Trying to start a career in IT

itste1988

As title states im trying to get a career in the it sector but im having no luck.

At the moment i have Comptia A+,Network + and MCSA in Windows 7 but no one is getting back to me ive applied everywhere mostly helpdesk as i know its where you need to start off..

Any advice on what to do (Cert wise etc) would be great and much appreciated

thanks in advance

Dr_Brian_Cocks

Start at the beginning is what I would suggest!

itste1988

Dr_Brian_Cocks wrote: »

Start at the beginning is what I would suggest!

thats what im trying to do!! if you haven't got any productive advice don't comment on this post

Dr_Brian_Cocks

itste1988 wrote: »

thats what im trying to do!! if you haven't got any productive advice don't comment on this post

Make me..

ArmaniJeanss

What does 'I.T' stand for?

The Backwards Man

Better off posting here OP

We're all half mad here.

Dr_Brian_Cocks

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

What does 'I.T' stand for?

Interterrestrial

mr_edge_to_you

"have you tried restarting your machine?"

"we need to update your Java"

there's 2 lines to get ya started.

ringadingding

Have you tried turning it off and back on again ?

Micky Dolenz

I used to be with IT, then they changed what IT was.

Peregrine

itste1988 wrote: »

thats what im trying to do!! if you haven't got any productive advice don't comment on this post

You've come to the totally wrong forum for productive advice

Can someone point to the right forum without taking the piss? :pac: I can't find anything for this

Fr_Dougal

itste1988 wrote: »

As title states im trying to get a career in the it sector but im having no luck.

At the moment i have Comptia A+,Network + and MCSA in Windows 7 but no one is getting back to me ive applied everywhere mostly helpdesk as i know its where you need to start off..

Any advice on what to do (Cert wise etc) would be great and much appreciated

thanks in advance

You'll need more than Simple Compatia A+, Network + and MCSA...sure they're teaching that in transition year these days.

Amirani

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You'll need more than Simple Compatia A+, Network + and MCSA...sure they're teaching that in transition year these days.

I did it in primary school myself.

The Backwards Man

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Better off posting here OP

We're all half mad here.

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

You've come to the totally forum for productive advice

Can someone point to the right forum without taking the piss? :pac: I can't find anything for this

I knew I was backwards, didn't know I was invisible too.:pac:

kneemos

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You'll need more than Simple Compatia A+, Network + and MCSA...sure they're teaching that in transition year these days.

Possibly why he's posting in AH.

Peregrine

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I knew I was backwards, didn't know I was invisible too.:pac:

Oops, sorry Backwards Man, it wasn't there when I started typing :pac:

Mrs Garth Brooks

I've always had an interest in computers. Im unemployed and saw a fas course as an IT support specialist. But I dont know what it involves.

Does anyone know what an IT support specialist do all day?

El Gato

I would suggest that you select a specific discipline and get certified in that.

It may appear that there are many jobs out there but there are equally many more qualified candidates.

Having a certificate in commercial computing and a level 8 BSc I found it extremely difficult to get a role. Helpdesk etc are a good way to enter the industry.

If you're not getting replys I would advise followup emails/calls to the companies (research hr managers names and email/call them directly).

I will post a more specific post when I get home

dr strangelove

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

What does 'I.T' stand for?

D'uh, "Internet Things"

Micky Dolenz

El Gato wrote: »

I would suggest that you select a specific discipline and get certified in that.

It may appear that there are many jobs out there but there are equally many more qualified candidates.

Having a certificate in commercial computing and a level 8 BSc I found it extremely difficult to get a role. Helpdesk etc are a good way to enter the industry.

If you're not getting replys I would advise followup emails/calls to the companies (research hr managers names and email/call them directly).

I will post a more specific post when I get home

Don't bother. the op isn't really interesting in IT stuff.

Encrypted Pigeon

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I've always had an interest in computers. Im unemployed and saw a fas course as an IT support specialist. But I dont know what it involves.

Does anyone know what an IT support specialist do all day?

This pretty much

PizzamanIRL

You're asking a forum for advice that changed a dole thread discussion into a jam/marmalade discussion within a matter of minutes.

Good luck!

starlit

Its very difficult to break into an I.T career for a grad or at entry level at the mo without experience, certs as well as a degree/3rd level degree.

Start at the beginning like helpdesk, IT sales or technical or customer service support or call centre or telecommunications. Software development/programming or something like software or hardware. Loads of areas to branch into if you have an idea what field of IT career you want.

Its a matter of getting foot in the door and hopefully jobs follow on but things dont always go to plan. You can plan but not be prepared anything is possible but you have to really want it and you be sucessful.

Knowing what you want and achieve is half the battle and sure of your career path is important. If you stuck not knowing where your career is headed look at other options until you decide but you wont know until you try.

Czarcasm

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I've always had an interest in computers. Im unemployed and saw a fas course as an IT support specialist. But I dont know what it involves.

Does anyone know what an IT support specialist do all day?

As little as possible!

Ah no, seriously, an IT Support Specialist could honestly cover a multitude of areas, a bit like the way I'm a self-employed IT Consultant - covers a multitude, because one day I could be advising a customer (I hate the word "clients", sounds so head up my own àrse!) on the latest technology available in mobile phones and the different network tariffs, the next day I could be up to my tits in wires and networking cables trying to sort out a companys servers, day after that I could be stuck in the àrsehole of nowhere trying to remove a stubborn virus from a customers laptop or retrieve their documents from a botched hard drive.

Or, more likely you could be placed in a company providing IT Support which would mean keeping their computer systems and network ticking over so they don't have to call guys like me that will charge them an arm and a leg to fix the problem and get them back up and running!

If you PM me a link to the course I'm sure I could tell you more about what it involves.

starlit

The work and jobs or IT cert forum be best place to ask advice on this op.

Czarcasm

doovdela wrote: »

The work and jobs or IT cert forum be best place to ask advice on this op.

The OP was banned, thread moved on without them.

starlit

Czarcasm wrote: »

The OP was banned, thread moved on without them.

Oh right didnt realise.

CarlDunne1979

Just don't offer anyone bacon, and you'll be AOK.

DJjazzyjeff

The MCSA in Windows 7 isn't worth the paper its written on.

If you want to go down the networking path then MCSA in Windows Server(active directory,DNS set up etc) and then get the MCSP in Windows Server. CCNA(Setting up switches and routers) is essential as well and then get your CCNP after a year or two. Maybe get a Linux Comptia + exam and maybe a vmware exam.

If you want to go down the programming path then MCSD in Web development, MCSA in SQL Server(SQL SERVER JOBS are BOOMING) are essential and even MCSA windows server is essential as well. If you are using Java then obviously Java certs. Obviously then get the professional exams after a while instead of the MCSA

If you want to work with Oracle then get as many certs as you gone. I have the MCSA in SQL server and Windows Server and I just finished third year.

starlit

At the moment technical support roles require more than just specialised skills but mixture of other I.T stuff as well as some roles require foreign languages.

El Gato

Was going to reply further but seeing as op was banned, no point imo.

Back to the few Sat nite BULMERS!

propertyefc

DJjazzyjeff wrote: »

The MCSA in Windows 7 isn't worth the paper its written on.

If you want to go down the networking path then MCSA in Windows Server(active directory,DNS set up etc) and then get the MCSP in Windows Server. CCNA(Setting up switches and routers) is essential as well and then get your CCNP after a year or two. Maybe get a Linux Comptia + exam and maybe a vmware exam.

If you want to go down the programming path then MCSD in Web development, MCSA in SQL Server(SQL SERVER JOBS are BOOMING) are essential and even MCSA windows server is essential as well. If you are using Java then obviously Java certs. Obviously then get the professional exams after a while instead of the MCSA

If you want to work with Oracle then get as many certs as you gone. I have the MCSA in SQL server and Windows Server and I just finished third year.

you know all this in third year????

get a life and enjoy your youth

PizzamanIRL

propertyefc wrote: »

you know all this in third year????

get a life and enjoy your youth

That's the type of attitude that stops young people trying to develop their skills.

You can't force people to like certain things, and he obviously likes this stuff.

propertyefc

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

That's the type of attitude that stops young people trying to develop their skills.

You can't force people to like certain things, and he obviously likes this stuff.

he's obviously a virgin

DaveDaRave

When people say IT are they talking about more network admin sort of stuff rather than say software development. Or are they both subsets of IT

DJjazzyjeff

propertyefc wrote: »

you know all this in third year????

get a life and enjoy your youth

Yea, hopefully get a job now during fourth year, and plan on getting plenty more certs during fourth year. What they teach in Secondary school is pointless bar Maths and bores the absolute pants off me.

DJjazzyjeff

propertyefc wrote: »

he's obviously a virgin

Your obviously on the dole. And your ma loves it up the bum

B.A._Baracus

How does one get education in I.T. ?

Was chatting to a guy recently who did a fas course and the fas instructor said that if you wanna learn I.T. a fas course wont help you ... Question is what will help you tho?

Czarcasm

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

That's the type of attitude that stops young people trying to develop their skills.

You can't force people to like certain things, and he obviously likes this stuff.

I personally think it's fantastic to see a young person so interested in IT and not just facebook and twitter ****e, more power to them tbh! I have an eight year old who is the same, I haven't taught him any serious programming yet as he's not at that level, but he's comfortable enough with operating systems, networking and office applications at the moment.

propertyefc wrote: »

he's obviously a virgin

Well of course he is as he's not of the age of consent yet which would be 17. I can't see how that would relate to anything IT related though.

MadYaker

Go to a proper university and do an IT degree? Not that hard.

Czarcasm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

How does get education in I.T. ?

Was chatting to a guy recently who did a fas course and the fas instructor said that if you wanna learn I.T. a fas course wont help you ... Question is what will help you tho?

You get out of a course what you put into it, and your friend was talking nonsense.

B.A._Baracus

Czarcasm wrote: »

You get out of a course what you put into it, and your friend was talking nonsense.

You are probably right. Said person I know is just an acquaintance - so being honest I wouldn't put 100% faith in what he said.

DJjazzyjeff

MadYaker wrote: »

Go to a proper university and do an IT degree? Not that hard.

Not really, My mam works a recruiter and I.T Certs are 10 times more important than a degree. I.T courses in colleges are meant to poop.

DJjazzyjeff

Czarcasm wrote: »

You get out of a course what you put into it, and your friend was talking nonsense.

Wrong, If someone does a FAS I.T course no chance of getting a job.

B.A._Baracus

DJjazzyjeff wrote: »

Wrong, If someone does a FAS I.T course no chance of getting a job.

:pac:
Think you are right there mate. Now, I can't speak for every FAS course. but the ones I have done and also the ones I researched into about doing .... are so pointless.

DaveDaRave

DJjazzyjeff wrote: »

Not really, My mam works a recruiter and I.T Certs are 10 times more important than a degree. I.T courses in colleges are meant to poop.

Really?
Any job i look at on job sites in my area says must have degree + X Y Z skills + certs optional. Thats mainly development work maybe its different for network/admin/OS stuff

Czarcasm

DJjazzyjeff wrote: »

Wrong, If someone does a FAS I.T course no chance of getting a job.

My 25 years working in the IT industry says you're wrong. Now you might know your stuff when it comes to IT, but never forget the old saying that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and I was up to my tits in server hardware before your àrse was as big as a shirt button.

Your mum is also wrong about college and university courses in IT too btw, as a friend of mine who's 44 and landed a job as a java developer in one of the top universities in the country will testify to.

I can give you plenty more examples of how you might be misrepresenting your mothers opinion, but I'm not one for deflating bubbles, I'd sooner you learn in your own time that your opinion isn't worth shìt.

B.A._Baracus

Czarcasm, could you recommend the best routes for someone to break into the I.T. industry?

CarlDunne1979

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Czarcasm, could you recommend the best routes for someone to break into the I.T. industry?

He'll only tell you there are an "unlimited abundance" of jobs going for any doofus that's ever used a computer to watch porn, only a conspiracy has brainwashed these people into believing you actually need skill. :rolleyes:

This will only make sense to you if you were reading the slu.. I mean "damsels as sexually free as a daisy blowing in the wind" thread.

Czarcasm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Czarcasm, could you recommend the best routes for someone to break into the I.T. industry?

Tbh BA the first thing you need in IT is the right attitude, and as has been displayed in this thread already - you can have all the knowledge, but the wrong attitude and you'll get fcukall anywhere in IT.

There are so many areas you could go into and without talking to you in person I couldn't possibly recommend a specific career path in IT that might interest you, certainly not off the back of a few posts in one thread anyway tbh.

I know it's not much help but that's honestly the best answer I can give you. I'd hate to recommend such and such a course and have you drop out half way through from lack of interest or lack of understanding given the level of difficulty and then say "I only tried it because that Czarcasm prick on Boards told me to go for it, he was so full of shìt, I never should've listened to him!", etc, ahh hopefully you get where I'm coming from :pac:

El Gato

DJjazzyjeff wrote: »

Not really, My mam works a recruiter and I.T Certs are 10 times more important than a degree. I.T courses in colleges are meant to poop.

What crap are you talking?

A cert is 10 times more important than a degree?

Most companies won't even consider an applicant unless there is a Level 8 outlined on the CV (that's for Programming/Networking/Web jobs etc)

That is a totally ridiculous statement to make.

The majority of people who do a course in say, software development in FAS (not even sure if they offer it anymore) get an intro to VS.net and Java (for dummies) and are nowhere near prepared for a career in development (for example)....For networking a CCNA is the absolute minimum most companies will look for when an applicant shows interest.

Before posting please have knowledge about the subject as it is not helpful to the OP (even though the OP is banned, there are other people who may need the same info)