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** 2013 Geography Before/After **

  • 06-06-2013 4:57pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭


    LETS DO THIS


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Monsieur Folie


    How many essays are people learning? It's going to be a long night...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭peekachoo


    This.

    This worries me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭bluejay14


    I have never felt so unprepared for an exam in my life.

    No joke. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Lcstudent2013


    Feel so f*cked for this. So much to learn. It can easily be a good, bad or average paper depending what's on there. There's just too much essays to be learned :/
    Hopefully the biome and short questions will be nice to bring the marks up though ! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Monsieur Folie


    Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to learn my biome off perfectly as well. This could go either way really, totally depends on the 30m Q's..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    F*** this :(

    I'll be happy to scrape 50 points, inc the project


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭200c200c


    Not half prepared ...Dreading it ...:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Phoenix Wright


    Have everything covered as much as possible except geoecology :P do you think I'll definitely be covered if I just do the five biome essays I've done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 MartyP


    really ****ting for this, such a long day tomorrow. wrecked after today. hope geo goes well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭andrew369


    Know the physical and human section pretty well, just need some stuff on the regional and refresh the biome, think it will be a good exam. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭PictureFrame


    Guys, I sat this exam last year and was convinced I had gotten a D in the paper. Was seriously disappointed and peeved off afterwards. I ended up with a B1 in the honours paper. My advice is, even if the questions you prepared don't come up (I had to make up EVERY section apart from the Physical geography last year), write down as much as you can. If it's any way relevant, they'll give you the benefit of the doubt and the SRP. Remember diagrams/statistics, they'll fill up your SRP count easily (but no more than 2 per answer). Don't be afraid to use bullet points either if you're stuck for time, I did last year and it didn't effect me. Also don't bother colouring/perfecting diagrams for physical, they don't expect art!

    I flew through the shorts to make up extra time for the Option essay and they help you settle in and feel confident at the beginning of the exam.

    Apart from that, watch the time and keep a cool head, don't panic even if you feel fcuked in the exam (as I really did last year).

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭buyer95


    Lads for the sketch maps on the regional section how important is shape, like if you have all the features?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Phoenix Wright


    buyer95 wrote: »
    Lads for the sketch maps on the regional section how important is shape, like if you have all the features?

    They're actually not too strict on it. In my pre my sketch-map of Ireland looked Great Britain and I got 20/20 :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭David1994


    Anyone have any ideas what to focus on for short questions? They normally ask stuff on physical it seems mainly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 hhkukhhu


    How many geoecology questions are people covering? I only know characteristics of a biome and characteristics of a soil really well then half know soil impact of human activity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    pens, pencil, colouring pencils, ruler ,rubber, am i forgetting something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭shootie


    I'm ok for regional Geography. It's physical stuff that I'm patchy on. Plate tectonics, volcanoes, earthquakes, rivers + rock cycle I'm ok on. It's just the bloody karst surfaces, glaciation and all that weathering ****e I could never get my head around. Biomes and soils are ok as long as a decent biome question comes up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭Vito Corleone


    pens, pencil, colouring pencils, ruler ,rubber, am i forgetting something?

    Might be worth bringing your calculator in for the short questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    Might be worth bringing your calculator in for the short questions.

    knew there was something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Jamesunited


    I can learn stuff on pretty quick when I put a heading and 10 bullet points and each section of a question , was wondering does it matter if we answer essay type questions in bullet points.. I could write them down and then answer questions but can do it directly from my head ha.. Waste touch time too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    what did that jackson fella predict?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭Isotonic


    I can learn stuff on pretty quick when I put a heading and 10 bullet points and each section of a question , was wondering does it matter if we answer essay type questions in bullet points.. I could write them down and then answer questions but can do it directly from my head ha.. Waste touch time too

    Bullet points are fine but they have to be developed. 1 line is not an SRP unless it contains a stat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Monsieur Folie


    I know all of my essays half well now. I could write a half decent answer on whatever comes up. So can anyone help me prioritize here? Like if there are some really likely essays then I want to know them inside out. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    I'd advise you all to revise glaciers, I think that got me last year in the short questions. Also, aerial photographs. Remember the difference between stalagmites and stalactites: tights go down. ;) And clints are the rocks, grikes are the gaps - I won't tell you how I chose to remember this piece of information :pac:, so just think G for gap.

    And yeah same as PF I had to lie through the whole exam. :D Thought I got a C3 but ended up with an A2, though I think it was marked extremely generously. I did the atmosphere bit and made things up. Like completely lied and still got 62/80 or something like that. It won't work for Geoecology because it's so widely done, but for regional etc you can probably make up a few statistics, road names etc if you have to.

    Another thing is last year they took new questions directly from the syllabus and it was stuff a lot of people just didn't cover. :/ One I remember was corporate strategies in an MNC, so I lied and said Dell's strategy was "saving money" (whose isn't :pac:) and then just explained their operations. Twist the question to suit yourself if you can, but within reason.

    If I can get through geography without crying, so can you. :P

    Oh and one last thing, if you're answering a question on landforms write EVERYTHING you can think of if you're running short on points. If it's karst, talk about carbonation in as much detail as you can. Always give name/process/example/diagram before anything else, it's 10 marks in the bag and any example counts - I did a beach and my example was the local one, even if the correcter might live miles away and not know about it. Good luck! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Tommyrawr


    The amount we have to learn and write out for tomorrow is crazy. It's like an English paper 3. Gold help me if characteristics of a biome or human influence doesn't come up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    The very best of luck to everyone doing geography tomorrow! :D I know you'll think I'm crazy but I'd love to be there again ha.

    I'll never forget the Thursday night I put in last year for that exam. I did sweet damn all maths paper 1 because I was focused so much on geography. I remember finishing up at 5 in the morning and then getting up at half 7 again. It was madness but well worth it and was alot more interesting than other subjects :P

    Do not worry or panic if you think you don't know your stuff too well. I was the exact same. I kept losing the plot this time last year because I couldn't rattle off fact after fact. Although there is unreal emphasis on knowing as much as possible about each topic to get the marks, do not worry. It's always the case that you know more than you think. And when you're in the exam tomorrow, it'll be fairly easy to make up a few extra points if needed. Throw down anything at all relevant to the topic at all and you're going to get marks somewhere. I remember even taking info from the short questions and putting it into a long question which resulted on me adding more common knowledge points as well. JUST HAVE YOUR HEAD SCREWED ON. Geography is a fairly easy exam as long as you do your stuff. Learn as much as possible. Don't rely on predictions completely. I knew every single topic possible for geography and I didn't even know them perfectly but I didn't need to. The ability to adapt in this exam is crazy. If you know a series of words for every essay then it's just pieces of a puzzle really. That's how I saw it and it worked brilliantly.

    Write as much as possible for everything. Watch your time but you'll be able to make it up in places so make sure you get in all your points plus an extra one here and there just for good measure.

    Once again do not panic if you don't know everything perfectly. If you have the gist of every topic you'll do very very well. Keep going over your stuff. It'll sink in to your subconscious mind and it'll be ready for you to use tomorrow :)

    Ye'll all do very good. I felt just like ye last year, probably worse and I did fine. I was sh*tting it for Geography because I was relying so badly on it. I didn't sleep the night before and was in a state doing the exam. But it was bliss when I was in the centre because I knew I made an effort. As soon as I handed up my paper I knew I had my A1....and I was right.

    Oh and write as damn fast as you can for Geography. My hand was in intense pain after the exam.... I had tablets ready and all after because I knew that pain was what I needed to get me the most marks possible. I've average enough writing but mine was terrible in the exam but I didn't care because the examiner will make an effort if they see your effort on the page :P

    This exam is well worth staying up late for guys. It is simple points when you really bust your lungs.

    Good luck :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    None of the 30 markers need to be an essay according to edco papers? They are called "Structured" so as long as they have a structure, you get marks.
    Also I am completely ****ed for this exam.
    Our teacher says a page is fine for 30m yet the other one says 2 pages?
    I'm freaking out here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭007driver


    pens, pencil, colouring pencils, ruler ,rubber, am i forgetting something?

    i suggest only using them at the end after you have checked evrything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Jenny_ODwyer


    David1994 wrote: »
    Anyone have any ideas what to focus on for short questions? They normally ask stuff on physical it seems mainly!

    my grinds teacher told me it was a guarantee for both coastal features and glacial features to be either an 8m or a 20m...how he knows this I don't know but he said it. Don't blame me if its wrong :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    None of the 30 markers need to be an essay according to edco papers? They are called "Structured" so as long as they have a structure, you get marks.
    Also I am completely ****ed for this exam.
    Our teacher says a page is fine for 30m yet the other one says 2 pages?
    I'm freaking out here!
    I did mine in bullet points. Some people say that makes the examiners seem stupid, as in "here, let me help you find my SRPs", but I felt it just made it nicer to look at. It also gets rid of that X amount of pages BS - one page is enough if you have 15 lines with one SRP in each. Usually that does take 2 pages if theres a diagram though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Jamesunited


    Canard wrote: »
    I did mine in bullet points. Some people say that makes the examiners seem stupid, as in "here, let me help you find my SRPs", but I felt it just made it nicer to look at. It also gets rid of that X amount of pages BS - one page is enough if you have 15 lines with one SRP in each. Usually that does take 2 pages if theres a diagram though.
    My regional work is basically full sentence bullet points that I've learned off ? I could do that quite easily if its the case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    My regional work is basically full sentence bullet points that I've learned off ? I could do that quite easily if its the case
    Yeah you could do that as an essay or as bullet points :) I prefer bullet points, it means when you get 15/16 you can just move on. I'd also worry that an examiner might not see all the SRPs (e.g. if you had 2 but they were both in one sentence), but that was just because my teacher was like that haha.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Canard wrote: »
    Yeah you could do that as an essay or as bullet points :) I prefer bullet points, it means when you get 15/16 you can just move on. I'd also worry that an examiner might not see all the SRPs (e.g. if you had 2 but they were both in one sentence), but that was just because my teacher was like that haha.

    I'm just worried that I'd underestimate an SRP and would end up with a lack of bullet points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    007driver wrote: »
    i suggest only using them at the end after you have checked evrything

    yea im only gonna colour diagrams at the end but you would need them to show thing in the sketch map? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Sean1996


    For the long questions i only know volcanoes,fold mountains,eathquakes - sedimentary,basalt and granite - primary in brazil and also migration in brazil - i know the gda also is this any good? what do i need to brush up on?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 dncl


    For the maps should I use graph paper or normal booklet paper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    I'm just worried that I'd underestimate an SRP and would end up with a lack of bullet points
    Yeah that can be a problem. That's why it's best to aim for around 20 if you can. Basically, if it adds to the understanding of the question it's an SRP. :) For example, a regional Q on an urban area- "The region I have studied is Dublin" - this is informative. "This is the capital of Ireland" - irrelevant to the question most of the time. Saying something like "The weather in the Mezzogiorno is very good, so X and Y crops grow there" would maybe get you marks for the crops, but something like "The temperature range of X-Y degrees gives rise to various crops, such as X, Y and Z" is much better and would probably get you 4 marks. It's hard to tell, no doubt, but imo it's no harm to lay it out in bullets either way because it looks better to me.

    Oh and to the above poster - graph paper. It's annoying, but marks go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    dncl wrote: »
    For the maps should I use graph paper or normal booklet paper?

    we have to use graph paper, u lose marks if u do it in the normal booklet, or so my teacher told us anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Monsieur Folie


    Really, graph paper for maps? Our teacher never told us that. :(
    Will keep that in mind tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    Really, graph paper for maps? Our teacher never told us that. :(
    Will keep that in mind tomorrow.

    wait no i think im thinking of something else :/ im starting to lose my mind :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Monsieur Folie


    So don't use graph paper for maths? Whatttt. Safe to say I am suitably confused now. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭peekachoo


    I'm now confident in a soil composition question so I will be praying that comes up as I don't have time to learn a biome in detail!

    I still have the whole human section to revise, it's a complete loss to me it flies over my head. Any tips? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭shootie


    None of the 30 markers need to be an essay according to edco papers? They are called "Structured" so as long as they have a structure, you get marks.
    Also I am completely ****ed for this exam.
    Our teacher says a page is fine for 30m yet the other one says 2 pages?
    I'm freaking out here!

    Don't base your answers on length, the examiners are looking for SRPs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭internet_user


    So don't use graph paper for maths? Whatttt. Safe to say I am suitably confused now. :P

    maps maths geography and graphs are all flying around in my head im sorry :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    My teacher told us she has seen markers dishing out the marks and literally handing them out. Also in SQ write anything even if you are unsure as they say in some marking scheme accept ALL answers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭andrew369


    Hey guys this is the predictions list put up by that Eoin Jackson guy, no idea how accurate he is but it is better than nothing for some last minute cramming. :) Will have to zoom in a little to read it clearly, and the Human section is the sort of greyed out one.

    http://www.mediafire.com/view/ed7po3r8364c6ec/~2013+Geography+%28H%29+topics.doc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭peekachoo


    I think im just gonna learn sample answers on what he predicted for human at this stage??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Tommyrawr


    I've changed to Economic geography now. Theres like 12 hours to the exam but I do business and its SERIOUSLY similar to the ABQ Sections that are up this year and it seems way easier than human.

    I'm gonna have a go at it anyway! Be grand.

    Should I be covered enough if I learn these for geoecology?
    Characteristics of Brown earth Soils
    Characteristics of a Biome
    Human interference with a biome

    i have WOI,Paris and India done for Regional
    And I Know my physical well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 MartyP


    if biome or human influence on soil does not come up i will kill myself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭andrew369


    peekachoo wrote: »
    I think im just gonna learn sample answers on what he predicted for human at this stage??

    A lot of the human section overlap with things such as migration/overpopulation and urban development/land use models. It is kind of like the regional section in that you can come up with your own SRPs if you feel stuck. But yeah if you feel that is your weakest then learn off some samples, they are pretty limited in what they can ask so anything you look at is a relatively safe use of time. :)


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