** HL Ag Science Before/After **

Daniel7740

Any predictions lads? What's every one studying?

catherinek12

doubt anyone will be on this til before the exam , ill see what that predictions guy suggests and work from there

Daniel7740

catherinek12 wrote: »

doubt anyone will be on this til before the exam , ill see what that predictions guy suggests and work from there

Predictions guy??

weirdspider

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Predictions guy??

Eoin Jackson I think it is? Hes on youtube. Anyway if you look at the papers its quite difficult to predict Ag Science I just hope its not as bad as the 2011 or 2007 exams

Daniel7740

weirdspider wrote: »

Eoin Jackson I think it is? Hes on youtube. Anyway if you look at the papers its quite difficult to predict Ag Science I just hope its not as bad as the 2011 or 2007 exams

Sound. 2012 was tricky aswell, just hope it's a nice paper as I need a decent result in it to bring up me points

johneugene

I'd know the carbon and nitrogen cycles. Know experiments off.

Daniel7740

Hopefully the 'to the determine the number of earthworms in a pasture' experiment will come up

johneugene

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Hopefully the 'to the determine the number of earthworms in a pasture' experiment will come up

Remember you need 6 valid points per experiment. (6x4)x2= 48

mixery

My worst subject. After I did poorly in everything else I'll try to study as much as possible for this.

Are there any patterns in the experiments question?

johneugene

mixery wrote: »

My worst subject. After I did poorly in everything else I'll try to study as much as possible for this.

Are there any patterns in the experiments question?

Not really im afraid. Sometimes on q2 there is a soil experiment! Do you have a small experiment book from the farmers journal.

hitchcock

This is my repeat subject, I'm aiming for a B1
The main topics I'll focus on: grassland, soil, tillage/crops, genetics, dairy/beef, sheep and pigs.
Then the less significant topics: fertiliser, forestry, plant biology (I know this from biology), animal body systems etc
Then of course all of the experiments especially the soil ones
Any advice on what to focus on, or any general advice?

Daniel7740

hitchcock wrote: »

This is my repeat subject, I'm aiming for a B1
The main topics I'll focus on: grassland, soil, tillage/crops, genetics, dairy/beef, sheep and pigs.
Then the less significant topics: fertiliser, forestry, plant biology (I know this from biology), animal body systems etc
Then of course all of the experiments especially the soil ones
Any advice on what to focus on, or any general advice?

I'm hoping for at least a B3, hopefully goin to do it in college next year

hitchcock

Daniel7740 wrote: »

I'm hoping for at least a B3, hopefully goin to do it in college next year

Yes I was happy with my project so I really want to do as well as I can now in the written Is your ag science course in ucd?

Daniel7740

hitchcock wrote: »

Yes I was happy with my project so I really want to do as well as I can now in the written Is your ag science course in ucd?

Hoping for UCD any way, if not there's one in WIT aswell but its level 7

hitchcock

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Hoping for UCD any way, if not there's one in WIT aswell but its level 7

Lovely! Best of luck with the cramming, hopefully we will get a handy paper!

mossy95

johneugene wrote: »

Not really im afraid. Sometimes on q2 there is a soil experiment! Do you have a small experiment book from the farmers journal.

What do you mean there's no patterns this paper has the most certian question type than any other course, these are guaranteed to come up every year: Q2 Soil Q4 experiments Q7 Genetics

Daniel7740

hitchcock wrote: »

Lovely! Best of luck with the cramming, hopefully we will get a handy paper!

Sound and best of look to yourself! Have 3 tests that week aswell and I need to do well in them for points so a busy "week off" ahead!
Hopefully the marking scheme will be easy aswell

DavidDaly

Hi . Does anyone have any suggestions on what to focus on for the Ag Science Exam?

yoppo

DavidDaly wrote: »

Hi . Does anyone have any suggestions on what to focus on for the Ag Science Exam?

The usual stuff, genetics, experiments, soil, Q1, animal production, crops etc

mossy95

These are the sections that come up evey year Q2 Soil Q4 experiments Q7genetics, that's %50 of that is your test if you chose to do it, so your other 50% is left up in the air. Ps you kinda have to do Q1 aswell

ladymacbeth

I'm going to avoid Grasslands and Genetics. I just suck at them. Soil is difficult enough.
There are just WAY too many experiments!!!!!

Daniel7740

ladymacbeth wrote: »

I'm going to avoid Grasslands and Genetics. I just suck at them. Soil is difficult enough.
There are just WAY too many experiments!!!!!

We never did genetics! Find grassland the handiest in the book! Suppose that's cause I knew a lot of it before I started 5th year haha. Doin crops, dairy, beef, Sheep, pigs, grassland and hopefully a bit of soil. There's some load to cover for soil!

200c200c

Ag Science will hopefully be my best subject Did any of ye get called in for the practical exam ?

Daniel7740

200c200c wrote: »

Ag Science will hopefully be my best subject Did any of ye get called in for the practical exam ?

Hoping for it to be my best subject aswell! I didn't but 2 of the best in the class did, and one of the worst haha

200c200c

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Hoping for it to be my best subject aswell! I didn't but 2 of the best in the class did, and one of the worst haha

Haha yeah its easy enough to prepare for the exam so I'm not too worried
I got called in and it went great so I'm hoping for a high B or even maybe an A

Daniel7740

200c200c wrote: »

Haha yeah its easy enough to prepare for the exam so I'm not too worried
I got called in and it went great so I'm hoping for a high B or even maybe an A

I'm hoping for a B3 at least, hoping that the paper is a nice one

Conor556

200c200c wrote: »

Ag Science will hopefully be my best subject Did any of ye get called in for the practical exam ?

Ya I got called in, all went well and knew all the stuff on the project and plants+ animals, the examiner was sound out

woopah92

200c200c wrote: »

Ag Science will hopefully be my best subject Did any of ye get called in for the practical exam ?

Yep. And I got my marked bumped up as a result :P

200c200c

woopah92 wrote: »

Yep. And I got my marked bumped up as a result :P

How do you know ? The examiner or teacher is not allowed to say ? :cool:

Daniel7740

woopah92 wrote: »

Yep. And I got my marked bumped up as a result :P

Are they allowed to do that? Not very fair on the people who didn't get called in if they can

Lcstudent2013

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Are they allowed to do that? Not very fair on the people who didn't get called in if they can

Yes they're allowed to deduct or increase your marks depending on how your or goes in relation to marks given in the project.
Also , to my knowledge, if the examiner changes the majority of people's marks that were interviewed, the whole class can be increased or decreased marks. I'm not sure if this bit is entirely true though.
I say I got the full 20% going into this exam, thank god

woopah92

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Are they allowed to do that? Not very fair on the people who didn't get called in if they can

Yes it's allowed. I could have been brought down either.
Not my decision, not my fault. Blame the examiner.

200c200c

Lcstudent2013 wrote: »

Yes they're allowed to deduct or increase your marks depending on how your or goes in relation to marks given in the project.
I say I got the full 20% going into this exam, thank god

Yes I know they are allowed deduct or increase the marks, but I'm wondering how you know that yours were increased ? And also if your marks got increased ,then so did everyone else that was originally given the same grade as you So if you were originally a C and got brought to a B then every C in the class is brought to a B !!

Daniel7740

Lcstudent2013 wrote: »

Yes they're allowed to deduct or increase your marks depending on how your or goes in relation to marks given in the project.
Also , to my knowledge, if the examiner changes the majority of people's marks that were interviewed, the whole class can be increased or decreased marks. I'm not sure if this bit is entirely true though.
I say I got the full 20% going into this exam, thank god

Makes sense alright. I really don't know how my project went, felt I could've done better but I had 2 other projects to do and we were just kind of told to do it, weren't really given any advice on what to include in it and couldn't really compare it to most of the class cos most of them are only doin ag science as their "7th subject" if ya no what I mean

woopah92

200c200c wrote: »

Yes I know they are allowed deduct or increase the marks, but I'm wondering how you know that yours were increased ? And also if your marks got increased ,then so did everyone else that was originally given the same grade as you So if you were originally a C and got brought to a B then every C in the class is brought to a B !!

We were left in a room by ourselves with the official marks on the table and no supervision. We were hardly not gonna look I was only brought up by 6% but it could matter in the grand scheme of things. :P

Daniel7740

Were we supposed to put in our own photos into the project?

woopah92

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Were we supposed to put in our own photos into the project?

Yes, including pictures of ourselves on the farm to show we actually did it ourselves and didn't just copy it.

200c200c

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Were we supposed to put in our own photos into the project?

Yes :L We all had about 8 projects each full of photos and all our own personal farm experience too I suppose it did help that all 22 in our class were farmers The examiner said she had never seen projects like ours in 5 years doing this ! She was pure sound

Daniel7740

Had a class of similar size but most of them were from the town and were only there cos they didnt want to do french or biology. I only found out about this when I handed the folder up. The teacher never said a word about it to us, and if I had known all I had to do was take out the phone and take a few pics when I out working! Would I lose many marks?

Lcstudent2013

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Had a class of similar size but most of them were from the town and were only there cos they didnt want to do french or biology. I only found out about this when I handed the folder up. The teacher never said a word about it to us, and if I had known all I had to do was take out the phone and take a few pics when I out working! Would I lose many marks?

You would of lost no marks but it's more interesting for the examiner to see you in pictures. There's no marks in the marking scheme for personal pictures

200c200c

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Had a class of similar size but most of them were from the town and were only there cos they didnt want to do french or biology. I only found out about this when I handed the folder up. The teacher never said a word about it to us, and if I had known all I had to do was take out the phone and take a few pics when I out working! Would I lose many marks?

Maybe a few, depends on the examiner, but they usually look to make sure its authentic and photos of your own personal experience would show this !

Daniel7740

Would have been no effort at all for me to get pictures so its a missed opportunity. I'd imagine examiners like to give marks to projects that are a bit different or stand out, even though I'm sure there not supposed to.

Wish we started the project in 5th year would have taken the pressure off a lot, trying to do 3 projects at once.

200c200c

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Would have been no effort at all for me to get pictures so its a missed opportunity. I'd imagine examiners like to give marks to projects that are a bit different or stand out, even though I'm sure there not supposed to.

Wish we started the project in 5th year would have taken the pressure off a lot, trying to do 3 projects at once.

Atleast ye only had 3 to do ..We had 8 :L Our teacher was very emmm enthusiastic :L Loved farming and was really interested in our projects !! Most classes we spent watching ear to the ground or other farming programmes :L He was a legend though

woopah92

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Would have been no effort at all for me to get pictures so its a missed opportunity. I'd imagine examiners like to give marks to projects that are a bit different or stand out, even though I'm sure there not supposed to.

Wish we started the project in 5th year would have taken the pressure off a lot, trying to do 3 projects at once.

We were told about it the 1st day of 5th year. I think that's kinda unfair your teacher didn't go over what you needed in it. Two weeks before the due date, our teacher even did mock oral exams with us about the project.

200c200c

woopah92 wrote: »

We were told about it the 1st day of 5th year. I think that's kinda unfair your teacher didn't go over what you needed in it. Two weeks before the due date, our teacher even did mock oral exams with us about the project.

Same as ! We were brought in 1 by 1 and he did exactly what the examiner did with us

Daniel7740

200c200c wrote: »

Atleast ye only had 3 to do ..We had 8 :L Our teacher was very emmm enthusiastic :L Loved farming and was really interested in our projects !! Most classes we spent watching ear to the ground or other farming programmes :L He was a legend though

Sounds like a grand class to be in haha. 8 projects?!

Daniel7740

She was decent at the theory end and went through all the stuff before the examiner came, but for the folder part she just kind of expected us to know what to put in, didn't help us at all with it.
There was only about 5 real culchies and farmers in a class of 21, and she loved us but had no time for the townies at all but then again they had no time for the subject.

200c200c

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Sounds like a grand class to be in haha. 8 projects?!

Yeah 8 it was a lot of work but was well worth it We had a farm diary(Most peoples were 2 full A4 copies!!) , Grassland, Fodder beat, safety project, ecology project, experiment copy, farm map and a project on a visit to either mountbellew agri college or gurteen (some people did both-they had 9 projects ) !! Crazy , time-consuming stuff :P

Daniel7740

200c200c wrote: »

Yeah 8 it was a lot of work but was well worth it We had a farm diary(Most peoples were 2 full A4 copies!!) , Grassland, Fodder beat, safety project, ecology project, experiment copy, farm map and a project on a visit to either mountbellew agri college or gurteen (some people did both-they had 9 projects ) !! Crazy , time-consuming stuff :P

Actually wouldn't have minded being in that class, ag science was the only subject that I really actually liked.

Daniel7740

Any one on here do agricultural economics ?? Seen as less than 100 people do it every year

woopah92

200c200c wrote: »

Yeah 8 it was a lot of work but was well worth it We had a farm diary(Most peoples were 2 full A4 copies!!) , Grassland, Fodder beat, safety project, ecology project, experiment copy, farm map and a project on a visit to either mountbellew agri college or gurteen (some people did both-they had 9 projects ) !! Crazy , time-consuming stuff :P

That's not 8 projects, it's just 8 parts of one project.

We were made do;

2 animal enterprises
1 root crop
1 fodder crop
Grassland
Ecology
2 farm visits (Kildalton and Gurteen)
Experiements
Farm plan/Map
Year long farm diary
And one special interest project!