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Most soul destroying leaving cert subject?

  • 14-06-2013 10:01pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭


    For me it would have to be Business. The way most of the course has absolutely no value whatsoever in setting up an enterprise or even working in a business was particularly desolating. The topics covered in unit 2 confirmed my hatred for education. "Explain the characteristics of an entrepreneur?" :rolleyes: Geography deserves a mention as well.

    So LC'ers, which subject did you find the most soul destroying?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    Physics. Ambiguous fooking questions do my head in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    lcvp :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭N64


    pretty much every subject you study has no value to you whatsoever in the real world (the way they are thought - not the subject topics themselves) - so all of them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭andrew369


    History, it would take an odd person to enjoy writing 8 pages on Irish economic polices of the 1940s in 40 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    knowing that when going for a job interview you dont sit down till you are told to, was the only decent thing i learned!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    As an exam-Art
    1 trillion percent ART, it took a knife to my heart

    Hadnt covered a single thing in the middle section of the paper, I quite possibly failed art of all subjects

    Irish or English as a subject to study-Poetry......I will never get it

    I'm just awful at Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭comeclosa


    Geography, HANDS DOWN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭olazbabes


    Projects Maths by far. Does anybody get the feeling that you study hard from your book to understand the basics instead you get a puzzle. Project maths has been a pain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    Maths was probably my weakest subject but I didn't find it soul destroying or anything because it's actually applicable to a lot of jobs. Business and Geography were just so boring and have no value really, it was depressing having to learn them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭shootie


    Classical studies.

    Don't get me wrong, it's really interesting and all. But it's basically like doing 4 extra Macbeths coupled with a History topic and Art.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Tommyrawr


    comeclosa wrote: »
    Geography, HANDS DOWN

    Geography definitely. Felt like a stalactite piercing through my heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 CNR94


    I'd have to go with Business too... I struggled to drag myself to class everyday. It's not particularly tricky or anything but it's just so full of... ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭aimzLc2


    For me , English! The most frustrating times in my life concerned the leaving cert English course , i am a repeater therefore i did hamlet and macbeth, about 8 poets, 5 comparatives, plaths name makes me shudder :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    In a way Biology is for me. It's been grand studying it, just learning straight facts, but some of the stuff, especially the plant chapters is just almost nonsensical. Like why do mother cells have to divide and destroy themselves again only to end up make three nuclei? I don't know why was learning that stuff.
    And then there came the exams themselves, tis terrible stuff altogether! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 CNR94


    kingcobra wrote: »
    In a way Biology is for me. It's been grand studying it, just learning straight facts, but some of the stuff, especially the plant chapters is just almost nonsensical. Like why do mother cells have to divide and destroy themselves again only to end up make three nuclei? I don't know why was learning that stuff.
    And then there came the exams themselves, tis terrible stuff altogether! :D

    Although Biology is my favorite subject, I hated the plant chapters... they're so boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Only one mention of Maths so far?

    Seems they're getting soft on ye whippersnappers...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭Legion.


    Maths: Some of the stuff was just ridiculous. Had no interest in it, and i cant believe the time I spent punishing myself in HL although I hated it so much.

    Geography: Just piles and piles and piles of random information. Some of its useful for pub quizzes, or if you spend your days watching 'The Chase'. Other than that, only useful if you wish to pursue a career related to it.

    Would disagree with you on business, the stuff about the different types of business, how they're formed and their advantages etc has real life applications. As does learning about the acts, your rights etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I think irish was the worst for me. Going to 40 mins of class 4 times a week to do something in which I had zero interest in.

    I cant string a sentence together, my oral examiner couldnt get me out the door quick enough and when on her stopwatch it was 10 mins so asked me to leave. Still got a C3 in ordinary with learning a thing.

    One year on I have not used a single thing even through I learnt it for 14 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    hfallada wrote: »
    I think was the worst for me. Going to 40 mins of class 4 times a week to do something in which I had zero interest in.

    I cant string a sentence together, my oral examiner couldnt get me out the door quick enough and when on her stopwatch it was 10 mins so asked me to leave. Still got a C3 in ordinary with learning a thing.

    One year on I have not used a single thing even through I learnt it for 14 years

    What subject


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 CNR94


    hfallada wrote: »
    I think was the worst for me. Going to 40 mins of class 4 times a week to do something in which I had zero interest in.

    I cant string a sentence together, my oral examiner couldnt get me out the door quick enough and when on her stopwatch it was 10 mins so asked me to leave. Still got a C3 in ordinary with learning a thing.

    One year on I have not used a single thing even through I learnt it for 14 years

    I think you accidentally a word.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    Legion. wrote: »
    Would disagree with you on business, the stuff about the different types of business, how they're formed and their advantages etc has real life applications. As does learning about the acts, your rights etc.

    I don't think so tbh, I think it's simplified to such a level that it isn't of any benefit at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    English. Great if your going to be a politician because it's just who can spoof the best and make bull**** links to poems and between texts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    BIOLOGY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    People saying biology? :eek: That was without a doubt, along with chemistry, the only subject I had a general interest in. Horses for courses and all that.

    English and Irish were mine. I don't think I'll ever need to discuss The play Antigone in detail and explain how it affected me. Such a waste of time for me 'cause I have no interest in doing anything English related in college. Irish too. I mean, do we really need to know how to talk about the poetry of Caitlín Maude? I would have preferred a bigger emphasis on speaking the language. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Geekness1234


    Geography.
    Not because ROTE learning SRPs is stupid,the exam is a crock of sh!t or the fact that its mind numbingly boring.
    Moreso it's soul destroying because we are O.K. With the fact that for a subject,there is no emphasis put on intelligence,rather vomiting information under time pressure.
    What's worst is that we haven't made an attempt to change this,and we see it as O.K. And a legitimate way to gauge a student's academic capacity.
    That is why,IMO,Geography is the most soul destroying subject on the LC course.

    But that's just me. :p


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    Geography! I hated it so much that I didn't start studying the course until 5 days before the exam. The coursework was a load of toss as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Physics. Bollix. Load of questions which can be interpreted about 10 different ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭EvM


    shootie wrote: »
    Classical studies.

    Don't get me wrong, it's really interesting and all. But it's basically like doing 4 extra Macbeths coupled with a History topic and Art.


    Yeah, from what I've heard about it from my friends doing it, I'm glad I did Latin instead :p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Moromaster


    Chemistry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Thataone


    So far I've sort of wrapped myself in a bubble of optimism and so everything has been "grand", regardless of how well I did in the paper.
    Let's just say, I've probably set myself up for a disappointment on results day. But then, generally that's how I roll...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭user.name


    Irish! Nothing can explain my hate for the language! Pointless to be honest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    I found it to be chemistry. I chose it in TY coz' I thought it would involve making bombs and fireworks... none of that, sadly. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭peekachoo


    I'm gonna say art.
    Don't get me wrong it's my favourite subject and even outside of school I paint a lot, I even enjoyed the art history!

    Just what gets me is the examiners. :eek:
    you can go into your craft and produce your favourite piece you've ever made and be absolutely delighted with it. And well, if the examiner doesn't get it, doesnt like the style...lost marks! You just never know how it's gonna be marked.
    So whereas maths, geography and Irish burned a deep fire of hatred in my heart everyday, at least you know they're not marked to personal taste. :O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,671 ✭✭✭✭Daniel7740


    Goin to say phys/chem , English, HL Irish and HL maths when before I dropped back to OL in both of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭YoursSincerely


    Accounting, its by far the most mind numbing subject I do!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭RabbitHearted


    RELIGION.

    Horrific..

    (as an exam subject)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 441 ✭✭AndyMc


    I going to go with English simply for poetry.

    Geo - Understanding of erthly processes and why the Earth ;ooks how it does.
    Business - An idea of how businesses work, expand, globalise, are analised, ect
    Chem -An understanding of why thins are how they are and why things have certain properties.
    Irish -Language of my country.
    Maths - Engineering, programming, everyday use
    German - Multilingual skills are a big plus and would make going to Germany a bit smoother

    English:
    Comprehending - Tests skills of comprehending
    Composing - Tests skills of writing

    Macbeth -....
    Comparison -....
    Poetry -....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭Acciaccatura


    The Leaving itself is soul-destroying. All the subjects I sat back and deserved to fail or get Cs in went really well for me, maybe even some As there, and biology, one of the the only subjects I can genuinely say I worked my backside off for goes belly-up :( Music and chemistry had better go well, because although I wouldn't say I'd have a natural aptitude for chemistry I do work hard in them, but one sitting of an exam in each subject isn't fair :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭MWick94


    English! It really ruined reading and watching films for me, because all we ever had to do was analyse the texts and break them down looking for every symbol and metaphor possible. I miss being able to watch something or read a book and just enjoy the plotline for what it is!

    Business was fairly dreary too. Nothing in that subject would ever lead to the genuine success of an enterprise. Half of the syllabus is over-simplified, elongated and outdated!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    MWick94 wrote: »
    English! It really ruined reading and watching films for me, because all we ever had to do was analyse the texts and break them down looking for every symbol and metaphor possible. I miss being able to watch something or read a book and just enjoy the plotline for what it is!

    Business was fairly dreary too. Nothing in that subject would ever lead to the genuine success of an enterprise. Half of the syllabus is over-simplified, elongated and outdated!!

    If I have self-belief, self-motivation and am ruthless, I am a successful entrepreneur.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    If I have self-belief, self-motivation and am ruthless, I am a successful entrepreneur.

    characteristic of being alive is also a must-have i reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    MWick94 wrote: »
    Business was fairly dreary too. Nothing in that subject would ever lead to the genuine success of an enterprise. Half of the syllabus is over-simplified, elongated and outdated!!

    I loved Business as an exam subject, I wish all exams had a similar format/exam layout/ability to comprehend as much as business.
    I think its a model subject and all Leaving cert subjects should look to it and try to base themselves somehow around the formation of the business subject. :D

    I sense this is going to be an unpopular opinion. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    HugsiePie wrote: »
    I loved Business as an exam subject, I wish all exams had a similar format/exam layout/ability to comprehend as much as business.
    I think its a model subject and all Leaving cert subjects should look to it and try to base themselves somehow around the formation of the business subject. :D

    I sense this is going to be an unpopular opinion. :o

    A perfect example of what is wrong with this country.

    You merely like business because it can effectively be considered easy points.
    I suppose you hate the challenging aspects of project maths too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 441 ✭✭AndyMc


    HugsiePie wrote: »
    I loved Business as an exam subject, I wish all exams had a similar format/exam layout/ability to comprehend as much as business.
    I think its a model subject and all Leaving cert subjects should look to it and try to base themselves somehow around the formation of the business subject. :D

    I sense this is going to be an unpopular opinion. :o

    Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    A perfect example of what is wrong with this country.

    You merely like business because it can effectively be considered easy points.
    I suppose you hate the challenging aspects of project maths too.

    No. I actually enjoyed it,and its not easy points, I could sing everything you need to know to you cause I found it easy to understand, I can see the point in learning business and how it will affect everyone someway in their daily lifes, problem is I never get above a C in my exams cause I go so indebth into my answers. I will never see how I will ever need to know 90% of the junk we learn in other subjects.

    I also reckon its a fair exam, I actually find the ABQ very good for showing your understanding of business in everyday life.

    My teacher also helped to make it enjoyable, so that probably added to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    I think accounting is a good subject cause it prepared me for my job so not complaining and economics makes you aware how the country is run and about the current climate :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 441 ✭✭AndyMc


    The problem with business is that the marking scheme is awkwar an specific as hell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    HugsiePie wrote: »
    No. I actually enjoyed it,and its not easy points, I could sing everything you need to know to you cause I found it easy to understand, I can see the point in learning business and how it will affect everyone someway in their daily lifes, problem is I never get above a C in my exams cause I go so indebth into my answers. I will never see how I will ever need to know 90% of the junk we learn in other subjects.

    I also reckon its a fair exam, I actually find the ABQ very good for showing your understanding of business in everyday life.

    My teacher also helped to make it enjoyable, so that probably added to it.
    My teacher had a great rack too tbf. To lower the intellectual tone of this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 441 ✭✭AndyMc


    My teacher had a great rack too tbf. To lower the intellectual tone of this thread.

    I feel your pain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭aoifemcg94


    It's kills me to see people write Irish here.
    By no means am I good at Irish (hoping for a C ) but it is our language and is what defines us as Irish apart from Football and the dancing.

    Some mightn't think it's important but it really is ! :D


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