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People of Distinction who were either born in or lived part of their life in Clonmel.

  • 27-05-2013 8:38pm
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    I am inspired to open this thread after reading An Appreciation in today's Irish Times (27th.May) of a person I never heard of before now, maybe some members can give more detail.

    Judge Andrew Phelan.
    Born: Clonmel........July 25th. 1923.
    Died in his home Chiswick, London.....March 3rd. 2013.
    Judge, Sailor and Author of "Ireland From The Sea"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Tommy O'Brien
    Bridget Reilly ( wife of Sidney Reilly )
    See Clonmel in Wikipedia for others.


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    Journalists..........Broadcasters.

    Sean Mac Reamoinn.........RTE
    Andy O'Mahony.....RTE
    John Skehan...........RTE
    Vincent Hanly............RTE
    Pat Leahy............current Political editor of Sunday Business Post.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Calum Iain Maclean lived there for a bit in 1944


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    Calum Iain Maclean lived there for a bit in 1944

    And so he did:

    At the outbreak of the Second World War, Maclean's studies came to a temporary halt and he had to cast around for some other means of livelihood. At first he worked in a factory in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary (Wiki)

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    Charles Bianconi.

    The River Suir had been made navigable to Clonmel from 1760 when completion of the River Suir Navigation in the 19th century allowed large vessels to reach the town's quays. Charles Bianconi, onetime mayor of Clonmel, ran his pioneering public transport system of horse-drawn carriages from Clonmel.

    He was also Mayor of Clonmel at one time.

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    Laurence Sterne


    Laurence Sterne was born 24 November 1713 in Clonmel, County Tipperary. His father, Roger Sterne, was an Ensign in a British regiment recently returned from Dunkirk. Roger's regiment was disbanded on the day of Sterne’s birth, and within six months the family had returned to Yorkshire in northern England. In July 1715, the family moved back to Ireland, having "decamped with Bag & Baggage for Dublin"


    Laurence Sterne (24 November 1713 – 18 March 1768) was an Anglo-Irish novelist and an Anglican clergyman. He is best known for his novels The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman, and A Sentimental Journey Through France and Italy; but he also published many sermons, wrote memoirs, and was involved in local politics. Sterne died in London after years of fighting consumption.

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    Frank Patterson

    Frank Patterson, born and spent all of his early life in Clonmel, (October 5, 1938 - June 10, 2000) was an internationally renowned Irish tenor following in the tradition of singers such as Count John McCormack and Josef Locke. He was known as "Ireland's Golden Tenor".

    Patterson appeared in several films, starting with The Dead (1987), an adaptation of a story by James Joyce, which was directed by John Huston and starred his daughter Anjelica Huston. Patterson played Bartell D'Arcy, the character who sings The Lass of Aughrim.[7]

    Patterson is heard twice in the Coen brothers film Millers Crossing (1990), in which he sings both Danny Boy and Goodnight Sweetheart.[8] In 1996 he appeared as "Tenor in Restaurant" in Neil Jordan's Michael Collins, singing Macushla.[9] A recording of him singing the Irish traditional Dan Tucker also appeared in Martin Scorsese's Gangs of New York (2002).[10]

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    George Burrows

    George Burrows was born in East Durham on July 5th 1803, son of Thomas Burrows a Chaplin in the North West Regiment, and Anne Preferment a Norfolk girl of some beauty who had been an actress.Burrows spent his first 13 years travelling mainly in Scotland and Ireland with the Regiment. It was in these years he made his acquaintance with the Gypsies that were to become almost an obsession with him.In 1815 The Regiment left Cork and moved to Clonmel, where the family took up residence in O’Connell Street. George was sent to a local Grammar school in Irishtown to learn Greek.

    He published his second book “Wild Wales” in which he mentioned Clonmel “The best salmon in the world is caught in the Suir river, a river that flows past the beautiful town of Clonmel in Ireland. After this George wrote less and less. His wife died in 1869 and he spent the last years of his life in Oulten Broad rather hermit like. He died alone on July 26th 1881.

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    More on Reilly......................Few people in Clonmel would be aware off.

    This is interesting an guy, may have taken on the name of Reilly after a Clonmel woman named Bridget Reilly.

    Sidney George Reilly, (c. 24 March 1873 – 5 November 1925), famously known as the Ace of Spies, was a Jewish Russian-born adventurer and secret agent employed by Scotland Yard, the British Secret Service Bureau and later the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS). He is alleged to have spied for at least four nations. His notoriety during the 1920s was created in part by his friend, British diplomat and journalist Sir Robert Bruce Lockhart, who publicized their thwarted operation to overthrow the Bolshevik regime in 1918.

    Reilly maintained his charade of being a British subject born in Clonmel, Ireland, and would not reveal any intelligence matters. While facing such daily interrogation,

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    TOMMY O’BRIEN

    Tommy O’Brien 1905 – 1988 was a celebrated radio broadcaster and one of the Countries greatest authorities in Classical Music and Opera. He was educated in clonmel followed by a Scholarship to the Ring College in County Waterford. His first job was as a junior reporter for the Clonmel Chronicle, followed by a move to the Nationalist in the 1930’s. He became Editor of the Nationalist in 1940, a position he held until 1953.

    His introduction to broadcasting came in the 1940’s, with a piece written by him on Clonmel. His natural method of presentation led to more radio work, his opening line was always, “Good Evening, Listeners”. His programme was called “Tommy O’Brien and his Music”, until 1968, when the format was changed to half his choice and half listeners requests. This programme was called “Your Choice and Mine” and ran until the early 1980’s.

    I also believe that Tommy was All Ireland billiard champion at one stage.

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    Mícheál Ó Súilleabháin

    Born in Clonmel where his parents had a small grocers shop in Mitchel Street.


    Mícheál Ó Súilleabháin is an Irish musician. As a pianist, composer, recording artist and academic, he holds the Professorship of Music at the Irish World Music Academy of Music and Dance which he founded at the University of Limerick. His sons are known as Irish pop group size2shoes and his former wife is Irish chant singer Nóirín Ní Riain, with whom he has collaborated. He was awarded an honorary D.Mus from the National University of Ireland at his alma mater University College Cork in 2004. He has recorded extensively with the Irish Chamber Orchestra.

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    DR PAT O’CALLAGHAN

    Pat O’Callaghan 1906 – 1991, adopted Clonmel as his home town after taking up a position as Assistant Medical Officer in Clonmel District Mental Hospital in 1931. He became the first Irishman to win an Olympic Gold Medal for hammer throwing in Theb Amsterdam Olympics of 1928, which he successfully defended four years later, in Los Angeles. In 1928, the Athletes paid their own way to the Games, but in 1932 sponsorship from Guinness and Church Gate Collections helped with this cost. An obstacle to his participation came from his Employers, who wanted him to pay for his replacement during his absence! After some discussion, they had a change of heart and allowed him three months paid leave. In those Games, Bob Tisdall won Gold for Ireland in the 400 yards hurdle, while Dr Pat, as he was affectionatley known, successfully defended his Gold Medal, becoming the only Irishman to do so! He and Bob Tisdall received a heroes welcome home with crowds of hundreds of thousands to greet them on their arrival at Dun Laoghaire. Due to a political dispute, Dr Pat was unable to defend his title for a second time in Berlin. During a competition in Mallow in 1938, Dr Pat’s hammer struck and fatally injured a young boy. Although there was no fault on Dr Pat’s part, he retired from competitive athletics shortly after. In Clonmel, he built a reputation as a brilliant Doctor and served his patients diligently until his retirement in 1984. He maintained a strong interest in all athletics and sports and served on many committees. He was regarded as the people’s champion and a true sporting legend.

    It is well known that he used to say that he kept his Olympic medals somewhere in a biscuit tin, I think it was in his hallway, I visited him once or twice in his surgery, he was indeed a very friendly and informal man and took a great in interest in the local GAA football club, Clonmel Commercials. His son Pat who died at a very young age played for the club.

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    Mick, Paddy and Jackie Delahunty(brothers) of the Mick Del Orchestra.


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    More on Mick Delahunty and his brothers.

    Mick Delahunty, or Mick Del as he was widely known, was a band leader from the early 1940’s until his reluctant retirement just before his death in 1992. He was born in 1915 and grew up in the Old Bridge. At age 10 he joined the local C.J. Kickham Fife and Drum band. After playing in a small local band, at the age of 18 he started his own band, The Harmony Band and played for the first time in the Abbey Hall, Cahir. In 1942 he left his day job in Burkes Bacon and went on the road with the band full time. He was joined in the band by his two brothers, Jackie on drums and Paddy on bass. For the first few years, he only played locally. After the war, he started to play further afield, travelling as far as Killarney. His main influence was Glen Millar. He did concerts in America and Canada in the 1950’s. From early 1970, he scaled back on touring and most of his business was conducted in and around Clonmel and South Tipperary.

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    Theo English. Hurler.Marfield, Clonmel.

    Theo English (born July, 1930 in Marlfield, Clonmel, County Tipperary) is a former Irish sports person. He played hurling with his local club Marlfield GAA and was a member of the Tipperary senior inter-county team in the 1950s and 1960s. He is widely regarded as one of Tipperary’s greatest-ever hurlers.[1][2]

    5 All Ireland Senior Medals
    6 Munster Championships

    In retirement from playing English continued his involvement on the inter-county scene as a selector. He was a key member of the backroom team when Tipperary won both Munster and All-Ireland titles in 1971. In the 1980s English served as a selector under Babs Keating. Together with former player Donie Nealon they guided Tipp to three successive Munster titles and an All-Ireland title in 1989.

    In 2000 English was chosen, by popular opinion, to partner Mick Roche at midfield on the Tipperary Hurling Team of the Century.

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    WILLIAM TINSLEY

    William Tinsley 1804 – 1885, was an Irish architect, born in Clonmel. He entered the family business while in his teens. In 1825, after the death of his father, he took over the business and received commissions from wealthy local landowners. After the Famine, due to the decline in business, he emigrated to USA with his wife and children. They settled in Cincinatti and he was very successful as an architect of many public buildings. He died in America and is buried in Indianapolis.

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    William Magner

    WILLIAM MAGNER.............Irish Bulmers .........and..........Magners Cider.

    Magners is a brand of cider produced in County Tipperary by the C & C Group. The cider was originally produced as Bulmers and continues to be sold under that name in Ireland. Commercial cider production was started in Clonmel in 1935, by local man William Magner. Magner bought the orchard from a Mr Phelan from Clonmel. Magner quickly established a successful business. In 1937 he joined forces with the English cider-makers HP Bulmer and Company. Dowds Lane in Clonmel was the location of this burgeoning enterprise. In 1949 Magner withdrew from the business and the Bulmers name came to the fore. However H.P. Bulmer maintained international rights to the Bulmers trade mark, which prevented the Irish company exporting the brand from Ireland. In 1964 the company name was changed to Showerings (Ireland) Ltd. Soon after, the company moved its main processing operations to a new complex at Annerville, five kilometres from the centre of Clonmel. The success of Bulmers cider in Ireland led to the development of the Magners brand to market the company’s cider outside of Ireland. The concept was originally developed by Stuart Wootten, who argued that the international growth of Irish pubs provided a natural market for an indigenous Irish drink such as Magners. The label is identical to Bulmers, except for the name.

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    Franz Liszt lived at least one night of his life in Clonmel. Travelling from Cork to Dublin, he was committed to giving a performance in Clonmel. Only ten or twelve people turned up for his concert, and he retired from the auditorium to an upstairs drawing room and performed for his tiny audience there. That should merit an entry in the Guinness Book of Records.


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    More on Franz Liszt

    Musicians take heart even Franz Liszt had to play to an almost empty inn in Clonmel


    Alan Walker - 1987 - Preview - More editions
    In Ireland, at the little market town of Clonmel, Liszt played on a small Tompkinson upright which rattled and shook as he performed. Most of those instruments had a restricted compass and a delicate tone best suited to the salon; their light ...

    But in 1840, Liszt played before the queen, having installed Marie and the three children at Richmond. He played in Reading Town Hall and in Edinburgh. He even performed in a tiny inn at Clonmel, about 100 miles south west of Dublin.58 ...

    in Hull, Liszt accompanied Parry in the latter's poem, The Inchcape Bell, which began: The storm had passed, and the ... A foray to Clonmel on 2 January 1841 was unsuccessful as no tickets for the concert had been sold prior to the event.

    After a visit to Cork Liszt played to what must have been his smallest audience at a public concert in the little country town of Clonmel. They traveled through the night from Cork and arrived to find the concert had been forgotten! Parry records: ...

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    Adi Roche


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    Theo English, winner of 5 All Ireland medals, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1965.


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    Adi Roche......More from Wiki.

    Adi Roche (born 1957, and received her early education in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Ireland) is a campaigner for peace, humanitarian aid, and education. She is the chief executive of Irish-based charity Chernobyl Children International, and in November 2010 received the Health Award at the World of Children Awards ceremony.

    Adi Roche has spent her life, since 1977, campaigning for and publicly active in issues relating to the environment, peace and justice. Having worked for a number of years in the Irish national airline as an air stewardess, Aer Lingus, Adi took redundancy to work full-time as a volunteer for the Irish Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. She devised a Peace Education Programme and delivered it in over fifty schools throughout Ireland. In 1990 she became the first Irish woman elected to the Board of Directors of the International Peace Bureau [IPB] in Geneva

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    John Sutton educated in Clonmel High School and High School Primary School.

    John Sutton (born 10 August 1948) is the Sir John Hicks Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics.

    Sutton received his undergraduate education at University College Dublin, a graduate degree from Trinity College Dublin, and earned his Ph.D. at University of Sheffield. He taught at the University of Sheffield before joining LSE in 1977. He has been a Visiting Associate Professor at Tokyo University, a Marvin Bower Fellow at the Harvard Business School, and a Visiting Professor of Economics at Harvard University, and at the Graduate School of Business, University of Chicago.

    Sutton was also President of the Royal Economic Society from 2004 to 2007.[2] He is a Foreign Honorary Member of the American Economic Association and a member of Executive and Supervisory Committee at CERGE-EI in Prague.

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    Bonaventure Baron

    Bonaventure Baron, O.F.M., (1610 – 18 March 1696) was a distinguished Irish Franciscan friar who was a noted theologian, philosopher, teacher and writer of Latin prose and verse.

    He was born at Clonmel in County Tipperary, and died at Rome. His mother was a sister of the well-known Franciscan Luke Wadding, and his brother Geoffrey Baron acted for the Irish Confederates in their negotiations with the continental rulers. He himself joined the Franciscan community of Clonmel, pursued his studies in philosophy at the University of Leuven in Flanders.

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    Richard Mulcahy Fine Gael T.D elected to serve the constituency of South Tipperary in 1948. Minister for Education. Father of renowned cardiologist Risteard Mulcahy. Mulcahy Park Clonmel is named after him.

    Richard James Mulcahy (10 May 1886 – 16 December 1971) was an Irish politician, Army General and Commander-in-chief, Leader of Fine Gael and Cabinet minister. He fought in the 1916 Easter Rising, served as Chief of Staff of the Irish Republican Army during the War of Independence and became commander of the pro-treaty forces in the Irish Civil War after the death of Michael Collins.

    Mulcahy was returned again to the 12th Dáil as TD for Tipperary at the 1944 general election. Mulcahy was faced with the task of reviving a party that had been out of office since 1932.

    Mulcahy went on to serve as Minister for Education from 1948 until 1951. Another coalition government came to power at the 1954 election, with Mulcahy once again stepping aside to become Minister for Education in the Second Inter-Party Government. The government fell in 1957, but Mulcahy remained as Fine Gael leader until October 1959. In October 1960 he told his Tipperary constituents that he did not intend to contest the next election.

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    Bishop William Egan.

    It was a fortunate day for the Catholics of Waterford when, in 1772, Bishop William Egan (who lived in Clonmel) transferred Thomas Hearn, a brilliant and dedicated priest, from the parish of Mothel to Waterford.

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    If you can go ot as far as Fethard, you might include Tim Vigors.
    He was born in England but his family owned Tullamaine Stud in Fethard.

    He joined the RAF and flew Spifires from Hornchurch during the Battle Of Britain (his Spitfire had a tricolour painted on it), and shot down six enemy aircraft,earning the DFC.

    Transferred to the far east his squadron was scrambled too late to defend the Royal Navy ships Prince Of Wales and Repulse and arrived on scene only to witness their final destruction at the hands of the Japanese.

    After an exteremly eventful post war career in aviation and racehorse breeding he inherited his family's stud farm, now called Coolmore, near Fethard.He sold a share to Vincent O'Brien and brought in John Magnier to run Coolmore.The rest is history.

    He was married four times, retired to live in Spain and died in 2003 aged 82.


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    Tim Vigors, who has died aged 82, served as a fighter pilot in the Battle of Britain and in the Far East before embarking on a successful and flamboyant career as a bloodstock agent.

    The scion of a long line of Anglo-Irish landowners, Vigors spent much of his youth in England; but he never lost his sense of Irishness, and had his country's tricolour painted on the nose of his Spitfire. Despite his evident heroism, he claimed never to have been "possessed of that uncaring patriotism which caused so many young Englishmen . . . unselfishly to lay down their lives for their country".

    Timothy Ashmead Vigors was born at Hatfield, Hertforshire, on March 22 1921. His father was originally a stockbroker, but the family had been landowners in Co Carlow for centuries, and Tim's grandfather was clearly something of a rake: when his wife caught him in bed with a maid, he attempted to excuse himself thus: "If one is going to appreciate Chateau Lafitte, my dear, one must occasionally have a glass of vin ordinaire."

    Tim was brought up near Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire. Aged eight, he was hunting with the Mendip when his pony hit the top of a stone wall and turned a somersault: "Unfortunately, I had landed with my face on a jagged stone," he recalled. "Lots of blood. My mother jumped off her horse, threw me back on my pony with the words: 'On, on Tim!' "

    After leaving Eton, Tim enrolled in January 1939 as a cadet at RAF Cranwell - his godmother, an air enthusiast, had taken him flying, and he had immediately caught the bug. In February 1940 he joined 222 Squadron at Duxford, flying Spitfires.

    One of Vigors's engaging characteristics was his frankness about what it meant to be a raw young pilot during the Battle of Britain. He later reminisced about how, at 4 am on May 29, he had bade farewell to his lurcher, Snipe, and then accompanied 10 other pilots to receive instructions from their commander, Squadron Leader "Tubby" Mermagen, who told them that they were to head for Dunkirk.

    "I walked over to my aircraft to make sure everything was in order. My mouth was dry and for the first time in my life I understood the meaning of the expression 'taste of fear'. I suddenly realised that the moment had arrived . . . Within an hour I could be battling for my life . . . Up until now it had all somehow been a game, like a Biggles book where the heroes always survived the battles and it was generally only the baddies who got the chop. I knew I had somehow to control this fear and not show it to my fellow pilots."

    When he reached the coast of France, and came under fire from an Me 109, his first reaction was "extreme fear which temporarily froze my ability to think. This was quickly replaced by an overwhelming desire for self-preservation". He survived the encounter, and the next day shot down an Me 109, feeling the same satisfaction as on the occasion when, on the family estate at Clonmel, he had "pulled down a high-flying pigeon flashing across the evening sky with the wind up his tail". Two days later, also over Dunkirk, he shot down his first Heinkel 111.

    On the night of June 19 1940 Vigors returned from a night out somewhat the worse for wear for drink, and retired to bed at his base at Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire. When a Tannoy message called for a volunteer to intercept German aircraft which had crossed the coast, Vigors took to the air wearing his scarlet pyjamas under a green silk dressing-gown. He shot down another Heinkel.

    Flying from Hornchurch, Essex, 222 suffered heavy casualties during the summer of 1940, and Vigors was twice forced to crash land his damaged Spitfire. But his successes over the Thames Estuary mounted, and by the end of September he had destroyed at least six enemy aircraft with a further six probables. In October 1940 he was awarded the DFC.

    On October 30 Vigors destroyed two Me 109s over Kent, but any satisfaction was dissipated by the loss, in the same action, of his fellow pilot and close friend, Hilary Edridge. "A wave of misery swept over me," Vigors recalled. "I just couldn't get my mind to accept it . . . I started to cry."

    Two months later he was posted to Singapore, joining 243 Squadron as a flight commander. A year later he took temporary command of 453 (RAAF) Squadron, and immediately became involved in one of the most distressing events of his RAF career.

    On the afternoon of December 8 1941, the Royal Navy's Force Z - which included the battleships Repulse and Prince of Wales - sailed north from Singapore to provide support against possible Japanese landings at Singora. 453 had been designated the Fleet Defence Squadron, and Vigors had established radio procedures with Prince of Wales. Despite this, Admiral Phillips, the commander of Force Z, maintained radio silence and did not call for support. On hearing of Japanese landings at Kuantan, Phillips changed his plan and, still maintaining radio silence, altered course. In the meantime, Japanese reconnaissance aircraft had located Force Z.

    When an attack against the ships appeared imminent, Phillips broke radio silence on December 10, and Vigors finally got the order to scramble his 11 Buffaloes. But it was too late: when he arrived, Repulse had gone down, Prince of Wales was sinking, and there was no sign of Japanese aircraft. All Vigors could do was to fly over the survivors in the water and provide support for the rescuing destroyers. He always felt bitter about the failure of the naval forces to call for his assistance.

    After this, Vigors led his squadron to northern Malaya. On December 13 1941 he had just landed at Butterworth when Japanese aircraft arrived to attack the airfield, and he ordered his six pilots to take off immediately to intercept the bombers. He attacked a large formation, and some reports claimed that Vigors hit three bombers in the melee. Eventually, his Buffalo was hit in the petrol tank and he was forced to bale out. Although repeatedly attacked by Japanese aircraft as he swung below his parachute, Vigors managed to land in the mountains near Penang.

    His position was not promising - he was severely burned and a bullet had passed through his left thigh - but he was found by two Malays, who carried him down the mountain to safety.

    After being evacuated to India, Vigors held a series of flying training appointments before assuming command of RAF Yelahanka, responsible for converting Hurricane pilots to the Thunderbolt ground-attack fighter. He finally returned to England in 1945, taking part in the fly-past for the anniversary of the Battle of Britain on September 15. He retired from the RAF in November 1946 as a wing commander.

    Vigors began civilian life by setting up a photographic agency in Ireland, but then joined the bloodstock auctioneers Goffs. In 1951 he left to start his own bloodstock agency, quickly establishing a reputation for flamboyance: when commuting between Ireland and America, he would hire a super-constellation from Aer Lingus, using the back half as his bedroom and the front as his office.

    As one of the first people to foresee a future for private aviation, Vigors also set up, in the late 1950s, a firm specialising in private and executive aircraft. Based at Kidlington, near Oxford, he had the agency for Piper aircraft. When his firm was taken over by CSE Aviation, Vigors returned to the bloodstock business.

    He was a considerable player in this market. In 1964 he broke a 10-year record for Newmarket's December sales when he bought Chandelier for 37,000 guineas. Two years later, again at Newmarket, he paid a record 31,000 guineas, on behalf of an international partnership, for a yearling colt by Charlottesville. He also bought Glad Rags and Fleet, who won the 1,000 Guineas in 1966 and 1967 respectively.

    Shortly before the war, Vigors's father had returned to Ireland, in 1945 buying a farm in Co Tipperary called Coolmore, where he trained racehorses. After inheriting Coolmore, Tim Vigors moved there in 1968, and it was he who began building it into the famous stud farm which it is today. Among the stallions standing there were Rheingold (the Arc de Triomphe winner whom Vigors bought in 1973 for more than £1 million), Thatch, Home Guard and King's Emperor.

    An old friend of Vincent O'Brien, in the mid-1970s Vigors sold two thirds of Coolmore to O'Brien and John Magnier, continuing to work in partnership with them and with Robert Sangster. Later, having sold his remaining interest to Magnier and O'Brien, Vigors went to live in Spain, although he continued to work in the bloodstock business. He returned to Newmarket 20 years ago, remaining there until his death on November 14.

    In 1990 Vigors became racing adviser to Cartier, and it was he who initiated the Cartier Racing Awards, given annually to mark the performances of individual racehorses.

    Tim Vigors was an outstanding ukelele-player, and knew how to enjoy himself. When he was 72 he described his ideal night out as "a Lloyd Webber musical, dinner at San Lorenzo and a bop with the lovely wife at Annabel's". When he was working on his (so far unpublished) memoirs, he confided to a friend, "It's so embarrassing - I'm only 21 and I've got to page 530."

    He married his first wife, Jan, with whom he had three daughters, in the North West Frontier Province of India in 1942. They divorced in 1968, and in the same year he married Atalanta Fairey, widow of the aircraft pioneer Richard Fairey; they had a son. In 1972 he married, thirdly, Heidi Bohlen, with whom he had two daughters. In 1982, in Las Vegas, he married his fourth wife, Diana Bryan, who survives him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Fr Nicholas Sheehy ( Fethard ) Penal Days martyr
    Robert McCarthy ( Newcastle ) Dean of St. Patrick's Cathedral 1999 - 2002
    Babs Keating ( Ballybacon )
    Johnny Moroney ( Clogheen ) rugby international
    Cardinal Browne and his brother Monsignor de Brun, mathematician and Irish language poet ( Grangemockler )
    MCBs :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 pahy


    I don't get it, I thought this thread was about people who were either born in or lived in Clonmel?
    so far we Newcastle ,Clogheen and Fethard mentioned twice surely we don't have to poach from our neighbours!! I'm surprised llyod Webber (Fethard) didn't get a mention!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    pahy wrote: »
    I don't get it, I thought this thread was about people who were either born in or lived in Clonmel?
    so far we Newcastle ,Clogheen and Fethard mentioned twice surely we don't have to poach from our neighbours!! I'm surprised llyod Webber (Fethard) didn't get a mention!
    Wait till we get to Lorrha :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    feargale wrote: »
    Wait till we get to Lorrha :)

    Who's frpm Lorrha ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 pahy


    Cilla Black?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Who's frpm Lorrha ??
    Ken Hogan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    feargale wrote: »
    Ken Hogan

    I thought that you were going to say Tony Reddin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Vizzy wrote: »
    I thought that you were going to say Tony Reddin

    Born in Galway, lived in Lorrha, now lives in Banagher, hale and hearty at 90 plus. Anyway, maybe OP should lay down geographical rules here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    feargale wrote: »
    Born in Galway, lived in Lorrha, now lives in Bangher, hale and hearty at 90 plus. Anyway, maybe OP should lay down geographical rules here.

    Good man.Bang on with the history.
    I was only talking to him last week.
    (He's my wifes uncle.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Vizzy wrote: »
    Good man.Bang on with the history.
    I was only talking to him last week.
    (He's my wifes uncle.)

    I met him not so many years ago. Nice man. Did he ever tell you about how he promised Jack Lynch a bye-election?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Christy Moore lived in Clonmel as he worked as worked as a bank official in the town before he launched his singing career.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    I remember reading notorious serial killers Shaw and Evans stayed in Clonmel for a while.
    Cant find any reference to it online though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Born in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Dónal de Buitléir was educated at CBS High School. From there he went to University College Dublin where he studied Economics, Politics and Statistics. Graduating with first class honours he joined the Revenue Commissioners where he spent seven years, progressing quickly through its ranks. During that time he returned to study at UCD, earning a Masters degree in Economic Science, again with first class honours, followed in 1980 by a PhD for which his doctoral thesis was entitled “The Equity of Irish personal Income Taxation”.

    Throughout the 1980s Donal served in a range of influential positions in the area of taxation policy and economic planning. From the Revenue Commissioners he joined the Department of Economic Planning and Development and then the Department of Finance. When the ground-breaking Commission on Taxation was established in 1980, his expertise in the area was identified and he was seconded to serve as Secretary. The Commission worked for five years, developing what was widely acclaimed as a blueprint for a more equitable tax system in Ireland. When its work was completed in 1985, he returned to the Revenue Commissioners as Superintending Inspector of Taxes for four years. During this time he published a number of highly influential papers and reports on issues relating to taxation policy and reform of the tax code in Ireland, as well as on other topics in the area of public administration.

    In 1989 Donal was head-hunted to join AIB as the Bank’s Head of Group Taxation and later General Manager of the Office of AIB’s Group Chief Executive. Since leaving the Civil Service to join the private sector, he has never ceased to be active in ‘public service’. He has been appointed as Chairman and as a Member of a number of review bodies established to advise government on matters of public policy - from local government reform; to development of enterprise strategy; to the integration of tax and social welfare system; and - of critical importance to higher education – a strategic review of post-secondary education and training. This latter report bluntly highlighted issues of non-completion rates at third level, under-representation of disadvantaged groups, and the strategic economic need for higher numbers at postgraduate level.

    He has tested himself in many ways throughout the many phases of his career, but there is one test he has faced every year since 1979. That personal challenge has been the Dublin City Marathon – or rather, every single Dublin City Marathon since the event started! It is a record that stands as testament to his commitment and determination, and one of which he can be extremely proud.

    Donal de Buitleir’s has accepted many challenges throughout his career and has merited many accolades. Today we honour him for his outstanding contribution, and we acknowledge him as a standard bearer for graduates here starting out on their own careers. Dublin Institute of Technology is privileged to award him this Doctorate of Philosophy, honoris causa
    President.

    Donal de Buitléir is a former President of the Statistical and Social Inquiry Society of Ireland and a former Chair of the Foundation for Fiscal Studies. He is an Eisenhower Fellow.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Born in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Dónal de Buitléir was educated at CBS High School. From there he went to University College Dublin where he studied Economics, Politics and Statistics. Graduating with first class honours he joined the Revenue Commissioners where he spent seven years, progressing quickly through its ranks. During that time he returned to study at UCD, earning a Masters degree in Economic Science, again with first class honours, followed in 1980 by a PhD for which his doctoral thesis was entitled “The Equity of Irish personal Income Taxation”.

    Throughout the 1980s Donal served in a range of influential positions in the area of taxation policy and economic planning. From the Revenue Commissioners he joined the Department of Economic Planning and Development and then the Department of Finance. When the ground-breaking Commission on Taxation was established in 1980, his expertise in the area was identified and he was seconded to serve as Secretary. The Commission worked for five years, developing what was widely acclaimed as a blueprint for a more equitable tax system in Ireland. When its work was completed in 1985, he returned to the Revenue Commissioners as Superintending Inspector of Taxes for four years. During this time he published a number of highly influential papers and reports on issues relating to taxation policy and reform of the tax code in Ireland, as well as on other topics in the area of public administration.

    In 1989 Donal was head-hunted to join AIB as the Bank’s Head of Group Taxation and later General Manager of the Office of AIB’s Group Chief Executive. Since leaving the Civil Service to join the private sector, he has never ceased to be active in ‘public service’. He has been appointed as Chairman and as a Member of a number of review bodies established to advise government on matters of public policy - from local government reform; to development of enterprise strategy; to the integration of tax and social welfare system; and - of critical importance to higher education – a strategic review of post-secondary education and training. This latter report bluntly highlighted issues of non-completion rates at third level, under-representation of disadvantaged groups, and the strategic economic need for higher numbers at postgraduate level.

    He has tested himself in many ways throughout the many phases of his career, but there is one test he has faced every year since 1979. That personal challenge has been the Dublin City Marathon – or rather, every single Dublin City Marathon since the event started! It is a record that stands as testament to his commitment and determination, and one of which he can be extremely proud.

    Donal de Buitleir’s has accepted many challenges throughout his career and has merited many accolades. Today we honour him for his outstanding contribution, and we acknowledge him as a standard bearer for graduates here starting out on their own careers. Dublin Institute of Technology is privileged to award him this Doctorate of Philosophy, honoris causa
    President.

    Donal de Buitléir is a former President of the Statistical and Social Inquiry Society of Ireland and a former Chair of the Foundation for Fiscal Studies. He is an Eisenhower Fellow.

    Nice "cut & paste"!!

    Google is great eh ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Dr. Maria Eithne McNamara.

    Young Clonmel lady who is currently a professor in Geology in University College, Cork. Heard her being interviewed last night on BBC World Service

    http://research.ucc.ie/profiles/D026/mariamcnamara

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Dr. John Rossiter from Clonmel received a prestigious award from PAIRO (Professional Association of Internes and Residents of Ontario) for the excellence of his contribution to post graduate education on medicine, at a recent reception in Ontario, Canada.


    He is a Consultant Neuropathologist and Director of Autopsy Services in the Department of Molecular Medicine at Kingston General Hospital. Dr. Rossiter is also an Associate Professor in the School of Medicine, Queen’s University. His academic interests include developmental neuropathology and traumatic brain injury. The award was accompanied by a generous donation to Dr. Rossiter’s charity of choice.

    He is son of John and Margaret Rossiter of Powerstown Road, Clonmel and received his early education in SS Peter and Paul’s CBS and the High School, Clonmel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭hblock21


    Thomas Dunne born in Clonmel 1849. Sheriff of New York City. Died 1905.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Seemingly he was known in New York as Thomas J Dunn.

    The link is to an article published at the time of his death, in the New York Times dated 13th. December 1905. It's an interesting article.


    http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F5091EFA3F5912738DDDAA0994DA415B858CF1D3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Raymond Chandler's 1939 novel The Big Sleep, features Rusty Regan as a main character: "A big curly-headed Irishman from Clonmel, with sad eyes and a smile as wide as Wilshire Boulevard."[30]

    Above info taken from Wikipedia.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    Count Arthur John Moore (1849 – 5 January 1904) was a wealthy Irish Catholic and nationalist politician

    Moore financed the building of Ferryhouse Industrial School for Catholic boys near Clonmel. In 1884 he handed it over to the charge of the Rosminian Order to be run by them.

    Moore was elected at the 1874 general election as a Home Rule League MP for Clonmel, holding the seat in the Parliament of the United Kingdom until the constituency's abolition for the 1885 general election.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭touts


    Xenophile wrote: »
    Born in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Dónal de Buitléir was educated at CBS High School. From there he went to University College Dublin where he studied Economics, Politics and Statistics. Graduating with first class honours he joined the Revenue Commissioners where he spent seven years, progressing quickly through its ranks. During that time he returned to study at UCD, earning a Masters degree in Economic Science, again with first class honours, followed in 1980 by a PhD for which his doctoral thesis was entitled “The Equity of Irish personal Income Taxation”.

    Throughout the 1980s Donal served in a range of influential positions in the area of taxation policy and economic planning. From the Revenue Commissioners he joined the Department of Economic Planning and Development and then the Department of Finance. When the ground-breaking Commission on Taxation was established in 1980, his expertise in the area was identified and he was seconded to serve as Secretary. The Commission worked for five years, developing what was widely acclaimed as a blueprint for a more equitable tax system in Ireland. When its work was completed in 1985, he returned to the Revenue Commissioners as Superintending Inspector of Taxes for four years. During this time he published a number of highly influential papers and reports on issues relating to taxation policy and reform of the tax code in Ireland, as well as on other topics in the area of public administration.

    In 1989 Donal was head-hunted to join AIB as the Bank’s Head of Group Taxation and later General Manager of the Office of AIB’s Group Chief Executive. Since leaving the Civil Service to join the private sector, he has never ceased to be active in ‘public service’. He has been appointed as Chairman and as a Member of a number of review bodies established to advise government on matters of public policy - from local government reform; to development of enterprise strategy; to the integration of tax and social welfare system; and - of critical importance to higher education – a strategic review of post-secondary education and training. This latter report bluntly highlighted issues of non-completion rates at third level, under-representation of disadvantaged groups, and the strategic economic need for higher numbers at postgraduate level.

    He has tested himself in many ways throughout the many phases of his career, but there is one test he has faced every year since 1979. That personal challenge has been the Dublin City Marathon – or rather, every single Dublin City Marathon since the event started! It is a record that stands as testament to his commitment and determination, and one of which he can be extremely proud.

    Donal de Buitleir’s has accepted many challenges throughout his career and has merited many accolades. Today we honour him for his outstanding contribution, and we acknowledge him as a standard bearer for graduates here starting out on their own careers. Dublin Institute of Technology is privileged to award him this Doctorate of Philosophy, honoris causa
    President.

    Donal de Buitléir is a former President of the Statistical and Social Inquiry Society of Ireland and a former Chair of the Foundation for Fiscal Studies. He is an Eisenhower Fellow.

    A bloke who worked for Revenue and AIB.... Where's the Distinction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    I had a look on the Web where there are some scattered references to C J Boland, which mention that he was born in Clonmel, though no date or details, that his parents were Master and Matron (to give them their proper titles!) of the Clonmel Workhouse, that he himself made a career in the Civil Service and became Valuation Commissioner, if I remember it rightly, in Dublin. He died in 1918. There was an obituary to him in an Irish literary magazine of the time, with a copy still in the National Library but not accessible online. Another reference seemed to suggest that he was an ancestor of the modern poet, Eavan Boland & her father Frederick who was an Irish diplomat at the UN.

    My thanks to laurencebryan for providing the above information on C J Boland.

    C J Boland is best known for this poem. Some of his other work may be found in "My Clonmel Scrap Book" by James White.

    THE TWO TRAVELLERS

    All over the world, the traveller said,
    In my peregrination’s I’ve been;
    And there’s nothing remarkable, living or dead,
    But these eyes of mine have seen.

    From the land of the ape and the marmoset,
    To the tents of the Fellaheen”
    Said the other, I’ll lay you an even bet
    You were never in Farranalleen.”

    I’ve hunted in woods near Seringapatam,
    And sailed in the Polar Seas,
    I fished for a week in the Gulf of Siam
    And lunched on the Chersonese.

    I’ve lived in the valleys of fair Cashmere,
    Under Himalay’s snowy ridge.”
    Then the other impatiently said ,”See here ,
    Were you ever at Laffan’s Bridge?

    I’ve lived in the land where tobacco is grown,
    In the suburbs of Santiago;
    And I spent two years in Sierra Leone,
    And one in Del Fuego.

    I walked across Panama all in a day,
    Ah me! But the road was rocky.
    The other replied , “Will you kindly say,
    Were you ever at Horse -and – Jockey?

    I’ve borne my part in a savage fray,
    When I got this wound from a Lascar;
    We were bound just then from Mandalay
    For the Island of Madagascar,

    Ah! The sun never tired of shining there,
    And the trees canaries sang in,
    What of that?” said the other, sure I’ve a pair,
    And there’s lots of them in Drangan.

    And I’ve hunted the tigers in Turkestan,
    In Australia the kangaroos;
    And I lived six months as medicine man
    To a tribe of the Kathmandoos.

    And I’ve stood on the scene of Olympic games,
    Where the Grecians showed their paces,
    The other replied, Now tell me, James,
    Were you ever at Fethard Races?

    Don’t talk of your hunting in Yucatan,
    Or your fishing off St. Helena;
    I’d rather see young fellows hunting the ‘wren’
    In the hedges of Tobbernaheena.

    No doubt the scenes of a Swiss Canton
    Have a passable sort of charm
    Give me a sunset on Slievenamon
    From the head at Hackett’s Farm.

    And I’d rather be strolling along the quay,
    And watching the river flow,
    Than growing tea with the cute Chinee,
    Or mining in Mexico.

    And I wouldn’t much care for Sierra Leone,
    If I hadn’t seen Killenaule,
    And the man that was never in Mullinahone
    Shouldn’t say he had travelled at all

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