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Kids screaming in supermarkets - is it reaching breaking point?

  • 21-06-2013 08:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    This is something that's really starting to bother me, I've even tried shopping at different times etc but to no avail.

    A particularly bad incident occurred last Monday evening in my local Aldi. Usually I just walk to another part of the supermarket and carry on my shopping but this time there was around 4 different sets of screaming brats all scattered throughout various locations in the supermarket so there was no getting away from them. Jumping into and out of trolleys and everything. It was those loud piercing screams you can't ignore.

    I work Mon-Fri 9-5 so shopping is confined to evenings and weekends. It is so distracting and irritating though listening to that crap when trying to shop and while some parents tried to console the little sh1tes, others just carried on shopping oblivious to the annoyance their kids were causing to the shoppers. I don't have children but if I did and they carried on like that, I'd probably leave the shop with them and come back another time or come back at a time when alone.

    To top off the horrible experience that day, there was a queue of about 5 people at the checkout and this little brat in front of me (around 4 years old) was screaming high pitch at the top of his voice at his mother to buy him some kind of sweets or something he picked up near the checkout. She just ignored him as if he didn't exist and the brat started throwing the packet at her and hitting her and shouting, crying more.

    I'm 30 now and asked my mother was it like that when I was a young lad, and she said it wasn't so is it something modern causing this? Shovelling them with crap food so they are hyper? Not smacking children to discipline them any more? Lack of exercise?

    Also does this bother other people as much as it bothers me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    No, I don't think it is reaching breaking point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    This is something that's really starting to bother me, I've even tried shopping at different times etc but to no avail.

    A particularly bad incident occurred last Monday evening in my local Aldi. Usually I just walk to another part of the supermarket and carry on my shopping but this time there was around 4 different sets of screaming brats all scattered throughout various locations in the supermarket so there was no getting away from them. Jumping into and out of trolleys and everything. It was those loud piercing screams you can't ignore.

    I work Mon-Fri 9-5 so shopping is confined to evenings and weekends. It is so distracting and irritating though listening to that crap when trying to shop and while some parents tried to console the little sh1tes, others just carried on shopping oblivious to the annoyance their kids were causing to the shoppers. I don't have children but if I did and they carried on like that, I'd probably leave the shop with them and come back another time or come back at a time when alone.

    To top off the horrible experience that day, there was a queue of about 5 people at the checkout and this little brat in front of me (around 4 years old) was screaming high pitch at the top of his voice at his mother to buy him some kind of sweets or something he picked up near the checkout. She just ignored him as if he didn't exist and the brat started throwing the packet at her and hitting her and shouting, crying more.

    I'm 30 now and asked my mother was it like that when I was a young lad, and she said it wasn't so is it something modern causing this? Shovelling them with crap food so they are hyper? Not smacking children to discipline them any more? Lack of exercise?

    Also does this bother other people as much as it bothers me?
    She's lying.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I'm 30 now and asked my mother was it like that when I was a young lad, and she said it wasn't so is it something modern causing this? Shovelling them with crap food so they are hyper? Not smacking children to discipline them any more? Lack of exercise?

    Eureka!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    I'm 30 now and asked my mother was it like that when I was a young lad, and she said it wasn't so is it something modern causing this?
    Selective memory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    What a 1st world problem if I ever heard one.

    Maybe you should just never venture outside again OP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Why were you shopping with your mother if you're 30?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    so is it something modern causing this? Shovelling them with crap food so they are hyper? Not smacking children to discipline them any more? Lack of exercise?

    People who isn't capable of controlling kids are having kids and bloody loads of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    Why were you shopping with your mother if you're 30?

    Where does it say in my post I shop with my mother at 30?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    This is one of THE most 1st world problems I have ever heard. Maybe we should stop breeding in the hope it eliminates this most unseemly of behaviors :O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    You dont have kids so you dont understand what its like. They are just being kids and dont know any better. The parent shouldnt be expected to parent and make sure their child is being a pain in the ass to everyone else. If they have a problem with it they can go elsewhere. Etc etc (note:not my belief, jst what we will be bombarded with)

    You cannot win, you dont have a child therefor you automatically lose in an arguement against someone who does


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Jumping into and out of trolleys and everything.

    Kids just wanna be free - to do what they wanna do.

    Why do you hate children OP?

    Leave the little children alone. They're only babies really.

    Yeah, stop hurting babies FFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    She's lying.

    Is she though? It seems you can't even go shopping any time of the day now without being subjected to this crap. Anyone around in the 80's remember was it as bad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Tesco deliver..
    That's all I'm saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Forgive me but it seemed too appropriate.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    tesco.ie

    fill your boots


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Forgive me but it seemed too appropriate.

    Damn it I was just about to post that :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    This is something that's really starting to bother me, I've even tried shopping at different times etc but to no avail.

    A particularly bad incident occurred last Monday evening in my local Aldi. Usually I just walk to another part of the supermarket and carry on my shopping but this time there was around 4 different sets of screaming brats all scattered throughout various locations in the supermarket so there was no getting away from them. Jumping into and out of trolleys and everything. It was those loud piercing screams you can't ignore.

    I work Mon-Fri 9-5 so shopping is confined to evenings and weekends. It is so distracting and irritating though listening to that crap when trying to shop and while some parents tried to console the little sh1tes, others just carried on shopping oblivious to the annoyance their kids were causing to the shoppers. I don't have children but if I did and they carried on like that, I'd probably leave the shop with them and come back another time or come back at a time when alone.

    To top off the horrible experience that day, there was a queue of about 5 people at the checkout and this little brat in front of me (around 4 years old) was screaming high pitch at the top of his voice at his mother to buy him some kind of sweets or something he picked up near the checkout. She just ignored him as if he didn't exist and the brat started throwing the packet at her and hitting her and shouting, crying more.

    I'm 30 now and asked my mother was it like that when I was a young lad, and she said it wasn't so is it something modern causing this? Shovelling them with crap food so they are hyper? Not smacking children to discipline them any more? Lack of exercise?

    Also does this bother other people as much as it bothers me?

    I think that was sister with her kids , was there a toddler there as well running wild ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    The worst are the parents that just walk ahead looking oblivious saying ",doras ,calm down doras",while little doras is sitting on the floor screaming.

    Oh another note,what's wrong with going shopping with your mother when you're 30?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,414 ✭✭✭Quandary


    Tesco 24 hour shopping is the way to go IMO. We go at about 11pm and get the shopping done in half the usual time.

    screaming whelps are usually in bed at this stage :)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    doras ,calm down doras",while little doras is sitting on the floor screaming.

    Doras? They really are the worst if they named their kid 'door'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Till your the parent dealing with the above situation

    You haven't a ****ing clue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭traineeacc


    This is something that's really starting to bother me, I've even tried shopping at different times etc but to no avail.

    A particularly bad incident occurred last Monday evening in my local Aldi. Usually I just walk to another part of the supermarket and carry on my shopping but this time there was around 4 different sets of screaming brats all scattered throughout various locations in the supermarket so there was no getting away from them. Jumping into and out of trolleys and everything. It was those loud piercing screams you can't ignore.

    I work Mon-Fri 9-5 so shopping is confined to evenings and weekends. It is so distracting and irritating though listening to that crap when trying to shop and while some parents tried to console the little sh1tes, others just carried on shopping oblivious to the annoyance their kids were causing to the shoppers. I don't have children but if I did and they carried on like that, I'd probably leave the shop with them and come back another time or come back at a time when alone.

    To top off the horrible experience that day, there was a queue of about 5 people at the checkout and this little brat in front of me (around 4 years old) was screaming high pitch at the top of his voice at his mother to buy him some kind of sweets or something he picked up near the checkout. She just ignored him as if he didn't exist and the brat started throwing the packet at her and hitting her and shouting, crying more.

    I'm 30 now and asked my mother was it like that when I was a young lad, and she said it wasn't so is it something modern causing this? Shovelling them with crap food so they are hyper? Not smacking children to discipline them any more? Lack of exercise?

    Also does this bother other people as much as it bothers me?

    Wow op you have it tough!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Is she though? It seems you can't even go shopping any time of the day now without being subjected to this crap. Anyone around in the 80's remember was it as bad?
    Yep. Kids were cnuts thirty years ago too. I know, I used to be one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    Doras? They really are the worst if they named their kid 'door'

    Oh they're the worst.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Listen to music instead, problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Is she though? It seems you can't even go shopping any time of the day now without being subjected to this crap. Anyone around in the 80's remember was it as bad?

    Kids around that age throw tantrums. It's them testing limits to find out how much they can get away with. Sort of like an extension of what they did as babies. Since crying was the only way they could communicate a desire or need, and it most often resulted in getting them what they wanted/needed, it periodically extended as a learned behaviour into older children (toddlers mostly) where we have the responsibility of un-teaching them.

    Ignoring a tantrum is what a lot of people would recommend. Giving in and attempting to "bribe" or hush the child is only encouraging the behaviour, thus re-enforcing that it will get them what they want. I can guarantee you that a lot of people ignoring their screaming children in a supermarket are twice as annoyed and embarrassed as you are.

    And yes, your mother is lying. All children go through a small spat of throwing blindingly loud tantrums to get what they want. But it depends parent to parent how quickly a child grows out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    A.H. answer: OP the moral of the story is you need a licence for a TV and a Dog but any cnut can have a kid.

    P.C. answer: all kids no matter how annoying or ugly are great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    This is one of THE most 1st world problems I have ever heard.

    Yeah, at the fruit market in Kigali you never hear children screaming and yelling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I'm also sick of all the whinging and crying in public from irritating babies.

    But enough about the OP....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    mattjack wrote: »
    I think that was sister with her kids , was there a toddler there as well running wild ?

    There was toddler everywhere! Was she in Clonee Aldi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    Kids around that age throw tantrums. It's them testing limits to find out how much they can get away with. Sort of like an extension of what they did as babies. Since crying was the only way they could communicate a desire or need, and it most often resulted in getting them what they wanted/needed, it periodically extended as a learned behaviour into older children (toddlers mostly) where we have the responsibility of un-teaching them.

    Ignoring a tantrum is what a lot of people would recommend. Giving in and attempting to "bribe" or hush the child is only encouraging the behaviour, thus re-enforcing that it will get them what they want. I can guarantee you that a lot of people ignoring their screaming children in a supermarket are twice as annoyed and embarrassed as you are.

    And yes, your mother is lying. All children go through a small spat of throwing blindingly loud tantrums to get what they want. But it depends parent to parent how quickly a child grows out of it.

    But is it fair to subject innocent members of the public to the screaming? While they are just trying to relax after work and pick up some shopping.

    Why can't the parents do shopping at times when the little darlings don't have to be there? Get the father/brother/sister/grandmother/grandfather/uncle/aunt/friend to watch your child for an hour, especially if they are prone to tantrums and being a nuisance in public.


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are plenty of things I've seen parents do that make my blood boil, but I can't fathom how screaming kids would be top of your list (or on it at all). Tantrums are part of being a child, learning to cope with things that you can't change, learning socially acceptable behaviour by testing boundaries, and also getting the chance to express yourself if you're teething or upset.

    I was a very well behaved kid on the whole and I still screamed down a building or two. It's something children do.

    If the child isn't actively harming you, I really don't see what your problem is OP. The parents ignoring the child are doing a far better job than if they gave in to the child just to give you a quieter shopping experience. You're a grown up - surely you can get over such a small thing for the sake of allowing a parent to parent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,145 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    There was toddler everywhere! Was she in Clonee Aldi?

    Violent bunch down in Clonee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    But is it fair to subject innocent members of the public to the screaming? While they are just trying to relax after work and pick up some shopping.

    Why can't the parents do shopping at times when the little darlings don't have to be there? Get the father/brother/sister/grandmother/grandfather/uncle/aunt/friend to watch your child for an hour, especially if they are prone to tantrums and being a nuisance in public.

    That's not always possible for some people. Most parents do right by their kids and the tantrums don't last more than a few months. Of course out in public you will see the worst of it. But its hardly fair to expect a poor hardworking mother who might have no choice but to leave their child in a creche all day and let someone else witness all of their firsts, just so they can afford nappies, to leave their child with yet another person while they go out and get a few groceries. Of course there are exceptions and generally bad or ignorant parents who just don't care, but you can't tar them all with the same brush!

    Everyone has to get their bloody groceries like! I'm sure mothers arent on here making threads that some weird 30 year old bloke is wandering around Aldi staring at their kids :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    The OP has a point.It is very annoying when the parents do nothing about it and you seem to get it everywhere from restaurants to shops.If i'd carried on like that when i was a kid my parents would have given me a clatter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Gee_G


    darkdubh wrote: »
    The OP has a point.It is very annoying when the parents do nothing about it and you seem to get it everywhere from restaurants to shops.If i'd carried on like that when i was a kid my parents would have given me a clatter.

    Then somebody would be on here starting a thread about seeing a parent hit their child in Aldi!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 SarahC91


    Where does it say in my post I shop with my mother at 30?

    And even if you did wanna shop with your mother it shouldn't be of any concern to any ignorant people! Thats not even what this post is about!! So what age exactly should someone stop shopping with their mother? Just incase Im too old now! Idiots....


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But is it fair to subject innocent members of the public to the screaming? While they are just trying to relax after work and pick up some shopping.

    Why can't the parents do shopping at times when the little darlings don't have to be there? Get the father/brother/sister/grandmother/grandfather/uncle/aunt/friend to watch your child for an hour, especially if they are prone to tantrums and being a nuisance in public.

    Supermarkets aren't for relaxing after work. They're for shopping. If you need to relax you should go to a spa.

    Why can't you do shopping at times when the little darlings wont be there?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Why can't you do shopping at times when the little darlings wont be there?

    24 hour Tesco is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    SarahC91 wrote: »
    And even if you did wanna shop with your mother it shouldn't be of any concern to any ignorant people! Thats not even what this post is about!! So what age exactly should someone stop shopping with their mother? Just incase Im too old now! Idiots....

    Yeah! Feck the haters! I like shopping with my Lovely Irish Mammy. There I said it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Thom Merrilin


    24 hour Tesco is great.

    The problem with that is the quality of fresh fruit and veg which makes up a large part of my shopping, is not the best at 2am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 SarahC91


    Yeah! Feck the haters! I like shopping with my Lovely Irish Mammy. There I said it!

    And so you should :) haha! Who doesnt shop with their Mams like?! I never knew you had to stop at a certain age!!!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Russell Repulsive Synthesizer


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    Doras? They really are the worst if they named their kid 'door'

    I don't know, I always found the name colleen bizarre. Hello, my name is girl.
    :confused:

    Apparently I was never one for throwing tantrums, too quiet all the time.
    Ignoring them is supposed to be the way to go all right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I don't know, I always found the name colleen bizarre. Hello, my name is girl.
    :confused:

    Apparently I was never one for throwing tantrums, too quiet all the time.
    Ignoring them is supposed to be the way to go all right

    I was out with a good friend of mine when she demonstrated to me that her 2 year old daughter always threw a tantrum when passing the ice-cream stand in the local shopping centre. It was always a nightmare for her, she had to take an extra 20 minutes out just so she could walk the whole way around the building and back again to avoid it. When we got within 5 feet of it, she went absolutely nuts. I mean bat-****. And I know this woman long enough to know she wasn't encouraging it. She simply ignored it, and after about 10 minutes the kid had forgotten all about it. But she got a lot of stares, some tuts and even a few downright rude people telling her to control her child. I'm not really sure what people expected her to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    The problem with that is the quality of fresh fruit and veg which makes up a large part of my shopping, is not the best at 2am

    By the time you've your shop done head into smithfield market, I think it opens about 3am??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭caustic 1


    Beat them up n down the aisles with a baguette, should sort them out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭Itwasntme.


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Yeah, at the fruit market in Kigali you never hear children screaming and yelling.

    :pac::pac: You chose the wrong random city because I've never heard kids screaming at fruit markets in Kigali. In fact, you almost never see kids throw the kind of tantrums in Kigali at least, that you see here in the west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    fresh fruit and veg which makes up a large part of my shopping
    well la dee ****ing daa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    darkdubh wrote: »
    The OP has a point.It is very annoying when the parents do nothing about it and you seem to get it everywhere from restaurants to shops.If i'd carried on like that when i was a kid my parents would have given me a clatter.

    I was out yesterday & heard a woman giving out to her child for being rude to another child. It really stood out - I hadn't heard a child being corrected by its parent in absolutely ages.

    Kids are let run amuk in the
    Most inappropriate places & others are increasingly being forced to put up with their bad behaviour . Stop them young I say & show them manners & what is & isn't acceptable.

    Spent a few Months in France last year & it simply didnt happen there. Not in shops, or the metro, or in parks or in restaurants did I encounter any of the sort of badly managed & behaved children that are increasingly the norm here.

    Rubbish in , rubbish out .


    It really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Get over it. They're kids.

    If the parents shout at them to stop, you'll be on here making threads about parents being cruel shouting at their kids.


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