Xbox One Price and Availability

SgtBob

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/microsoft-xbox-one-price-availability/

Out in November.

$499 in the US
€499 in the EU... wait wut??

Thats about €120 more.. wow... Always preferred the Xbox, but will have to see what the PS4 is gonna be going for. That's a bit of a kick in the face.

F1ngers

SgtBob wrote: »

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/microsoft-xbox-one-price-availability/

Out in November.

$499 in the US
€499 in the EU... wait wut??

Thats about €120 more.. wow... Always preferred the Xbox, but will have to see what the PS4 is gonna be going for. That's a bit of a kick in the face.

You forgot to add sales tax to the US version - they never include tax in US pricing as different states have different taxes.

SgtBob

F1ngers wrote: »

You forgot to add sales tax to the US version - they never include tax in US pricing as different states have different taxes.

True, but as far as I know the highest sales tax in the US is about 10 percent.

So $499 + ~ $50 = $549 = ~ €415

the groutch

any news on the price of the "New" Xbox 360?

Gran Hermano

I've stuck in a preorder on Amazon UK. They are doing the usual price promise on it.

RobertFoster

SgtBob wrote: »

True, but as far as I know the highest sales tax in the US is about 10 percent.

So $499 + ~ $50 = $549 = ~ €415

You're doing it the wrong way round, no? Instead of adding US tax, take off Irish VAT.

$499 is excluding tax, €499 without tax (23% VAT) is €405.69, which is $537.97 according to XE.com

Compared to the Sterling price, £429 (£357.50 ex 20% VAT), which works out at $557, we're getting a slightly better deal. That said, I seem to recall that we've charged €10-€20 extra per console compared to others in the eurozone in the past, probably because stock was coming from UK stores, or our VAT is higher.

SgtBob

Maybe you are right, but it still seems a bit nuts.

ShiverinEskimo

RobertFoster wrote: »

You're doing it the wrong way round, no? Instead of adding US tax, take off Irish VAT.

$499 is excluding tax, €499 without tax (23% VAT) is €405.69, which is $537.97 according to XE.com

Compared to the Sterling price, £429 (£357.50 ex 20% VAT), which works out at $557, we're getting a slightly better deal. That said, I seem to recall that we've charged €10-€20 extra per console compared to others in the eurozone in the past, probably because stock was coming from UK stores, or our VAT is higher.

He did it the right way.

The end consumer will walk out of a US store having paid the equivalent of 415 euro while we'll be walking home 499 euro lighter.

Unless you can avoid paying the VAT there's no point working it out without it.

Captain Chaos

A new low for achievements, you get one for pre ordering the Xone.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15193-E3-2013--Xbone-Day-One-Edition-Offers-Exclusive-Content-and-a-Special-Achievement.html

RobertFoster

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

He did it the right way.

The end consumer will walk out of a US store having paid the equivalent of 415 euro while we'll be walking home 499 euro lighter.

Unless you can avoid paying the VAT there's no point working it out without it.

Fair enough. But that's more of a tax issue than a Microsoft issue. It's rare that a US company would take a hit trying to achieve price parity in a foreign market. If we were charged €415 instead, MS would get ~$50 less per console from us than they'd get from a US console sale. Everyone, bar Nintendo, make a loss on hardware, so would it be even worth their while to sell here at that point?

That said, the Xbox One costing €500 sucks Nothing about it has really caught my attention yet, so it'll be wait and see for me rather than day one purchase.

erkifino

Captain Chaos wrote: »

A new low for achievements, you get one for pre ordering the Xone.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15193-E3-2013--Xbone-Day-One-Edition-Offers-Exclusive-Content-and-a-Special-Achievement.html

On this information (I'm pretty sure I'm being very optimistic)

Commemorative Day One Achievement
Exclusive Ryse: Son of Rome multiplayer map and sword with bonus attributes
Four cars tuned to the top of their class for Forza Motorsport 5
Exclusive sporting equipment for use in Kinect Sports Rivals
Exclusive Dead Rising 3 Frank West and Chuck Greene Tribute Packs with bonus attributes

What are the odds of having the aforementioned games preloaded? I mean who wants a heap of DLC that you don't have games for?!

ShaneU

erkifino wrote: »

On this information (I'm pretty sure I'm being very optimistic)



What are the odds of having the aforementioned games preloaded? I mean who wants a heap of DLC that you don't have games for?!

zero, maybe the demos.

erkifino

ShaneU wrote: »

zero, maybe the demos.

Yeah... I know... I can dream though...

Captain Chaos

Amazon are quick. They already have the price of the XBone listed at £429 from their placeholder price of £699. They have dropped the prices of the next gen games down from £69.99 too, thankfully

firestarter51

Anyone know where I can pre order the Xbox one without paying the full amount, amazon and GameStop want full payment

Nyum Nyum

firestarter51 wrote: »

Anyone know where I can pre order the Xbox one without paying the full amount, amazon and GameStop want full payment

You don't pay a penny to Amazon until it's released.

firestarter51

Nyum Nyum wrote: »

You don't pay a penny to Amazon until it's released.

Ok I will try again, it came up as a total on checkout, I didn't proceed in case my card got hit

Nyum Nyum

You'll be fine

The help section says: "Amazon.co.uk often offers items for sale before release. If an item hasn't been released yet you'll be able to see the expected release date on the item's Product Detail page.

You can place an order for one of these items in the same way as you'd order anything else. We won't charge your credit or debit card until we dispatch the order."

halolma

Gamestop.ie are taking pre-orders... they will only charge €20 for your pre-order, then you pay off the rest etc..

the groutch

and they get 6 months interest on all those €20s

7ofBrian

halolma wrote: »

Gamestop.ie are taking pre-orders... they will only charge €20 for your pre-order, then you pay off the rest etc..

Just hope they haven't gone the way of hmv or game by the time it's released...

quinnd6

Are you people serious about preordering the xbox one?
Are you aware of the restrictions on lending games and the fact that after 24 hours of being disconnected from the internet that the console won't play any of your games?
Just as an example if you bring it on holidays to somewhere and you haven't broadband connected you're not going to be able to play it.
I can't understand why anyone would want that.
Oh yeah it's also going to be region locked so no playing imported games either.

ShiverinEskimo

quinnd6 wrote: »

Are you people serious about preordering the xbox one?
Are you aware of the restrictions on lending games and the fact that after 24 hours of being disconnected from the internet that the console won't play any of your games?
Just as an example if you bring it on holidays to somewhere and you haven't broadband connected you're not going to be able to play it.
I can't understand why anyone would want that.
Oh yeah it's also going to be region locked so no playing imported games either.

Really?! Holy crap!

zero19

I keep seeing that over and over, what if I bring my console on holidays. Who the fcuk does that?

firestarter51

only a low connection speed required so if you need to bring it on holiday you can surely teether from a smart phone, the lending games thing wont effect me once i have call of duty and ryse that will keep me going for a year

Varik

People should not be buying this off amazon or any other UK site, you'll get charged the higher sterling price (unlikely to be that much of a discount to counter this) and then for most sites they'll add the extra Irish vat (20% for UK 23% for Ireland so 3% extra on top).

The same goes for the french or german sites, while €499 is the price for countries with EUro that includes the varying vat rates, France has 19.6% vat and pay €499 for the One while Ireland has 23% and still pays €499. If you order from say the German (19%) or French (19.6%) sites you'll be charged the same Euro price and then they'll add on the extra vat.

Limerick Dude

quinnd6 wrote: »

Are you people serious about preordering the xbox one?
Are you aware of the restrictions on lending games and the fact that after 24 hours of being disconnected from the internet that the console won't play any of your games?
Just as an example if you bring it on holidays to somewhere and you haven't broadband connected you're not going to be able to play it.
I can't understand why anyone would want that.
Oh yeah it's also going to be region locked so no playing imported games either.

I'm going to buy 2 just to annoy you.

dbloke

You can pre-order direct from the microsoftstore.com website.

Log in with your Live id and make sure to change region settings right down at bottom left to Ireland - English to get price in Euros.

chiefohara05

Why are people pre-ordering a console straight away?

I always wait 6 months to see how the console wars fare out and then pick what i see as the winner.

I WAS considering buying the xbox one at launch if it was backwards compatible but it isn't.

If my library of games is limited to the 360, then ill see who does the best deal for the next gen

Captain Chaos

chiefohara05 wrote: »

Why are people pre-ordering a console straight away?

There is the whole experience of it all. Getting something new, exploring a new gaming eco system for the first time and everyone around is in the same boat and you can't go online looking for guide and tips, it's great.

I love it. I only ever got one console at launch before and can't wait to do it again (won't be with the XBO mind). I never limit myself to one console so I don't care about a "winner". I just want as much gaming as possible,

wush06

Reaction says it all from the Crowds.

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/e3-gamers-taken-aback-as-microsoft-reveals-500-price-tag-for-new-xbox-one-console-29336063.html

quinnd6

Limerick Dude wrote: »

I'm going to buy 2 just to annoy you.

Do whatever you want I don't mind just warning people.
You'd be wasting a grand.

chiefohara05

Captain Chaos wrote: »

There is the whole experience of it all. Getting something new, exploring a new gaming eco system for the first time and everyone around is in the same boat and you can't go online looking for guide and tips, it's great.

I love it. I only ever got one console at launch before and can't wait to do it again (won't be with the XBO mind). I never limit myself to one console so I don't care about a "winner". I just want as much gaming as possible,

Fair enough, i just remember the Jaguar and the Dreamcast falling short, but if you are buying multiple consoles then fair enough

Chances are none of them will fail anyway, Xbox one pre-orders are apparently gone already

NORTH1

zero19 wrote: »

I keep seeing that over and over, what if I bring my console on holidays. Who the fcuk does that?

I can only assume from your comment you don't have a family, as an example I go with my kids to the west coast a couple of times a year, where I have the use of a house. We spend most of the days when the weather is good out and about sight seeing.

Now, when the weather is bad or most evenings, the 360 is a valuable tool keeping the kids occupied and there has been great fun had when cousin call over playing Dance central. This place is so far west there is no 3g signal, and if you play around with the aerial, you can get rte1 in a snow storm.

So when you have a family and you holiday in Ireland's more beautiful counties the xbox one really is not a one device that can be used.

I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion on this point.

Gran Hermano

Email from Amazon yesterday:

We have upgraded your pre-order for the Xbox One: Standard Edition to the Xbox One: Day One Edition console with commemorative controller at no extra cost.

the groutch

having a "Day One Edition" reeks of desperation from Microsoft.

2Mad2BeMad

pre ordered the xbone cant wait

to be fair 500e is ALOT but i was expecting it
but i didnt think for a second the ps4 would be cheaper, if anything i thought it would be 100e more expensive haha

but i dont mind , xbox one is just my preference, has everything il need
just need to see how much the games are going to cost now dont fancy giving 100e for 1 game :L

ShiverinEskimo

the groutch wrote: »

having a "Day One Edition" reeks of desperation from Microsoft.

I guess Sony are desperate too so:

halolma

Gamestop now have Xbox One at €499.99

no more deposits of €20.... I know you get order them from Microsoft Store and they will deliver.

They are based in Sandyford if anyone is interested.

halolma

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

I guess Sony are desperate too so:

Don't forget PS4 owners.... You will be paying for the privilege of online multiplayer gaming!

NORTH1

halolma wrote: »

Don't forget PS4 owners.... You will be paying for the privilege of online multiplayer gaming!

You say that like it would be something new, but xbox players that are switching over have always had to pay for that privilege, and now they won't be treated like criminals in a prison locked down system.

Some people need get adult advise on basic consumer rights before spending their parents hard ended money,, and signing up to a draconian anti consumer system .

This advise is from a life long Microsoft fan, and I am sick that Microsoft are forcing me to change....

My only hope is that if enough of us hold out, they can change the software system in the console, and I can become a fan again.

halolma

NORTH1 wrote: »

You say that like it would be something new, but xbox players that are switching over have always had to pay for that privilege, and now they won't be treated like criminals in a prison locked down system.

Some people need get adult advise on basic consumer rights before spending their parents hard ended money,, and signing up to a draconian anti consumer system .

This advise is from a life long Microsoft fan, and I am sick that Microsoft are forcing me to change....

My only hope is that if enough of us hold out, they can change the software system in the console, and I can become a fan again.

Microsoft are not forcing you to change.. They are not forcing you to buy the XB1 either. What is wrong with your 360

There is nothing wrong with the policies that they have in place, and they are subject to change. The only thing they MAY change is the check in. Other than that.. nothing, no.

If there was no used games market, more developers/publishers would have more money to put back into games... The 30 day rule is how it works[search for it to understand]you do know that it takes a couple of million to create a game, not just a hundred ?

or did you think they make games with sticky-back plastic and pipe cleaners.

Microsoft is changing the way you play your games, and its for the best... The reason why they didn't go full digital this time, is due to the fact that **** head companies like Smyths/Gamestop etc.. would complain and bitch about not making money from used games as since thats where most of their sales would be, especially Gamestop. Microsoft had to find a common ground that would please publishers and gamers.. Can't have it both ways...

Cliffy B has even came out and said such... if you don't know who he is GOOGLE him!!

NORTH1

halolma wrote: »

Microsoft are not forcing you to change.. They are not forcing you to buy the XB1 either. What is wrong with your 360

There is nothing wrong with the policies that they have in place, and they are subject to change. The only thing they MAY change is the check in. Other than that.. nothing, no.

If there was no used games market, more developers/publishers would have more money to put back into games... The 30 day rule is how it works[search for it to understand]you do know that it takes a couple of million to create a game, not just a hundred ?

or did you think they make games with sticky-back plastic and pipe cleaners.

Microsoft is changing the way you play your games, and its for the best... The reason why they didn't go full digital this time, is due to the fact that **** head companies like Smyths/Gamestop etc.. would complain and bitch about not making money from used games as since thats where most of their sales would be, especially Gamestop. Microsoft had to find a common ground that would please publishers and gamers.. Can't have it both ways...

Cliffy B has even came out and said such... if you don't know who he is GOOGLE him!!

Like your CEOs, you seem to have no understanding of your consumer base, all I am reading from the Microsoft side is pure arrogance, and contempt for their loyal costumers. I've seen and experienced this attitude in the past.

And your right at the moment there is no good reason for me to change from my 360, but I don't think that is what this launch was suppose to be about.......

halolma

NORTH1 wrote: »

Like your CEOs, you seem have no understanding of your consumer base, all I am reading from the Microsoft side is pure arrogance, and contempt for there loyal costumers. I've seen and experienced this attitude in the past.

And your right at the moment there is no good reason for me to change from my 360, but I don't think that is what this launch was suppose to be about.......

Sure okay.. You are right...

Let them create a new Xbox, one where people can hack, modify and download illegal copies of games.

Let people modify their consoles in anyway they choose, so they can ruin other peoples online enjoyment.

Sure **** the publishers/developers that put time and money into games that you enjoy.. Sure its there own stupid fault for making games in the first place! You didn't ask them to make the games the way they did!

**** 'em all!!

Captain Chaos

halolma wrote: »

Don't forget PS4 owners.... You will be paying for the privilege of online multiplayer gaming!

Yep, they will but they will also get a few €100 worth of free games during the year included with that and discounts on digital downloads. MS don't offer that. MS give 5 year old games for free now while some of the ones on PSN are only 6 months old.

NORTH1

halolma wrote: »

Sure okay.. You are right...

Let them create a new Xbox, one where people can hack, modify and download illegal copies of games.

Let people modify their consoles in anyway they choose, so they can ruin other peoples online enjoyment.

Sure **** the publishers/developers that put time and money into games that you enjoy.. Sure its there own stupid fault for making games in the first place! You didn't ask them to make the games the way they did!

**** 'em all!!

Well that escalated quickly!

DARK-KNIGHT

halolma wrote: »

Sure okay.. You are right...

Let them create a new Xbox, one where people can hack, modify and download illegal copies of games.

Let people modify their consoles in anyway they choose, so they can ruin other peoples online enjoyment.

Sure **** the publishers/developers that put time and money into games that you enjoy.. Sure its there own stupid fault for making games in the first place! You didn't ask them to make the games the way they did!

**** 'em all!!

01 208 3263 call this number... and talk to joe.....

NORTH1

I took halolma's advice and googled Cliffy B, and this is the first article I found.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Cliffy-B-Supports-Xbox-One-Killing-Used-Games-Rentals-Lending-56699.html

Microsoft have have misjudged this so badly, someone needs to get ths chop.....

TheBuck

zero19 wrote: »

I keep seeing that over and over, what if I bring my console on holidays. Who the fcuk does that?

Exactly!! The thing is a block and christ knows how much it weighs! It sits in your living room forever and not for mobile gaming.

TheBuck

NORTH1 wrote: »

I can only assume from your comment you don't have a family, as an example I go with my kids to the west coast a couple of times a year, where I have the use of a house. We spend most of the days when the weather is good out and about sight seeing.

Now, when the weather is bad or most evenings, the 360 is a valuable tool keeping the kids occupied and there has been great fun had when cousin call over playing Dance central. This place is so far west there is no 3g signal, and if you play around with the aerial, you can get rte1 in a snow storm.

So when you have a family and you holiday in Ireland's more beautiful counties the xbox one really is not a one device that can be used.

I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion on this point.

Massive thing to be carrying around might be better off with a Wii Id say.

Rezident

I'm very surprised at the significant price premium over the Playstation. I think it's safe to say it's not looking good for Microsoft at this stage.