US Open 2013 - No Betting/Streams

ForeRight

I haven't seen a thread and with it being a major it probably deserves it rather than in the middle of the epic(not) thread.

If mods disagree that's no problem.




Pairings out today

Rory, Tiger and Adam Scott out together.

slave1

ForeRight wrote: »

I haven't seen a thread and with it being a major it probably deserves it rather than in the middle of the epic(not) thread.

If mods disagree that's no problem.




Pairings out today

Rory, Tiger and Adam Scott out together.

That's a right cheeky group pairing

SnowDrifts

What do you guys think of the Wicker baskets instead of flags? Think they are a bit silly myself - takes an element of skill out of the approach and replaces it with luck.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/u-open-feature-wicker-baskets-instead-flags-merion-173353981.html

baboo800

SnowDrifts wrote: »

What do you guys think of the Wicker baskets instead of flags? Think they are a bit silly myself - takes an element of skill out of the approach and replaces it with luck.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/u-open-feature-wicker-baskets-instead-flags-merion-173353981.html

Personally I think that they look silly.The players won't be able to judge the wind as well with no flag sticks

Rikand

baboo800 wrote: »

Personally I think that they look silly.The players won't be able to judge the wind as well with no flag sticks

If a professional golfer and his caddy are unable to read the wind due to the lack of flagsticks then they have a LOT more problems than that!

ForeRight

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

If a professional golfer and his caddy are unable to read the wind due to the lack of flagsticks then they have a LOT more problems than that!

Sure poor old JP can't read American greens so how would he have a chance with the American wind

Speak Now

Tough draw for your man Woods with the circus and entourage that's follows that McIlroy guy around :pac:

Rikand

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Tough draw for your man Woods with the circus and entourage that's follows that McIlroy guy around :pac:

Tough draw for both of them with the circus and entourage that follows 14 time major champion Stevie Williams! :pac: :pac:

baboo800

Delighted that sky are starting coverage at 2pm on Thursday and Friday

markthespark77

baboo800 wrote: »

Delighted that sky are starting coverage at 2pm on Thursday and Friday

thats great news to hear..:)

RikkFlair

Interesting to see how this course will play, hasn't hosted since 81 so hard to gauge. Saw it posted on Twitter (forget who said it) that 6 of the par 4s are below 400 yards.

L.O.F.T

The penalty for missing a fairway at Merion will be extreme as posted by Justin Roses caddie Mark Fulcher on Twitter. There is a fair chance it will be thicker come Thursday next week too with the rain and growth they have had the last few days.





https://twitter.com/Fooch1993/status/342031080238497792/photo/1/large

Rikand

People who hit the ball straight, rather than long could have good tournaments there next week

Luke Donald will never have a better chance to win one!

Manassaero could be a good one aswell with his current form!

Jimdagym

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

People who hit the ball straight, rather than long could have good tournaments there next week

Luke Donald will never have a better chance to win one!

Manassaero could be a good one aswell with his current form!

I think this is set up for a g-mac weekend.

baboo800

I think this is mannys best chance of winning a major as he is bullet straight and there are 6/7 par 4's under 400 yards so it definitely isn't a bombers course.In saying that there is par 3's over 240 yards and a par 5 over 615 yards.

Almaviva

L.O.F.T wrote: »

The penalty for missing a fairway at Merion will be extreme as posted by Justin Roses caddie Mark Fulcher on Twitter. There is a fair chance it will be thicker come Thursday next week too with the rain and growth they have had the last few days.

https://twitter.com/Fooch1993/status/342031080238497792/photo/1/large

That nonsense. Its a gimmick and a poor way to defend a parkland golf course. USGA policy of par being a target for the winner backfires when they have to do this to old courses. Well designed and fair courses will find the worthy champion - spinach adds more lottery factory than a US Open course shoud deserve.

rooney30

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

People who hit the ball straight, rather than long could have good tournaments there next week

Luke Donald will never have a better chance to win one!

Manassaero could be a good one aswell with his current form!

Despite what most believe Donald is not actaully the straightest player out there . It's his short game that has got him to where he is !!

denishurley

And his driving has been poor lately. I fancy G-Mac again

ItsChecoTime

I like the look of G-Mac as well, was on good form before missing the cut at Wentworth but imo that was down to tiredness, he's had a few weeks off and should suit the course

vienne86

My first reaction when I figured out what this course is like was that Donald would go well, but as someone already said, he has not been driving well. I too would love G-Mac do it, and if he is on song, he just might get it. Good that Harrington went has a reasonable week at St Jude, but with the way he can spray it around off, he could run up a big score. I hate to admit it, but I think Tiger wil have a good week.

ForeRight

It's just so difficult to see anyone but tiger winning it considering he won't use his driver at all. Stinger 3 irons every hole and after that his iron and wedge play is on fire this year(bar last week)

Coupled with his amazing putting 90% of the time this year he looks formidable yet again this week.

A.Partridge

Here's the field for US Open:

Full Exemptions - 76 Players

Last 10 U.S. Open Winners
Angel Cabrera
Michael Campbell
Jim Furyk
Lucas Glover
Graeme McDowell
Rory McIlroy
Geoff Ogilvy
Webb Simpson
Tiger Woods

2012 U.S. Am Winner/Runner-up
Steven Fox
Michael Weaver

Top Ranked World Am
Chris Williams

Last 5 Masters Winners
Phil Mickelson
Charl Schwartzel
Adam Scott
Bubba Watson

Last 5 British Open Winners
Stewart Cink
Darren Clarke
Ernie Els
Padraig Harrington
Louis Oosthuizen

Last 5 PGA Championship Winners
Keegan Bradley
Martin Kaymer
Y.E. Yang

Last 3 Players Championship Winners
K.J. Choi
Matt Kuchar

Euro BMW PGA Championship Winner
Matteo Manassero

2012 U.S. Senior Open Winner
Roger Chapman (Withdrawn)

T10 From 2012 U.S. Open
Kevin Chappell
Jason Dufner
John Peterson
John Senden
Michael Thompson
David Toms
Lee Westwood
Casey Wittenberg

2012 FedExCup Tour Championship Qualifiers
Luke Donald
Rickie Fowler
Sergio Garcia
Robert Garrigus
John Huh
Dustin Johnson
Zach Johnson
Hunter Mahan
Ryan Moore
Carl Pettersson
Scott Piercy
Justin Rose
Brandt Snedeker
Steve Stricker
Bo Van Pelt
Nick Watney

Top 60 in World Rankings (as of June 9)
Tim Clark
George Coetzee
Nicolas Colsaerts
Jason Day
Jamie Donaldson
Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano
Branden Grace
Bill Haas
Peter Hanson
Russell Henley
Billy Horschel
Freddie Jacobson
Thongchai Jaidee
Martin Laird
Paul Lawrie
Marc Leishman
Francesco Molinari
Thorbjorn Olesen
D.A. Points
Ian Poulter
Marcel Siem
Kyle Stanley
Henrik Stenson
Richard Sterne (Withdrawn)
Kevin Streelman
Boo Weekley

Sectional Qualifiers - 75 Players
There were 57 sectional qualifiers from the 11 U.S. sites, and 17 players from international qualifying in Japan and England. Stallings' alternate entry pushes the list of sectional entries to 75.

Century Country Club and Old Oaks Country Club, Purchase, N.Y.
Jesse Smith
Gavin Hall (a)
Geoffrey Sisk
Jim Herman

Alternates
Brandon Matthews (a)
Sunny Kim

Hawks Ridge Golf Club, Ball Ground, Ga.
Ryan Nelson
Michael Kim (a)
Grayson Murray (a)

Alternates
T.J. Vogel
Jordan Mitchell

Woodmont Country Club, Rockville, Md.
Russell Knox
Randall Hutchison
Adam Hadwin
Ryan Sullivan
Matt Harmon
Cliff Kresge
Mathew Goggin
Matt Bettencourt (playoff winner)

Alternates
Sam Saunders
Harold Varner III
Colonial Country Club, Memphis, Tenn.
Kevin Sutherland
Shawn Stefani
Jerry Kelly
Morgan Hoffmann
Joe Ogilvie
Scott Langley
Brandon Crick
Alistair Presnell
Andrew Svoboda

Alternates
Scott Stallings (gained entry with Chapman WD)
Will Bishop (a)

Brookside Golf & Country Club and The Lakes Golf & Country Club, Columbus, Ohio
Charley Hoffman
David Hearn
Nicholas Thompson
Robert Karlsson
Josh Teater
David Lingmerth
Brandt Jobe
Brendan Steele
Ted Potter, Jr.
Aaron Baddeley
Justin Hicks
Doug LaBelle II
Luke Guthrie
Sang-Moon Bae
Rory Sabbatini

Alternates
Mike Weir
Jason Kokrak

Springfield Country Club, Springfield, Ohio
Brian Stuard
Brandon Brown

Alternates
Ryan Yip
Ryan Lenahan

Ritz-Carlton Members Golf Club, Bradenton, Fla.
Kevin Phelan
John Hahn
John Nieporte

Alternates
David Snyder
Bradley Bastion (a)

Lakewood Country Club, Dallas, Texas
Matt Weibring
Jordan Spieth
Edward Loar
Zack Fischer

Alternates
Ryan Palmer
Ryan Hybl

Old Warson Country Club, St. Louis, Mo.
Jay Don Blake
Mackenzie Hughes

Alternates
Travis Johns
Brad Hopfinger

Tumble Creek Club, Cle Elum, Wash.
Wil Collins
Cheng-Tsung Pan

Alternates
Michael Gligic
Nick Taylor

Big Canyon Country Club & Newport Beach Country Club, Newport Beach, Calif.
Bio Kim
Steven Alker
Roger Tambellini
Cory McElyea
Max Homa

Alternates
Jesse Schutte
Garrett Sapp
Japan Sectional
Hideki Matsuyama
Jung-Gon Hwang
Yui Ueda
Yoshinobu Tsukada
Hiroyuki Fujita

European Sectional
Simon Khan
Jaco Van Zyl
Paul Casey
Morten Orum Madsen
Peter Hedblom
Eddie Pepperell
Marcus Fraser
John Parry
David Howell
Jose Maria Olazabal
Estanislao Goya
Chris Doak

Alternates
Rikard Karlberg
JB Hansen

A.Partridge

Aside from Tiger and GMac I think Jason Day might shine this week.

He has form in major championships and is fairly tidy off the tee.

All in all, I can't wait for the coverage to start.

loadwire

Some excellent content on the Philadelphia Inquirer site. Normally behind a paywall, but they've opened it up for US Open week, nice touch.

http://www.inquirer.com/sports/more/208117501.html?authenticate=y

Trampas

Course information

Pace of Play: Starting in 2006 the Board of Governors has emphasized the elimination of slow play. Please be prepared to
play in 4 hours or less. Be prepared to play at all times. Always carry an extra ball. Be ready to hit when it is your turn
and feel free to play ready golf. Always rake your own fairway bunker and replace your own divot. Repair ball marks and
prepare to putt while others are playing their ball

http://www.meriongolfclub.com/getmedia/e9278d3b-2dd9-42fa-81c2-d19be464d2de/GuestInformation2012.aspx

I wonder how many will break this?

GS11

Well thats Rory ****ed anyway, usually struggles when he plays with Tiger.

loadwire

Trampas wrote: »

Course information

Pace of Play: Starting in 2006 the Board of Governors has emphasized the elimination of slow play. Please be prepared to
play in 4 hours or less. Be prepared to play at all times. Always carry an extra ball. Be ready to hit when it is your turn
and feel free to play ready golf. Always rake your own fairway bunker and replace your own divot. Repair ball marks and
prepare to putt while others are playing their ball

http://www.meriongolfclub.com/getmedia/e9278d3b-2dd9-42fa-81c2-d19be464d2de/GuestInformation2012.aspx

I wonder how many will break this?

I read there are one or two par fours that could be driveable depending on where they have the tees, that tends to lead to pretty bad bottlenecks.

I think one is the 10th - players playing the back 9 first will actually be teeing off on the 11th to minimise delays.

bobwilliams

rooney30 wrote: »

Despite what most believe Donald is not actaully the straightest player out there . It's his short game that has got him to where he is !!

still one of the most accurate iron players on tour,driving is a bit erratic alright.

bobwilliams

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

People who hit the ball straight, rather than long could have good tournaments there next week

Luke Donald will never have a better chance to win one!

Manassaero could be a good one aswell with his current form!

it gives the shorter hitters a better chance but long hitters who are good iron players and putters will also have a big chance as they will be able to hit irons instead of fairway woods off a good few the tees.

baboo800

There having absolutely brutal weather at the moment which can only make things easier for the players with the course being so soft

realgolfgeek

I think course management and putting will be the real key this week.

Tiger and Jacobson for me.

PhlegmyMoses

Think Snedeker is on the cusp of winning a major. Some really good showings over the past few years with 4 top 10s since 2010. Didn't play this last year due to injury so should be hungry for it.

realgolfgeek

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Think Snedeker is on the cusp of winning a major. Some really good showings over the past few years with 4 top 10s since 2010. Didn't play this last year due to injury so should be hungry for it.

I certainly wouldn't be backing him now .. he's injured. rib injury.

PhlegmyMoses

Is he confirmed out? He has that problem that keeps making his ribs fracture or break but didn't know he was going to be a no-show again.

realgolfgeek

he's still in it... for the moment anyway
I just wouldn't be confident in him this week after it bothering him alot the last week..

IanVW

Great to see Waterford Castles Kevin Phelan playing at the us open again this year!:) great for the young Irish amateur

PhlegmyMoses

realgolfgeek wrote: »

he's still in it... for the moment anyway
I just wouldn't be confident in him this week after it bothering him alot the last week..

Yeah, knew I hadn't seen anything about him pulling out. You make a fair point, though. Really like him as a golfer, though, and he fits the bill for this course. Great putter, short off the tees (relatively) and good with GIR and FIR. If he can stay fit I can see him going deep. Really is unfortunate with that bizarre bone condition.

RikkFlair

They've kissed and made up....

http://www.cbssports.com/golf/blog/eye-on-golf/22385324/photo-tiger-woods-and-sergio-garcia-shake-hands-at-us-open

Rikand

http://www.usopen.com/en_US/course/hole.html?n=1

pictures and flyovers of the course.

it looks gorgeous!

SSK

I think the weather is going to make this week into a bit of a lottery. A short, soft course means low scores which suggests that anyone with a hot putter can have a shot at it.

Bearing that in mind its easy to see a middle of the road Yank could well take it out, someone like Scott Stallings or Billy Horschel who are red hot form. Kuchar is having a great year as well and one would think that if Stricker is ever going to win a major, this is the one.

Of the Europeans, McDowell and Mannasero are the two obvious form players. Given GMac has had a win and a second in his last 3 US Opens he seems suited to how the courses usually set up, although if the scoring is low that wouldn't suit him. Sergio is the other one to look out for, his putting is in decent shape at the moment although his mental fortitude is always the big issue.

Of the usual suspects after that, we know what McIlroy can do on a courses with receptive greens although its difficult to see him putting it all together this week. I think he may contend but won't win. Mickelson showed good form last week and if he holes a few putts could contend. Its hard to know whether Scott can back up his Masters wins, given he's basically a part time tournament golfer at the moment. Tiger is Tiger, although his strange performance at Memorial raises a few question marks.

So of the big guns I'd probably rank it:

1. Tiger
2. McDowell
3. Kuchar
4. Sergio
5. Mickelson

But I think given the way the course is set up and the weather forecasted I'd take the field over the above 5.

GS11

RikkFlair wrote: »

They've kissed and made up....

http://www.cbssports.com/golf/blog/eye-on-golf/22385324/photo-tiger-woods-and-sergio-garcia-shake-hands-at-us-open[/QUOTE]

Not much love in that photo, I think it would be impoosible for any 2 people to stand further away from each other and shake hands.

Hopefully thats the end of this bull****.

AGC

Tiger
GMac
Molinari

Squareball

Merion is a ten minute walk from my house. There is a great buzz in the area but traffic is a nightmare already. I was over there on Saturday and despite the all the rain on Friday it looked fantastic........It rained in buckets again yesterday and the forecast does not look great with on and off rain until Thursday. It would be a pity if it were not able to dry out properly as soft greens will make the course relatively "easy" and very un-open like!!.

Dr_Colossus

Squareball wrote: »

Merion is a ten minute walk from my house. There is a great buzz in the area but traffic is a nightmare already. I was over there on Saturday and despite the all the rain on Friday it looked fantastic........It rained in buckets again yesterday and the forecast does not look great with on and off rain until Thursday. It would be a pity if it were not able to dry out properly as soft greens will make the course relatively "easy" and very un-open like!!.

Is there complementary entry for locals to compensate you for some of the disruption or any perks to living close by? Have you ever played the course or what's the situation regarding membership, closed shop? It's claimed as a short course but at nearly 7,000 yards with a nice mix of long and short hole doesn't look like the big hitters will get away with only hitting irons from the tees. Should be a good test of golf and course management and an exciting weekend ahead.

Squareball

Dr_Colossus wrote: »

Is there complementary entry for locals to compensate you for some of the disruption or any perks to living close by? Have you ever played the course or what's the situation regarding membership, closed shop? It's claimed as a short course but at nearly 7,000 yards with a nice mix of long and short hole doesn't look like the big hitters will get away with only hitting irons from the tees. Should be a good test of golf and course management and an exciting weekend ahead.

No compensation where I am but I'm sure some of the houses immediately adjacent to the course are making a mint. The USGA completely took over their front gardens and are using them for VIP tents(picture attached). Parking on our road is restricted to residents only which is good but as I said traffic is brutal but it is a small price to pay to have it here. Can't wait.

PARlance

Squareball wrote: »

Merion is a ten minute walk from my house. There is a great buzz in the area but traffic is a nightmare already. I was over there on Saturday and despite the all the rain on Friday it looked fantastic........It rained in buckets again yesterday and the forecast does not look great with on and off rain until Thursday. It would be a pity if it were not able to dry out properly as soft greens will make the course relatively "easy" and very un-open like!!.

Keep the reports and images coming Squareball, thanks.

Pity The Gaurdian isn't around to see someone finally deliver on all his hype
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056913324

realgolfgeek

Thursday 2pm - sit down in front of tv, toasted sandwich and a can of coke.
Thursday 8pm - sit down in front of tv, dominoes pizza with multiple bottles of beer
Friday 2pm - sit down in front of tv, toasted sandwich (Different fillings), and a can of coke
Friday 8pm - sit down in front of tv, chinese and two bottles of wine.
Saturday - sit down in front of tv in local boozer with multiple pints
Sunday am - round of golf
Sunday pm - sit down in front of tv in local boozer with multiple pints
Monday morning - in bed, cross eyed, with multiple solpadines !!!!!!!

CAN'T FOOKIN WAIT !!!!!

Aidric

realgolfgeek wrote: »

Thursday 2pm - sit down in front of tv, toasted sandwich and a can of coke.
Thursday 8pm - sit down in front of tv, dominoes pizza with multiple bottles of beer
Friday 2pm - sit down in front of tv, toasted sandwich (Different fillings), and a can of coke
Friday 8pm - sit down in front of tv, chinese and two bottles of wine.
Saturday - sit down in front of tv in local boozer with multiple pints
Sunday am - round of golf
Sunday pm - sit down in front of tv in local boozer with multiple pints
Monday morning - in bed, cross eyed, with multiple solpadines !!!!!!!

CAN'T FOOKIN WAIT !!!!!

Home office?

ForeRight

What happens if a ball gets stuck in a wicker basket one might ask????


Well the answer is if it happens you must place your ball directly below the basket.
Not in the hole but on the lip of the hole.

realgolfgeek

A whole 5 minutes in Sergios press conference was dedicated to the 'Fried Chicken' comment ... seriously...don't these reporters have anything better to ask ... it's the freakin U.S Open ... no one gives a toss anymore !!!!!:mad:

SnowDrifts

realgolfgeek wrote: »

A whole 5 minutes in Sergios press conference was dedicated to the 'Fried Chicken' comment ... seriously...don't these reporters have anything better to ask ... it's the freakin U.S Open ... no one gives a toss anymore !!!!!:mad:

Couldn't agree more. From here

"He was then asked by a black journalist if he understood that "the comments that you made regarding Tiger Woods extend beyond Tiger Woods, that they have a stinging feeling to people who look like me and other people who don't look like me that like you and support you and want you to do well out here?"

Will ya ever f**k off. On with the golf please.