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What's new in OS X Mavericks

  • 10-06-2013 5:25pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Tabbed Finder
    Tagging in the finder/iCloud
    Multiple Displays - multi-screen menus/dock. Independent panning. Airplay attached TV acts as a separate display. Multiple full-screen apps.
    Enhanced memory management and processor utilisation.
    Faster/smoother safari, improved bookmarks, reading lists and shared links. Continuous scrolling through items in reader.
    iCLoud Keychain - for website logins, credit card details synched across devices.
    Tweet/manage mail from notification center. iOS notifcations can appear on your mac.
    Background app updates.
    Apple Maps for Mac (including flyover). Push journey routing info/directions from your Mac straight to your iPhone.
    iBooks for the Mac (finally).
    Flatter looking design for calendar, additional features like calculated travel time.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Developer preview available today, released to the public in the Autumn.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    MacBook Air based on Haswell processor. Shipping from today. Same design as previous models.

    11" Macbook air battery life goes from 5 hrs to 9 hrs. 13" goes to 11 hours!
    802.11ac WiFi.

    New Airport Base Stations, new designs.

    Mac Pro - Sneak Peek.
    Physically, barrel design, black gloss finish (half the height of previous Mac Pro. Intel Xeon (upto 12 cores), PCI Express, 1866 ECC DDR3 memory. PCIe flash storage. External expansion via chassis and thunderbolt 2, 6 devices per thunderbolt 2 port. 6 Firewire ports. Dual graphics GPU's - AMD FirePro. Supports 3 4k displays. Coming later this year, assembled in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭calabi yau


    no haswell chip in the macbook pro retina, that crazy mutha fuggin shiii


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    iWorks for iCloud - Pages, Numbers and Keynote. Full document creation/editing in a browser. MS office compatibility.

    Works on PC and Mac, IE, Safari and Chrome available for developers today. General release later this year.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    calabi yau wrote: »
    no haswell chip in the macbook pro retina, that crazy mutha fuggin shiii

    They haven't mentioned the MacBook Pro unless I missed something.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    iOS7 new user interface announced. "The biggest change to iOS since the iPhone".

    Much less clutter, airdrop for iOS..

    Looks incredible.

    New flatter icons.
    Move the screen to see behind the icons.

    Control center for quick access to wifi/bluetooth /brightness/flashlight!!
    Multi-tasking for all Apps. Double click to move between thumbnails of running apps.
    Improved safari
    Airdrop for iOS
    Camera - video, normal camera, square photo, panoramic. Fliters included.
    Photos App - automatically organised into moments/collections/years. Sharing with AirDrop, twitter, Facebook, iCloud.
    Siri - enhanced user interface. New voices (female and male). Siri can control more Apps/settings, twitter, wikipedia, bing search!!
    iOS in the car - calls, messages, music, maps all eyes-free via Siri.
    App Store - Apps for specific age ranges. Apps near me (most popular for your current location). Automatic background updates.
    Music App - iTunes Radio. Create and share your own radio stations. Integrates with Apple TV- free with Ads, no ads for iTunes match customers. Starting in the US, more countries to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    12 core mac pro starting at 3700$... is that ridiculously cheaper than the higher specced ones before or have I just not paid attention in 5 years? I'm sure it's still 20 grand to max out but that's actually a reasonable price for an editing rig... if you need prores and such...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    iOS 7 Beta available today for iPhone, iPad Beta in a few weeks.

    Full release in the Autumn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Graham wrote: »
    MacBook Air based on Haswell processor. Shipping from today. Same design as previous models.

    11" Macbook air battery life goes from 5 hrs to 9 hrs. 13" goes to 11 hours!
    802.11ac WiFi.

    New Airport Base Stations, new designs.

    Mac Pro - Sneak Peek.
    Physically, barrel design, black gloss finish (half the height of previous Mac Pro. Intel Xeon (upto 12 cores), PCI Express, 1866 ECC DDR3 memory. PCIe flash storage. External expansion via chassis and thunderbolt 2, 6 devices per thunderbolt 2 port. 6 Firewire ports. Dual graphics GPU's - AMD FirePro. Supports 3 4k displays. Coming later this year, assembled in the US.

    Macbook Air 11"

    Irish Price = €1,049 inc. VAT => €853 ex. VAT

    US Price = €999 ex. VAT

    With today's exchange rates, our ex-VAT price works out at about $1,129 so about $130 or about 13% more.

    Probably par for the course for buying electronic goods in Ireland vs. US but there's always a moan on here about people comparing the Irish price with the American one which isn't comparing like with like as there's no VAT listed in the American price. Still very expensive but it's expensive over there too.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Have the prices changed Jack? I can't remember what they were before the keynote. I suspect they're the same with a slight spec bump.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Graham wrote: »
    Have the prices changed Jack? I can't remember what they were before the keynote. I suspect they're the same with a slight spec bump.

    I can't remember for sure but I think the price is the same over here as it was yesterday. I don't know about in America though. Refurb Macbook Airs (old models) seem to have dropped another €70 though if anyone was interested in going down that route.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Irish prices dropped along with US prices.

    Old prices:

    11-inch low - €1,049.00
    11-inch high - €1,149.00
    13-inch low - €1,249.00
    13-inch high - €1,449.00

    New prices:

    11-inch low - €1,049.00
    11-inch high - €1,249.00
    13-inch low - €1,149.00
    13-inch high - €1,349.00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Is it a bit mad to get an 11" Air when I have a 15" Proi have no intention of getting rid of?

    I'm pretty impressed by what Apple have shown today. Apart from the obvious OS X improvements they've added OpenGL 4 support which means I can support that in my cross platform game instead of 3.2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭calabi yau


    Is it a bit mad to get an 11" Air when I have a 15" Proi have no intention of getting rid of?

    I'm pretty impressed by what Apple have shown today. Apart from the obvious OS X improvements they've added OpenGL 4 support which means I can support that in my cross platform game instead of 3.2

    Well I suppose the air gives you great portability, kind of like a more powerful iPad with keyboard. I don't like the tablet format, never did, so an ultra portable laptop is the way to go. If you can afford it and you genuinely will use it, then it could be a great purchase. My fear would be that the 15inch would become redundant.

    I have a 13" MacBook pro so that's the perfect cross device for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭fjon


    Don't suppose anyone could hazard a guess as to whether we'll be seeing Haswell Macbook Pros any time soon?
    Is this the type of update Apple will want to save for a major event, or would they do a silent update?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    My HD partition is waiting patiently

    2vd0kd4.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    calabi yau wrote: »
    Well I suppose the air gives you great portability, kind of like a more powerful iPad with keyboard. I don't like the tablet format, never did, so an ultra portable laptop is the way to go. If you can afford it and you genuinely will use it, then it could be a great purchase. My fear would be that the 15inch would become redundant.

    I have a 13" MacBook pro so that's the perfect cross device for me.

    I can afford it but I do think the 15" machine would become redundant, or at least spend the rest of it's life connected to an external display on my desk.

    I think I'll hold off for now and see how I feel about it in a few months.

    I'm torn, because I need a machine with a large screen and a bit of grunt for development but also need something a bit more portable.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    My imac is six years old & starting to creak a little. I'm hoping it'll hold up to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    For any of you multi-display users out there, don't get too excited.. Once again they've butchered it


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    For any of you multi-display users out there, don't get too excited.. Once again they've butchered it

    Why?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Why?

    +1

    Would also be interested in knowing why before I butcher my setup here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    Why?

    I guess it's just me coming from current setup where I have 3 screens where they're all windowed (no 'fullscreen' apps, just windows that take up the whole screen).. putting apps in fullscreen stops that screen from being used for dragging other windows into it (the window just won't go into that screen -- I think it'd be better if that screen's space reverted to the 'desktop' space)

    In the 'Desktop' space in each screen (or when you put the window to fill the screen instead of the fullscreen app mode), a greyed-out menubar appears at the top of each screen (the screen containing the active window has a non-greyed out menubar). I can't see any option to disable these multiple menubars.

    I do like how each screen has independent control of it's own spaces/fullscreen apps though, but for example if you have a fullscreen app in each screen, and you click the 'displays' preferences in System Prefs, each screen moves to the 'desktop' space to show you the window that System Prefs brings up, and that can be annoying.


    Basically I'd like to see more options regarding this, for example being able to turn off the extra menubars would be awesome (there may already be these options but I looked around for a good 45 mins)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    That sounds like an improvement to me, I won't need secondbar to replicate my menus.

    Any changes to the display sound? I have iMac +1 display and at the moment I have to choose sound out of one or the other (not both without hacking around).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    I think the new multiple screen stuff has fixed my one last major bugbear with OS X. Far from butchering at all.

    I can see what taylorconor95 means about not being able to drag a window to another display if a fullscreen app owns it, but it's much easier to just do that from mission control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    I think the new multiple screen stuff has fixed my one last major bugbear with OS X. Far from butchering at all.

    I can see what taylorconor95 means about not being able to drag a window to another display if a fullscreen app owns it, but it's much easier to just do that from mission control.

    It is an improvement I guess, just not what I was looking for personally..

    I don't have displays with sound so I can't answer the other question..

    And yeah, if you use multiple menubars then it's great, but I haven't been doing that and there's no way of turning it off (even just for the sake of an extra 20px at the top of each screen)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    I definitely think you're in the minority. The old way enchanced the disconnect between menu bar and window. Worked great for a single screen and nothing else.

    One of your screens is driven by a USB thingy that's quite low res if I remember correctly, so I can imagine it's a pain.

    On a 27" screen it is a welcome addition, with the laptop screen being used for fullscreened stuff without turning the main screen into a 1440p Linen screen saver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    I definitely think you're in the minority. The old way enchanced the disconnect between menu bar and window. Worked great for a single screen and nothing else.

    One of your screens is driven by a USB thingy that's quite low res if I remember correctly, so I can imagine it's a pain.

    On a 27" screen it is a welcome addition, with the laptop screen being used for fullscreened stuff without turning the main screen into a 1440p Linen screen saver.

    Woah you have an amazing memory! My main display is 24" dell 1080p, then my 15" mac and another monitor (USB) are on either side, both the same res.

    I guess I just got used to using the menubar on the main display for windows in my other displays (although I rarely use the menu bar, just use keyboard shortcuts all the time). But I'll get used to this I'm sure, I just wish it was more customisable, but it's just classic Apple, their way and their way only

    I also noticed my USB monitor was having EXTREME lag on 10.9, I'm talking 10fps... I just hope that it's a DisplayLink driver issue and not something that can't be fixed


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Seems like a big improvement to me as well. I may actually start using my external display again.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    I would imagine they're nudging users gently towards their own Thunderbolt Displays. Multiple 27" monitors with only a single menu bar on one of them is a real pain.

    I wonder how it works now with software like Dreamweaver where notifications pop-up on the primary display regardless of which screen the app is actually on. Was one of the main reasons I was glad to see the back of Dreamweaver, it's probably saving several kilometres of trackpad motion per month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    I haven't tested the notification popup thing. Hopefully on the screen that has the focused application.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Well just managed to answer another question I had.

    If you have a Thunderbolt display you can still only output the sound from that OR your iMac, not both.


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