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ste2010

Tomorrow is the day

slaneylad

13:35 Epsom Beatrice Aurore e/w 8/1 with ladbrokes at the moment

mailburner

ste2010 wrote: »

Tomorrow is the day

lucky 15 :pac:

madmoose

Producer i like who is 4/4 at epsom, hard race though with Gregorian and Sri Putra in it but at 4/1 ive backed Producer.

ste2010

mailburner wrote: »

lucky 15 :pac:

I actually fancy peter Bowens in the last. Yard are on fire and he's traveling over 300m with one runner

UnitedIrishman

madmoose wrote: »

Producer i like who is 4/4 at epsom, hard race though with Gregorian and Sri Putra in it but at 4/1 ive backed Producer.

Only one I've picked out thus far aswell. Might be a bit unoriginal but course form, at 7/2 and having beaten Aljamaaheer (subsequently 4L behind Encke in the Lockinge) - looks a decent bet to me.

Still unsure who to go with in the Oaks. My bet would have been Certify but.. well..

UrbanSea

Blackstone Vegas is a big price at 16/1 in the second at Market Rasen, mostly a flat runner, he was second over this course and distance last May off 3 lbs higher (winner won 2 jumpers bumpers and a handicap chase since), pair nicely clear of a duel winner.


Has had two runs over hurdles since on soft ground but has never gone on soft. Given a chance by the handicapper tomorrow looks a big each way price

DaithiMa

More Equity in the 4.55 Market Rasen. 12/1 at the moment. Back down to a more suitable trip and ran very well last time out, travelling best for a long way before running out of puff in the final furlong and just getting run out of a place(beaten 1 3/4lengths). Emma Sayer takes off a handy 5lb, and as a result she is racing at 20lbs below her last winning mark(107).
What seals the deal for me though is that Emma is going toe to toe with Lucy Gardner for the amateur ladies championship, which ends in a week or so, and she is only a couple of wins behind. I have a feeling this horse has been lined up to provide her with another winner to close the gap. Definitely worth a substantial e/w bet in my opinion.

rossom

2.10 Epsom

Blue Surf 5/1

Although he disappointed on his final start last season, Blue Surf was very progressive as a 3 year old and this unexposed son of Excellent Art looks to have an excellent chance of winning this for the red hot Amanda Perrett stable. After 3 good runs in Maidens as a 2 year old, Blue Surf made a successful start to his 3 year old campaign when scoring on handicap debut off a mark of 80 at Windsor last July before running a fine 3rd off a mark of 85 at Goodwood a month later in a race that has worked out well. Raised 2lb for that effort, he regained the winning thread with an excellent win over that same 10f trip at Goodwood off a mark of 87 when asserting late on with the front two clear of the remainder before he was luckless on several occasions at Ascot after that. He got going too late over 1m2f at Newbury on good to firm ground off a mark of 94 when staying on to finish 3rd but scored very impressively eased back to a mark of 93 over that same C+D at the end of October when he travelled extremely well before quickening to lead inside the final furlong where he idled late on but was always doing enough. Although the 2nd and 3rd have yet to run again, the form of that race is very strong with the 4th Sir John Hawkwood winning both his subsequent starts to now see him rated 110 and it very much seemed like Blue Surf was still very much on the up. He was never better than midfield on his final start at Doncaster but that was his 7th run in a season that only started in July so I'm ignoring that effort and he's been freshened up over the winter where hopefully he's developed into an even better 4 year old. He races here off a mark of 98 and given that he's only 5lb above his last impressive success and given his unexposed and progressive nature I think he'll make up into a Pattern horse this year. A horse who clearly goes well fresh, he represents an Amanda Perrett yard that could not be going any better at the moment with 9 winners from her last 16 runners and Pat Dobbs, who was on board for all Blue Surf's successes, takes the ride. Although he could have been drawn better than stall 11, he should really like Epsom's very sharp nature given its similarity to Goodwood and he should also really enjoy the given in the ground as well. Although quite a competitive little contest, if he's improved over the winter months then I think Blue Surf has an outstanding chance of winning this to keep his trainer's tremendous form going.

5.40 Catterick

Decent Fella 6/1

I'm having a decent bet on Decent Fella as he could prove miles too good for these off a mark of 67 having shaped extremely well over an inadequate 5f at Chepstow on his first start on turf for his current trainer and is extremely well handicapped on his old form. Rated 92 as recent as September of last year for Andrew Balding, this 7 year old joined Violet Jordan in December last year and after running 11 times on the all weather in recent months his mark has plummeted to 67 on a surface that doesn't suit anywhere near as much as turf. His latest start came at Chepstow earlier this month over an inadequate 5f off this mark of 67 (a full 25lb below the mark his previous turf start came on) and he very much looked like a horse who was very close to winning with an extremely eye catching run. On a day where Chepstow was very much suiting those who were on the pace, Decent Fella was ridden by Cathy Gannon and it very much seemed as if his jockey was taking a tug in the early stages as he was a full 10L+ off the pace. Heading towards the final furlong, he was still absolutely miles behind the principles and when Gannon released a bit of rein he made up a huge amount of ground without ever being asked much of a question and he was never nearer than at the finish as he was beaten 3L in the end. He really seemed to appreciate the return to turf despite the trip being too short and I expect him to go very close off the same mark now over his best distance of 7f. In her reasonably short career, Violet Jordan has made a name for herself for getting horses very well handicapped in a short period of time and this one looks to fit that pattern perfectly and he is undoubtedly ridiculously well handicapped and her horses have been running well recently without winning. Robert WinstQon takes the ride on his first outing for the stable but its very interesting that he is 1-1 for the owner and Decent Fella has bagged the plum draw in stall 1. There seems to be a lot of potential pace angles in the race which should suit this hold up performer and if building on his latest effort now back over his optimum trip then this well handicapped individual could prove miles too good off a mark of 67 in what looks a very winnable contest.

6.15 Down Royal

Sir Ector 13/2

The very shrewd James Lambe looks to have found his unexposed 6 year old an excellent chance of recording his 2nd win over hurdles at a track where he goes very well having won once and finished 2nd twice on 3 starts at Down Royal. A very useful horse on the flat in France and now for current connections (rated 90 on the level), Sir Ector had 3 quick runs over hurdles early last year on unsuitably soft ground before a massive gamble was foiled on his handicap debut off a mark of 89 over 2m at Down Royal last May when he couldn't real back Flemross who was clear of the field for the entire contest as he had to settle for 2nd and the heartbreak looked set to continue when going down by a short head over this C+D off a mark of 96 a month later. He then returned with a couple of runs on the flat where he won on the second occasions wearing first time blinkers before he got off over hurdles off a mark of 100 when scoring very, very easily by 6L despite a terrible mistake at the 2nd last over 2m at this course again wearing the blinkers under todays jockey Robbie Colgan. He won with any amount in hand that day which saw him raised a huge 17lb in a race where the 3rd has run two very good races on his only subsequent start in Britain including when going down by half a length off a 14lb higher mark (mark inflated in Britain) before taking the winter off. He ran poorly twice in March over hurdles (no blinkers) in unsuitably soft ground which has seen him fall back to a mark of 114 and he ran a really good race on the flat with the blinkers reapplied earlier this month on soft ground he would have disliked which clearly shows he is in good heart. Its absolutely no surprise to see him sporting the blinkers again today given that he goes extremely well at Down Royal and he also gets his preferred good ground in a race that I suspect the trainer has earmarked for him for some time. Despite being a stone higher than his win last Summer, he is still unexposed over hurdles and his mark of 114 looks very manageable in relation to his flat rating and I think he's going to go really close.

droidman123

madmoose wrote: »

Producer i like who is 4/4 at epsom, hard race though with Gregorian and Sri Putra in it but at 4/1 ive backed Producer.

Never won over todays distance??

ste2010

3 bets for me today

NAP - the road ahead 5.30 Market Rasen may do fennel boy ew as cover
Strongly suggested 1.55 Market Rasen
(Plot central) 7-1 and shortening. Monitor price to see if it tightens any shorter
3.05 Market Rasen Halogen 8-1

If no money is generated from above ill be gone until
November

madmoose

droidman123 wrote: »

Never won over todays distance??

True but placed at a mile in meydan, just think hes worth a bet at the price.

Slattsy

Moth Moth Moth

Arctic89

Why oh why has there not been a headline like the following yet:

"Joseph O'Brien to ride father's Moth at Epsom"

It's sub-editing gold surely.

The Hurricane

Frankies back today after his ban on Beatrice s Auora or whatever its called be interesting to see how he gets on .

droidman123

The Hurricane wrote: »

Frankies back today after his ban on Beatrice s Auora or whatever its called be interesting to see how he gets on .

Junkies shouldnt have any place in sport,they should of banned the idiot for life.

andyman

droidman123 wrote: »

Junkies shouldnt have any place in sport,they should of banned the idiot for life.

Why should he? He didn't take a performance-enhancing drug...

Overthelast

Neil Callan jocked off Sri Putra in the G3. Dettori takes the ride.

I did a small bet with Bruce's - 10/3 Secret Gesture (enhanced odds in shop)

Slattsy

droidman123 wrote: »

Junkies shouldnt have any place in sport,they should of banned the idiot for life.

Harsh man, harsh !

fangee

Slattsy wrote: »

Harsh man, harsh !

I thought it was coke but that would've helped with the come down.

madmoose

Callen told 10mins ago he was being jocked off and he has a right to be fuming.

droidman123

andyman wrote: »

Why should he? He didn't take a performance-enhancing drug...

Cocaine is a performance enhancing drug,any way it doesnt matter,it has no place in any sport.he got a chance in life with a top stable,many young jockeys could only dream about that.he is in a position to set a good example to young lads starting in the game.if he wants to put that crap in his body,he should of waited until he retired from the sport.racing has a bad enough name already.

droidman123

Slattsy wrote: »

Harsh man, harsh !

I dont think so.

jimjamcos

I'd watch those comments if I was you Droidman...wouldn't want to get on Frankie's bad side!!!

tryfix

Backed Secret Gesture in the Oaks, thought she was a machine the last day, even though she didn't beat much she couldn't have been anymore impressive.

Have a healthy respect for Moth because the Guineas form is working out, but I'm not so sure O'Brien's fillies are world beaters this year. An outsider could easily win it, but which one?

Backstreet Moyes

€5 trixie for me Blue Surf, Gregorian and Moth.

andyman

droidman123 wrote: »

Cocaine is a performance enhancing drug,any way it doesnt matter,it has no place in any sport.he got a chance in life with a top stable,many young jockeys could only dream about that.he is in a position to set a good example to young lads starting in the game.if he wants to put that crap in his body,he should of waited until he retired from the sport.racing has a bad enough name already.

No it's not a performance enhancer, if anything it would acute performance rather than enhance it.

I'm not saying he was wrong to be banned, but for you to suggest he should be banned for life for taking a substance that he could well have an addiction to because of a mistake he made in the past is ridiculous. For every chance, they deserve a second chance to prove that it was a mistake.

You want to talk about setting examples? What about all of these jockeys on champagne diets? Should they be banned for life too? Not really setting a good example are they? And before you ask, I've interviewed top jockeys who have talked about alcohol addiction and some of the stories that have come with them (and no, I'm not willing to name any names). If we start banning jockeys for their first offence then there would be no jockeys left. I think Frankie deserves a chance to prove that he's over this and committed to the sport.

Besides, this "setting an example for young jockeys" argument is a load of tripe. It's not Dettori's responsibility to ensure these jockeys stay clean, that comes down to the individual. If they want to follow in Dettori's footsteps then that's their prerogative, not his.

Slattsy

Moth Moth Moth

Gringo180

Have went with Liber Nauticus for the win and a small each way bet on Madame Defarge in The Oaks.

jimjamcos

Gringo180 wrote: »

Have went with Liber Nauticus for the win and a small each way bet on Madame Defarge in The Oaks.

It's all about Moth man!

droidman123

andyman wrote: »

No it's not a performance enhancer, if anything it would acute performance rather than enhance it.

I'm not saying he was wrong to be banned, but for you to suggest he should be banned for life for taking a substance that he could well have an addiction to because of a mistake he made in the past is ridiculous. For every chance, they deserve a second chance to prove that it was a mistake.

You want to talk about setting examples? What about all of these jockeys on champagne diets? Should they be banned for life too? Not really setting a good example are they? And before you ask, I've interviewed top jockeys who have talked about alcohol addiction and some of the stories that have come with them (and no, I'm not willing to name any names). If we start banning jockeys for their first offence then there would be no jockeys left. I think Frankie deserves a chance to prove that he's over this and committed to the sport.

Besides, this "setting an example for young jockeys" argument is a load of tripe. It's not Dettori's responsibility to ensure these jockeys stay clean, that comes down to the individual. If they want to follow in Dettori's footsteps then that's their prerogative, not his.

If you think its not dettori,s or any professional sportsperson to set an example to the youth of the sport i think thats part of whats wrong with these overpaid egotists.i,m not saying its dettoris responsibility to keep youngsters off drugs,but as a pro,it is his duty to set a good example.if you cant see that i think we should agree to differ.

ShaneU

Boonga Roogeta at 2.10 for me. Last race was too far a trip, and the race before that was a day after a win.

ste2010

ste2010 wrote: »

3 bets for me today

Strongly suggested 1.55 Market Rasen
(Plot central) 7-1 and shortening. Monitor price to see if it tightens any shorter

If no money is generated from above ill be gone until
November

Boom! Guess I'm here for some more time! Went off 8's with some I think!

BQQ

ste2010 wrote: »

3 bets for me today

NAP - the road ahead 5.30 Market Rasen may do fennel boy ew as cover
Strongly suggested 1.55 Market Rasen
(Plot central) 7-1 and shortening. Monitor price to see if it tightens any shorter
3.05 Market Rasen Halogen 8-1

If no money is generated from above ill be gone until
November

Well spotted.
Couldn't bring myself to back it having missed the bigger prices

Slattsy

ste2010 wrote: »

Boom! Guess I'm here for some more time! Went off 8's with some I think!

Well played mate, good spot indeed.

Yourwellcum

Big boo boo by Emma Spencer there

jimjamcos

Fair play to him, Callan got his dig across very well there. A right 'blonde moment' from Emma Spencer though!

Slattsy

Yourwellcum wrote: »

Big boo boo by Emma Spencer there

You said boob :P

Also,

Moth Moth Moth

Gringo180

jimjamcos wrote: »

Fair play to him, Callan got his dig across very well there. A right 'blonde moment' from Emma Spencer though!

What did he say I missed it?

ste2010

General miller in the next at market rasen. Owner is due a win. Nicky needs to deliver. Runs in higher class races than this and plot fell by the way side over hurdles last time out

jimjamcos

Gringo180 wrote: »

What did he say I missed it?

He said "You should do your homework Emma but I'll not get into the politics of it".

Slattsy

jimjamcos wrote: »

He said "You should do your homework Emma but I'll not get into the politics of it".

what did she ask him?

Yourwellcum

Gringo180 wrote: »

What did he say I missed it?

Asked Callen about his ride in the next. He replied that she obviously doesn't do her homework. Said he wasn't going into the politics of it. Classy reply considering he is visibly disgusted by the whole thing

BQQ

droidman123 wrote: »

Junkies shouldnt have any place in sport,they should of banned the idiot for life.

Would you take a similarly hard line with those that take the drug of alcohol?

Here's a few that failed a breath test before racing:

Paul Carberry
Robbie Power
Franny Norton
Joe Fanning
Micheal Hills
Chantal Sutherland
Micheal Darcy
Campbell Gillies (RIP)

Life bans for all?

jimjamcos

Messy, messy race that!

Gringo180

The only good thing about C4 coverage these days is Simon Holt's commentary, its gone to ****e this year.

jimjamcos

Good to see owners of Sri Putra getting their just rewards! :pac:

Slattsy

Ah bollox!
Strongly fancied Gregorian today but didnt bother backing the fooker in the end ! Typical.

Moth Moth Moth

jimjamcos

Slattsy wrote: »

Ah bollox!
Strongly fancied Gregorian today but didnt bother backing the fooker in the end ! Typical.

Moth Moth Moth

Don't worry about that...Nobody will be fit for the moth!!


Moth Moth Moth

droidman123

BQQ wrote: »

Would you take a similarly hard line with those that take the drug of alcohol?

Here's a few that failed a breath test before racing:

Paul Carberry
Robbie Power
Franny Norton
Joe Fanning
Micheal Hills
Chantal Sutherland
Micheal Darcy
Campbell Gillies (RIP)

Life bans for all?

Alcohol is not illegal

Slattsy

I've often been compared to Tom Cruise - Maverick from Top Gun. (Best movie ever btw)


Have to back him here