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Monsanto Wins World Food Prize

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    The Backwards Man
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    Can they genetically modify a cross between gooseberry, blackcurrant and rhubarb jam?


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    Hownowcow
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    Genetically modified crops. Nyom nyom nyom nyom.


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    Jimmy Garlic
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    Indian farmers are committing suicide hand over fist because Monsanto has driven them to it. An absolutely heinous and sinister corporation that is trying to monopolise agriculture on this planet.


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    LizT
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Can they genetically modify a cross between gooseberry, blackcurrant and rhubarb jam?

    Yeah but it won't beat good old fashioned strawberry jam.


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    Iwasfrozen
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    GM food is the way of the future. Like it or not our growing population needs a higher level of produce to sustain itself.
    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Indian farmers are committing suicide hand over fist because Monsanto has driven them to it. An absolutely heinous and sinister corporation that is trying to monopolise agriculture on this planet.
    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


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    NuckingFacker
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    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Indian farmers are committing suicide hand over fist because Monsanto has driven them to it. An absolutely heinous and sinister corporation that is trying to monopolise agriculture on this planet.
    People should Google it, using, err google. ahem. Gotta love big corporations. They are soo nice. Also, IWASFROZEN, you're wrong. On so many levels it's not right.


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    The Backwards Man
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    GM food is the way of the future. Like it or not our growing population needs a higher level of produce to sustain itself.

    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    And a higher level of food distribution. The world produces more than enough food to feed the current population as it is.


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    Iwasfrozen
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    NuckingFacker wrote: »
    People should Google it, using, err google. ahem. Gotta love big corporations. They are soo nice. Also, IWASFROZEN, you're wrong. On so many levels it's not right.
    What's not right? We've been genetically modifying our food for thousands of years.


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    oppenheimer1
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    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Indian farmers are committing suicide hand over fist because Monsanto has driven them to it. An absolutely heinous and sinister corporation that is trying to monopolise agriculture on this planet.

    They don't have to use Monsanto products though...


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    The Backwards Man
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    LizT wrote: »
    Yeah but it won't beat good old fashioned strawberry jam.

    Would in a fair fight :p


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    Iwasfrozen
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    And a higher level of food distribution. The world produces more than enough food to feed the current population as it is.
    Not to a high enough level. We want to fill the world with Americas and Europes were everyone has food to throw away. Adequacy should not be our goal as a species.


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    The Backwards Man
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Not to a high enough level. We want to fill the world with Americas and Europes were everyone has food to throw away. Adequacy should not be our goal as a species.

    Do we? I must be getting soft and liberal and **** in my old age.


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    Panthro
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    As long as she'll fit into the saucepan tis all good.


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    Iwasfrozen
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Do we? I must be getting soft and liberal and **** in my old age.
    Certainly. "What we have is enough" is not an option. It's fine for now but what happens when the world population is 20 billion?


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    Karl Stein
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    We want to fill the world with Americas and Europes were everyone has food to throw away.

    How depressing.


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    wendell borton
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    The corporations are trying to implement the genetic equivalent of DRM on crops.


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    The Backwards Man
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Certainly. "What we have is enough" is not an option. It's fine for now but what happens when the population is 20 billion?

    Square pigs.:p


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    Iwasfrozen
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Square pigs.:p
    haha, GM food can make it happen folks! :D


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    Iwasfrozen
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    Cathal Cloch wrote: »
    How depressing.
    Food abundance is depressing? Or were you talking about me filling the world full of Americas? I didn't mean culturally I mean economically. Every country should have an abundance of food.


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    Karl Stein
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Food abundance is depressing? Or were you talking about me filling the world full of Americas? I didn't mean culturally I mean economically. Every country should have an abundance of food.

    It's depressing that people like you are so twisted by libertarian and right-wing propaganda that you think that turning the entire planet into a hyper-consumerist, resource gobbling, environment degrading dystopia is a desirable goal.


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    osarusan
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    What's not right? We've been genetically modifying our food for thousands of years.

    We haven't been patenting them and suing over that patent for thousands of years though.


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    The Backwards Man
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    osarusan wrote: »
    We haven't been patenting them and suing over that patent for thousands of years though.
    We've been killing, pillaging and burning storehouses though, since we were able to do it. I just can't see GM being the devil people want it to be. Agriculture itself is GM.


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    nmop_apisdn
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    GM food is the way of the future. Like it or not our growing population needs a higher level of produce to sustain itself.

    Can sustain at least 12 Billion without GM.
    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    What's not right? We've been genetically modifying our food for thousands of years.
    No we haven't
    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    They don't have to use Monsanto products though...
    I think Monsanto has seed Monopoly there.
    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Certainly. "What we have is enough" is not an option. It's fine for now but what happens when the world population is 20 billion?
    Never gonna happen. Nature or a few corporations will make sure of that.

    9.6B by 2050 current estimate.


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    osarusan
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I just can't see GM being the devil people want it to be. Agriculture itself is GM.

    My issue isn't with GM itself so much as the patenting of what is modified/engineered.


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    Cookie_Monster
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Certainly. "What we have is enough" is not an option. It's fine for now but what happens when the world population is 20 billion?

    the obvious solution would be to not let it get that high. But that would require countires taking responsibility for their populations, no one bar China even bothers as yet.
    nmop_apisdn wrote: »
    No we haven't

    we have though, to date its been selective breeding rather than direct manipulation of genes but it's basically just the next step in the same process.


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    nmop_apisdn
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    the obvious solution would be to not let it get that high. But that would require countires taking responsibility for their populations, no one bar China even bothers as yet.
    And they continue to make an absolute mess of it. Preference for male children has created gender number imbalance of 20+ million.


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    Hersheys
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    nmop_apisdn wrote: »
    Can sustain at least 12 Billion without GM.

    No we haven't

    I think Monsanto has seed Monopoly there.

    Never gonna happen. Nature or a few corporations will make sure of that.

    9.6B by 2050 current estimate.

    We actually have been gm'ing crops for years. Cross pollination of corn crops to produce more hardy corn, higher produce yield, more resistant to extremes and disease.

    We also use genetics to modify our milk. Cross breeding cows to give the best milk is common practice.


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    nmop_apisdn
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »


    we have though, to date its been selective breeding rather than direct manipulation of genes but it's basically just the next step in the same process.
    Hersheys wrote: »
    We actually have been gm'ing crops for years. Cross pollination of corn crops to produce more hardy corn, higher produce yield, more resistant to extremes and disease.

    We also use genetics to modify our milk. Cross breeding cows to give the best milk is common practice.
    The crosses made nowadays in the lab would never happen in the wild. It's different. I'd like to see more trial time and the removal of the (widely reported as unsafeharmful) pesticide producing plant varieties gone.

    http://earthopensource.org/index.php/1-the-genetic-engineering-technique/1-1-myth-genetic-engineering-is-just-an-extension-of-natural-breeding



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    Karl Stein
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    In the west we have people dying young from obesity related illness, huge quantities of food being routinely thrown in the bin, billions spent on fine dining, billions more spent on sugary drinks, burgers and fries..

    OMG we're running out of food!


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    Cookie_Monster
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    nmop_apisdn wrote: »
    And they continue to make an absolute mess of it. Preference for male children has created gender number imbalance of 20+ million.

    at least they're trying.


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