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Due February 2014

  • 17-06-2013 11:16am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭


    Anyone else expecting a St Valentines baby?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    16th Feb, so not quite valentines but think I will be early so who knows. Have been hoping someone would post a February thread, congrats!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭cas_k


    Exciting times. Is this your first? I had to start the thread because I am bursting to tell someone and because I am so superstitious I don't want to start telling people just yet. Have you had any symptoms yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭intothewest


    Seven weeks and feeling it…have two under 2 ½ so that doesn’t help with the fatigue. Symptoms have hit me like a tonne of bricks since the wend..having to have snacks throughout the day, if I get anyway hungry it escalates into nausea, but a lot of food turns my stomach too!! I’ve heard from others that the system (going public) has changed since I had my other two, and they only give a scan around Wk12 now, is that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Second for me, my first is just gone 10 months! Feeling tired and lots of
    stretching pains already. Belly has relaxed so much I feel I am showing already, which is going to be tough to hide when I return to work in a couple of weeks. I know its mostly bloat but I think it looks huge.

    Having first scan at 10 weeks and then proper one at 12, going to MC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭cas_k


    wow you girls sure are busy. This is my first and not a single symptom - I even went to the doctor at the start of the week to tell her I was suffering a phamtom pregnancy - thankfully I was wrong!!!

    Not sure what to do as far as hospitals are concerned. I have health insurance so can go semi private but there is also the choice of the domino scheme which sounds brilliant - decisions, decisions.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭CharlieOscar


    From a guys perspective

    Myself and my wife have been trying for years and finally we have been blessed with - Pregnant 1-2 weeks. This is the most amazing feeling ever, that, please god all goes well, I will be a daddy in mid February

    I have been waiting to post on this thread for so long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    From a guys perspective

    Myself and my wife have been trying for years and finally we have been blessed with - Pregnant 1-2 weeks. This is the most amazing feeling ever, that, please god all goes well, I will be a daddy in mid February

    I have been waiting to post on this thread for so long

    Congrats to you both, if test said 1-2 weeks you're already 3-4 weeks in.

    Re which care, domino scheme really is excellent if you can get on it, lots of criteria. We're doing shared care so off to doc this week to fill out forms.

    Wishing the next 6 weeks away so I can get to elusive 12 weeks and relax a little

    No real symptoms but from last time I remember tiredness kicked in after 6 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Im due Feb 16th also. I miscarried twins last sept, so was really nervous about this one. 6 weeks in and im nauseous and puking 24 hrs a day, nothing helps at all, lost 2 pounds already in 4 days.

    But its supposedly a good sign!

    Im abroad, so I get to visit my Obgyn next week, week 7, and get a scan and hear a heartbeat which will hopefully put some of my fears to rest.

    cant imagine feeling this ill for the next 5 weeks or more - I can barely move all day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭CharlieOscar


    We are also due on 16th feb but no sickness yet at all, just tiredness all the time. Scan in 23 days to hear the heartbeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    I honestly dont think i could wait until week 12 for a scan! Im so anxious about this one, i wonder if its contributing to my nausea! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭cas_k


    My sickness has started this week also.... not sure how I am going to manage another 6-7 weeks of this. It takes a lot for me to be physically sick so its really just an intense quesy feeling that I have... all day every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    So I had my scan yesterday! Doc said everything looks great, saw the heartbeat and everything.

    Pic is now on the fridge! :D

    Seemed to have gained some control over the morning sickness, can now 'allow' myself to be sick when i need to whereas before I was like - this is a waste of food/ i shouldnt be getting sick etc. So now I have 30 min windows of no nausea a couple times a day, where I can shower etc and get things done. Also walking and fresh air helps, but its too damn hot here to be outside during the day.

    Next scan at the end of august! Need to get some bloods and tests done in the mean time.

    Exciting times!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    So I had my scan yesterday! Doc said everything looks great, saw the heartbeat and everything.

    Pic is now on the fridge! :D

    Seemed to have gained some control over the morning sickness, can now 'allow' myself to be sick when i need to whereas before I was like - this is a waste of food/ i shouldnt be getting sick etc. So now I have 30 min windows of no nausea a couple times a day, where I can shower etc and get things done. Also walking and fresh air helps, but its too damn hot here to be outside during the day.

    Next scan at the end of august! Need to get some bloods and tests done in the mean time.

    Exciting times!

    Jealous of the scan already, my consultant is on holidays so rather than next week its not for another 2 weeks after that and then I get my 12 weeks scan the following week.

    Trying desperately to hide the bloat, by the evening even the holding in the belly doesn't work. Really wondering if there is more than one in here!

    Nausea is a pain, feels worse on this pregnancy and have no appetite at all. When i do eat its more out of necessity than want! Roll on second trimester

    Looking forward to being able to tell people, will make life so much easier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Really thought I might have two in there too! With all the nausea, and bloating, and because of last year, but he double checked and there is only one thankfully!

    I heard you can get a scan after 7 weeks in ireland if you pay? think my friend had one, cos she had had a miscarriage before, but the doc wouldn't let it go on the insurance, so she paid €100 i think? Could be wrong on the price tho!

    Really hating any trousers that are tight and heavy, jeans etc. The scales says Ive lost weight but I feel bigger than ever!

    I hear you on the food - just looking at it makes me queasy! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Really thought I might have two in there too! With all the nausea, and bloating, and because of last year, but he double checked and there is only one thankfully!

    I heard you can get a scan after 7 weeks in ireland if you pay? think my friend had one, cos she had had a miscarriage before, but the doc wouldn't let it go on the insurance, so she paid €100 i think? Could be wrong on the price tho!

    Really hating any trousers that are tight and heavy, jeans etc. The scales says Ive lost weight but I feel bigger than ever!

    I hear you on the food - just looking at it makes me queasy! :)

    I could get a private scan but no point with 2 scans within a week of each other before the end of the month, I'm just impatient. Am mixing normal dresses and maternity dresses at the moment in the hope of keeping this to myself until August, but I so look pregnant!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    I just found out that I'm expecting- a total shock- I had a miscarriage last month and must have gotten pregnant almost straight away. I'm having an early scan next Thursday to get a better idea of dates. I'm hoping for an Aquarian though (before 18th). This will be my fourth baby, still feels weird saying that! I'm incredibly tired- going to bed around 830 every night- and pretty nauseous too although I've only actually vomited a few times. I had really severe morning sickness in my last pregnancy up until about 18 weeks and was on a drip for a while so hopefully it doesn't go that way again. I found the last time if I stayed away from sugar, dairy and wheat I was a lot less sick so I'm going to try that again...got myself some calcium supplements today in preparation.

    We haven't told anyone yet even our family so it's nice having the thread. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Congratulations Rosy Posy! And Welcome!

    Hope the scan goes well. 4 will be a lot of kids! Im struggling to imagine even my life with number 1 on the way! :)

    I have an aversion to wheat too, i only have to think about it and I feel sick! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭marysnow


    Hi all and congratulations to all of you :)

    We got here to this moment after three years of attempts and after they told us that the only way would have been IVF.
    Nevertheless, after a laparoscopy, the unexpected happened and here we are, still with an idiot smile 4 weeks on after the discovery of Having a baba on the way :)

    So far, I am often very tired and I have loads of pelvic pains. Also, the simple idea of row food, or food in general, gives me nausea, especially before meals time.

    We had already three scans (I was at risk of ectopic and we had to monitor quite a lot) and we heard last Monday the baby's heart for the first time!

    Due to my age, however, we are at risk of further complications. Instead of the CVS, we are going for the Harmony test, which does not carry risk of miscarriage.

    Does any of you intend to do it or knows of someone that did it already? Are you following a special diet?

    Good luck and our countdown is on for February 13th.
    M.

    ps did you inform already your family members??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Im not following any special diet, because of all the morning sickness, the doc suggested that i just eat what i want and not to worry at this stage! A lot of things turn my stomach - hubby says he hates coming home from work for the discussion on what we will have for dinner - because I make a face at almost every suggestion! :)

    No idea on any of the tests sorry.

    We told our immediate families after our 7 week scan the other day. Doc said everything looked good saw heartbeat so we told them. Not telling anyone else tho really. I will be going home to ireland for 4 weeks soon, and will tell some other close friends/ family then, but im not telling everyone. We will be home permanently in Dec so they can all see my bump on Christmas day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭marysnow


    Im not following any special diet, because of all the morning sickness, the doc suggested that i just eat what i want and not to worry at this stage! A lot of things turn my stomach - hubby says he hates coming home from work for the discussion on what we will have for dinner - because I make a face at almost every suggestion! :)

    ...

    I will be going home to ireland for 4 weeks soon, and will tell some other close friends/ family then, but im not telling everyone. We will be home permanently in Dec so they can all see my bump on Christmas day!

    Hi Dori, you made me smile :) The |what do you want for dinner conversation is one of my husband's nightmares. I either want something bland, carbs or nothing at all. But if I don't eat the nausea gets worse! His face, when we discuss shopping or the dinner, is priceless :)

    But he is filling the baskets with all good things, and he became an expert on food allowed and not in pregnancy. It is our first and it took us so long that I think we are waiting the Harmony result to let the fears down a bit, so we are terrorised of doing anything stupid.

    ps try cucumber and watery veggies, they help (at least they are helping me). And fruits, I am mad about fruits these days.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    As regards diet, I'm making a bigger effort to include more protein in my diet as apparently in pregnancy you have the same calorie needs but need more protein. I'm eating lots of eggs and nuts, which are good, and pork, which is not so good, but I'm turned right off fish (normally I'd eat quite a bit of tinned tuna) and I'm a bit paranoid about eating non organic chicken which works out pricey. I'll have to make a big batch of hummus and survive on that for a while. I always eat loads of marmite and avocado when I'm pregnant for some reason- its the only craving I get. I'm really not fussed about it normally. Funnily enough it has lots of B vitimans and folic acid in it! Also trying to eat more warm foods and generally stay warm.

    I amn't too worried about the pregnancy diet- in my last pregnancy I was so sick I didn't keep anything at all down for a week and no water for four days before I got put on the drip and I was super paranoid about how it was effecting the baby- they gave me a scan in the hospital just to put my mind at ease and told me that babies are excellent parasites- they'll take what they need from your body and leave you deficient.

    I get what you ladies are saying about the 'dinner conversation'- I'm finding preparing family meals a chore- I tend to make something separate for myself these days but even looking at some things just makes me want to yak. Definitely going to start cooking double and filling the freezer for when it all gets to be too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Had my scan today so due date is 18th February...on the cusp of Aquarius and Pisces. All my others have been late though :(

    Mistakenly let it slip to the butchers wife that I was expecting- I was asking if the Bresola was raw and she clocked it and asked me straight out- I was too flustered to deny it. I've sworn her to secrecy. Feels weird her knowing when our family don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    When do you plan to tell Rosy? i thought living abroad would make it easier to keep secret but it doesnt! :)

    Congrats on the healthy scan :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    I've told 2 friends, both of whom told me they were pregnant so I couldn't hold back. Plan to tell our families at the end of the month, would keep it to ourselves for longer but can't because of timing. Will tell work once I pass 12 weeks, only because I don't think I can hide it as I'm already showing. Last time I didn't tell work until past 16 weeks and it was great, time flew!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    When do you plan to tell Rosy? i thought living abroad would make it easier to keep secret but it doesnt! :)

    Congrats on the healthy scan :)

    I reckon 12 weeks. We've always let it slip before then in the past but I think I'd like to wait this time, especially since the miscarriage.

    I'm not sure how our families are going to take it tbh. It's a lot of kids to have with no family support, and my mam had her heart set on me going back to college next year and (finally) getting on a career path...looks like that's not going to happen for a few years more now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    I know a little bit how you feel, weve been abroad over two years now, and Im not allowed work here at all, so ive been living the good life! My family are always on at me about what Im going to do when I come home. Ive decided Im not going to go back to the 'career ' I left to follow my husband around the world - Engineering, cos I felt it had destroyed my soul before we left, so its all new options now - which my family want answers on but I dont have any!

    Also coming home 7 months pregggers right before Xmas isnt going to help any plans that I did have ( Business courses etc). I think theyll leave me to it once the baby is born ( fingers still crossed), for about 6 months then the questions and pressure will start again! I know they mean well, but i have a feeling im going to really enjoy being a stay at home Mum! :) But well see! (also there is no guarantee with my husbands job that we will stay in Ireland more than 2 years at a time)


    How old are your kids? Have you thought of doing online courses or anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    How old are your kids? Have you thought of doing online courses or anything?

    6, 4, 1 1/2. I did a certificate course when my eldest was a baby and I found it incredibly difficult to balance motherhood and study. The masters I want to do is pretty challenging, and I need to get top marks if I want to get on the pHD programme which will lead to the career I would like. I've been emailing the course director and she recommended waiting til my youngest was three at least before trying to get the head down. She said, and I agree that your kids are only young for such a short time if you have the resources to be at home with them and are so inclined then do it to the best of your ability before moving on. I got pregnant at the end of my final year in college and at this stage will be 40 by the time I enter the workforce fully qualified but that's still 10 years full time mothering, 5 years study, and 25 years of work. That seems like a good balance to me.

    Part of the problem is that my mother and mil both worked like dogs through their childbearing years to further their careers and by choosing a different path it's seen as an implicit criticism of their parenting...which it's absolutely not- they both excelled in their fields and neither had the temperament for being at home with kids all day- it's just not how we choose to structure our family.

    It's something I've found across the board that our parents became sensitive about their parenting choices when we made different ones, or chose not to follow their advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Masters and PhDs really do take up so much time and energy! More than regular 9-5 work i think, because you are constantly aware of being on such a tight schedule and funding, and there are no sick days really every day counts! I would not like to have done mine with a baby at home!

    My mum gave up work when she had me (number 2) and I think always regretted it from an independence point of view. She and my dad separated 10 years later, and he wasn't always on time with maintenance and she felt completely controlled by him financially. I think she believes that Im screwing myself by relying on my husband so much, even though she thinks he is wonderful (as do I) :)

    Also I was the only one of my siblings to finish uni, even do a PhD, and then I just walked away. they were so proud of me saw such a bright future for me, but cant really understand how utterly miserable I was!

    So hubby and I are doing whats best for us and he says if I start cracking up at home hell fully support me going back to work. Which is great, but Im worried when thatll be!

    I think everyone has to figure out what will be best for them and their families, as Mothers and MILs are'nt there everyday and really dont know the ins and outs of whats going on at all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    So we've declined the 12 week scan- I wouldn't go for amnio anyway and it wouldn't effect the outcome so it felt a bit pointless. Just wondering if anyone here is getting it and what your reasons are?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    First scan done, all present and correct :-) Finally able to relax now a little


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭marysnow


    Hi all,

    I am quite anxious about possible syndromes and, due to myage, we have decided to go for a test. We have done the Panorama test (samething than the Harmony) and we had already 3 scans. They will give us theresults in 10 business days and it is more reliable (albeit significantly moreexpensive) than the nuchal scan and the combined tests.

    This morning we went for the test and prior to it they did ascan (to make sure that the baby was ok and in the right pregnancy stage forthe test). He or she was moving like a little bull most of the time, so muchthat the consultant took a while to take a clear picture to check themeasurements!

    But I have to admit, I did not imagine to feel so connectedto this little thing so early, Seeing all that life in such a small thingreally made me smile.

    Now fingers crossed that all is also fine, I am so concerned!

    M.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    So do most people have the scan for reassurance? But what if you get a dubious or inconclusive result? Would that not make you more worried in the long run? And it could be all for nothing.

    I suppose it could be because we've never planned any of our pregnancies, but I prefer just to trust that everything will work out as its meant to in the long run. Especially with conceiving this child so soon after miscarrying, despite our best efforts to the contrary, I have the feeling that its out of my hands somehow, that this child is here because they want to be in our family at this time and if its meant to be it will be. There's so little you can do to change the outcome that to me it seems pointless. Of course it's easy for me to take that attitude with three healthy kids on the right side of 35...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Rosy Posy wrote: »
    So do most people have the scan for reassurance? But what if you get a dubious or inconclusive result? Would that not make you more worried in the long run? And it could be all for nothing.

    I suppose it could be because we've never planned any of our pregnancies, but I prefer just to trust that everything will work out as its meant to in the long run. Especially with conceiving this child so soon after miscarrying, despite our best efforts to the contrary, I have the feeling that its out of my hands somehow, that this child is here because they want to be in our family at this time and if its meant to be it will be. There's so little you can do to change the outcome that to me it seems pointless. Of course it's easy for me to take that attitude with three healthy kids on the right side of 35...

    In terms of developmental scans I think these are reassuring, if it picked up on something at least I'd be prepared. I didn't and won't be getting a nuchal scan, it seems pointless as I wouldn't act on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Rosy Posy wrote: »
    So do most people have the scan for reassurance? But what if you get a dubious or inconclusive result? Would that not make you more worried in the long run? And it could be all for nothing.

    I suppose it could be because we've never planned any of our pregnancies, but I prefer just to trust that everything will work out as its meant to in the long run. Especially with conceiving this child so soon after miscarrying, despite our best efforts to the contrary, I have the feeling that its out of my hands somehow, that this child is here because they want to be in our family at this time and if its meant to be it will be. There's so little you can do to change the outcome that to me it seems pointless. Of course it's easy for me to take that attitude with three healthy kids on the right side of 35...

    In terms of developmental scans I think these are reassuring, if it picked up on something at least I'd be prepared. I didn't and won't be getting a nuchal scan, it seems pointless as I wouldn't act on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 BeanieBuddy


    Hi all - just popping in to join the thread as it'll be great to have people to chat with that are at the same stage.

    Due date 8th of Feb, first baby by 2nd round of IVF after 2 years of trying. We're over the moon and have just started telling extended family and friends this week. Had a scan at 7 weeks at the IVF clinic, a private one at 10 weeks when I had a minor (ish) wobble due to my symptoms easing off and just had 12 wk scan at Holles St on Tuesday.

    All is looking well and we're just keeping our fingers crossed for a healthy pregnancy and birth :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Congratulations BeanieBuddy!

    We told our family today. I read the kids a book called 'There's going to be a baby' - it's really beautiful with illustrations by Helen Oxenbury who did the Bear Hunt book, then got them to guess the news. My just-turned-5 year old guessed and she and the 6yo jumped up and down and were very excited. The nearly-2yo said 'what?' then looked very serious before declaring 'baby girl' and going on with his duplo...he doesn't really get it. We let the older two Skype granny and grandad and tell them. They had friends over at the time and their false delight was palpable! Oh well, it's done now. Now to tell inlaws and friends...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 BeanieBuddy


    That sounds like a lovely way to share the news with your older children :)

    We told in-laws and friends/colleagues after the 12 week scan. Not everyone knows yet, because we're not doing a big announcement or anything, just sharing the news as we meet people in the normal course of events. Reactions have varied and some have been a little strange, but it's not about other people really!

    I'm getting lots and lots of advice re breastfeeding from other Mums my age - who knew it was such a minefield!?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    We told in-laws and friends/colleagues after the 12 week scan. Not everyone knows yet, because we're not doing a big announcement or anything, just sharing the news as we meet people in the normal course of events. Reactions have varied and some have been a little strange, but it's not about other people really!!

    I'm finding it hard to tell people, I don't know why. I what's apped my close friends from home but I find I can't quite get it out to friends here. I've told random people when it's come up- like the bank manager and a girl at my Zumba class but I don't know what's holding me back. Everyone seems so busy and it's like my close friends here all had their two kids around the same time as my eldest two and are now moving on out of the baby stage.
    I'm getting lots and lots of advice re breastfeeding from other Mums my age - who knew it was such a minefield!?!

    I found this so exhausting with my first! Much easier with subsequent babies to smile and nod and do what it was you were going to do in the first case!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Ive told pretty much everyone now, just finished a 3 week stint in Ireland so got it all out of the way! Now on to the american friends! :)

    Ive gotten no advice about breast feeding, but lots of chat about what car/buggy to get!

    Also a friend is into the reusable nappies, so I got a lot of info on that, and slings/carriers of all kinds. She had me pretty convinced about the nappies when i left - lets see if it sticks!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Also a friend is into the reusable nappies, so I got a lot of info on that, and slings/carriers of all kinds. She had me pretty convinced about the nappies when i left - lets see if it sticks!!

    I used cloth nappies for 6 years. I don't think I would have done it if I was living back in Ireland. Do you live somewhere with significantly less rain and more sunshine, dori?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭dori_dormer


    Rosy Posy wrote: »
    I used cloth nappies for 6 years. I don't think I would have done it if I was living back in Ireland. Do you live somewhere with significantly less rain and more sunshine, dori?


    At the moment yes! But we will have moved back to ireland before Xmas :(

    these are the kind my friend is using http://www.amazon.com/Alva-Washable-Reusable-Diaper-Inserts/dp/B00AT60GMM/ref=sr_1_9?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1376334961&sr=1-9&keywords=reusable+nappies+all+in+one

    I must admit I am lured in by the long term cost effectiveness especially if used on multiple children ( and this is only my first so heres hoping therell be more!) the lower impact on environment, less chemicals, and especially the pretty colours!!!!!! :D

    of course the extra work involved getting them clean is a downside, but she made it look like no extra work when changing/out and about for the 2 days i was with her.

    Any other pros/cons I should think about before making this big decision Rosy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Well you did ask..here's a copy of an email I sent to my friend who asked me about cloth a while back...it's pretty long, sorry:

    You've come to the right person...in my sixth year of nappy washing, for my sins. I practically have a phd in poop.

    First off, I would say that living in a considerably drier and sunnier climate than Ireland has been a big factor in our decision. If you're looking at it from a solely environmental concern, if you'll be using a drier regularly then there's much of a muchness between cloth and disposables, especially if you're using biodegradable/compostable disposables and have a composting facility (probably wouldn't want to be spreading this on your vege garden tho- a lot of biodegradable plant based 'plastics' are made from gmo cornstarch).

    Another big thing is the cost factor- it takes a fair whack to get set up with all the gear. We were lucky that a bunch of mates got together and bought us the initial set. You want to figure out how often you want to wash them as regards how many you get but a good rule of thumb is to get as many as will be a full load of your washing machine, plus enough to get you through as long as it will take you to wash and dry them. If you get less than this you will have to be running the machine before you have a full load which will cost you (and the environment). I know some people just stick a few pee nappies in with their normal wash but I like to wash them really hot with tea tree and baking soda to sterilise them and you don't really want that gear on your other stuff. Once the baby starts eating tho you can soak the food encrusted stuff and wash it with your nappies. I also used cloth pads for my post natal bleed- much gentler on your sensitive bits than synthetic disposable pads- I'd highly recommend you treat yourself to bamboo for the first few days- and soaked and rinsed them with the poo nappies.

    The modern style nappies usually have an inner that you change and a cover that you only wash if it gets dirty. We use imse vimse (swedish brand) http://www.imsevimse.co.uk which I found brilliant. They are organic and all natural. The inner parts can be used the whole way up and the covers are sized. We got away with a few newborn sizes, three smalls and five larges. The only thing with using the same inners the whole time is that now, by baby number three the inners are in absolute tatters- really little more than rags. This doesn't bother me too much when you consider their purpose, but I think if I was starting out again planning a large family I would get the kind that the inner part is sized, if you get what i mean? Imse Vimse also do an all in one nappy which I wouldn't go with for everyday use because they take ages to dry but are really handy for when you're out and about- I usually keep one in my handbag.

    The advantage of the woollen covers is that when they just have pee on them you can hang them up and air them and they don't smell so you hardly have to wash them. You can treat them with lanolin to make them (semi) waterproof. For watertightness you can't beat a lined PUL laminate, but you have to wash these more frequently.

    Other stuff that you will need are a couple of buckets with tight fitting lids and somewhere to store them convenient to your toilet and laundry, a decent washing machine with a separate rinse cycle ( I usually put the poo-ey nappies on a cold rinse cycle with baking soda first) and some kind of system for getting the poo into the toilet...low tech/strong stomach option is a wire scrubbing brush...high tech/convenience option is a spray attachment for your toilet similar to those found in asia (coined by a visitor to our house as 'the ass gun') http://www.methven.com/au/range/home-health/little-squirt/ we have one of these, it is so worth it. Oh and eco detergents, I use tea tree and baking soda as well but its not essential. Also don't bother with paper liners, they are swizz.

    We always used cloth from the start, although a lot of people use disposables in the first few weeks. I just felt that it would be easier to start as we wanted to continue and it would be too hard to go back once we started using disposables. Also I felt quite precious about my newborns and didn't want to put anything unnatural on their skin. But you should know that they use far more nappies in the first few weeks as they are adjusting from having everything constantly flowing in and out of them in the womb (this is helpful to keep in mind when they are breastfeeding round the clock too- don't worry, its not forever). Also the first poos are sticky black meconium and a mission to get clean...so enlist some help in the first few weeks from friends and family who are not afraid to get down and dirty....(this is probably a good policy in any case).

    Holy moly that's some essay, perhaps I should write a book! Sorry its so lengthy I'm just quite excited that someone else is considering going cloth, I don't think I know anyone in Ireland who does, but its really normal here. It seems like a lot of work but its like baking bread or anything really, once you get into a rhythm of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Hello everyone. Count me in here! Number 4 on the way. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Lil2010


    Hi all, new to this thread. Im due on 7th Feb 2014. This is my first baby. Really had a reality check today, this time next year (all going to ok) im going to have a little baby to take care of. Super excited and very nervous at the same time. Happy to have this forum now were I can share as its nice to do so with other pregnant ladies who are going through the same thing xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 haveyoumetted?


    Daddy to be here to join the February Club. Due on the 6th of Feb. First Baby. So excited :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Lil2010


    I'm 14 weeks and had severe pain in left ovary area which lasted about 30mins. Went the doc and he couldn't really tell me what it was. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced such pain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Lil2010 wrote: »
    I'm 14 weeks and had severe pain in left ovary area which lasted about 30mins. Went the doc and he couldn't really tell me what it was. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced such pain.

    I had random tummy cramps in the early days with my third pregnancy- almost like a stitch but lower down. They went away sometime in the second trimester and I have no idea what caused them but my baby did have quite a low lying placenta which thankfully moved up in the third trimester.

    Have you had a scan already to rule out an ectopic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Khannie wrote: »
    Hello everyone. Count me in here! Number 4 on the way. :)

    What ages are your others, Khannie? I have a 6yr old (will be 7 when newbie arrives), just turned 5yr old and a nearly 2yr old. I still need to pinch myself sometimes when I think that soon I'll be a mum of 4! My OH had an aul wan in his office yesterday tell him it was irresponsible of us to have four kids as we wouldn't be able to afford to educate them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Lil2010 wrote: »
    I'm 14 weeks and had severe pain in left ovary area which lasted about 30mins. Went the doc and he couldn't really tell me what it was. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced such pain.

    I wouldn't be going to the doc myself. For stuff like that we would tend to ring the hospital we're registered with and ask to speak to a midwife.

    I'm gonna tell you up front that on your first they are likely to be slightly more dismissive of you.

    Also, for what it's worth, my wife has been having pains on her left side lately. Some pain is normal around now with womb growing and what not, but yours sounds particularly bad (hard to tell from what you've said) so some medical advice from a pregnancy focused healthcare professional is on the cards for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Rosy Posy wrote: »
    What ages are your others, Khannie? I have a 6yr old (will be 7 when newbie arrives), just turned 5yr old and a nearly 2yr old.

    You're braver than I am. :D Ours are 15 (16 next month), 6 and 3. The 6 and the 3 year old will be 7 and 4 when baby comes. This is probably our last, barring any accidents, because my wife's having a rough enough pregnancy (definitely our roughest so far). I was hoping for twins for the finish. Not sure why but I've always wanted twins.

    The 15 year old is a godsend though. In house babysitter. :) He's a very nice lad too. Not a minutes trouble out of him, touch wood.

    Do you plan on having any more? (not at the moment says you)
    Rosy Posy wrote: »
    I still need to pinch myself sometimes when I think that soon I'll be a mum of 4! My OH had an aul wan in his office yesterday tell him it was irresponsible of us to have four kids as we wouldn't be able to afford to educate them!

    What a load of nonsense. I can't abide stuff like that. Keep your nose out lady...what do you think is going to happen? We wont send them to school, like?

    My own attitude is this: One more mouth - sure it'll be grand. That probably sounds a bit flippant, but I remember my old boss telling me that if you asked him could his parents (old school Catholic Ireland, no contraception etc) afford a 4th child the answer would have been no, but a fourth came along and everyone got by. Then if you'd asked them could they afford a fifth the answer would have been no, but a fifth came along and everyone got by. I always remember that.

    Also, more hugs!


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