Ban Baiting

atkin

A recent post has prompted me to wonder about the existence of ban baiters. That is the idiot replies designed to wind you up and everyone else until you snap and say something supposedly hurtful.The moderator then gives you a ban and the baiter gets a laugh.

frozenfrozen

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amidoinitrite?

ColeTrain

atkin wrote: »

A recent post has prompted me to wonder about the existence of ban baiters. That is the idiot replies designed to wind you up and everyone else until you snap and say something supposedly hurtful.The moderator then gives you a ban and the baiter gets a laugh.

Ban baiters? Surely you could have come up with better than that :rolleyes:

Valetta

You talking badgers here?

B.A._Baracus

atkin wrote: »

A recent post has prompted me to wonder about the existence of ban baiters. That is the idiot replies designed to wind you up and everyone else until you snap and say something supposedly hurtful.The moderator then gives you a ban and the baiter gets a laugh.

Oh it happens alot on here :pac:

One thing I noticed on boards is that for example you can't call someone a fucking idiot - fair enough thats rude - But there are ways around this such as calling some "a complete and utter moron" but you won't get banned for that. But same meaning. So some people take advantage of that.

They'll insult you and they'll rise you with the above. Hoping you'll take the bait and tell them to fuck off - then in comes a mod with "personal abuse" and the other person in question "thanks" the mod's post whilst jerking off.

Reality is, just like in the real world, there are alot of ****-stirrers. Who love nothing better than to rise people.

Karl Stein

atkin wrote: »

A recent post has prompted me to wonder about the existence of ban baiters. That is the idiot replies designed to wind you up and everyone else until you snap and say something supposedly hurtful.The moderator then gives you a ban and the baiter gets a laugh.

That's racist.

Tombi!

So you've just discovered trolls

Well done

IM0

oh is that what they meant when they said "ill bait the head off ye"

The Backwards Man

I consider myself to be a 'ban avoider', that is, someone who doesn't take anything said on the internet seriously enough to say something I regret.

El Guapo!

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

But there are ways around this such as calling some "a complete and utter moron" but you won't get banned for that.

I'm pretty sure you'd get infracted/banned for that too.

Doctor Strange

If you think someone's on the wind-up, report the post and say so. It's the only way the mods can notice it.

RayM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

One thing I noticed on boards is that for example you can't call someone a fucking idiot - fair enough thats rude - But there are ways around this such as calling some "a complete and utter moron" but you won't get banned for that. But same meaning. So some people take advantage of that.

The best way to get around it is to call their post idiotic. Whenever I call someone's post idiotic or (better still) imbecilic, it's probably quite obvious that I'm only doing so because the rules preclude me from calling them an idiot.

stimpson

RayM wrote: »

The best way to get around it is to call their post idiotic. Whenever I call someone's post idiotic or (better still) imbecilic, it's probably quite obvious that I'm only doing so because the rules preclude me from calling them an idiot.

This post is idiotic or imbecilic. Or wankerish.

Specialun

I think i heard a very good ban baiter is known as a master

MomijiHime

ahahaha Trolls are so funny! I love them.

NuckingFacker

Specialun wrote: »

I think i heard a very good ban baiter is known as a master

Yup, a lot of master baiters here alright. And some right nuckingfackers as well.

stefan idiot jones

atkin wrote: »

That is the idiot replies.

Who are you calling an idiot ?

You know absolutely nothing about me.

Nemeses

How do you see your infractions? Or is that top secret information?

NuckingFacker

Nemeses wrote: »

How do you see your infractions? Or is that top secret information?

They hide them cunningly under the heading "Infractions".

Hitchens

from the American Dictionary of English:

Infraction - A crime less serious than a felony

returnNull

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

If you think someone's on the wind-up, report the post and say so. It's the only way the mods can notice it.

rat

Ban baiters? Excellent - I've a birthday coming up soon, good to know I won't be getting any birthday baitings.

gobnaitolunacy

Valetta wrote: »

You talking badgers here?

No such thing as badgers that talk, don't be silly.

Nemeses

NuckingFacker wrote: »

They hide them cunningly under the heading "Infractions".

Eh? Which heading are you talking about willis?

Turtyturd

El Guapo! wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you'd get infracted/banned for that too.

I think the trick is to say 'That post is like something a f*cking idiot would post'.

Nemeses

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

No such thing as badgers that talk, don't be silly.

Thats a lie, I can prove it!

Note: They can also play guitar really well!

El Guapo!

Nemeses wrote: »

Eh? Which heading are you talking about willis?

Click on your own name and it'll bring you to your profile. There'll be an "infractions" tab there. Click that and you'll see your infractions/bans.

Nemeses

El Guapo! wrote: »

Click on your own name and it'll bring you to your profile. There'll be an "infractions" tab there. Click that and you'll see your infractions/bans.

Cheers man, had a nose... I don't have one of those tabs.

This is the same tab next to visitors ,friends, stats etc

If so. I must be a very good boy here on boards!

El Guapo!

Nemeses wrote: »

Cheers man, had a nose... I don't have one of those tabs.

This is the same tab next to visitors ,friends, stats etc

If so. I must be a very good boy here on boards!

If you get an infraction or a ban, you'll get a pm about it so it won't come as a surprise!

ToddyDoody

atkin wrote: »

A recent post has prompted me to wonder about the existence of ban baiters. That is the idiot replies designed to wind you up and everyone else until you snap and say something supposedly hurtful.The moderator then gives you a ban and the baiter gets a laugh.

I agree completely, I think such behaviour here is despicable. The only problem is, like masterbaiting, poster baiting is one of those lesser openly talked about subjects. Perhaps boards can form a committee to discuss and draft a code.

Micky Dolenz

It sometimes amazes me how people get sucked in so easily. most of the time, the poster being trolled knows full well they are being trolled but still react.

Trolls love posters like that.

MadsL

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

It sometimes amazes me how people get sucked in so easily. most of the time, the poster being trolled knows full well they are being trolled but still react.

Trolls love posters like that.

And yet mods still give infractions to people who respond to trolls. No sympathy eh?

Micky Dolenz

MadsL wrote: »

And yet mods still give infractions to people who respond to trolls. No sympathy eh?

The rules are the rules. We normally ban the trolls, mind.

NuckingFacker

MadsL wrote: »

And yet mods still give infractions to people who respond to trolls. No sympathy eh?

But what if you didn't know they were a Troll?? My Troldar is broken - the lad from Tectatroll can't come till next wednesday. I shall have to tread warily. Jasus. What if you're trolling??? This is getting complicated..

MadsL

NuckingFacker wrote: »

But what if you didn't know they were a Troll?? My Troldar is broken - the lad from Tectatroll can't come till next wednesday. I shall have to tread warily. Jasus. What if you're trolling??? This is getting complicated..

Should have bought the Troll-ease 2000. Better fuel economy too.

Here's a pic...http://www.cromwell-intl.com/oliver/pictures/troll-detector.jpg

120_Minutes

I alway tell myself that I wont reply to the anti-cannabis trolls, but the ****ers keep godfathering me.

NuckingFacker

MadsL wrote: »

Should have bought the Troll-ease 2000. Better fuel economy too.

Here's a pic...http://www.cromwell-intl.com/oliver/pictures/troll-detector.jpg

That Troll-ease has been used on a travveler thread -it's gone off the scale and gotten stuck. The Tectatroll is travveler thread proof to 10,000 posts. And it runs on LPG with the optional conversion kit. Sadly, reliability suffers.

Nemeses

NuckingFacker wrote: »

That Troll-ease has been used on a travveler thread -it's gone off the scale and gotten stuck. The Tectatroll is travveler thread proof to 10,000 posts. And it runs on LPG with the optional conversion kit. Sadly, reliability suffers.

Don't worry, I hear another model is due out later this summer

Doctor Strange

returnNull wrote: »

rat

Thanks for that extremely useful post. Now, why don't you inform us of some more of your incredibly intelligent opinions?

B.A._Baracus

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

They'll insult you and they'll rise you with the above.

That is something I have never understood personally though. I have had all kinds of insults thrown at me on line. Especially related to my relationship which is somewhat not ordinary. On this site and many others. The people doing so have tried to insult me - my partners - my parents - my daughter - and worse.

And not once ever have I risen to it or felt offended by it. The reason being that these opinions and insults are coming from people who's opinion I do not yet repsect and until I respect them or their opinions nothing they say can offend me. In fact there is a user going around boards.ie with a motto on this - along the lines of the only person demeaned by insults is the person using them.

So I guess I just do not understand how people become invested in the opinions of faceless unknown people enough TO be "Ban Baited" in this fashion. Is it a personal insecurity thing that allows people to see in the words of others failings they already see in themselves so they lash out at the other? Or is there some other root to it?

Or am I just emotionally dead inside and that is the reason I am impervious to the insults of others? Or some other failing on my part?

Rats only come looking for food where there is food - upon finding none they leave. If people come on forums looking for a reaction - the only reason they come is people give them that reaction.

KyussBishop

After a certain amount of time posting online (especially debates), you become pretty much impervious to trolling (though tbh, some things still can rile you up out of offensiveness); there are so many hard to distinguish kinds of it though.

One big one, is where posters in a discussion discard with any attempts at logical argument (they'll still keep up the pretense of it though), and ratchet up the condescension/ridicule, combined with deep amounts of fallacious argument/ill-logic to obfuscate the real issues under discussion, so they can then try to both 'win' an argument on social impressions (usually combined with other posters doing the same), and as a bonus, to get a rise out of other posters (maybe even with them getting banned).

I don't actually think that is 'trolling' when the posters actually believe (or support the end goals of the belief, without believing themselves) what they are saying/supporting though, it is kind of ambiguous; it's the difference between trying to purely get a rise out of someone (trolling), and trying to push their view despite knowing it won't hold up to logical argument (not trolling - maybe shilling, or something more insidious).


Trolls and obvious shills are relatively harmless; these types though (where guides to fallacious/dishonest argument are not for spotting it, but are used as instructions), are a lot more insidious/offensive, because they try to fool people in a much deeper way (a bit like a religion or cult), and to control/muddy discussion of certain topics.

That's far more harmful/corrupt than any regular troll can be; trolls are just a bit of fun in comparison.

Bits_n_Bobs

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

That's racist.

And anti-left hand people and public service bashing and possibly pornographic.

Nemeses

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

And anti-left hand people and public service bashing and possibly pornographic.

What's wrong with left handed people eh?

Wacker The Attacker

Specialun wrote: »

I think i heard a very good ban baiter is known as a master

I banmastered to bollix off meself last night

old_aussie

Specialun wrote: »

I think i heard a very good ban baiter is known as a master

Ahhh, a Master Baiter.

uch

Nemeses wrote: »

What's wrong with left handed people eh?

We can't wipe our arsés

Grayson

RayM wrote: »

The best way to get around it is to call their post idiotic. Whenever I call someone's post idiotic or (better still) imbecilic, it's probably quite obvious that I'm only doing so because the rules preclude me from calling them an idiot.

only a complete fcuking idiot would buy into that bullsh1t.
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Could be worse, at least ban baiters aren't grammar nazis

stimpson

Grayson wrote: »

Only a complete fcuking idiot would buy into that bullsh1t.
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It could be worse. At least ban baiters aren't grammar Nazis.

FYP

Nemeses

uch wrote: »

We can't wipe our arsés

I didn't believe you at first... but yup you're right ..


We just can't

Grayson

stimpson wrote: »

FYP I'm a cnut

FYP

stimpson

Grayson wrote: »

FYP

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