Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

New Gaming PC,Feedback Wanted

  • 20-06-2013 4:54pm
    #1
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hello
    Looking to build a new gaming pc,I just put this random build together on pcspecialist.co.uk and was just wondering what ye thought of it,Feedback appreciated :).

    Case
    COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS MID TOWER GAMING CASE

    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4770k (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache


    Motherboard
    ASUS® Z87-A: ATX, USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE

    Memory (RAM)
    8GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)

    Graphics Card
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 680 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

    Memory - 1st Hard Disk
    1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    4x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ROM

    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 850W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX850 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (€117)

    Processor Cooling
    INTEL SOCKET LGA1155 STANDARD CPU COOLER

    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

    Network Facilities
    10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs


    €1,548.00 inc VAT and Delivery


«1

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    You could do a lot better for that kind of money.

    Fill this in.

    1. What is your budget? [€xxx]

    2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming/Video editing/3D Modelling/HTPC/Internet] (If gaming include which games)

    3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes/No]

    4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [Hard drive/DVD Drive/Case/PSU/etc.] (If possible state brand and model of the parts to ensure compatibility)

    5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes/No]

    5a. If yes, what size do you need. [19'/20'/22'/24'/etc.]

    5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] [Yes/No]

    6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Card/Card Reader/Speakers/etc.]

    7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Yes/No]

    8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Credit Card/Laser]

    9. When are you purchasing? [In x days]

    10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [South Dublin City/Cork City/Kerry/etc.]


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    . What is your budget? 1500EURO

    2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming/Video editing/3D Modelling/HTPC/Internet] (If gaming include which games)Gaming,rome total war 2,watch dogs,Far cry 3,company of heros 2,guild wars 2,skyrim.

    3. Do you need a copy of Windows? yes


    4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [Hard drive/DVD Drive/Case/PSU/etc.] (If possible state brand and model of the parts to ensure compatibility) power supply its a TruePower Quattro 850W 80PLUS

    5. Do you need a monitor? Yes

    5a. If yes, what size do you need. 24

    5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] [Yes/No]

    6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Card/Card Reader/Speakers/etc.] no

    7. Are you willing to try overclocking? no

    8. How can you pay? All 3

    9. When are you purchasing? Probably not till mid july

    10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [South Dublin City/Cork City/Kerry/etc.][/QUOTE]

    Cork :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    If not overclocking you could make some pretty big savings and get the same performance. Something like this would have similar performance to the rig above. The xeon is pretty much the same processor as the 3770 running 100mhz slower and without an igp. Overall it would only be about 10% slower than the 4770. I threw in an alternative new case as well and a cpu cooler to keep the noise levels down.

    If you aren't doing much video editing you could drop to 8gb of ram and a 7950 saving another €120 without losing much game performance.

    You could still overclock a little in future if you wanted.


    Item|Price
    Intel Xeon E3-1230v2, boxed, LGA1155|€201.31
    ASRock ZH77 Pro3, Sockel 1155, ATX|€68.71
    16GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-10667U CL9|€104.01
    MSI N770 Twinfrozr 2GD5/OC, 2GB DDR5|€362.31
    Cooltek Antiphon White, ohne Netzteil|€68.00
    Samsung SSD 840 250GB SATA 6Gb/s|€140.79
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - Intel/AMD|€29.18
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€993.30


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Wow that's a saving of 500 euros or there abouts, thanks for that,anyone else any opinions ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Wow that's a saving of 500 euros or there abouts, thanks for that,anyone else any opinions ?
    I highly recommend overclocking if gaming, value for money it's a grat way to futureproof a CPU (overclocked CPUs have long lives in the world of computers, relatively speaking).


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Hello I'm back again

    what do ye think of this build?from a gaming view and price view?.


    Case
    COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS MID TOWER GAMING CASE

    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4770k (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache
    Free Item
    Free Item
    FREE GRID 2 GAME with 4th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-4670K & i7-4770K!

    Motherboard
    ASUS® MAXIMUS VI GENE-Z: RoG, PCI-e 3.0, SATA 3.0, USB3.0, THX

    Memory (RAM)
    8GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)

    Graphics Card
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

    Memory - 1st Hard Disk
    2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE

    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    4x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ROM

    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (€94)

    Processor Cooling
    INTEL SOCKET LGA1155 STANDARD CPU COOLER

    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

    Network Facilities
    10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs


    €1,102.50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Emm a few issues. You downgraded the gpu to get a marginally better cpu. The majority of games will have worse performance. The cpu and board are also overclocking versions yet you have no after market cpu cooler needed to get decent overclocks.

    A decent cooler for that processor would be around €70. If you were to get this and overclock to around 4.5ghz it would outperform the xeon by quite a bit. I would say 35% or so. However that extra performance is costing you nearly twice as much and will have little effect on most games. I can't see that board on hwvs but I would imagine it's overpriced like most of that Asus line up.

    The ram is overpriced and will net you 0 gains in the majority of programs. Nothing in games.

    The 760 is priced really well though. I'd go for one and an sli capable board so you have the option of adding a second in future.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Ok thanks I'll be back :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Can I just ask how do you if a processor and motherboard is an overclocking one or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Overclocking chips have a k at the end. Overclocking boards are the z77 (sandy, ivy) and z78 (Haswell).


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    If I wasn't over clocking would a standard fan that comes with the cpu do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Yep, it won't be as quiet as an after market cooler though, but shouldn't be loud either in a decent case. It depends on the cpu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    That script won't work for me anymore at all for some reason.. so a picture will have to do.

    I had overclocking in mind when purchasing this. Hence the airflow case and the extra case fans. To get the same performance from a non-overclocked build will cost more, and by not overclocking you're paying a premium for power that you're not utilising. Besides, its easy now :rolleyes:

    The royalKing graphics card is a champion overclocker from reading reviews online (It's the card I'm looking at getting). If you don't plan on overclocking the card I would probably get a Gigabyte or Sapphire or MSI instead.

    I went with AMD card and processor, because, well, they're cheaper for similar levels of performance. The 8320 processor can be overclocked to reach levels of the 8350 with a decent cooler. Intel generally has better performance but you're also paying a premium for that.

    That motherboard also leaves you open to the future possibility of getting a second 7950 and using crossifre.

    SSD included for your windows boot drive and the 1TB HDD for your files, games, etc.

    Monitor included comes to a little over €1000 ;)

    D4UX12G.png


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Thank you,I never considered amd if I'm honest ;) you've given me food for thought ;)

    Case
    InWIN BLACK DRAGON RIDER GAMING CASE

    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4770 (3.4GHz) 8MB Cache

    Motherboard
    ASUS® Z87-A: ATX, USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE

    Memory (RAM)
    8GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)

    Graphics Card
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

    Memory - 1st Hard Disk
    1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE

    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (€94)

    Processor Cooling
    Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler (€23)

    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    €1,065.83

    What do ye think of the above?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy



    What do ye think of the above?

    Well you would be paying more and getting less gaming performance than bloodbaths build in post #4, if you get any of the i7 processors you should know you are paying a premium for something that will have little if any boost to gaming performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    +1 for not getting an i7

    i5 or the AMD 8320 / 8350 in my opinion.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    tuxy wrote: »
    Well you would be paying more and getting less gaming performance than bloodbaths build in post #4, if you get any of the i7 processors you should know you are paying a premium for something that will have little if any boost to gaming performance.

    I didnt realise that,would I not be future proof though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    I know your budget is €1500, but I would max out your memory, because 8gb for a gaming machine isn't enough. Since you will need to turn off your paging file in order to use the memory rather than the slow hard disk when using paging file system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Danger781 wrote: »
    +1 for not getting an i7

    i5 or the AMD 8320 / 8350 in my opinion.


    i7 is the best for gaming, though I have never used the AMD chips in my computing life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    nucker wrote: »
    I know your budget is €1500, but I would max out your memory, because 8gb for a gaming machine isn't enough. Since you will need to turn off your paging file in order to use the memory rather than the slow hard disk when using paging file system
    nucker wrote: »
    i7 is the best for gaming, though I have never used the AMD chips in my computing life

    I'm sorry, what?

    There is absolutely no need to max out your memory whatsoever. Gaming alone would not need more than 8GB. In fact 8GB is more than generous in most cases. By all means there are probably advantages to using the extra memory but telling people that 8GB is not enough isn't great advice.

    The i7 is not the best for gaming. While the i7 might technically be the faster processor and you might get a couple of extra frames, you are paying a premium over the i5 for hyper threading which will have little-to-no impact on gaming. The i5 3570k is the go-to processor for most people, with good reason.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    nucker wrote: »
    i7 is the best for gaming, though I have never used the AMD chips in my computing life

    Why do you say that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    nucker wrote: »
    I know your budget is €1500, but I would max out your memory, because 8gb for a gaming machine isn't enough. Since you will need to turn off your paging file in order to use the memory rather than the slow hard disk when using paging file system

    I just realised you said disable the page file.... No!

    No. Do not do this.

    The page file is there for a reason. If you're running multiple applications and the one you are currently running is using a lot of memory, windows will move some of the least recently used pages of memory to a hidden file in your OS to free up more RAM for the program you are actually using. That's why you will sometimes experience the scenario when you re-open a program that you've had minimised for a while and it takes a while to reappear. Windows has moved those files from RAM to disk so a disk read is required.

    The logic behind disabling the page file is that it removes this delay by forcing windows to keep everything in RAM rather than moving some to disk. However this won't make anything faster and it only comes into play in one scenario; reopening a program you've had minimised for an extended period of time i.e. a program you aren't using. There won't be a delay in re-opening the program as it has been kept is RAM which is fast to read from. This is the only benefit, and I wouldn't even call it a benefit. If you haven't spotted the flaw in this logic yet - What happens when you reach the limit of your RAM and Windows isn't allowed to move anything to disk? Your apps start crashing and your system becomes unstable.

    Your next thought might be, well why not get the most amount of RAM my motherboard can handle? If you've got plenty of RAM in your PC, and your workload really isn't that huge, you may never run into application crashing errors with the pagefile disabled, BUT you're also taking away from memory that Windows could be using for read and write caching for your actual documents and other files.

    Get an SSD and this so called 'advantage' that I mentioned earlier will be null and void.

    Seriously, nucker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Ichirau


    nucker wrote: »
    i7 is the best for gaming

    Oh boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Oh heck, I've disabled page file system, I've not having any problems, yes, I am having close some applications when photo editing, due to my mobo's restriction on how much RAM I can stick in. Even though it can handle 24Gb, a weird number, I know, I've only got 12Gb in.

    If you're using page files system it won't use any of the RAM (or too little) for gaming, it would use up just the hard drive or ssd which is slower than memory when it comes to access by the CPU, this is why I've said to use the max, but wouldn't use more than 16Gb is what I was trying to get at. If the mobo can use more, it will be up to the OP's budget, though if the mobo can handle up to 32Gb, even I wouldn't go that high

    I don't think most games (the OP hasn't said what games s/he will be playing, but guessing that s/he will be using a resource hugging game) will use more than 8Gb, but its the background programs that Windows uses at the same time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Ichirau wrote: »
    Oh boy.


    Have you got anything to add to this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    nucker wrote: »
    Oh heck, I've disabled page file system, I've not having any problems, yes, I am having close some applications when photo editing, due to my mobo's restriction on how much RAM I can stick in. Even though it can handle 24Gb, a weird number, I know, I've only got 12Gb in.

    If you're using page files system it won't use any of the RAM (or too little) for gaming, it would use up just the hard drive or ssd which is slower than memory when it comes to access by the CPU, this is why I've said to use the max, but wouldn't use more than 16Gb is what I was trying to get at. If the mobo can use more, it will be up to the OP's budget, though if the mobo can handle up to 32Gb, even I wouldn't go that high

    I don't think most games (the OP hasn't said what games s/he will be playing, but guessing that s/he will be using a resource hugging game) will use more than 8Gb, but its the background programs that Windows uses at the same time

    You have no idea what you're talking about.

    Absolutely no idea.

    Edit: I wasn't going to respond to this but I have to.

    I've disabled page file system, I've not having any problems, yes, I am having close some applications when photo editing, due to my mobo's restriction on how much RAM I can stick in

    Why do you think you're having some applications close on you? Think about it. Just for a second.

    If you're using page files system it won't use any of the RAM (or too little) for gaming, it would use up just the hard drive or ssd which is slower than memory when it comes to access by the CPU

    Not true at all. Your RAM is going to be used either way but the page file is there to prevent files taking up space on the RAM when they aren't being used (Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here). As I said only minimised programs will see the benefit of the disabling the page file.

    I don't think most games (the OP hasn't said what games s/he will be playing, but guessing that s/he will be using a resource hugging game) will use more than 8Gb, but its the background programs that Windows uses at the same time

    Don't you understand that this is the point of the page file?? The programs that are running but not being used will be stored in the page file to free up space in the RAM so whatever game the OP is playing can use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Danger781 wrote: »
    You have no idea what you're talking about.

    Absolutely no idea.


    Sorry, but you have no idea yourself, bye, don't want to get caught up in an argument with you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    nucker wrote: »
    Sorry, but you have no idea yourself, bye, don't want to get caught up in an argument with you

    I edited my previous post.

    Also, I would hope a fourth year in computer science would know a thing or two about how a computer works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    If you've got 8GB of RAM, then most of the time the page file will be untouched, even when gaming.

    Don't forget that most games are 32-bit, built for the consoles and also have video RAM to depend upon. For a gaming machine, 4GB is still quite adequate, but 8GB is plenty. 16GB is really for showing off/professional work/audio-visual editing.

    You'd go over the 4GB alright in the latest games, especially with texture tweaks etc., but you're still hitting only around 6GB and you'll have 2GB for the background, which is plenty.

    I expect that to change soon with the new consoles designed around 64-bit CPUs and having 8GB of RAM themselves - meaning you'd want 16GB for a PC since there's more going on in the background. However, you can easily upgrade RAM in a PC, plus it's kind of dear at the moment.

    Of course, if you're running three anti-viruses, every single browser search bar under the sun, an animated twirling mouse arrow, 150 browser windows, 5 different messenger programs, encoding some videos, 8 games of minesweeper and crysis 1-3 then of course, why not go the full 4x8GB = 32GB?! :pac:

    TL;DR 8GB is enough for now, it can be easily upgraded to 16GB.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Consoles will reserve memory for background programs and the os as well so I don't see the games themselves using 8gb's. 8gb's is plenty for the foreseeable future. Most games don't go over 4 at the moment.

    As for the page file / virtual memory. I reduce it from windows default of 10gb's to 2gb's to free up ssd space. I haven't ran into an issue with it yet with 8gb of ram.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Yeah, I agree, but also they tend to be a bit more frugal with their space and PCs generally have a few extras running. 3GB being reserved for the Xbox's OS, so it looks like we're safe enough.

    I also agree with reduction of page file rather than disabling it. You give yourself a small buffer, don't have to worry about programs that need a page file (though these are few enough) and 2GB is not much of a sacrifice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Using page files on SSD will wear it out faster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    SSDs have got pretty long life on the for home use. I doubt it would write more than a couple of hundred megabytes per day with 8GB of RAM.

    Edit: OK, just checking that out - maybe more than a couple of hundred MB. If you were switching on/off the computer a lot, it could be more of an impact. Still though, it's fairly insignificant to the durability of today's SSDs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Ichirau


    nucker wrote: »
    Have you got anything to add to this?

    i7 CPUs have hyper threading, Which has no use in gaming at all. The best processor on the market for gaming is the i5-3570k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Ichirau wrote: »
    i7 CPUs have hyper threading, Which has no use in gaming at all. The best processor on the market for gaming is the i5-3570k.


    Fair enough, the i7 isn't cheap I must admit, but its good enough for me


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I think I understand now why yer telling not to get the i7,would gtx 780 be overkill too so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    nucker wrote: »
    Fair enough, the i7 isn't cheap I must admit, but its good enough for me

    The desktop i7 is the exact same as the desktop i5 only the i7 has hyper threading. Why do you think it's worth paying so much more for a feature that has practically no impact on games?

    Also you don't seem to realise that games are 32 bit application and what that actually means for ram usage. 8gb is more than enough for a gaming PC

    I think I understand now why yer telling not to get the i7,would gtx 780 be overkill too so?

    The 780 is very expensive but is a very fast GPU, if you can afford an overclockable i5 and motherboard with an ssd and still have enough left over for a 780 then go for it. At lease with a really high end gpu like the 780 you will actually see a difference in games, unlike adding a i7 to the system.

    The 780 is about 20% faster than a 770 but costs €230 more so you have to decide if that's worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 martadaria


    Hi guys. Good to see there are some specialist in here. Have similar problem. My 12 yo is looking for gaming pc and Im completely lost and have no idea what should I look for. Please help.


    1. What is your budget? €500 max €600

    2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Gaming/ Youtube (Minecraft, Starcraft)

    3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

    4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [Hard drive/DVD Drive/Case/PSU/etc.] (If possible state brand and model of the parts to ensure compatibility) No

    5. Do you need a monitor? Yes

    5a. If yes, what size do you need up to 22'

    5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] N/A

    6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Keyboard yes, Mouse yes ,Wireless Card yes
    7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Yes

    8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Credit Card/Laser] All 3

    9. When are you purchasing? In 14 days

    10. If you need help building it, where are you based? Kerry

    I will be very greatful if someone is able to help me with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Better off posting in a new thread so that you have one to yourself. I'll have a look to see if I can find something suitable and post it when you make the new thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Some parts are out of stock at the moment but this is a good gaming pc for the money. You might want a more powerful power supply if you plan on upgrading the graphics card in future. It would only be about €10 more.


    Item|Price
    AMD FX-6300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€102.99
    ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX, Sockel AM3+, mATX|€48.87
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€55.64
    8GB-Kit GeIL Enhance Corsa PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1333)|€54.11
    Zalman T2 Mini Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€18.61
    Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.01
    LG 22EA53VQ-P|€127.81
    XFX RADEON 7790 CORE 1075M 1GB|€122.34
    TP-Link TL-WN781N, 150Mbps, PCIe x1|€9.44
    Revoltec Wired Gaming Mouse W102|€9.06
    ARCTIC COOLING ARCTIC F12|€3.16
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€600.03


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4670 (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
    Motherboard ASUS® Z87-A: ATX, USB2.0, USB3.0, SATA6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE
    Memory (RAM) 8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
    Graphics Card 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 770 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision R

    Went with the above build in the end off PC specialist,didn't have the confidence for it this time,thanks for all the replies.

    I now need a monitor any suggestions?was gonna use my TV but I think I'd be better off investing in a good monitor,what do ye think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Is that a 4670 or a 4670K? You can't overclock the non-K.

    How much have you got for the monitor?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Monotype wrote: »
    Is that a 4670 or a 4670K? You can't overclock the non-K.

    How much have you got for the monitor?

    Its the non k,wasnt planning on overclocking anyway.i have about 250 for the monitor?any recommendations?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    You could get one of those LG IPS monitors. I haven't time to look at the difference between these at the moment.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-IPS234V-PN-AEK-inch-Screen-Monitor/dp/B008F7GW2K
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-IPS237L-BN-Widescreen-Monitor-5000000/dp/B008PBXKG2

    If you've got a bit more... then maybe the Dell 2412M might fit in?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Thanks very much I'll have a look at those now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Erper


    this was my planned setup

    Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz CL9 Vengeance Black Performance Desktop Memory Kit
    €68.15

    Corsair Hydro Series H60 2013 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
    €72.18

    WD 1TB Blue SATA 6GB/s 7200RPM 64MB 3.5" Hard Drive
    €59.76

    Samsung 24x SH-224BB DVD-RW SATA OEM Half Height
    €15.69
    Corsair Carbide Series 300R Gaming Case
    €72.66
    Asus Z87-Pro S1150 Intel Z87 DDR3 ATX
    €161.36
    Intel Core i5-4670K S1150 3.4GHz 6MB Haswell Quad Core Processor Unlocked
    €229.38

    Corsair 750 Watt Builder Series CX 750 Modular Power Supply
    €83.79

    Gigabyte ATI Radeon 7850 HD 975MHz 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI OC
    €187.50

    Total: €969.15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    They have a 24'' version now too if you want to fill out your budget a bit more. Unfortunately, they don't increase the resolution. 24'' 1920x1080 should still be okay.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-24EA53VQ-inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B00BSOT2LA/

    If you had €300 to spend, you could get one of those Korean IPS 27'' monitors.

    By the way, overclocking is very easy and poses little risks, especially for just a 10% overclock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Was just looking around at what Asus have to offer.
    They also have a 23'' IPS, most likely very similar to the LG (the screen panel itself could well be made by LG).
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-VS239HR-inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B008J77QQM/

    Also there's this 3D screen that I noticed for around €250. It's an IPS so you should get decent colours like the others above and uses passive 3D - the kind that you see in cinemas, not nVidia's shutter tech.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/VG23AH-Widescreen-Multimedia-LED-Backlit-Intelligence/dp/B007RKCQUS
    It's just a suggestion as it's gimicky and I doubt it would be something that most people would use more than a few times to try it out.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Gonna go with monitor I think :)


    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-VS239HR-inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B008J77QQM/

    Also my computer is in quality control so hopefully all going well It will be dispatched next week :) \0/


  • Advertisement
Advertisement