Irish Open 2013 - Stadium Hole

EauRouge79

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/irish-open-stadium-hole-carton-house-929103-May2013/

This should be some craic. 17th at Carton House to have a similiar grandstand to what was seen in Arizona over past few years.

Security staff might have a job on their hands!

ssbob

There is nothing similar in European Tour golf so worth a try, hopefully another solid tournament this year will draw more of the top players again. Good to see the Molinari's playing.

Speak Now

I thought they were doing in it for this year.

Benicetomonty

EauRouge79 wrote: »

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/irish-open-stadium-hole-carton-house-929103-May2013/

This should be some craic. 17th at Carton House to have a similiar grandstand to what was seen in Arizona over past few years.

Security staff might have a job on their hands!

Luckily 17 is miles away from the clubhouse and hopefully any place else where spectators can get plastered at their leisure and shout nonsense at the players. I think the Waste Management is a unique event but not 1 that we need to replicate. Great hole though, like the idea of the grandstand

RikkFlair

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

I thought they were doing in it for this year.

They are...thread title should read 2013.

blackwhite

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Luckily 17 is miles away from the clubhouse and hopefully any place else where spectators can get plastered at their leisure and shout nonsense at the players. I think the Waste Management is a unique event but not 1 that we need to replicate. Great hole though, like the idea of the grandstand

There's going to be a bar in the grandstand.

Rikand

cool idea

Hope it works well

RikkFlair

"MASHED SPUDS!!!!" :pac:

ssbob

RikkFlair wrote: »

"MASHED SPUDS!!!!" :pac:

Anyone I hear shouting that up there is getting a lifetime ban on boards:D

PARlance

Can't wait for this.

Maybe I'm being a little pedantic here but...Is the 17th really the Monty's Signature hole??
I don't know how you could say it was.

While it's a very nice Par 3, I don't think it ties in with the 16 holes that go before it.
The 17th and 18th to me seem like 2 holes that belong over on the O'Meara.

While the 17th is protected by 2 bunkers, they are nothing like the bunkers you get on the previous 16 holes.
I know a grandstand should be at the latter stages of a round, I think it's a shame that it's at the 17th.... of all the other holes, this has probably the best natural framing and would look great as it was.

If choosing a Par 3, the 7th or 13th would have been the holes to go for. Both great Par 3's, both surrounded by the signature bunkers, both lacking natural framing and could have greatly benefited from a grandstand.

Ah who cares....can't wait

ForeRight

ssbob wrote: »

Anyone I hear shouting that up there is getting a lifetime ban on boards:D

I'm going to scream "BOARDS.IE GOLF"

Johnny_Fontane

isnt the back of the 17th all swamp and water? can imagine a few boozed up spectators ending up in it.....

there is a significant drop on the hole so balls will be coming in from a serious height, so that could be cool.

Hope it works for them.

If you look at the link below, it looks kind of poxy though. wouldnt have thought there was much space behind that green.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2013/tournamentid=2013050/news/newsid=194011.html

bustercherry

ajcurry123 wrote: »

Can't wait for this.

Maybe I'm being a little pedantic here but...Is the 17th really the Monty's Signature hole??
I don't know how you could say it was.

While it's a very nice Par 3, I don't think it ties in with the 16 holes that go before it.
The 17th and 18th to me seem like 2 holes that belong over on the O'Meara.

While the 17th is protected by 2 bunkers, they are nothing like the bunkers you get on the previous 16 holes.
I know a grandstand should be at the latter stages of a round, I think it's a shame that it's at the 17th.... of all the other holes, this has probably the best natural framing and would look great as it was.

If choosing a Par 3, the 7th or 13th would have been the holes to go for. Both great Par 3's, both surrounded by the signature bunkers, both lacking natural framing and could have greatly benefited from a grandstand.

Ah who cares....can't wait

There is no room for a grandstand round the others.

Dolph Starbeam

I like the idea. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. €10 for admission tickets for the grandstand on top of the normal ticket price. Think I'll go on the Sunday now.

PARlance

bustercherry wrote: »

There is no room for a grandstand round the others.

No room around the others?
Out of all the holes, the 17th and 18th have the least room to work with.

I mentioned the Par 3, 13th earlier, it's actually the 12th.
No room? Really?
Too early in the round maybe

http://www.cartonhousegolf.com/golf-course-3d-montgomerie.html#

GreeBo

ForeRight wrote: »

I'm going to scream "BOARDS.IE GOLF"

Would you mind prefixing that with "No streams allowed on"?

ForeRight

GreeBo wrote: »

Would you mind prefixing that with "No streams allowed on"?

Actually I changed my mind. I'm going to shout "BOARDS.IE GREEBO OUT"

Ilik Urgee

Is there not water at the back of that green? With briars trees all down the right hand side?

PARlance

Ilik Urgee wrote: »

Is there not water at the back of that green? With briars trees all down the right hand side?

Yip, the right hand side would be out of the question, there's room behind the green but it slopes down towards the river.
From the images they have it running down the left hand side and then behind the green.
It will be in close proximity to the 18th tee as well.

bustercherry

ajcurry123 wrote: »

No room around the others?
Out of all the holes, the 17th and 18th have the least room to work with.

I mentioned the Par 3, 13th earlier, it's actually the 12th.
No room? Really?
Too early in the round maybe

http://www.cartonhousegolf.com/golf-course-3d-montgomerie.html#

I'm assuming you have been to a tour event. You don't put a great big grandstand in the middle of a course blocking thoroughfare's and views of other holes for the fans not in the stadium hole.

Golfgraffix

Great looking graphic

Not sure if i am allowed post the flyby video but if I can i will. There is a suprising amount of room down the left and behind. The isolation of 17 from the rest of the rest of the course means that it wont have much of an effect other holes and traffic/viewing

J

PARlance

bustercherry wrote: »

I'm assuming you have been to a tour event. You don't put a great big grandstand in the middle of a course blocking thoroughfare's and views of other holes for the fans not in the stadium hole.

You assume correct, I have.
Should I assume that you haven't played the course?

ForeRight

Slightly off topic:


I've never been to a European tour event so I was wondering what's the best thing to do for this. I have a 4 day full pass so should I walk all around the place, follow specific groups or sit at one hole for long periods of time.
How do you get access to this stadium seating area on the 17th.

Cheers.

big_drive

ForeRight wrote: »

Slightly off topic:


I've never been to a European tour event so I was wondering what's the best thing to do for this. I have a 4 day full pass so should I walk all around the place, follow specific groups or sit at one hole for long periods of time.
How do you get access to this stadium seating area on the 17th.

Cheers.

I'd advise doing all those things. I've been last 4 years and that's what I do. Usually pick a good par 3 and spend time there watching the tee shots. Might follow a group for a few holes if there's a particular player I'm interested in. It's a great day out once the weather is good!

ForeRight

big_drive wrote: »

I'd advise doing all those things. I've been last 4 years and that's what I do. Usually pick a good par 3 and spend time there watching the tee shots. Might follow a group for a few holes if there's a particular player I'm interested in. It's a great day out once the weather is good!

Thanks ill do that so.

Ilik Urgee

ForeRight wrote: »

Thanks ill do that so.

From my own experience I'd be going with a max of one other person(preferably golfer). Got lamped in Adare last year with unwanteds and got to see **** all golf I wanted to see. Also bring sunglasses if it's sunny...

ForeRight

Ilik Urgee wrote: »

From my own experience I'd be going with a max of one other person(preferably golfer). Got lamped in Adare last year with unwanteds and got to see **** all golf I wanted to see. Also bring sunglasses if it's sunny...

Just me and the old man going so we will be grand.

Rikand

following a group is the way to go - I found waiting at holes to be painfully boring.

bustercherry

Golfgraffix wrote: »

Great looking graphic

Not sure if i am allowed post the flyby video but if I can i will. There is a suprising amount of room down the left and behind. The isolation of 17 from the rest of the rest of the course means that it wont have much of an effect other holes and traffic/viewing

J

Exactly. Tell that to AJ I haven't a clue but I once played the course. It's the only place it could be done on the course; and that's a direct quote from the European tour guys.

RikkFlair

ForeRight wrote: »

Slightly off topic:


I've never been to a European tour event so I was wondering what's the best thing to do for this. I have a 4 day full pass so should I walk all around the place, follow specific groups or sit at one hole for long periods of time.
How do you get access to this stadium seating area on the 17th.

Cheers.

Been at a few Irish Opens and what I do is get there early and first follow a group around the course, ideally maybe an Irish guy who's a bit down the field so wouldn't have a massive crowd so you get to see all the course. I remember following Gary Murphy round at Adare a few years back, and Des Smyth a few years before that at Fota Island.

Then I'd park myself behind a green, maybe 16th 17th or 18th to see a lot of groups going through. I remember at Killarney in 2010 one of the 18th green grandstands was free to get into, but the one nearer the green was pre booked.

After all that I'd make sure to partake of a €6 hotdog somewhere

ssbob

What we have done in the past is try to get there early and watch some of the early groups teeing off then maybe follow one group around for most of their round before coming back for the marquee groups..........Watched Gmac, Richard Green and Simon Dyson in Killarney two years ago, GMAC played the best on the day but Dyson went on to win with Green second, I think between them they were -13 on the day. Rory was a group ahead so got to watch a lot of his shots aswell.

PARlance

ssbob wrote: »

What we have done in the past is try to get there early and watch some of the early groups teeing off then maybe follow one group around for most of their round before coming back for the marquee groups..........Watched Gmac, Richard Green and Simon Dyson in Killarney two years ago, GMAC played the best on the day but Dyson went on to win with Green second, I think between them they were -13 on the day. Rory was a group ahead so got to watch a lot of his shots aswell.

Ended up on the p*ss with Gmac the previous year in Killarney on the Sunday night.
Well... "on the p*ss" might be pushing it but a few pints and bit of craic.
Some locals thought I was part of his group. Free drinks for the night
The more I told them that I wasn't part of his gang the more and more they thought I was, once the shots started coming I said f this and told them all about the crazy parties we had after he won the US Open

One word of warning to anyone going for the first time, don't try to do too much.
I found that I was rushing around trying to following this group, that group etc.
Being used to watching the events on TV, where you get the overall picture, going to a live event is very different. Just enjoy the experience of the golf in front of you rather than putting too much pressure on following leader, people making a move etc.

What I'm thinking of doing is picking a group that I'll follow but only following them from the 7th onward.
I'll get to the Par 3 7th well in advance and watch 10 or so groups go through it, then when my group arrives, tag along for the rest of the round.
Once they're finished I plan to go back to 16 or 17 to watch another few groups come through.

GreeBo

I'd strongly recommend heading out to the practice ground for a few hours, its great to get a perfect view at the lads hitting all the shots and you dont need to move at all

Trampas

GreeBo wrote: »

I'd strongly recommend heading out to the practice ground for a few hours, its great to get a perfect view at the lads hitting all the shots and you dont need to move at all

I was going to say the same. driving range is great place to watch them play.

Arsenium

This is a bit off topic but I was just wondering if the field has been finalised yet?
What about club pro's? Any of them competing?

And are amateurs invited to the Irish Open? If so has it been decided who will play?

Update: Just checked the GUI site and see Gavin Moynihan, Kevin Phelan and Reeve Whitson are the invites. Any one know how they are chosen?

Rippeditup

I can't wait for this...

I have tickets for each of the days so Sunday up there could be great fun.

big_drive

Has anyone received their tickets in the post yet?

From memory is it usually the week before when they arrive, I can't remember properly

Arsenium

big_drive wrote: »

Has anyone received their tickets in the post yet?

From memory is it usually the week before when they arrive, I can't remember properly

No.

Arsenium

Arsenium wrote: »

No.

Bit premature there or impeccable timing, not sure which. Just got a mail from the ticket people saying the tickets have been dispatched today :-)

Sun shining, almost a bank holiday weekend and the golf tickets on the way. Could be worse :-)

Golfgraffix

A video of the proposed stand

https://vimeo.com/67320445

J

Benny Cake

RikkFlair wrote: »

Been at a few Irish Opens and what I do is get there early and first follow a group around the course, ideally maybe an Irish guy who's a bit down the field so wouldn't have a massive crowd so you get to see all the course. I remember following Gary Murphy round at Adare a few years back, and Des Smyth a few years before that at Fota Island.

Then I'd park myself behind a green, maybe 16th 17th or 18th to see a lot of groups going through. I remember at Killarney in 2010 one of the 18th green grandstands was free to get into, but the one nearer the green was pre booked.

After all that I'd make sure to partake of a €6 hotdog somewhere

Slightly off topic but just wondering if there's on course coverage of events around the course. I know they do it during the British open and it makes following what's going on much easier...

blockic

Benny Cake wrote: »

Slightly off topic but just wondering if there's on course coverage of events around the course. I know they do it during the British open and it makes following what's going on much easier...

Not in the last couple of Irish Opens I've been at. But I think they are having a big screen with coverage on the 17th this year with the stand.

FixdePitchmark

Golfgraffix wrote: »

A video of the proposed stand

https://vimeo.com/67320445

J

Lads is it not just a stand with hype. There was one of them at Irish opens in the 90s

Ilik Urgee

It looks like it suits TV better than on-course.Wonder what Broadcasters outside of RTE are doing it?

ssbob

Ilik Urgee wrote: »

It looks like it suits TV better than on-course.Wonder what Broadcasters outside of RTE are doing it?

Its surely being covered by Sky.

IanVW

Is the practice area near the golf course itself? I remember in Killarney is was a long walk from the actual 1st tee?

djivide_

IanVW wrote: »

Is the practice area near the golf course itself? I remember in Killarney is was a long walk from the actual 1st tee?

~300m walk from practice area to the first tee box.

Arsenium

Tickets arrived yesterday. Happy days :-)

Felexicon

Due to work I'm only getting to go down on the Wednesday or Thursday. Really looking forward to it as I haven't been to an event since the K Club was hosting the European Open back in the day.
It really is a great day out

Rippeditup

Are many going down?

I have tickets for the week but my mates are starting to pull out so a bit unsure at the moment.

Jimdagym

Rippeditup wrote: »

Are many going down?

I have tickets for the week but my mates are starting to pull out so a bit unsure at the moment.

Gonna bring the young lads (5&4) down for the pro-am. Probably won't make a competition day. I'll see what the field is like.