bear1 wrote: »
Typical of this country
bear1 wrote: »
I would love to see the Docklands transformed into a highrise area... can picture landing in Dublin at night time, would be pretty cool
bear1 wrote: »
5 to 7 stories you say.... seen bigger highrises in Lapland Dublin would look fantastic with them. Need to get rid of ABP before the murder the city with ****e.
Dublin is a fantastic looking city though just need that extra bit...
The Airport City plan could still happen though, in 20 or 30 years time. But bear in mind, there were even objections for building an 86m control tower at the airport (which would be necessary when the new runway is built and possibly another terminal in the future) because it was "visible from the city centre".
bear1 wrote: »
why would anyone reject the tower? People are still stuck in the Georgian era me thinks If Dublin was like Rome I could understand but as it isnt it seems to be the perfect candidate for a mix of 21st century and 17 to 19th century.
Took nearly 20 years to complete the M50 ffs
Pixel Eater wrote: »
It's the same reason the Dart Underground and Metro North have run into so much opposition; a general failure to accept Dublin isn't a quaint little town anymore but a fairly big and gritty city that needs a major overhaul.
You're absolutely correct though.
ted1 wrote: »
1.5m people= small city
murphaph wrote: »
Depends on the context. "small" and "big" are entirely subjective. Berlin is a "big city" by most European's reckoning (3.5m population inside the city boundary, another ~1 million in the adjacent areas of the state of Brandenburg) but a Mexico City resident might beg to differ.
Dublin is without contest the heart of the Irish economy and that economy is growing ever more dependent on highly skilled workers who in general will demand a certain standard of living. If Dublin fails to compete with the Munichs of this world then ultimately the Googles of this world will move on to somewhere more appealing to their staff.
petronius wrote: »
I was looking back at some boomtime follies and thinking and this idea always puzzled me.
One thing was i suspicious of the airport building it considering the massive cost to the tax payer that terminal 2 was for a glorified shed.
Also if the DAA were not able to build a rail link to the city either via a spur to the northern line, or a new line into the city via finglas, royal canal docklands, or via an underground or via Metro North what faith would you have in them producing a new town off the M1 with facilities public transport links etc.
High Rise and more generally high density housing developments should be coupled with public transport (luas, metro rail etc) to fully appreciate their benefits
Nimrod 7 wrote: »
Woah woah, first of all this was nothing but a vision for the future, yesterday's future. And in yesterday's future Metro North was built.
Why do people think everything getting built in this country was paid by them?
Glorified shed? I'd love to see how you arrived to the conclusion that Terminal 2 is a glorified shed. Please expand on that.
Yes, to hell with the Railway Procurement Agency, National Transport Authority and Irish Rail, it's the Dublin Airport Authority that should be building railway lines in this city. Building a DART spur to the airport would be very unwise. It's not a direct link and would take way too long to get to the airport, however if it was built after DART Underground, it does have an advantage that it will connect the airport to the main line therefore making it more accessible for people from outside Dublin.
But if we build that now, it will impede the construction of Metro North which connects parts of Dublin like Ballymun, DCU and Swords to the city centre and both Luas lines. It's not just about the airport, it's about public transport for Dublin and best way to do that would be to build DU, then MN and then the DART spur to the airport.
MYOB wrote: »
There is no capacity on the Northern Line for a spur. Fixing that will cost about as much as building Metro North, but without serving Swords or providing any journey time benefit over buses.
Its Irish Rail kite-flying in the hope they might get a few quid, nothing more.
lxflyer wrote: »
Nonsense. Post-completion of the re-signalling project which stretches from the city centre to Clongriffin there will most definitely be the capacity.
You could certainly provide a minimum 4 per hour DART to/from the airport.
I would imagine that the Howth branch would become an off peak shuttle to/from Howth Junction, which would result in a higher frequency service to/from Howth (4 per hour).
But the bottom line is that it could certainly be done with minimal impact.