HELP !!!!!!!

Smidge

I bought the Kanger T2 twist starter kit and got it on Friday.
Only getting around to open it now.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think its missing a part.
If you look at the photo of the liquid injection diagram the is some sort of black "stopper" on the top of it.
On the part that I have received there is no black stopper bit.

Is this right????

Thanks

halkar

I think that picture is for something else. I don't know about kangers but most CE4 and CE6 are filled from the top. Can you twist and open the mouth piece? You may be able to fill from there.

StickyIcky

Correct the diagram is instructions for filling T3's

You have T2's

Like Halkar says if you twist off the mouth peice gently it will unscrew and you fill it via the top.

Smidge

Its the stopper part that appears to be missing(the little black bit that screws down into it)
Surely the liquid will leak out if thats not in place?

Smidge

StickyIcky wrote: »

Correct the diagram is instructions for filling T3's

You have T2's

Like Halkar says if you twist off the mouth peice gently it will unscrew and you fill it via the top.

Brill, will try that now.

Panic averted(nearly went and bought 20 lol)

StickyIcky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpleda4GheE

Here's a video

Smidge

Right, have done that(spilled the liquid all over the place:mad:)
The units are not charged so have plugged them in now.
How long does it take to charge?
Do I press the little button on the black part to take a puff?

Instructions with it are useless:(

grindle

Press button five times to turn on, five to turn off. While it's on, you need to hold the button as you're inhaling.

StickyIcky

Inhale it slowly into your mouth first. Don't drag it directly into your lungs the way you do with a cigarette or you might find it coughs you a bit. It's almost more like a smoking a cigar.

If you are using the wall charger I dunno, a few hours 4-5 hours maybe. I don't really use those ones any more.

Smidge

grindle wrote: »

Press button five times to turn on, five to turn off. While it's on, you need to hold the button as you're inhaling.

Knew I was doing something wrong!

Also, didn't "forward plan" well enough and am now lepping for a cig:(

Also, should there be lots of "smoke" when using?

grindle

What resistance atomiser is on the battery?

Twist the dial at the bottom of the battery to suit to taste. The higher the voltage the more vapour/hit/taste, but if you go too high it'll taste burnt. Lower the voltage and it won't.

Smidge

grindle wrote: »

What resistance atomiser is on the battery?

Twist the dial at the bottom of the battery to suit to taste. The higher the voltage the more vapour/hit/taste, but if you go too high it'll taste burnt. Lower the voltage and it won't.

Thanks a lot Grindle, would never have coped that(figures are practically invisible). The numbers go from 3.2 to 4.8 so have set it to 4.0. I was starting to get worried as there was very little smoke/pull/draw from it and was about to throw my hat at it

Smidge

Have been using this T2 today and not super impressed:(

I have, as the very helpful Grindle pointed out, turned up the number thing on it but there is still very little vapour or hit from this(nothing like the vapour that came out of the fellas one on the youtube vid like by another poster in this thread).

I'm using 20mg R4y-4 juice and am puffing on this every couple of mins in the hope of staving off the increasing urge for nicotine.

What's gone wrong?:(

Mr. Chrome

Try turning up the voltage a bit more, is it kinda gurgling?

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Try turning up the voltage a bit more, is it kinda gurgling?

No gurgling and I have it at the top whack (4.8).
I've just gone an d watched other youtube etc videos about the kanger t2 and the vapour coming out of the "smokers" is waaaaaaayy more than coming out of mine(me).

Mr. Chrome

Is the battery charged? Is the draw very stiff?

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Is the battery charged? Is the draw very stiff?

Battery is charged and I'm not sure what is a very stiff draw lol but if it means am I finding it hard to get "pull" then the answer is yes(I just put it down to the lungs not being in tip-top shape:o)

I'm watching them vaping away on videos and its like they have a freight train in their mouths:eek:

Mr. Chrome

Im not too well up on the T2, dont have one but try a few primer pulls, keep the button pressed and take a few pulls in succession then a big one, see if that works. If that doesnt work, try unscrewing the T2 and put some tissue over the mouthpiece and gentle blow into the bottom of it(the threaded part that connects to the battery). Give the threaded part a wipe first incase you get juice in your mouth.

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Im not too well up on the T2, dont have one but try a few primer pulls, keep the button pressed and take a few pulls in succession then a big one, see if that works. If that doesnt work, try unscrewing the T2 and put some tissue over the mouthpiece and gentle blow into the bottom of it(the threaded part that connects to the battery). Give the threaded part a wipe first incase you get juice in your mouth.

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.
Typical me, I would decide to quit on a sunday and for the fecking thing not to be working properly(or probably more to the point, I'm doing something wrong!!!

Mr. Chrome

The only thing I can think of is you might have overfilled it. Is there any chance you got liquid down the little tube that runs down the middle of the T2?

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

The only thing I can think of is you might have overfilled it. Is there any chance you got liquid down the little tube that runs down the middle of the T2?

I was very careful filling this tube as the first one I filled I spilled it all over the place. So I didn't get any in the hole in the centre tube.

I did fill it all the way to the 2.4ml measure but it has gone down now to almost the 2.0ml mark.

Having some serious withdrawals here lol
I'm starting to feel the crankiness/snappiness sneaking up on me :eek:

Mr. Chrome

Dont be afraid to have a fag, but dont give up on vaping, something is wrong with the T2 or battery. Hopefully someone who has a T2 can help out.

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Dont be afraid to have a fag, but dont give up on vaping, something is wrong with the T2 or battery. Hopefully someone who has a T2 can help out.

That's the problem..............
I went all gung-ho today and bought no cigs and now have nothing:(:mad::rolleyes:

Mr. Chrome

If you can just quickly unscrew the T2 and blow into the mouthpiece with tissue underneath, forget what I said earlier about blowing into the bottom of it :-) , where's Grindle when you need him :-P

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

If you can just quickly unscrew the T2 and blow into the mouthpiece with tissue underneath, forget what I said earlier about blowing into the bottom of it :-) , where's Grindle when you need him :-P

Nothing came out but had a draw after doing that and got a little bit more of a throat hit *yay*

But still not much vapour..

Grindle's probably down the pub lol (wish I was)

grindle

In a pub? Of a SUNDAY?!? School night, no such extravagance.

Are you making sure to take long, slow drags as opposed to sucking on it like a cheap floozy?
I'm surprised you're able to get it up to 4.8v without it tasting burnt, even the 2.4ohm head would be almost 10watts at that stage.

It's possible the airhole/s in the base of the T2 are either drilled in the wrong place or have swarf from the drilling stuck in them. Has happened to a few members here, couldn't get a pull off the yoke because the holes (drilled too low) were blocked by the eGo threads. Are both of the T2s not working?

Smidge

grindle wrote: »

In a pub? Of a SUNDAY?!? School night, no such extravagance.

Are you making sure to take long, slow drags as opposed to sucking on it like a cheap floozy?
I'm surprised you're able to get it up to 4.8v without it tasting burnt, even the 2.4ohm head would be almost 10watts at that stage.

It's possible the airhole/s in the base of the T2 are either drilled in the wrong place or have swarf from the drilling stuck in them. Has happened to a few members here, couldn't get a pull off the yoke because the holes (drilled too low) were blocked by the eGo threads. Are both of the T2s not working?

Did you bring back a "chipper"? :P


I put the "Swedish Fish" in the other head and it was only 12mg so I thought that was the problem.
I have ry4 stuff(20mg) in this one and am taking as deep a drag as I can(5-7 seconds worth)and still very little vapour from it.

Have just noticed now, having taken a pull, that sometimes after drawing on it there is a very slight crackle sound.
Is this anything?


Also, no burnt taste(that I can notice anyway)

grindle

That's just the noise the coil makes when it's firing and wet. When you're vaping that's covered-up by your mouth. You'd hear that crackle a lot when using cartos, not so much on clearos or rebuildable while vaping.

So, is the T2 with the Swedish Fish also not working?

Odd to get two duds.

And the airhole is closer to the tank like in this picture?



In the bad ones the holes were lower down. If the hole is in the right place, have you stuck a pin in to see if there's any machining leftovers still there?

Did you buy replacement heads? If it does work with a lower resistance head you'll know it was a problem with the previous head, if not it's a problem with the actual clearo-tank.

How annoying for you... :-/

Smidge

grindle wrote: »

That's just the noise the coil makes when it's firing and wet. When you're vaping that's covered-up by your mouth. You'd hear that crackle a lot when using cartos, not so much on clearos or rebuildable while vaping.

So, is the T2 with the Swedish Fish also not working?

Odd to get two duds.

And the airhole is closer to the tank like in this picture?



In the bad ones the holes were lower down. If the hole is in the right place, have you stuck a pin in to see if there's any machining leftovers still there?

Did you buy replacement heads? If it does work with a lower resistance head you'll know it was a problem with the previous head, if not it's a problem with the actual clearo-tank.

How annoying for you... :-/

Thanks for taking the time to reply, I know its a lot of ?'s


I only opened it today and it's my first one:(
No smokes in the house so slightly cracking up:D

Hole seems to be in the right place, according to your pic.

Have taken off the tank and the holes a re completely clear.
I'm still puffing away but no where near as good as I thought it would be(and in fairness from what I have seen).

grindle

Know anybody living near you where you could get something tomorrow? Any shops? Get onto the vendor anyway, if the thing hasn't got vapour or TH with a 20mg juice at 4.8v I can only imagine it being the clearo's fault (unless you're stealth vaping unbeknownst to yourself - holding the vapour in for as long as possible will make vapour vanish, although it wouldn't explain the lack of TH.)

Smidge

grindle wrote: »

Know anybody living near you where you could get something tomorrow? Any shops? Get onto the vendor anyway, if the thing hasn't got vapour or TH with a 20mg juice at 4.8v I can only imagine it being the clearo's fault (unless you're stealth vaping unbeknownst to yourself - holding the vapour in for as long as possible will make vapour vanish, although it wouldn't explain the lack of TH.)

I'm sorry Grindle, I'm a complete novice but what is TH?

Mr. Chrome

Throat hit, alot of those vids they dont inhale into the lungs, they just inhale into their mouth and blow it out to make the vapour look more impressive. Personally Im more concerned about throat hit and flavour. As long as I have some vapour Im happy.

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Throat hit, alot of those vids they dont inhale into the lungs, they just inhale into their mouth and blow it out to make the vapour look more impressive. Personally Im more concerned about throat hit and flavour. As long as I have some vapour Im happy.

I reckon that could be what I'm doing so.
I like to draw deeply when smoking(hence giving up as if I don't, my lungs are buggered lol)

But I'm not getting very much in the way of "hit" (as in HUGE craving and I would smoke a light cig so can't make it out)

Mr. Chrome

Its kinda weird to be honest, you sure you have the battery twisted all the way to 4.8volts and not all the way to 3.2volts? Maybe the head (the thing that burns the juice with the wick in it) isnt pushed or screwed in properly. You should be getting a good whack in the throat at 4.8v and 20mg juice.

Smidge

Mr. Chrome wrote: »

Its kinda weird to be honest, you sure you have the battery twisted all the way to 4.8volts and not all the way to 3.2volts? Maybe the head (the thing that burns the juice with the wick in it) isnt pushed or screwed in properly. You should be getting a good whack in the throat at 4.8v and 20mg juice.

I thought as much(that's why I'm here )
I've seen "hardened" smokers do better with their vapours than this.
I must have puffed on this thing 20+ times an hour today and no much throat thing.

And its at 4.4 now as I was afraid of breaking the thing lol

Rattleshakes

This used to happen me with the CE4's and was down to the fact that they weren't making proper connection.It would still work but the draw became extremely tight and there would be next to no hit.If you have a small pliers,any kind of nose pliers should do,try carefully adjusting the 510 connection on the T2.You want to gently pull it out,but only a fraction.Try rocking it side to side to loosen it and then carefully pull.Worked for me(most of the time!)
This can actually lead to leaking so be careful.I should also add that if this is the problem,send them back.You shouldn't have to modify a finished product.

naughtysmurf

I've had a couple of these for a while now with no major issues

Setting it to 4V should give you enough TH, I found that I tended to block the airholes by accident by the way I was holding it, took me a while to figure that out so check that and change grip if necessary

Some of the wingnuts flavours I've found don't have great TH but swedish fish was good

Make sure the wick is screwed in properly, these can loosen when taking off the drip tip I think it's called (the bit you put in your mouth)

Took me a couple of months to totally stop smoking even with the kanger, no cigs now since xmas so wouldn't worry about smoking the odd one until you get the hang of it

If I were you, I'd probably buy a pack & relax, fully charge both batteries, clean & dry everything and start over, when I clean or rinse out the clearomizer (the glass yoke you pour the liquid into) I leave it on a radiator for an hour to make sure the internals are fully dry before using it again

Best of luck

StickyIcky

One thing I believe is that vaping can give far more vapour and throat hit than smoking if you've got it setup right, with the right juice, the right atomiser and the right voltage etc.

Smidge

Thanks to everyone for the replies.

I stuck with it most of today but in the end had to get some cigarettes as I'm having major nic cravings .

It wasn't so much not getting huge plumes of vapour as it was the lack of a hit that was bugging me..
I smoke silk cut light(I know, I know:o:p)so thought I'd be grand with the vapour. A guy I know(in his 60's, 30 a day JPB man)gave up over a year ago with a vapour so I can't understand what went wrong.

I have given up a few times over the years(for longish ie a year here and there)with other things but always missed the habit of smoking(this was before vapers and e-cigs). so I thought this would be ideal for me.

I'm a bit gutted tbh

Green Hornet

I know I've said it before but Im gonna say it again because I think new vapers are ushered down the clearo route almost exclusively. I never got on with them at all, burnt taste, poor vapour etc. no matter what I did.

Always thought they were junk. I know they work for some people but never worked for me. You could be one of the ones that they don't work for as well.

I think people starting out should consider the cartomiser route or at least buy a clearo and a carto. If the clearo's don't work out, try the carto. Only costs a couple of euro for a carto.

redkid

grindle wrote: »

What resistance atomiser is on the battery?

Twist the dial at the bottom of the battery to suit to taste. The higher the voltage the more vapour/hit/taste, but if you go too high it'll taste burnt. Lower the voltage and it won't.

They usually come with a 2.6 ohm coil but vaping at 4 volts will be enough to start off with.

Mr. Chrome

Alot of people here (including myself) gradually cut down on tabs while vaping. I got to a stage where I actually enjoyed vaping more than fags and then fags started making me sick, which was great!
You might want to contact the vendor in case the T2s or batteries are faulty.

Smidge

Green Hornet wrote: »

I know I've said it before but Im gonna say it again because I think new vapers are ushered down the clearo route almost exclusively. I never got on with them at all, burnt taste, poor vapour etc. no matter what I did.

Always thought they were junk. I know they work for some people but never worked for me. You could be one of the ones that they don't work for as well.

I think people starting out should consider the cartomiser route or at least buy a clearo and a carto. If the clearo's don't work out, try the carto. Only costs a couple of euro for a carto.

I really am that much of a novice:o

What do I have..clearo or carto or what(I have a kanger T2)?
What is the difference?

This is a very complex business!!!!!!!!!

ben36

It's a clearo you have,clearomiser is the proper name for them,you have the t-2 version.Maybe you have a bit of the wick stuck in the centre post?Unscrew the head and see if there's anything stuck there,blow it out and rescrew the head back in.

grindle

The T2 is a clearomiser.

A brief history of atomisers (where I ignore some cack that existed before I started vaping which involved tea-bag materials).

Dripping Atomiser


Has no filler, only accepts a few drops at a time.

Cartomiser

Looks the same on the outside but has filler feeding the wick inside. Needs to be topped up every once in a while.



Carto w/tank
Carto has a hole punched into it so the juice in the tank soaks the filler which feeds the wick. Tank typically holds 3-6ml of juice.


Clearomiser

Has a tank of juice surrounding a coil that has wicks being fed by wicks resting in the juice.



Repairable Dripping Atomiser (RDA)

Coil built by user with wire (Kanthal preferably, or Nichrome) and wick (silica or cotton or ceramic/silica fibre or airstone ceramic or stainless steel - SS - mesh or SS rope, or de or or, or we having a laugh with how many wick-types there...or?), can generally hold more than a few drops. Anywhere from 10-20 is the norm.



Repairable Tank Atomiser (RTA)

Coil (generally) built by user; SS mesh or rope are outperforming other wicks at the moment but others can be used.

RTAs built with the preference of steel in mind are called Genesis atomisers, and are usually pretty difficult for newbies to cope with (SS is conductive and is prone to short circuiting without proper care) although ribbon wire has made it much easier to deal with.



Other types exist that are basically better-performing versions of clearomisers...



...and another few exist that are like dripping atomisers you can put into a carto tank...



...and others besides that, many variations on a theme.

StickyIcky

Green Hornet wrote: »

I know I've said it before but Im gonna say it again because I think new vapers are ushered down the clearo route almost exclusively. I never got on with them at all, burnt taste, poor vapour etc. no matter what I did.

Always thought they were junk. I know they work for some people but never worked for me. You could be one of the ones that they don't work for as well.

I think people starting out should consider the cartomiser route or at least buy a clearo and a carto. If the clearo's don't work out, try the carto. Only costs a couple of euro for a carto.

I'm fully in your court with this GH. I know I've said it before but I'll say it again :P

StickyIcky

grindle wrote: »

The T2 is a clearomiser.

A brief history of atomisers (where I ignore some cack that existed before I started vaping which involved tea-bag materials).

Dripping Atomiser


Has no filler, only accepts a few drops at a time.

Cartomiser

Looks the same on the outside but has filler feeding the wick inside. Needs to be topped up every once in a while.



Carto w/tank
Carto has a hole punched into it so the juice in the tank soaks the filler which feeds the wick. Tank typically holds 3-6ml of juice.


Clearomiser

Has a tank of juice surrounding a coil that has wicks being fed by wicks resting in the juice.



Repairable Dripping Atomiser (RDA)

Coil built by user with wire (Kanthal preferably, or Nichrome) and wick (silica or cotton or ceramic/silica fibre or airstone ceramic or stainless steel - SS - mesh or SS rope, or de or or, or we having a laugh with how many wick-types there...or?), can generally hold more than a few drops. Anywhere from 10-20 is the norm.



Repairable Tank Atomiser (RTA)

Coil (generally) built by user; SS mesh or rope are outperforming other wicks at the moment but others can be used.

RTAs built with the preference of steel in mind are called Genesis atomisers, and are usually pretty difficult for newbies to cope with (SS is conductive and is prone to short circuiting without proper care) although ribbon wire has made it much easier to deal with.



Other types exist that are basically better-performing versions of clearomisers...



...and another few exist that are like dripping atomisers you can put into a carto tank...



...and others besides that, many variations on a theme.

This post is also worth a quote. Nice Grindle.

grindle

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StickyIcky wrote: »

jamie72

To each his own, but I pour vapour from my T2s, and while I use my dripper for checking and playing with flavours, I'd never be without my beloved T2s.

At 4.8v, it should be burning the hell out of the coil, to the point where it's tastes like burning silica, even on a 2.4 ohm T2 head. Maybe you got a bad set of batteries?

EDIY: on another note, what's this? Looks sexy as feck.

Green Hornet

That's the daddy of them all......Clockworks RTA.......and still one of the best......

You can use silica or mesh.

http://clockworks-cornwall.co.uk/

Rattleshakes

Green Hornet wrote: »

That's the daddy of them all......Clockworks RTA.......and still one of the best......

You can use silica or mesh.

http://clockworks-cornwall.co.uk/

Does it actually work well with silica?