liccle trinity


    I dont open anymore (thanks for your enlighted response frankcarty)
    Its the quality that im giving out about. As previously mentioned I like the journal. I like the style in present in general but the lists is whats been done to death and content has gone downhill of late (6 months or so)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    Nine out of ten people like lists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    It's nothing but lazy....



    ...somebody finish that sentence for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    List of things thejournal like

    -Sinn Fein
    -Polls (usually involves repeating the same poll 'have you paid the proprty tax zzzz)
    -Ctrl+C
    -Ctrl+V


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    Nine out of ten people like lists.

    eleventeen people know that statistics are just made up and never show the true figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I've gone to the site twice in the last year, only because a story was linked in an OPs post on this site. It's funny that you'd get worked up about stupid top 10 lists, while their actual news articles are complete crap. The news reported by idiots, for idiots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    You know there is a 'Contact Us' link on the webpage.
    Why don't you just write to them and outline the top 7 reasons why you don't like all the number related articles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    The news content created by others reported copied by idiots, for idiots.

    That's more like it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    They like reading reddit ireland. Something usually appears there and a few days later its on the journal. Lazy journalism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    You know there is a 'Contact Us' link on the webpage.
    Why don't you just write to them and outline the top 7 reasons why you don't like all the number related articles?

    why limit it to top 7 !! .... they would probably think they are doing something good if someone takes the time to complain to them, its pointless...and they could/would probably make fun of the person and make/create a story by copying/pasting the correspondence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭Epicness


    LizT wrote: »
    The daily edge section is funny. It's like an Irish buzzfeed.

    Derivative, link-baiting, 'wooh internet epic meams' scum. Just what we need more of...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    Epicness wrote: »
    Derivative, link-baiting, 'wooh internet epic meams' scum. Just what we need more of...

    Yeah, you're right, we really need more of "More cuts on the way" "New taxes to be introduced" "Bank charges to rise" "Economy in recession" stories rather than a bit of frivolity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Ace Attorney


    Dont really blame them, they have to have filler articles aswell like, out of all the news app on my phone I visit the journal the most coz its the best of what weve got, they also seem to like to take a few ideas for articles from board's threads tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭neaideabh


    At least they are writing some of their own stories! Compared to the likes of joe.ie who is simply copying nearly every thing that balls.ie do! I follow both own facebook, and every time a balls.ie post appears on my newsfeed.... a joe.ie post with the same content will surely appear on the newsfeed shortly afterwards.

    Anyone know whats the story with joe.ie anyways... their website is like a simple blog now. They claimed that they were hacked but I don't know about that as that was a while ago now and the website is still very basic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    neaideabh wrote: »
    At least they are writing some of their own stories! Compared to the likes of joe.ie who is simply copying nearly every thing that balls.ie do! I follow both own facebook, and every time a balls.ie post appears on my newsfeed.... a joe.ie post with the same content will surely appear on the newsfeed shortly afterwards.

    Anyone know whats the story with joe.ie anyways... their website is like a simple blog now. They claimed that they were hacked but I don't know about that as that was a while ago now and the website is still very basic!

    do you have a link to prove that ?? also, do you consider re-writes as writing their own story ? I've never come across a reporter from the journal while working in the media for over 20yrs, I know they are only running a few years, but I dont know anyone who has ever met a journalist from the journal etc out and about on jobs.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    neaideabh wrote: »
    At least they are writing some of their own stories! Compared to the likes of joe.ie who is simply copying nearly every thing that balls.ie do! I follow both own facebook, and every time a balls.ie post appears on my newsfeed.... a joe.ie post with the same content will surely appear on the newsfeed shortly afterwards.

    Anyone know whats the story with joe.ie anyways... their website is like a simple blog now. They claimed that they were hacked but I don't know about that as that was a while ago now and the website is still very basic!

    A lot of articles are from other news sources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭neaideabh


    Corkbah wrote: »
    do you have a link to prove that ?? also, do you consider re-writes as writing their own story ? I've never come across a reporter from the journal while working in the media for over 20yrs, I know they are only running a few years, but I dont know anyone who has ever met a journalist from the journal etc out and about on jobs.


    This is an article that was written for the journal... They have a few contributors from different backgrounds. I'm not saying that the journal is a "world class" news publisher but they have made an impact in today's irish media! It's cheap and cheeerful! The Irish Independent are trying to follow suit by making it's website and content more social and try and make ground on the younger market that thejournal.ie has been attracting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Carnegie


    neaideabh wrote: »
    The Irish Independent are trying to follow suit by making it's website and content more social and try and make ground on the younger market that thejournal.ie has been attracting!

    the independent may try and copy the journal, but they will censor the fcuk out of all the comments, whereas the journal publish all comments as they are not linked to any political party and have no agenda to push


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    neaideabh wrote: »
    This is an article that was written for the journal...

    could this be because mainstream media may not have published the article ? might be suited to a political journal, or newsletter.

    Have the journal ever "broke" a story ...any investigative journalism, any fresh news ?

    for me ... the journal is only providing a platform for people who may not otherwise get published in mainstream media, and to fill the many gaps left in between what "original" content they do have they copy and paste from other websites - as the start of this thread is all about - copy and paste lists that other people/websites created.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Shoutcast Ireland


    did any one see the spat on twitter between them and the irish mirror,the irish mirror ended up getting mad and post the person number of the person that owns/runs the journal and calling them thieves for robbing all the stories.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Eggonyerface


    The pointless gifs do my head in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    did any one see the spat on twitter between them and the irish mirror,the irish mirror ended up getting mad and post the person number of the person that owns/runs the journal and calling them thieves for robbing all the stories.

    Yeah, sites robbing stories can get seriously juicy, serious twitter spats.

    Photographers are the real deal though, they'd serial kill to get back their copyright to a photo.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭shamtastic


    The Journal is all about the comments section! I regularly skip the article to get a quick laugh :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭neaideabh


    shamtastic wrote: »
    The Journal is all about the comments section! I regularly skip the article to get a quick laugh :)

    That's the truth! and that was my point earlier... The Irish Independent are trying to go that direction on their website, however, as one poster pointed out earlier, they censor the shiite out of the comments!

    I go to the journal for the the comments.... I see a headline.... click on it and scroll straight down to the comments! A quick fix for a bit of banter and a trollers haven! The comments can also give a general viewpoint on how people feel about certain issues.

    The Journal, have done their research... well, they know what the people want anyways! To highlight the days news and to remind people of school, their youth, the toys the played with, the music they listened and everything retro basically!

    And it works, it gets you the news, but it brings nostalgia to the older thirty sometings who would know how to go on an trip down memory lane via the internet!


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Armani Bewildered Topcoat


    The comments sections are the only reason I go to news sites, except for RT, I actually read their stuff. Their comment sections are also terrific reading, particularly when the topic is Obama, or George Dubya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    It's like some of you guys know all the websites.
    I just know boards, facebook and porn.com :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    neaideabh wrote: »
    That's the truth! and that was my point earlier... The Irish Independent are trying to go that direction on their website, however, as one poster pointed out earlier, they censor the shiite out of the comments!

    I go to the journal for the the comments.... I see a headline.... click on it and scroll straight down to the comments! A quick fix for a bit of banter and a trollers haven! The comments can also give a general viewpoint on how people feel about certain issues.

    It is in its arse, their 'poll' before the last GE showed Sinn Fein winning an overall majority. The comments section is like a cross between Indymedia and An Poblacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Nine out of ten people like lists.

    How many like surveys?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Im sick of seeing useless articles on the Journal.ie/Daily Edge about "Top 7 things to know about ....." or "9 most annoying things about...." or some other random Dos & Donts of sleeping. Really inane articles. Its a pity as the rest of their news is just fine but these articles smack of scrapping the barrel. Surely they have find something of more use and interest than these

    Haha, was just thinking that today. People love lists I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    "top 10 things we stole from reddit this week"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Hey I know right! Go to Listverse, it will provide the antithesis for what you're looking for. Don't be thrown off by the title either, that's just their sense of irony.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭TINA1984


    5 THINGS YOU'VE DONE ON BOARDS.IE*

    Board.ie, a popular irish website is in the news this week with it being NAMA'd due to its sister site going belly up. Sure haven't we all done time on boards? We've put together a list that every person you know* has encountered whilst browsing the legendary Irish website.

    -pic of cat-

    1. Get a mod warning

    c'mon we've all done it!

    -Pic of cat at computer-

    2. Browsed their obscure forums!

    "wow they've a forum about mustard" they so crazy!

    -Gif of a cat on a dinner table pawing a jar of mustard-

    3. Thanked a post!

    Y'know like someone has said exactly what you said, amazing! you can thank them for typing what you wanted them to type VIRTUALLY!

    -meme of cat looking in mirror-

    4. Got banned from a boards.ie forum

    Who knew calling a sports team manager a Spanish Waiter would see your access denied!

    -Hitler Cat Pic-

    5. Read the Personal Issues forum

    You thought you were weird until you read the problems people post here, sometime's you read things that are eerily familiar. Wow that guy who beats his wife sounds like my uncle Seamus!

    -Pic of cat with beer bottle


    *Provided you're a college educated middle class 20/30 something

    VIEW COMMENTS BY POPULARITY

    Yeah Face Kickers a Legund!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭itsnotmyname


    Wheres the "thumbs down" icon Boards ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭neaideabh


    "top 10 things we stole from reddit this week"

    Yeah but the Journal does a good job at bringing these items to those who wouldn't know that reddit, stumble upon (even boards.ie for that matter) existed!


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