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Cork to Dublin train this morning

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    #32
    eejoynt
    Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭eejoynt


    That's the spirit...getting out from under the false positives of friends of IE and IE staff

    This post is in the best tradition of c and t
    Leadership from a moderator !

    Foggy lad lives on !!

    " just checked, according to the online booking tool, all the Mark IV's to Cork are 5 carriage sets, rather then 8 you had in the past!!

    Of the 14 services a day to Cork, according to the online booking tool:

    4 are 3 carriage 22ks!
    2 are 6 carriage 22ks
    8 are 5 carriage Mark IV's

    That seems to be a significant reduction from the past!

    I stand to be corrected on the Mark IV's, but in the past I remember the online booking tool showing all carriages on the train, with just some unbookable."


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    #33
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,316 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    eejoynt wrote: »
    That's the spirit...getting out from under the false positives of friends of IE and IE staff

    This post is in the best tradition of c and t
    Leadership from a moderator !

    Foggy lad lives on !!
    I, and quite a few others, are fed up of comments like this, so kindly desist.

    Moderator
    " just checked, according to the online booking tool, all the Mark IV's to Cork are 5 carriage sets, rather then 8 you had in the past!!

    Of the 14 services a day to Cork, according to the online booking tool:

    4 are 3 carriage 22ks!
    2 are 6 carriage 22ks
    8 are 5 carriage Mark IV's

    That seems to be a significant reduction from the past!

    I stand to be corrected on the Mark IV's, but in the past I remember the online booking tool showing all carriages on the train, with just some unbookable."
    Are you counting first class, dining car and DVT?


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    #34
    Richard Logue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Richard Logue


    Victor wrote: »
    I, and quite a few others, are fed up of comments like this, so kindly desist.

    Moderator

    Are you counting first class, dining car and DVT?

    There were seven carriages and the driving trailer on the train. Bk put the jersey away mate!


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    #35
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Victor wrote: »
    Are you counting first class, dining car and DVT?

    Yes, the online tool for Mark IV's show one first class, one dinning car and 3 standard class carriages.

    However I'm not doubting lxflyer, I just remember the booking tool showing the full train in the past, with some carriages blocked out, so I was surprised to see just the 5 now, but maybe they changed it in the tool recently.


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    #36
    SpaceTime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Yeah, that's definitely the case. They don't let you book the last few coaches and never have.

    It's just A,B,C,D and E.

    In the earlier days they only had A,B,C bookable.


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    #37
    Richard Logue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Richard Logue


    bk wrote: »
    Yes, the online tool for Mark IV's show one first class, one dinning car and 3 standard class carriages.

    However I'm not doubting lxflyer, I just remember the booking tool showing the full train in the past, with some carriages blocked out, so I was surprised to see just the 5 now, but maybe they changed it in the tool recently.

    I can prove the train was a full set bk, having videoed it arriving onto the platform I can put it up on YouTube. Hopefully you'll take my word for it though!


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    #38
    davidlacey
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭davidlacey


    We are really fighting over spilt milk here, It doesnt matter if they have reduced the set to five which I for one have not seen as I have been at kildare station a number of times over the past couple of weeks and have seen no change to the sets, plus I have never seen a 3 car 22K set to Cork but anyway, the main fact IE cant get away from is the obvious, passenger numbers are falling overall across the network since the recession has kicked in ,I would imagine people are attracted by these offers, I am one of those people but, Once IE end these offers which they will at some stage these rise in numbers will fall again, its a vicious circle, once you give people a deal they will expect it constantly and once you cant deliver on that offer people will leave and look for the better deal such as a competitor coach on that route, not rocket science


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    #39
    omicron
    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭omicron


    davidlacey wrote: »
    We are really fighting over spilt milk here, It doesnt matter if they have reduced the set to five which I for one have not seen as I have been at kildare station a number of times over the past couple of weeks and have seen no change to the sets, plus I have never seen a 3 car 22K set to Cork but anyway, the main fact IE cant get away from is the obvious, passenger numbers are falling overall across the network since the recession has kicked in ,I would imagine people are attracted by these offers, I am one of those people but, Once IE end these offers which they will at some stage these rise in numbers will fall again, its a vicious circle, once you give people a deal they will expect it constantly and once you cant deliver on that offer people will leave and look for the better deal such as a competitor coach on that route, not rocket science

    Not really, give people a deal and they will use the train. A lot of them will (re?)discover the comfort and speed of the train and will decide to use it in future at €42 return. Ideally the fare would be lower but obviously it can't be the case.

    Also a lot of people may not be aware that the walk up fare isn't the only fare, they will find out about the cheap fares from advertising, and in booking them may realise that booking in advance is always cheaper and may switch to the train.


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    #40
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,682 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    That's the spirit...getting out from under the false positives of friends of IE and IE staff

    This post is in the best tradition of c and t
    Leadership from a moderator !

    Foggy lad lives on !!

    " just checked, according to the online booking tool, all the Mark IV's to Cork are 5 carriage sets, rather then 8 you had in the past!!

    Of the 14 services a day to Cork, according to the online booking tool:

    4 are 3 carriage 22ks!
    2 are 6 carriage 22ks
    8 are 5 carriage Mark IV's

    That seems to be a significant reduction from the past!

    I stand to be corrected on the Mark IV's, but in the past I remember the online booking tool showing all carriages on the train, with just some unbookable."

    Online bookings only show Frist Class, Dinning Cart, 3 Standard Class. Then there is 2 other Standard Class.

    There is 2 other Standard Class carriages are not shown online, one the quiet carriage and the other is released if demand is there.

    The sets were designed to operate in 8 piece sets however they operate with 7, AFAIK they have not operated on a regularly in 8 coach sets at all. Not counting the DVT.

    So instead of being a complete P****, do some research and get your facts right before you jump to conclusions and then post them here.

    Foggy lad would post correct facts in relation to train sizes and his conurbations are somewhat more credible than yours any day.


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    #41
    Con Logue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭Con Logue


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »

    Foggy lad would post correct facts in relation to train sizes and his conurbations are somewhat more credible than yours any day.

    Not sure I'd want to live in a foggy run conurbation? Is this a plot to turn Carlow into a megapolis of 5 million people offering free transport on privately run buses?


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    #42
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Richard Logue wrote: »
    I can prove the train was a full set bk, having videoed it arriving onto the platform I can put it up on YouTube. Hopefully you'll take my word for it though!

    Absolutely no need, I'm totally happy to take your and everyone else's word for it.
    omicron wrote: »
    Not really, give people a deal and they will use the train. A lot of them will (re?)discover the comfort and speed of the train and will decide to use it in future at €42 return. Ideally the fare would be lower but obviously it can't be the case.

    You might hope that, on the other hand have gotten a taste for the coaches and having seen how comfortable and cheap they are, many might not be willing to go back to €42 (or €68 which is what a peak time pre-booked return fare now costs!).

    Anyway the €12 fares are very off-peak, so they won't suit the majority of coach users anyway.
    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    So instead of being a complete P****, do some research and get your facts right before you jump to conclusions and then post them here.

    There really isn't any need for language like that here! Remember the golden rule of boards: "attack the post, not the poster"

    In my post, I specifically said I was open to being corrected and when I was I immediately accepted it. I learned something new today, that the IR booking system doesn't show all carriages. There really isn't any need to stoup to name calling like that!


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    #43
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,682 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    bk wrote: »

    There really isn't any need for language like that here! Remember the golden rule of boards: "attack the post, not the poster"

    In my post, I specifically said I was open to being corrected and when I was I immediately accepted it. I learned something new today, that the IR booking system doesn't show all carriages. There really isn't any need to stoup to name calling like that!

    None of my post referred to you and I didn't attack the poster, in this case "eejoynt" was posting something he knew nothing about and I would even go and say he was trolling.

    As for not releasing all coaches on the ICR's it the opposite, they release all of them but the ones with 36 seats are larger, they have either 54 or 64 seats.


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    #44
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,316 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    So instead of being a complete P****, do some research and get your facts right before you jump to conclusions and then post them here.

    Foggy lad would post correct facts in relation to train sizes and his conurbations are somewhat more credible than yours any day.
    No personal abuse, please.

    Moderator


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    #45
    SpaceTime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I just wish the MK4 seats were a bit more comfortable. I find them a bit too thin and lacking in springiness.

    Also the lack of sockets really is a deal breaker for me on the Cork Dublin service.


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    #46
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    bk wrote: »
    Absolutely no need, I'm totally happy to take your and everyone else's word for it.



    You might hope that, on the other hand have gotten a taste for the coaches and having seen how comfortable and cheap they are, many might not be willing to go back to €42 (or €68 which is what a peak time pre-booked return fare now costs!).

    Anyway the €12 fares are very off-peak, so they won't suit the majority of coach users anyway.



    There really isn't any need for language like that here! Remember the golden rule of boards: "attack the post, not the poster"

    In my post, I specifically said I was open to being corrected and when I was I immediately accepted it. I learned something new today, that the IR booking system doesn't show all carriages. There really isn't any need to stoup to name calling like that!

    And you are not a moderator of this forum.


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    #47
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    And you are not a moderator of this forum.

    You are correct, but then I thought it would be better to just mention it rather then report it and get Jamie in trouble.

    In future I'll just report it so and leave it to the mods.

    BTW Sorry about this OT post!


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    #48
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    bk wrote: »
    You are correct, but then I thought it would be better to just mention it rather then report it and get Jamie in trouble.

    In future I'll just report it so and leave it to the mods.

    BTW Sorry about this OT post!

    Please do otherwise you will be infracted for back seat modding!
    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    And you are not a moderator of this forum.

    You're not as well! :)


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