**HL Irish Paper I - Before / After **

AndreaEgan

Does anyone think bullying is a likely topic? I have major cramming to do for the Irish essay!

yournerd

Doubt it. DO THE DEBATE!

BubblegumBitch

• Ireland Today (As my teacher calls it, the 'Omnibus' Essay) - Crime, Unemployment, Recession, The Gathering, Education System, Health System
  
• Education System
  
• Health System
  
• Crime
  
• Recession
  
• The Gathering
  
• The Media

Am I covered? Note that I am not very good at paper 1 and am relying on my oral, comprehensions and 'Gafa' questions to gain me marks! Looking for a C3 (minimum) / C2 (preferably)

peekachoo

Feeling so laid back about Irish
Approximating I got about 25/40% in the oral, im only gonna learn an ghaeilge, education and media! I'm not counting Irish in my points so I have no problems with making up a half assed essay on the spot

AndreaEgan

yournerd wrote: »

Doubt it. DO THE DEBATE!

What do you reckon is coming up for the debate?

BubblegumBitch wrote: »

• Ireland Today (As my teacher calls it, the 'Omnibus' Essay) - Crime, Unemployment, Recession, The Gathering, Education System, Health System
  
• Education System
  
• Health System
  
• Crime
  
• Recession
  
• The Gathering
  
• The Media

Are those your essay topics? I'd imagine you have covered pretty much everything there! I would love a broad essay as in 'problems in society today', we could literally throw everything in!

cremeeggeater

Still haven't got the knack of studying for the essay, do most people just learn essays off by heart or vocab or what? My brain is just a black hole, refusing to remember anything....

HPMS

I've covered everything bubblegumbitch has + problems on the road, homelessness, bullying and old people. Hoping I'll be covered, but you never know! I would die for an A in irish but it really depends on what my oral mark was :rolleyes:

HPMS

cremeeggeater wrote: »

Still haven't got the knack of studying for the essay, do most people just learn essays off by heart or vocab or what? My brain is just a black hole, refusing to remember anything....

I dont really learn anything, I just remember vocab for each topic, a seanfhocal or two but I never learn essays off by heart, the morning of the exam I'll have a quick glance over the ones I've written up until now.

I would love something easy like: "Na fadhbanna is mó inár sochaí inniu" ... That would be a dream essay!

outnumbered

So this paper approaches.....
Have to learn off my essay (note the singular!)
The thing about this exam is the over abundance of time! It always makes me feel weary. I think once my essay is done I'm gone to study last minute Biology!
Immigration/recession and maybe, depending on how my other Study this weekend, Some Media/youth stuff!

Leaving Cert Student

Does anyone have any irish sample answers for the prose section? I am absolutely screwed for it

outnumbered

BubblegumBitch wrote: »

• Ireland Today (As my teacher calls it, the 'Omnibus' Essay) - Crime, Unemployment, Recession, The Gathering, Education System, Health System
  
• Education System
  
• Health System
  
• Crime
  
• Recession
  
• The Gathering
  
• The Media

Am I covered? Note that I am not very good at paper 1 and am relying on my oral, comprehensions and 'Gafa' questions to gain me marks! Looking for a C3 (minimum) / C2 (preferably)

Christ! most definitely covered!!! I am going for a C too and just learning the Recession/Immigration/Internet +youth
And I am just going to do 2 poems and 1 story!

kevin12345

BubblegumBitch wrote: »

• Ireland Today (As my teacher calls it, the 'Omnibus' Essay) - Crime, Unemployment, Recession, The Gathering, Education System, Health System
  
• Education System
  
• Health System
  
• Crime
  
• Recession
  
• The Gathering
  
• The Media

Am I covered? Note that I am not very good at paper 1 and am relying on my oral, comprehensions and 'Gafa' questions to gain me marks! Looking for a C3 (minimum) / C2 (preferably)

More than covered. Plus, I think Crime and Health System came up last year.

ChromosomeT

hey there i've an irish scéal prepared but i'm not too sure if it would be off high enough standard for an A. I was wondering if anyone would care to read over it and give me some advice?

ChromosomeT

lads I've a scéal done out on the theme of éadochas / díoma etc all along those lines but i'm not sure if it is enough to get a decent high mark. would anyone care to look over it and possibly give me a few pointers?

ray2012

Does anyone have an essay/debate/whatever on the importance of Irish / Media in today's world ? Would really appreciate it! I have one on eisimirce if someone wants to trade. :P

11Charlie11

Is the aural before or after the written?
I have yet to learn an essay!

Leaving Cert Student

11Charlie11 wrote: »

Is the aural before or after the written?
I have yet to learn an essay!

Good q... How will the aural take place in a big hall? surely they wouldnt have several tape recorders going at once?

Slow Show

11Charlie11 wrote: »

Is the aural before or after the written?
I have yet to learn an essay!

Before! Which is REALLY annoying as it starts at 2, about the time that the mass exodus from CSPE begins.

Slow Show

Slow Show wrote: »

Before! Which is REALLY annoying as it starts at 2, about the time that the mass exodus from CSPE begins.

Just put your hand up if you can't hear it.
Tape is the start of Paper 1. I'm hoping for at least 50 in that as I have been getting nearly full marks in all the past ones recently (all the first time I've heard them)
For an essay, I have so much notes on loads of topics that I don't even know where to begin.
I feel my standard of Irish could BS me a C on the essay though hopefully! :cool:

outnumbered

Leaving Cert Student wrote: »

Good q... How will the aural take place in a big hall? surely they wouldnt have several tape recorders going at once?

We have our exams in about 15 different classrooms with only 8 in each!
For the whole leaving like! I'd hate to have it in a hall!

django 123

Are people learning essays off or just writing them in there? Could not be bothered learning anything off unless anything highly specific is predicted in HL? Also just out of curiosity did anybody else's oral examiner tell them their score? I know that they aren't supposed to but mine did

yournerd

Don't be bothered with the Pros and Filiocht, focus on the leamthuisicnt and aiste

Leaving Cert Student

outnumbered wrote: »

We have our exams in about 15 different classrooms with only 8 in each!
For the whole leaving like! I'd hate to have it in a hall!

15 examiners? what a joke to the tax system that is, we have about 150 in one hall and only three examiners

JOS2013

I've got Sport, The economy and Young People done. Will one of them come up somewhere?

HugsiePie

outnumbered wrote: »

So this paper approaches.....
Have to learn off my essay (note the singular!)
The thing about this exam is the over abundance of time! It always makes me feel weary. I think once my essay is done I'm gone to study last minute Biology!
Immigration/recession and maybe, depending on how my other Study this weekend, Some Media/youth stuff!

Our plans are identical!

HugsiePie

outnumbered wrote: »

We have our exams in about 15 different classrooms with only 8 in each!
For the whole leaving like! I'd hate to have it in a hall!

How I would LOVE that, the Leaving cert is the first exam I've taken in a hall since my first year entrance exam

Dropping No Eaves

What is your approach to the aural? I used to listen through once carefully taking in what was going on, then fill in the answers on go 2 and 3 and it was perfect! Now the eejits have cut it to 2 gos, and I'm very worried I'll miss out on loads of answers! I mean, 10% is quite a lot.

Legion.

Try and get the answers both times its played. But instead of writing them in full during the recording, write them short hand and fill them in during the breaks. Only thing I can think of really.

outnumbered

I did a really good oral. I am only looking to pass Irish so if i did the listening, the comprehensions, an essay (i'm learning uneployment/immigration and media/youth), attempted everything else but didn't learn it, There's a god chance of passing isn't there?

Legion.

If you did all of that, and even tried the pros/filiocht questions with whatever Irish you have you'd nearly be closer to a C at least..

outnumbered

Legion. wrote: »

If you did all of that, and even tried the pros/filiocht questions with whatever Irish you have you'd nearly be closer to a C at least..

Great to know! I did that in my mocks without the oral and got 57%!

Legion.

Mhm, if you have a decent standard of Irish and don't mind learning a few phrases off its not hard to get at least a C.

Acciaccatura

Lads, it's Bliain na Gaeilge, don't be surprised if something comes up in the essay on it!

I'm going to blare some Raidió na Gaeltacht in preparation for this listening, hope my family like trad music! :P

AndreaEgan

Acciaccatura wrote: »

Lads, it's Bliain na Gaeilge, don't be surprised if something comes up in the essay on it!/quote]

I have an essay on the future of the Irish language, would that be sufficient for Bliain na Gaeilge?

Acciaccatura

AndreaEgan wrote: »

Acciaccatura wrote: »

Lads, it's Bliain na Gaeilge, don't be surprised if something comes up in the essay on it!/quote]

I have an essay on the future of the Irish language, would that be sufficient for Bliain na Gaeilge?

You could definitely fit it in there, I'm sure It mightn't be specifically about Bliain na Gaeilge, but I'm convinced that Gaeilge will show its face as an aiste/debate title in some form. Same goes for it being the year of An Tóstál, eisimirce should turn up either as well or instead of Gaeilge. If either of them don't come up I will actually go nuts :P

RabbitHearted

i seem to have way more essays done than every one else here, i've 10 titles done(roughly) in total. :P

SeanyboyQPR

If imirce/inimirce comes up can we just adjust our gathering essays?

AndreaEgan

Acciaccatura wrote: »

AndreaEgan wrote: »

You could definitely fit it in there, I'm sure It mightn't be specifically about Bliain na Gaeilge, but I'm convinced that Gaeilge will show its face as an aiste/debate title in some form. Same goes for it being the year of An Tóstál, eisimirce should turn up either as well or instead of Gaeilge. If either of them don't come up I will actually go nuts :P

I'll learn a bit on An Tostal aswel, and Bliain na Gaeilge for me will have to do as An Tostal and Todhchaí na Gaeilge :P I hope Eisimirce appears So will I! I'm banking on Eisimirce or Problems in Ireland today! :O

strawberryowl

yournerd wrote: »

Doubt it. DO THE DEBATE!

I wouldn't suggest doing the debate unless you've gone over it excellently and know they lay-out well.
I mean, I'm from the Gaeltacht, Irish is my first language and I have been debating competitively for 2 years. My Irish teacher is our trainer and she told us not to touch the debate on Paper 1!

yournerd

strawberryowl wrote: »

I wouldn't suggest doing the debate unless you've gone over it excellently and know they lay-out well.
I mean, I'm from the Gaeltacht, Irish is my first language and I have been debating competitively for 2 years. My Irish teacher is our trainer and she told us not to touch the debate on Paper 1!

Why not?

strawberryowl

yournerd wrote: »

Why not?

Apparently it's very difficult to get the correct tone and format/layout right. She also said something about needing the right statistics and just generally needing to know the ins and outs of that type of debate. I didn't question it, I'm focusing on the gearrscéal anyway.

RabbitHearted

I wouldn't be as quick to dismiss the debate, we have a great irish teacher and we've been advised to do either the aiste or debate or the alt nuachta if it fits but I don't see the problem with debates? Our teacher is also in charge of the irish debating team in school and they're forever winning stuff so I'm gonna trust her judgement.

yournerd

Yeah my teacher a top class one and she recommended it

Tommyrawr

Would imirce be a social problem, just per say if an essay on social problems came up?

HPMS

I'm sorry but...I don't understand why we should stay away from the debate? Once you have the intro and conclusion learned off the rest is practically the same as an aiste. You just need to add in the odd "you cannot agree with the opposition...blah blah blah"...

Or am I wrong??

Also, does anyone happen to have nice phrases for the debate? I have the intro and conclusion, it's just the other stuff I'm wondering about. Thanks

ChromosomeT

for the scéal could anyone tell me if this story of mine is at the right standard to get a high mark? especially if Díoma etc comes up.

Ní raibh leoithne gaoithe sa spear nuair a thug me sracfhéachaint amach an fhuinneog trí leath shúil. D’fheach mé ar mo chlog agus bhí sé a cuig a chlog ar mhaidin. Bhí an teach chomh ciúin le luch mar bhí gach duine ina gcoladh go sámh. Ní raibh mé abálta aon rud a dhéiceail ach mo mála mór líonta sa chúinne.Rug me greim fíochmhar ar an mála agus bhí me reidh. Bhí me ar bhuile le momháthair mar dúirt sí liom go raibh sí I ndeireadh na feide liom agus gur fadhb mór me sa chlann.Go tobann, léim me de gheit mar bhí mo dhearthair ó gag stanadh orm. Chuir sé cúpla céist orm faoin áit a riabh mé ag dul. Leath mo shúile le deora agus d’fhág mé slán leis. Ag dul amach an doras ar mo
bharraicíní bhí me ag déanamh iarracht na deora a choimead istigh ach theip orm. Ach ní raibh mé ábalta fanacht sa teach sin a feadh nóimead eile.
Ba shíoraíocht liom féín an turas ó stad an bhus go dtí an bád farantóireachta. Bhí an áit plódaithe le gach cineal duine agus tháinig uaigneas orm ach phioc mé suas mo mhisneach agus chuaigh mé ar bord. Bhí tuirseach an domhain or magus shuigh mé síos chun mo scíth a ligint. Níor thuisce go raibh mé i gcoladh domhain agus bhí mé ag baint taitneamh as an gcathaoir mór compórdach.Sar I bhfad shrioc mé Sasana ach cén áit? Ní riabh fhios agam bhí an oíche ag titim go tapa mar chaith mé an chuid is mó den am ag cuardach lóistín. Bhi me fluich go craiceann, préacht leis an bhfuacht agus bhí easpa airgead orm. Gheal m’aghaidh nuair a thug mé faoi deara fógra mór i bhfuinneog teach tábhairne. Chuigh me isteach lán le gliondar ach d’athraigh me mo phort nuair a chuala me an praghasar oíche amháin.Stop mé I leac dorais den chéad oíche agus bhí me I bponc ceart. Bhí me a crith leis a bhfuacht agus gan amhras ar bith bhí mé scanraithe I mo bheatha. Thosaigh me ag smaoineamh ar mo chlann sa bhaile agus iad ina gcoladh go sámh I leaba tirim. Bhí a lán torann agus deatach timpeall na háite agus níor
mhothaigh me compordach ar chor ar bith.An mhaidin ina dhiaidh sin dhúisigh me le scread coscán. Bhi gach duine ag brostu ar obair agus bhí na
paistí ag dul ar scoil chomh maith. Bhí boladh breán uaim faoin am seo agus chaith mé an lá ar fad ag baint trial as post a fháil ach ar an drochuair theip orm. Tar éis cúpla la ní raibh post ar bith agam agus ní raibh a lán airgead fágtha agam ach oiread. Chaith mé breis is dhá uair a chloig ag stánadh ar an trácht agus pian díochmhar I mo bholg leis an ocras. Tar éis tamaill thus mé faoi deara bean beag aosta ag druidim liom. Thosaigh sí ag caint liom
faoin a saol agus tabhacht an chlann freisin. D’inis mé mo scéal di agus bhí a fhios agam gur duin tuiscineach cliste í. Thug sí comhairle maith do magus tar eis cúpla uair bhí me ar an mbád abhaile.Nuair a shroic me an teach bhí mo dhearthair ó gag súgradh sa ghairdín. Ba bheag nár this sé I laige
nuair a chonaic sé mé. Rith se i mo threo agus thug sé póg mór dom. Bhí faoiseamh an domhain ar mo mháthair ach ag an am chéanna bhí sí ar buile liom. Thug sí íde na muc is na maidrí dom. Gan amhras ar bith chodail mé go sámh an oíche sin.

outnumbered

ChromosomeT wrote: »

for the scéal could anyone tell me if this story of mine is at the right standard to get a high mark? especially if Díoma etc comes up.

Ní raibh leoithne gaoithe sa spear nuair a thug me sracfhéachaint amach an fhuinneog trí leath shúil. D’fheach mé ar mo chlog agus bhí sé a cuig a chlog ar mhaidin. Bhí an teach chomh ciúin le luch mar bhí gach duine ina gcoladh go sámh. Ní raibh mé abálta aon rud a dhéiceail ach mo mála mór líonta sa chúinne.Rug me greim fíochmhar ar an mála agus bhí me reidh. Bhí me ar bhuile le momháthair mar dúirt sí liom go raibh sí I ndeireadh na feide liom agus gur fadhb mór me sa chlann.Go tobann, léim me de gheit mar bhí mo dhearthair ó gag stanadh orm. Chuir sé cúpla céist orm faoin áit a riabh mé ag dul. Leath mo shúile le deora agus d’fhág mé slán leis. Ag dul amach an doras ar mo
bharraicíní bhí me ag déanamh iarracht na deora a choimead istigh ach theip orm. Ach ní raibh mé ábalta fanacht sa teach sin a feadh nóimead eile.
Ba shíoraíocht liom féín an turas ó stad an bhus go dtí an bád farantóireachta. Bhí an áit plódaithe le gach cineal duine agus tháinig uaigneas orm ach phioc mé suas mo mhisneach agus chuaigh mé ar bord. Bhí tuirseach an domhain or magus shuigh mé síos chun mo scíth a ligint. Níor thuisce go raibh mé i gcoladh domhain agus bhí mé ag baint taitneamh as an gcathaoir mór compórdach.Sar I bhfad shrioc mé Sasana ach cén áit? Ní riabh fhios agam bhí an oíche ag titim go tapa mar chaith mé an chuid is mó den am ag cuardach lóistín. Bhi me fluich go craiceann, préacht leis an bhfuacht agus bhí easpa airgead orm. Gheal m’aghaidh nuair a thug mé faoi deara fógra mór i bhfuinneog teach tábhairne. Chuigh me isteach lán le gliondar ach d’athraigh me mo phort nuair a chuala me an praghasar oíche amháin.Stop mé I leac dorais den chéad oíche agus bhí me I bponc ceart. Bhí me a crith leis a bhfuacht agus gan amhras ar bith bhí mé scanraithe I mo bheatha. Thosaigh me ag smaoineamh ar mo chlann sa bhaile agus iad ina gcoladh go sámh I leaba tirim. Bhí a lán torann agus deatach timpeall na háite agus níor
mhothaigh me compordach ar chor ar bith.An mhaidin ina dhiaidh sin dhúisigh me le scread coscán. Bhi gach duine ag brostu ar obair agus bhí na
paistí ag dul ar scoil chomh maith. Bhí boladh breán uaim faoin am seo agus chaith mé an lá ar fad ag baint trial as post a fháil ach ar an drochuair theip orm. Tar éis cúpla la ní raibh post ar bith agam agus ní raibh a lán airgead fágtha agam ach oiread. Chaith mé breis is dhá uair a chloig ag stánadh ar an trácht agus pian díochmhar I mo bholg leis an ocras. Tar éis tamaill thus mé faoi deara bean beag aosta ag druidim liom. Thosaigh sí ag caint liom
faoin a saol agus tabhacht an chlann freisin. D’inis mé mo scéal di agus bhí a fhios agam gur duin tuiscineach cliste í. Thug sí comhairle maith do magus tar eis cúpla uair bhí me ar an mbád abhaile.Nuair a shroic me an teach bhí mo dhearthair ó gag súgradh sa ghairdín. Ba bheag nár this sé I laige
nuair a chonaic sé mé. Rith se i mo threo agus thug sé póg mór dom. Bhí faoiseamh an domhain ar mo mháthair ach ag an am chéanna bhí sí ar buile liom. Thug sí íde na muc is na maidrí dom. Gan amhras ar bith chodail mé go sámh an oíche sin.

That's it? :O Sorry I don't know cause we don't do the sceal but it seems very short tbh.

shawnanana

I'd love for something to come up on the Irish language or a one where you can just throw in all the fadhbanna!

Copper_pipe

Todhchai na Gaeilge please

kevin12345

I know problems in the country/pressure on young people (bit about the media)/Education System/Future of Irish. If one of them doesn't come up I honestly don't know what I'd do.

Raeral

ChromosomeT wrote: »

for the scéal could anyone tell me if this story of mine is at the right standard to get a high mark? especially if Díoma etc comes up.

Ní raibh leoithne gaoithe sa spear nuair a thug me sracfhéachaint amach an fhuinneog trí leath shúil. D’fheach mé ar mo chlog agus bhí sé a cuig a chlog ar mhaidin. Bhí an teach chomh ciúin le luch mar bhí gach duine ina gcoladh go sámh. Ní raibh mé abálta aon rud a dhéiceail ach mo mála mór líonta sa chúinne.Rug me greim fíochmhar ar an mála agus bhí me reidh. Bhí me ar bhuile le momháthair mar dúirt sí liom go raibh sí I ndeireadh na feide liom agus gur fadhb mór me sa chlann.Go tobann, léim me de gheit mar bhí mo dhearthair ó gag stanadh orm. Chuir sé cúpla céist orm faoin áit a riabh mé ag dul. Leath mo shúile le deora agus d’fhág mé slán leis. Ag dul amach an doras ar mo
bharraicíní bhí me ag déanamh iarracht na deora a choimead istigh ach theip orm. Ach ní raibh mé ábalta fanacht sa teach sin a feadh nóimead eile.
Ba shíoraíocht liom féín an turas ó stad an bhus go dtí an bád farantóireachta. Bhí an áit plódaithe le gach cineal duine agus tháinig uaigneas orm ach phioc mé suas mo mhisneach agus chuaigh mé ar bord. Bhí tuirseach an domhain or magus shuigh mé síos chun mo scíth a ligint. Níor thuisce go raibh mé i gcoladh domhain agus bhí mé ag baint taitneamh as an gcathaoir mór compórdach.Sar I bhfad shrioc mé Sasana ach cén áit? Ní riabh fhios agam bhí an oíche ag titim go tapa mar chaith mé an chuid is mó den am ag cuardach lóistín. Bhi me fluich go craiceann, préacht leis an bhfuacht agus bhí easpa airgead orm. Gheal m’aghaidh nuair a thug mé faoi deara fógra mór i bhfuinneog teach tábhairne. Chuigh me isteach lán le gliondar ach d’athraigh me mo phort nuair a chuala me an praghasar oíche amháin.Stop mé I leac dorais den chéad oíche agus bhí me I bponc ceart. Bhí me a crith leis a bhfuacht agus gan amhras ar bith bhí mé scanraithe I mo bheatha. Thosaigh me ag smaoineamh ar mo chlann sa bhaile agus iad ina gcoladh go sámh I leaba tirim. Bhí a lán torann agus deatach timpeall na háite agus níor
mhothaigh me compordach ar chor ar bith.An mhaidin ina dhiaidh sin dhúisigh me le scread coscán. Bhi gach duine ag brostu ar obair agus bhí na
paistí ag dul ar scoil chomh maith. Bhí boladh breán uaim faoin am seo agus chaith mé an lá ar fad ag baint trial as post a fháil ach ar an drochuair theip orm. Tar éis cúpla la ní raibh post ar bith agam agus ní raibh a lán airgead fágtha agam ach oiread. Chaith mé breis is dhá uair a chloig ag stánadh ar an trácht agus pian díochmhar I mo bholg leis an ocras. Tar éis tamaill thus mé faoi deara bean beag aosta ag druidim liom. Thosaigh sí ag caint liom
faoin a saol agus tabhacht an chlann freisin. D’inis mé mo scéal di agus bhí a fhios agam gur duin tuiscineach cliste í. Thug sí comhairle maith do magus tar eis cúpla uair bhí me ar an mbád abhaile.Nuair a shroic me an teach bhí mo dhearthair ó gag súgradh sa ghairdín. Ba bheag nár this sé I laige
nuair a chonaic sé mé. Rith se i mo threo agus thug sé póg mór dom. Bhí faoiseamh an domhain ar mo mháthair ach ag an am chéanna bhí sí ar buile liom. Thug sí íde na muc is na maidrí dom. Gan amhras ar bith chodail mé go sámh an oíche sin.

outnumbered wrote: »

That's it? :O Sorry I don't know cause we don't do the sceal but it seems very short tbh.

Unfortunately, like Outnumbered we don't do the sceal so I can't really comment on to how good it is. However, I can assure you that it is not too short. They only look for 500-600 words for the ceapadoireacht and that's 685 so there's no shortage there
Also because only 20 marks go for the actual content and 80 go for the Irish used, as long as you have a good bit of vocabulary and most of your grammar is correct, you should be on track for a high mark