Gardai report more money missing..

carzony

This is really taking the piss? 3rd time and all big amounts. They reckon 27,000 this time, Nice payday :D


http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fthird-sum-of-money-goes-missing-from-a-dublin-garda-premises-942569-Jun2013%2F&ei=v9yzUeXWI-qM7QaajIGIDA&usg=AFQjCNFu8Kb4BwCgrj1E-rrrkZU87cKYfg&sig2=rzUcx46ljYluSj12OVswvg

Festy

Quick,someone call the guards...Oh wait...

charlemont

They are something else.

TheLastMohican

charlemont wrote: »

They are something else.

Ireland's Finest, Thin Blue Line etc.

grizzly

Do you think it could be due to the pay cuts? Not an excuse, but maybe a reason this keeps happening.

Peregrine

grizzly wrote: »

Do you think it could be due to the pay cuts? Not an excuse, but maybe a reason this keeps happening.

I knew we could blame this on the recession somehow

B.A._Baracus

Que someone saying that's the guards for you.
Que someone getting back in response saying how the guards are such morally upstanding people.

Reality is members of the Gardai are just regular people.... some decent, some pricks. Is it shocking that this money went missing? hell no. Let's just call a spade a spade here.

Hootanany

carzony wrote: »

This is really taking the piss? 3rd time and all big amounts. They reckon 27,000 this time, Nice payday :D


http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fthird-sum-of-money-goes-missing-from-a-dublin-garda-premises-942569-Jun2013%2F&ei=v9yzUeXWI-qM7QaajIGIDA&usg=AFQjCNFu8Kb4BwCgrj1E-rrrkZU87cKYfg&sig2=rzUcx46ljYluSj12OVswvg

I hink they got at your link its all goobledegook.

Karl Stein

We know about it.

Celebrate the transparency and let's hope the good cops progress from it.

In many places we would never have even known.

Panthro

Said I to the Duchess one night "Sure fock it, we'll chonce it"
I'd say the same if I seen 27G's sitting in front of me, waiting to be whipped.

hsianloon

You wonder what happens to all that weed worth several hundred thousands euros disappear to after getting confiscated.....

bacon n eggs

Nice little earner

mikehammer67

do we know the 'street value' of the cash yet?

Pappa Charlie

mikehammer67 wrote: »

do we know the 'street value' of the cash yet?

Your street or my street!

PizzamanIRL

It's like the film 'Brooklyn's Finest'

The auld Gardaí need the extra cash to get their house insulated for the newborn.

Pj!

mikehammer67 wrote: »

do we know the 'street value' of the cash yet?

The 27k had a street value of up to 60k.

ChunkyLover_53

Its grand, sure the money is back in the economy now, better than it gathering dust in an evidence room.

It wasn't even given a fair trial, just locked away in a cop shop to rot.

Talib Fiasco

Era, it's probably just out enjoying the sun. It'll be home in a while...

Pappa Charlie

That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples

Birroc

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples

Ah stop, there is corruption in the Gardaí right up to senior levels. The "bad apples" excuse sickens my hole. Same bull with the Catholic Church. If there are "bad apples" it is up to the organisation in question to root them out, expose them and put processes in place to ensure there are less bad apples in the future. However the Gardaí (and the Church) when exposed to criticism or corruption accusations circle the wagons, close up shop, hide information (even from their own ombudsman) and protect each other to the bitter end. This often means attacking the people questioning their actions. For example - Claire Daly a TD was arrested and handcuffed and placed in a cell for nothing.

I think the Gardaí force is corrupt and needs to be reformed. We need a lot more transparency. They are becoming a law to themselves.

Cypher_sounds

I wonder who copped it.

Pj!

Birroc wrote: »

I think the Gardaí force is corrupt and needs to be reformed. We need a lot more transparency. They are becoming a law to themselves.

How do you suggest they recruit over 13,000 Gardai without getting a single individual who might be ever tempted to steal?

cook_my_sock

Pj! wrote: »

How do you suggest they recruit over 13,000 Gardai without getting a single individual who might be ever tempted to steal?

the poster was referring to systematic corruption , not this isolated case

WoollyRedHat

It's not about the money, money, money
We don't need your money, money, money
We just wanna make the world dance
Forget about the price tag

Latchy

'' take the money and run , buy yourself a place in the sun , don't be a fool don't you trust anyone , you gotta learn that lesson my son ''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFl-2h7gcxI

Birroc

Pj! wrote: »

How do you suggest they recruit over 13,000 Gardai without getting a single individual who might be ever tempted to steal?

Simple, change the culture to show accountability. Zero tolerance.
Investigate complaints quickly and ruthlessly. Fire people who have done wrong or cant do their job. Expose and jail those Gardai who broke the law.
This makes sure everyone is aware of the repercussions of crossing the line.
From the top down. The culture among the Gardaí right now stinks and only encourages rule breakers.

Paddy De Plasterer

They will have to put it on Crimeline and ask for public assistance !

Paddy De Plasterer

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples

Its not the few bad apples, the whole barrel is rotten.

mikehammer67

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

They will have to put it on Crimeline and ask for public assistance !

"The search is of a number of units used by gardaí for the storage of investigation exhibits"

lol

i think maybe someone should tell them the money is gone like..................:pac:

Pj!

Birroc wrote: »

Simple, change the culture to show accountability. Zero tolerance.
Investigate complaints quickly and ruthlessly. Fire people who have done wrong or cant do their job. Expose and jail those Gardai who broke the law.
This makes sure everyone is aware of the repercussions of crossing the line.
From the top down. The culture among the Gardaí right now stinks and only encourages rule breakers.

Agree entirely with the bolded part, everyone does. But it will be no surprise to me to see somebody exposed for the theft, provided that somebody is discovered.
They obviously need to change the current system for storing money.

I wouldn't agree that the current culture encourages rule breakers.

Oranage2

Pj! wrote: »

Agree entirely with the bolded part, everyone does. But it will be no surprise to me to see somebody exposed for the theft, provided that somebody is discovered.
They obviously need to change the current system for storing money.

I wouldn't agree that the current culture encourages rule breakers.

They certainly aren't being discouraging it, the current garda culture is 'I was looking the other way' or keep it quiet as we've seen in recent court cases, you could only imagine the treatment a garda would get if he was to do the right thing and report a rogue colleague which in a way does encourage rule breaking because they know they can get away with it.

charlemont

Some folk sure have the blinkers on in their nice little bubbles. If the well ran dry they would be on telling us no there is still plenty of water left, Dive in...

Kinzig

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

Its not the few bad apples, the whole barrel is rotten.

Correct,, the AGS have always been a totally unfair police force, we see certain issues coming to light like these examples of missing money, guns finding their way back from AGS into the hands of crooks, garda members involved in bomb making in Donegal, people being murdered and garda collusion in the death like the missing postman case..I could go on and on citing examples..but anyone who can see the wood for the trees knows the garda stinks to high heavens and always has done..I feel much more comfortable dealing with the PNSI or british police than the cowboys In Irish policing:rolleyes:

The Maverick

Kinzig wrote: »

Correct,, the AGS have always been a totally unfair police force, we see certain issues coming to light like these examples of missing money, guns finding their way back from AGS into the hands of crooks, garda members involved in bomb making in Donegal, people being murdered and garda collusion in the death like the missing postman case..I could go on and on citing examples..but anyone who can see the wood for the trees knows the garda stinks to high heavens and always has done..I feel much more comfortable dealing with the PNSI or british police than the cowboys In Irish policing:rolleyes:

That happened in 1929, surely you can think of something a bit more relevant off the top of your head.

The PSNI and the British police also have a bit of a checkered history themselves. In fact, I imagine there's not a single police force in the world that doesn't have a history of corruption. That's because the police are just ordinary people; some good, some bad, with most in the middle.As the quote says "we have one big problem in selecting police officers ... we have to recruit from the human race." I'm not saying corruption should be allowed flourish but making out that it is rampant in the guards compared to other forces is totally laughable.

Kinzig

The Maverick wrote: »

That happened in 1929, surely you can think of something a bit more relevant off the top of your head.

The PSNI and the British police also have a bit of a checkered history themselves. In fact, I imagine there's not a single police force in the world that doesn't have a history of corruption. That's because the police are just ordinary people; some good, some bad, with most in the middle.As the quote says "we have one big problem in selecting police officers ... we have to recruit from the human race." I'm not saying corruption should be allowed flourish but making out that it is rampant in the guards compared to other forces is totally laughable.

Theres always been corruption in the guards, every business person knows that gardai hate paying for anything thinking that their job gives them the right to freebies..the force stinks and most of them are pig ignorant when dealing with the public into the bargain..look at the case of Richie Barron in Donegal..found lying dead at the side of the road and AGS tried to blame an innocent man for his death ..but the dogs in the street know who killed him:rolleyes:..

The Maverick

Kinzig wrote: »

Theres always been corruption in the guards, every business person knows that gardai hate paying for anything thinking that their job gives them the right to freebies..the force stinks and most of them are pig ignorant when dealing with the public into the bargain..look at the case of Richie Barron in Donegal..found lying dead at the side of the road and AGS tried to blame an innocent man for his death ..but the dogs in the street know who killed him:rolleyes:..

That's my point. No one in their right mind could claim the guards are free from corruption, any job which has power over people will attract corrupt elements. You seem to be of the opinion that the guards are the most corrupt police force in history, which is blatantly untrue.

risteard7

It's just another guard with a gambling addiction.

mikehammer67

risteard7 wrote: »

It's just another guard with a gambling addiction.

they got him?

Pappa Charlie

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

Its not the few bad apples, the whole barrel is rotten.

Especially the ones that dealt with you!!!

goose2005

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

That's life when you recruit from the general public, you will always get a percentage of bad apples

I don't think you understand the "bad apple" metaphor. If there is one bad apple in a barrel of apples, the rot will spread until you have a barrel of worthless mush and have to throw it out. Hence the importance of rooting out the bad apples very quickly.

Paddy De Plasterer

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Especially the ones that dealt with you!!!

you must be a copper.

Pappa Charlie

just a bad apple!

Paddy De Plasterer

i see another copper convicted yesterday for an Insurance scam.

kerry4sam

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

i see another copper convicted yesterday for an Insurance scam.

Yes!

Their is a thread on that Guard right here.

Pappa Charlie

kerry4sam wrote: »

Yes!

Their is a thread on that Guard right here.

Former reserve now full time critic!

kerry4sam

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Former reserve now full time critic!

So here we have someone who alleges in his previous posts to be a full-time serving member of An Garda Síochána taking pot-shots on a public discussion forum.
Interesting development by An Garda Síochána but not surprising though!

Are you speaking on behalf of Garda HQ or even the GRA perhaps?

Many Thanks for your interest though,
kerry4sam

concur4u?

remember me

Paddy De Plasterer

kerry4sam wrote: »

So here we have someone who alleges in his previous posts to be a full-time serving member of An Garda Síochána taking pot-shots on a public discussion forum.
Interesting development by An Garda Síochána but not surprising though!

Are you speaking on behalf of Garda HQ or even the GRA perhaps?

Many Thanks for your interest though,
kerry4sam

a lof the guards have no cop on and in fact are a security risk with leaks, arrogance, petulance,and have no dignity. They even flash their cards to get free in clubs, and avail of free grub at many fast food outlets.

concur4u?

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

a lof the guards have no cop on and in fact are a security risk with leaks, arrogance, petulance,and have no dignity. They even flash their cards to get free in clubs, and avail of free grub at many fast food outlets.

but thats not the worst they do

kerry4sam

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

you must be a copper.

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

just a bad apple!

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Former reserve now full time critic!

kerry4sam wrote: »

So here we have someone who alleges in his previous posts to be a full-time serving member of An Garda Síochána taking pot-shots on a public discussion forum.
Interesting development by An Garda Síochána but not surprising though!

Are you speaking on behalf of Garda HQ or even the GRA perhaps?

Many Thanks for your interest though,
kerry4sam

Paddy De Plasterer wrote: »

a lof the guards have no cop on and in fact are a security risk with leaks, arrogance, petulance,and have no dignity. They even flash their cards to get free in clubs, and avail of free grub at many fast food outlets.

Perhaps, but that Pappa Charlie poster claims to be a full-time serving member of An Garda Síochána with 17years now and has annoyed and angered Garda Reserves with some of his postings over in the ES forum.

I asked maybe they were representing Garda HQ or the GRA; but I forgot that with 17years service , they could be a member of and could well be representing the views of the AGSI on boards.ie.

concur4u?

kerry4sam wrote: »

Perhaps, but that Pappa Charlie poster claims to be a full-time serving member of An Garda Síochána with 17years now and has annoyed and angered Garda Reserves with some of his postings over in the ES forum.

I asked maybe they were representing Garda HQ or the GRA; but I forgot that with 17years service , they could be a member of and could well be representing the views of the AGSI on boards.ie.

or hes a bent one