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Why is engine oil sooo expensive?

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  • 07-06-2013 4:20pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭


    Brother just had a servive done on his 1.6 diesel engine, and the 4.5L of specialist engine oil cost €190 :confused:

    Is that normal?

    Another thing that strikes me is that his "service" consisted of an oil change & a filter, and that was it!

    Maybe that's all that's required for a diesel service?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    What oil is that!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Who makes it? What's the specs? Is it racing oil?

    Some gearbox oils are £60 a litre and I'm sure that's a mickey mouse effort compared to some other oils out there so I'm not all surprised tbh

    Quite high for a service though


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    dgt wrote: »
    Who makes it? What's the specs? Is it racing oil?

    Some gearbox oils are £60 a litre and I'm sure that's a mickey mouse effort compared to some other oils out there so I'm not all surprised tbh

    Quite high for a service though

    Knowing that we are talking about 1.6 diesel and that some company was doing the service I think we can cross out high performance race car oil! :Pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Sorry, I forgot to mention that they changed the oil/air filters too, which equals 'a full service' according to FAST FIT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Knowing that we are talking about 1.6 diesel and that some company was doing the service I think we can cross out high performance race car oil! :Pac:

    I think too much at times :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    €190 for the service or for the oil itself?


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭TGi666


    don't even this the top secret fusion R oil goes for that much, and that's designed for big BHP cars


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    So.... 190e for oil, filters and labour? Not crazy money anyway.

    Labour: 1hr@60e
    Filters: 40e-50e?
    Oil: 50e-60e?


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Depends where you go, some place will charge >200 euro for a "full" service.
    Many customers are too lazy to shop around and clueless about what should be done and how much it would really only cost if they'd DIY it.
    This is why those places are still in operation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    For the 1.6 hdi its about 60 for the oil.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,292 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Bought 10l of Mobil 1 New life for 90 quid a month or so back and that was 0-40w

    Can't see a 1.6 Hdi needing even half that even if a similar grade


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    €50 for an oil filter? Having a laugh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    166man wrote: »
    €50 for an oil filter? Having a laugh?

    Filter(s).. Oil, air... Maybe fuel?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 478 ✭✭Stella Virgo


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Brother just had a servive done on his 1.6 diesel engine, and the 4.5L of specialist engine oil cost €190 :confused:

    Is that normal?

    Another thing that strikes me is that his "service" consisted of an oil change & a filter, and that was it!

    Maybe that's all that's required for a diesel service?

    sweet jebus,for oil and a filter!!!!me thinks you were ripped off big time:eek:
    ave a look at these oil prices delivered to your door,
    http://www.micksgarage.com/oils-lubricants/


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Filter(s).. Oil, air... Maybe fuel?

    Doubt it would include a fuel filter, they can be pricey AFAIK. Oil and air filter should be no more than €30.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    166man wrote: »
    Doubt it would include a fuel filter, they can be pricey AFAIK. Oil and air filter should be no more than €30.

    Oil and air filter should be no more than €15 all in really, oil would be about €50-60. Fuel filter would be €20 tops!
    €95!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    I always find it amazing how people can make such definite statements on parts and servicing prices when they don't even know the make and model of the car in question!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭dmc17


    I always find it amazing how people can make such definite statements on parts and servicing prices when they don't even know the make and model of the car in question!

    It's a diesel car and the 1.6 model :D

    I dunno why people go into these places to get their car serviced without finding out how much it's roughly gonna cost and then come onto boards to give out when they get their bill.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    The fuel filter for the 1.6hdi is about 60 euro


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    dmc17 wrote: »
    It's a diesel car and the 1.6 model :D

    Yes but even that doesn't mean you can know how much parts cost. They can vary massively from model to model.

    One member above says you should get a fuel filter for €20 tops. Just threw it out there as if it was a fact. No info as to what car we are talking about, just posted it up there regardless.

    As another poster above pointed out above you can not buy a fuel filter for a 1.6D Focus for €20. You can double that and add VAT at least for the metal type that is commonly fitted to them. Even the cheaper plastic type won't be bought for under €30.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Yes but even that doesn't mean you can know how much parts cost. They can vary massively from model to model.

    I know that, thus the :D;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    If it was the Peugeot 1.6 hdi engine then I would say.
    Fully syn oil €60
    Oil filter €12
    diesel filter €45
    air filter €15
    pollen filter €20
    €152
    Labour €38
    Total €190
    _______________
    If it was a focus/Volvo s40 1.6 diesel then add another €40 for the fuel filter.
    The garage would then owe you €2 for doing the service...:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Row wrote: »
    If it was the Peugeot 1.6 hdi engine then I would say.
    Fully syn oil €60
    Oil filter €12
    diesel filter €45
    air filter €15
    pollen filter €20
    €152
    Labour €38
    Total €190
    _______________

    Yep, thats it^

    Rang the brother earlier, and he has confirmed that it was not just the oil (specialised) to be changed,
    but that it was for all of the above + the labour, hence the €190. Still sounds expensive to me though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,447 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Its gonna be the 1.6 HDI engine anyway!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Rang the brother earlier, and he has confirmed that it was not just the oil (specialised) to be changed,
    Stop saying the Oil was "specialised" unless it was something very specific and not just modern diesel grade fully synth (which given they are the majority motor now, the opposite of anything specialist)!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Says oil type 'specialist' on the FAST FIT receipt, but maybe that's their own oil catagory/catalogue type for a 1.6 HDi diesel engine?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    YbFocus wrote: »
    Oil and air filter should be no more than €15 all in really, oil would be about €50-60. Fuel filter would be €20 tops!
    €95!

    Funny that, the air filter for my car alone is about 20e...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Row


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Yep, thats it^

    Rang the brother earlier, and he has confirmed that it was not just the oil (specialised) to be changed,
    but that it was for all of the above + the labour, hence the €190. Still sounds expensive to me though.


    The next service should only consist of Fully syn oil and filter...:)
    The fuel filter should last around 40-50k but with the unknown quality diesel out there I would change it sooner.
    Note the service intervals on the 1.6 hdi engines have gone back to 15 k kms not the 20k kms that maybe displayed on his instrument cluster.

    This new service interval was introduced by psa due to the large amount of turbos/engines failing on the dv6 engine....tbh once they are serviced within the 15 k km intervals and the correct oil used then there shouldn't be problem...:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    So it was a full service and not just oil..... :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    Row wrote: »
    If it was the Peugeot 1.6 hdi engine then I would say.
    Fully syn oil €60
    Oil filter €12
    diesel filter €45
    air filter €15
    pollen filter €20
    €152
    Labour €38
    Total €190
    _______________


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Yep, thats it^

    Rang the brother earlier, and he has confirmed that it was not just the oil (specialised) to be changed,
    but that it was for all of the above + the labour, hence the €190. Still sounds expensive to me though.

    are you serious you think thats expensive for all that ??????? :confused:

    what is it about people these days that they want everything for nothing :rolleyes:


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