Arts In Maynooth

jayjayxo

I have Just finished the Leaving cert and looking to study Arts @ Maynooth. I picked arts as im really not sure what i would like to do and i like that there is a broad range of subjects to choose from!

Im thinking of studying Social Science,Psychology, and maybe geography, also like Business but i cant study Psychology and Business together!!


A few Questions:
Anyway Can you change subjects in the first few weeks if its not working out?
Whats arts like in Maynooth overall?
I come from a small town and i picked maynooth because i dont like the sound of going to a huge uni like Ucd or Trinity, Whats Maynooth like as a college?

Thanks in advance guys:)

Boeing777

Not sure what Arts itself is like because I do Science, but I do know that you have a good few weeks at the beginning to finalise your subjects. You are welcome to sit into any lectures during the first few weeks to get a taste for the subjects on offer.
As for Maynooth itself, it's a fantastic place! Great college, great people and great facilities. It's not too big and it's not too small. You'll love it!

Turtyturd

I just finished Social Science, and AFAIK it cannot be done through general Arts, although is some cases you can switch at the end of first year. It's also for people who have an idea of what they want to do afterwards, mainly in the areas of Social Work/Care/Policy. In 1st year it is similar to an Arts degree as you do three subjects, with Social Policy being compulsory, and Sociology highly recommended.

I did general Arts in first year and I think you have 2 weeks too change your course, although I would recommend that you go to lectures for all the subjects you are interested in during the first few weeks. I'd also give a lot of thought to which subjects you want to study because you are going to get stuck with two of them for your degree, so make sure that they are ones you enjoy (this also really makes it not feel like work), because I know a few people who banked on getting into second year psychology and got stuck doing subjects they didn't enjoy when they failed to get the required marks.

Woodward

Why are you going to college if you do not know what you want to do? There are many people who have their hearts set on a chosen career yet they cannot attend for financial reasons. Consider the burden you are putting on the system by on a whim. College isnt mandatory and it doesnt make sense to attend if you are not going to get a job with your degree

Thwip!

Becoming educated is never a burden

endacl

Woodward wrote: »

Why are you going to college if you do not know what you want to do? There are many people who have their hearts set on a chosen career yet they cannot attend for financial reasons. Consider the burden you are putting on the system by on a whim. College isnt mandatory and it doesnt make sense to attend if you are not going to get a job with your degree

WTF??

Jacques Mesrine

Why is it that so many people want to study psychology? If you want to learn about people, read history. You will learn far more about the human condition in history than you will in psychology.

endacl

Jacques Mesrine wrote: »

Why is it that so many people want to study psychology? If you want to learn about people, read history. You will learn far more about the human condition in history than you will in psychology.

Again...

WTF??

Vinoveritas

jayjayxo wrote: »

I have Just finished the Leaving cert and looking to study Arts @ Maynooth. I picked arts as im really not sure what i would like to do and i like that there is a broad range of subjects to choose from!

Im thinking of studying Social Science,Psychology, and maybe geography, also like Business but i cant study Psychology and Business together!!


A few Questions:
Anyway Can you change subjects in the first few weeks if its not working out?
Whats arts like in Maynooth overall?
I come from a small town and i picked maynooth because i dont like the sound of going to a huge uni like Ucd or Trinity, Whats Maynooth like as a college?

Thanks in advance guys:)

If you are really unsure what it is you wish to study, you might benefit by taking a year out to work and/or travel to give you a chance to explore your options more fully. The drop out rate in 3rd level is phenomenal (anyone know the rate for 2012-13)? However, in the absence of knowing what you really want to do - you cannot go to far wrong with a good Arts Degree. I believe NUIM give you the chance to try out all their subjects before committing to your 3 subjects for first year. So you could in theory try out a mix of th computer sciences, the humanities and business. At the end of the day try and choose a combination that you enjoy - as you will continue with two of rhese subjects to degree level. A friends son has put Arts in NUIM as his first option, and the new(?) first year Arts programme with NUIM in Kilkenny as his 2nd option. Like you the smaller campus appeals. Good luck with whatever you decide

Woodward

Thwip! wrote: »

Becoming educated is never a burden

It is on the tax payer and on the university

mickstupp

Woodward wrote: »

It is on the tax payer and on the university

Yeah! And let's not even consider how much extra tax we'll pay over a lifetime with our qualifications that give us access to better jobs! Hell no. That's obviously irrelevant and we should clearly just refuse to look beyond the simplistic arguments.

Woodward

mickstupp wrote: »

Yeah! And let's not even consider how much extra tax we'll pay over a lifetime with our qualifications that give us access to better jobs! Hell no. That's obviously irrelevant and we should clearly just refuse to look beyond the simplistic arguments.

Arts degrees are hardly a guarantee of a well paying job plus paying tax in the future is no good to the students who arent able to attend college now because the country is in the ****ter

XxMCRxBabyxX

Woodward wrote: »

Arts degrees are hardly a guarantee of a well paying job plus paying tax in the future is no good to the students who arent able to attend college now because the country is in the ****ter

And someone doing an Arts degree won't affect them will it?

No degree guarantees a well paying job but having one certainly makes it a lot more likely. Sure some of the partners in the top law firms in Ireland did Arts degrees, not knowing what they wanted to do, and they're definitely earning plenty now.

freeze4real

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Sure some of the partners in the top law firms in Ireland did Arts degrees, not knowing what they wanted to do, and they're definitely earning plenty now.

That was back in the days before the recession.

I was taking to my lecturer that while I had good results i wanted to repeat 2 modules.

And he replied by saying 5 years ago my result would have gotten me the job I wanted.

And that's true, looking on LinkedIn the amount of guys who were working in my field with degree's that's not relevant the the job requirements is huge.

Today to get a job in that field you would need a minimum of 550 leaving cert points and 1.1 in mathematical field.

Point is while those partners got in a few years ago, I am confident that over 60% will not be able to get in now.

freeze4real

NUIM offers 2 weeks of what's college like offering a glimpse of what taking a degree such as arts , economics biology etc.

It's summer experience.

And it has already started.

http://admissions.nuim.ie/studentsummerexperiencemaynooth.shtml

XxMCRxBabyxX

freeze4real wrote: »

That was back in the days before the recession.

I was taking to my lecturer that while I had good results i wanted to repeat 2 modules.

And he replied by saying 5 years ago my result would have gotten me the job I wanted.

And that's true, looking on LinkedIn the amount of guys who were working in my field with degree's that's not relevant the the job requirements is huge.

Today to get a job in that field you would need a minimum of 550 leaving cert points and 1.1 in mathematical field.

Point is while those partners got in a few years ago, I am confident that over 60% will not be able to get in now.

Considering that most of these guys trained in the 80s during our last recession that point doesn't stand I'm afraid.

To be honest, from what I have seen, these days companies care a lot more about work experience than degree results. And very few even notice LC results.

freeze4real

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Considering that most of these guys trained in the 80s during our last recession that point doesn't stand I'm afraid.

To be honest, from what I have seen, these days companies care a lot more about work experience than degree results. And very few even notice LC results.

Employers care about a lot of stuff such as work experience L.C results, societies and clubs.

The big accounting companies look at L.C results anything below 450 is a no go.

Some accounting companies lookt at points over 400.

Companies that deal with high quants look at points over 500, societies in college, and recreation and hobbies.

And the

XxMCRxBabyxX

freeze4real wrote: »

Employers care about a lot of stuff such as work experience L.C results, societies and clubs.

The big accounting companies look at L.C results anything below 450 is a no go.

Some accounting companies lookt at points over 400.

Companies that deal with high quants look at points over 500, societies in college, and recreation and hobbies.

And the

It's the same with the big 5 law firms but they will look around points if the rest of your cv can really impress. It's never just clear cut.

Take this from (a very lucky) someone with less than 400 points who got in a firm who would follow the same rules as above. What I'm telling you is what was told to me.

Vinoveritas

A recent conversation that I had with a HR Director in a very large global organisation looks for the following skill set from graduates who apply to their organisation:

1. 2.1 or 1st (prefers 2.1 with lots of evidence of being a team player), than a 1st with no evidence of extra curricular activity. They also are looking for evidence of previous employment e.g. part-time jobs/internships held since turning 16. This can include voluntary work.

2. They recruit graduates from across all disciplines. The key skills they seek are evidence of transferable skills e.g.
good communication; team player; motivated; critical thinker; lateral thinker and someone who is prepared to link into Continuous Professional Development throughout their life cycle with their organisation.

3. Whilst some of their roles are subject specific e.g. engineering, even then they look for all of the above attributes.

Finally, in the last few years they have hired graduates from across all disciplines including the Humanities.

Thwip!

Woodward wrote: »

It is on the tax payer and on the university

Yeah....because it's not like they'll eventually get jobs, pay taxes and thus help someone go to university just like what happened to them.

Woodward wrote: »

Arts degrees are hardly a guarantee of a well paying job plus paying tax in the future is no good to the students who arent able to attend college now because the country is in the ****ter

What degree is a guarantee?

So someone who isn't sure on what they want to do shouldn't go to college because someone else can't attend college because of the economy?

Mind boggles

jayjayxo

Burden on the system???
Im 17 years old and im not sure exactly what i want to do, if you didnt know thats completely normal for a teen my age, thats why i picked arts as theres a good range of subjects and i thought it would be interesting!

jayjayxo

Thanks a million!

Vinoveritas

How do we measure success in life? Is it our results in the Leaving Certificate? Is it our results in College? We measure our success in life by becoming all rounded, mature and reflective human beings. Those who study subjects that they are passionate about will have the chance to excel. Personally, I would prefer to employ someone who is passionate about a subject, than someone who only studied it to gain a job. The current economic climate is forcing too many college applicants to choose disciplines that they hope will lead to employment. Take it from someone who has been around the block - do not waste your time and your parents resources by signing up to courses that suit the needs of the economy before your own needs. EXCEL at something you enjoy, and if necessary use your postgraduate studies to specialise in an area that will lead to future employment!! RANT OVER!!

WhiskeyGoblin

I signed up for the prospect og a good paying job, I'm carrying it out for the amount of fun and enjoyment I get from it. Total turn around.


You've nothing to lose, if you don't like it, drop out early, money back and you can re apply with out the massive fee. No harm in trying lad!

Jacques Mesrine

Vinoveritas wrote: »

How do we measure success in life? Is it our results in the Leaving Certificate? Is it our results in College? We measure our success in life by becoming all rounded, mature and reflective human beings. Those who study subjects that they are passionate about will have the chance to excel. Personally, I would prefer to employ someone who is passionate about a subject, than someone who only studied it to gain a job. The current economic climate is forcing too many college applicants to choose disciplines that they hope will lead to employment. Take it from someone who has been around the block - do not waste your time and your parents resources by signing up to courses that suit the needs of the economy before your own needs. EXCEL at something you enjoy, and if necessary use your postgraduate studies to specialise in an area that will lead to future employment!! RANT OVER!!

In college, many people will work a part time job just to make ends meet and that job will probably have no relevance to their degree. However, in the real world that is what you have to do to make ends meet.

It would be wonderful if we could pick and chose the jobs we want but it's not like that and we must take what we can get.

And I would say to anyone who spends three years in college to think very carefully what they want to study and don't just do it because you are passionate about it. Make sure what you study will get you a job. There are plenty of jobs which require a 'general' degree but what's wrong with having a specialist degree which qualifies you for the general degree critieria and also gives you a certain specialisation in a given profession?

I wouldn't buy into this lark about college being about the experience. If you want to experience college without having to pay fees you can always sign on for the year and experience that.

this is 3-4 years of your life. Use them wisely and don't p.iss them up against the wall like most people do.

PictureFrame

Jacques Mesrine wrote: »

Why is it that so many people want to study psychology? If you want to learn about people, read history. You will learn far more about the human condition in history than you will in psychology.

I'm a 2nd year Psychology student and your post is completely inaccurate.

Jacques Mesrine

PictureFrame wrote: »

I'm a 2nd year Psychology student and your post is completely inaccurate.

I have 5 phds, it's as accurate as accurate gets.

How so Joe

Jacques Mesrine wrote: »

I have 5 phds, it's as accurate as accurate gets.

5 PhDs but you only got a 2:2 in your law degree? I've no PhDs, but even I managed a 2:1.

As for studying what you're passionate about in college, I think it's a much better idea than going into something which you think will pay well. After all, if you get a job doing something you truly love, work will be something you enjoy doing, rather than 35-40 hours a week of torture.

Pudsy33

So........arts?

Jacques Mesrine

How so Joe wrote: »

5 PhDs but you only got a 2:2 in your law degree? I've no PhDs, but even I managed a 2:1.

As for studying what you're passionate about in college, I think it's a much better idea than going into something which you think will pay well. After all, if you get a job doing something you truly love, work will be something you enjoy doing, rather than 35-40 hours a week of torture.

Am I supposed to be offended by that? 2:1 2;2 doesn't make a difference to me. Ability is nothing without opportunity.

There's plenty of people out there with phds making 30-40 grand a year, Now if you work that out, it can 6-8 years to get a phd including time spent obtaining a degree. Doesn't sound like a worthwhile investment to me if your going to be making that kind of money and by no way is it smart by any standards.

But sure if you're 'passionate' about it. One thing the college isn't short of is churning out students with big egos.

2:2, don't make me laugh.

Seren_

Jacques Mesrine - please quit with the antagonistic posting style. Any more trolling and you will be taking a break from this forum.