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Summer 2013 Forecast Contest

  • 26-05-2013 6:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭


    Note -- This summer contest is independent of the monthly "Boards forecast contest" series and anyone can enter.

    Each year since about 2010, we've had winter and summer forecast contests, so many of you will already know the rules. Please read carefully and use the template at the end of this post to enter. This is not a contest that can be entered by the monthly contest form that we use separately. You have to enter with a post on this thread.

    Here are the simplified rules and a guide to how the contest will be scored.

    1. Predict the monthly IMT values for June, July and August. We calculate your summer average, you don't need to enter that. The long-term averages for those three months are 13.7, 15.2 and 15.3 C. IMT as most will know is short for "Irish Mean temperature" and is our preferred average for five representative stations, Claremorris, Casement, Mullingar, Oak Park and Shannon, as reported by Met Eireann in their monthly summaries and monthly data sections. scores 5 for each month and 15 for the season.

    2. Predict the monthly rainfall as percentage of normal, as reported by Met Eireann for eleven stations. These include the five above and also Malin Head, Valentia, Cork, Johnstown Castle, Ballyhaise and Belmullet. The averages are of course 100% of normal. The seasonal average will be calculated by us, so you don't need to enter that. scores 5 for each month and 15 for the season.

    3. Predict the highest temperature of summer, and the date when it will occur. We don't require the location. Summer is defined as the rest of the calendar year but the contest will be validated in late September, scores will be adjusted if by any chance the maximum occurs later. As it has been rather chilly this spring it is very unlikely that we've already passed this value but if you think so, go with 20.0 "previous" and this will be the minimum acceptable entry. scores 10 for the max and 10 for the date.

    4. Predict the average sunshine for the entire season (not monthly) as a percentage of normal. This value will be calculated from our monthly contests as reported in the Met Eireann monthly summaries, just a straight average of June, July and August. scores 10

    5. Give the date of the heaviest calendar day rainfall anywhere in Ireland at an official reporting site from 1 June to 30 September and the amount in mm.
    scores 5 for the amount and 5 for the date.

    Scores will be based on rank order not absolute error, the details will be announced when the number of entrants is known.

    Please use this template or something very similar, for one thing, by using it you will be sure you've entered everything. I will try to contact people with incomplete or apparently invalid entries.

    JUNE IMT = xxx
    JULY IMT = xxx
    AUG IMT = xxx
    MTC calc seasonal

    JUNE PRC = xxx%
    JULY PRC = xxx%
    AUG PRC = xxx%
    MTC calc seasonal

    SEASONAL MAX = xxx on (day) of (any month to come) or 20.0 (previous date)

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = xxx%

    MAX RAINFALL = xxx.x mm on (day) of (month JJAS only)

    ______________________________________________________

    I've decided not to have penalties for late entries, just an absolute deadline which will be end of Monday, 3 June (0300h 4 June). So no rush, you have a few days to consider the guidance and do some calculations.

    The monthly boards contest thread will open on Monday 27th once I have the form details sorted out. You don't have to use the same forecasts in the two different contests.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,538 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I'm too eager for epic considerations :D

    JUNE IMT = 13.1 C
    JULY IMT = 15.7 C
    AUG IMT = 15.2 C


    JUNE PRC = 118%
    JULY PRC = 78%
    AUG PRC = 104%

    SEASONAL MAX = 29.8 C on 22nd of July
    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 95%

    MAX RAINFALL = 57.9 mm on 5th of August


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭Bsal


    JUNE IMT = 14.1
    JULY IMT = 15.4
    AUG IMT = 14.9

    JUNE PRC = 97%
    JULY PRC = 91%
    AUG PRC = 110%


    SEASONAL MAX = 25.1 on 13 July

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 103%

    MAX RAINFALL = 42.0 mm on 17 August


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭pauldry


    JUNE IMT = 13.8
    JULY IMT = 14.9
    AUG IMT = 13.9

    JUNE PRC = 99%
    JULY PRC = 90%
    AUG PRC = 121%


    SEASONAL MAX = 24.9 on 24 july

    SUMMER SUNSHINE. 93%

    MAX RAINFALL = 59.0 mm on 31 August[/quote]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Strasser


    JUNE IMT = 12.5
    JULY IMT = 13.8
    AUG IMT = 13.2
    MTC calc seasonal

    JUNE PRC = 120%
    JULY PRC = 110%
    AUG PRC = 105%


    SEASONAL MAX = 25.9 on 30th of July

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 94%

    MAX RAINFALL = 41.5 mm on 25th of June


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    JUNE IMT = 14.1 C
    JULY IMT = 17.8 C
    AUG IMT = 16.5 C


    JUNE PRC = 112%
    JULY PRC = 55%
    AUG PRC = 76%

    SEASONAL MAX = 31.2C on 10th of July
    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 132%

    MAX RAINFALL = 46mm on 31st of August


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭John mac


    JUNE IMT = 13.3
    JULY IMT = 14.7
    AUG IMT = 14.2


    JUNE PRC = 101%
    JULY PRC = 95%
    AUG PRC = 100%


    SEASONAL MAX = 26.9 on 20 of June

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 110%

    MAX RAINFALL = 135mm on 19 of september


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭omicron


    JUNE IMT = 13.0
    JULY IMT = 17.0
    AUG IMT = 16.0
    MTC calc seasonal

    JUNE PRC = 115%
    JULY PRC = 85%
    AUG PRC = 100%
    MTC calc seasonal

    SEASONAL MAX = 30.0 on 29th July.

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 110%

    MAX RAINFALL = 50.0 mm on 20th September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭dasa29


    JUNE IMT = 11
    JULY IMT = 13
    AUG IMT = 15

    JUNE PRC = 90%
    JULY PRC = 75%
    AUG PRC = 75%


    SEASONAL MAX = 27 on 13 of July

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 150%

    MAX RAINFALL = 80mm on 17 of June:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    JUNE IMT = 13.5
    JULY IMT = 14.6
    AUG IMT = 15.0


    JUNE PRC = 105%
    JULY PRC = 95%
    AUG PRC = 120%


    SEASONAL MAX = 26.2 10th July

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 105%

    MAX RAINFALL = 42 mm on 14th August


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    Might as well be a bit optimistic :cool:

    JUNE IMT = 14.1
    JULY IMT = 15.7
    AUG IMT = 16.1

    JUNE PRC = 85%
    JULY PRC = 110%
    AUG PRC = 70%


    SEASONAL MAX = 31.1C on July 4th

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 110%

    MAX RAINFALL = 49mm on 20th of July


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭sunflower3


    JUNE IMT = 14.3
    JULY IMT = 15.1
    AUG IMT = 14.6


    JUNE PRC = 94%
    JULY PRC = 102%
    AUG PRC = 96%


    SEASONAL MAX = 27.1 29th July

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 108%

    MAX RAINFALL = 48 mm on 18th August


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    JUNE IMT = 14.0
    JULY IMT = 15.8
    AUG IMT = 16.0


    JUNE PRC = 70%
    JULY PRC = 80%
    AUG PRC = 85%


    SEASONAL MAX = 28.8 on 1st of August 2013

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 130%

    MAX RAINFALL = 130.4 on 31st of August


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    JUNE IMT = 14.2
    JULY IMT = 15.6
    AUG IMT = 15.2

    JUNE PRC = 90%
    JULY PRC = 82%
    AUG PRC = 97%

    SEASONAL MAX = 30.2c on July 21st

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 108%

    MAX RAINFALL = 56mm on August 20th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭westmidlands


    JUNE IMT = 14.7
    JULY IMT = 15.3
    AUG IMT = 14.9

    JUNE PRC = 78%
    JULY PRC = 94%
    AUG PRC = 103%

    SEASONAL MAX = 29.0C on June 25th

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 115%

    MAX RAINFALL = 52mm on August 15th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    JUNE IMT = 14.9
    JULY IMT = 15.9
    AUG IMT = 15.9

    JUNE PRC = 69%
    JULY PRC = 89%
    AUG PRC = 99%


    SEASONAL MAX = 26.9 on 31st July.

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 119%

    MAX RAINFALL = 39.0 mm on 1st July


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Keep in mind the deadline for entries is end of Monday or 0300h Tuesday 4th June.

    Here's my shot in the dark.

    JUNE IMT = 15.2
    JULY IMT = 16.3
    AUG IMT = 16.1
    MTC calc seasonal (15.9)

    JUNE PRC = 78%
    JULY PRC = 75%
    AUG PRC = 90%
    MTC calc seasonal (81%)

    SEASONAL MAX = 29.2 on 28 of June

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 125%

    MAX RAINFALL = 35.7 mm on 28 of September


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭nilhg


    JUNE IMT = 14.2
    JULY IMT = 15.2
    AUG IMT = 15.2

    JUNE PRC = 87%
    JULY PRC = 99%
    AUG PRC = 97%


    SEASONAL MAX = 28.1 on 06 July

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 108%

    MAX RAINFALL = 28.0 mm on 06 August


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭talkabout


    JUNE IMT = 14.9
    JULY IMT = 15.5
    AUG IMT = 15.8

    JUNE PRC = 85%
    JULY PRC = 90%
    AUG PRC = 95%


    SEASONAL MAX = 28.9 on August 7th

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 110%

    MAX RAINFALL = 29mm on 2nd of July


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭lostinashford


    JUNE IMT = 14.2
    JULY IMT = 15.4
    AUG IMT = 15.6

    JUNE Prc = 91%
    JULY Prc = 92%
    AUG Prc = 109%


    SEASONAL MAX = 25.6 on July 15

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 114%

    MAX RAINFALL = 67.0 mm on 13 August


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭traecy1


    June IMT: 14.5
    July IMT: 15.5
    August IMT: 15.3

    June PRC: 85%
    July PRC: 90%
    Aug PRC: 100%

    Seasonal Max: 29.2 on July 14th

    Summer Sunshine: 110%

    Max Rainfall: 43mm August 17th


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I didn't know that today (3rd) was a bank holiday when I came up with the deadline so I will extend it one day, anyone who enters before 0300h Wed 5th is officially in the contest, but no late entries accepted.

    Anyone who has already entered is free to edit or repost, you can edit without fear because I haven't copied any of the info yet, and I won't before the deadline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    June IMT: 14.5
    July IMT: 15.5
    August IMT: 15.7

    June PRC: 90%
    July PRC: 98%
    Aug PRC: 100%

    Seasonal Max: 32c on July 30th

    Summer Sunshine: 110%

    Max Rainfall: 63mm August 10th

    Thanks for the extra day MT, would have missed it otherwise!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    June IMT: 14.7
    July IMT: 15.0
    August IMT: 15.2

    June PRC: 94%
    July PRC: 105%
    Aug PRC: 100%

    Seasonal Max: 26.5c on June 29th

    Summer Sunshine: 107%

    Max Rainfall: 42mm August 30th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Forecasts for summer 2013 contest
    ________________________________________

    22 forecasts have been received. Scoring will be by rank rather than absolute errors and will work this way: for two questions worth 15, each rank given 1.0 from 15 down to 7 then rest at 0.5 intervals. For other questions worth 5 or 10, least accurate two are given zero then rest are given increments of 0.5, with those scores doubled up for 5 point questions. Ties may affect the distribution. Max temp and rainfall questions are scored independently for values and dates.

    Consensus is the median value and may not round off exactly, scoring for consensus does not alter scoring for actual contestants.

    The forecasts in order of average temperature for the three months:

    FORECASTER ________ IMT ____________ PRC ______ MAX TEMP ___ MAX RAIN __ SUN
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    jpmarn ________ 14.1 17.8 16.5 16.1 __ 112 55 76 81 ___ 31.2 10/7 __ 46.0 31/8 __ 132

    M.T. Cranium ___ 15.2 16.3 16.1 15.9 __ 78 75 90 81 ____ 29.2 28/6 __ 35.7 28/9 __ 125

    Joe Public ______ 14.9 15.9 15.9 15.6 __ 69 89 99 86 ____ 26.9 31/7 __ 39.0 01/7 __ 119

    talkabout ______ 14.9 15.5 15.8 15.4 __ 85 90 95 90 ____ 28.9 07/8 __ 29.0 02/7 __ 110

    omicron _______ 13.0 17.0 16.0 15.3 __ 115 85 100 100 __ 30.0 29/7 __ 50.0 20/9 __ 110

    harps _________ 14.1 15.7 16.1 15.3 __ 85 110 70 88 ____ 31.1 04/7 __ 49.0 20/7 __ 110

    Rickylovesuall __ 14.0 15.8 16.0 15.3 __ 70 80 85 78 _____ 28.8 01/8 _ 130.4 31/8 __ 130

    eskimocat _____ 14.5 15.5 15.7 15.2 __ 90 98 100 96 ____ 32.0 30/7 __ 63.0 10/8 __ 110

    traecy.1 ______ 14.5 15.5 15.3 15.1 __ 85 90 100 95 ____ 29.2 14/7 __ 43.0 17/8 __ 110

    lostinashford___ 14.2 15.4 15.6 15.1 __ 91 92 109 97 ____ 25.6 15/7 __ 67.0 13/8 __ 114

    Lumi _________ 14.7 15.0 15.2 15.0 __ 94 105 100 100 __ 26.5 29/6 __ 42.0 30/8 __ 107



    Consensus ____ 14.2 15.4 15.2 15.0 __ 90 90 100 93 ____ 28.5 21/7 __ 47.0 15/8 __ 110



    DOCARCH _____ 14.2 15.6 15.2 15.0 __ 90 82 97 90 ____ 30.2 21/7 __ 56.0 20/8 __ 108

    westmidlands __ 14.7 15.3 14.9 15.0 __ 78 94 103 92 ___ 29.0 25/6 __ 52.0 15/8 __ 115

    Bsal _________ 14.1 15.4 14.9 14.8 __ 97 91 110 99 ____ 25.1 13/7 __ 42.0 17/8 __ 103

    dsmythy ______ 13.1 15.7 15.2 14.7 __ 118 78 104 100 __ 29.8 22/7 __ 57.9 05/8 ___95

    sunflower3 ____ 14.3 15.1 14.6 14.7 __ 94 102 96 97 ____ 27.1 29/7 __ 48.0 18/8 __ 108

    nilhg _________ 14.2 14.2 15.2 14.5 __ 87 99 97 94 ____ 28.1 29/6 __ 28.0 06/8 __ 108

    force eleven ___ 13.5 14.6 15.0 14.4 __ 105 95 120 107 __ 26.2 10/7 __ 42.0 14/8 __ 105

    pauldry _______ 13.8 14.9 13.9 14.2 __ 99 90 121 103 ___ 24.9 24/7 __ 59.0 31/8 ___93

    John mac _____ 13.3 14.7 14.2 14.1 __ 101 95 100 99 ___ 26.5 29/6 __ 42.0 30/8 __ 107

    Strasser ______ 12.5 13.8 13.2 13.2 __ 120 110 105 112 __ 25.9 30/7 __ 41.5 25/6 ___94

    dasa29 _______ 11.0 13.0 15.0 13.0 __ 90 75 75 87 _____ 27.0 13/7 __ 80.0 17/6 __ 150


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    33.5 mm of rain at Valentia on 10th of June.

    Will check MS for confirmation but 25.3 C at Newport earlier this month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I have broken radio silence to report 38.9 mm at Cork on the 16th of June and checking Moorepark as the only plausible off-page in excess, the verdict is that dasa29 has a corker of a date prediction, as to amount, not so much. Joe Public will be hoping for a cease-rain now. But it's early days yet and well, I hope this is the most until 29 September personally. :)

    But somehow I have that feeling it may not be. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Just your scores for June

    (IMT 13.6, PRC 91%)


    FORECASTER ___ IMT _ PRC _ SCORE (June)
    ________________________________________________________________________________


    lostinashford___ 3.0 __ 5.0 __ 8.0
    DOCARCH _____ 3.0 __ 5.0 __ 8.0

    Consensus ____ 3.0 __ 5.0 __ 8.0

    harps ________ 4.0 __ 3.5 __ 7.5
    Bsal _________ 4.0 __ 3.5 __ 7.5
    pauldry _______ 5.0 __ 2.5 __ 7.5
    John mac _____ 4.5 __ 2.5 __ 7.0
    eskimocat _____2.0 __ 5.0 __ 7.0
    nilhg _________ 3.0 __ 3.5 __ 6.5
    force eleven ___ 5.0 __ 1.5 __ 6.5
    sunflower3 ____ 2.0 __ 4.0 __ 6.0
    Rickylovesuall _ 4.5 __ 1.0 __ 5.5
    traecy.1 _____ 2.0 __ 3.5 __ 5.5
    Lumi ________ 1.0 __ 4.0 __ 5.0
    jpmarn ______ 4.0 __ 1.0 __ 5.0
    dasa29 ______ 0.0 __ 5.0 __ 5.0
    talkabout ____ 0.5 __ 3.5 __ 4.0
    dsmythy _____ 4.0 __ 0.0 __ 4.0
    omicron _____ 3.0 __ 0.5 __ 3.5
    westmidlands _ 1.0 __ 1.5 __ 2.5
    M.T. Cranium _ 0.0 __ 2.0 __ 2.0
    Joe Public ____ 0.5 __ 0.5 __ 1.0
    Strasser _____ 1.0 __ 0.0 __ 1.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    This is a guide to who owns what blocks of time for the maximum, and what their guess is for that maximum. At the moment it looks like we are owned by nilhg, force eleven, or maybe Jpmarn ...

    Date ranges indicate the dates where your forecast would be highest ranked.

    1 June to 22 June _____ John mac (26.5) _____ 25.4 was recorded on 8th
    until that reading is bettered, this represents a perfect timing forecast by ranking but if it is eclipsed, John mac can score either the max or at least some on temperature. ... note, date wrong in table, can't edit that now.

    23 June to 26 June ____ Westmidlands (29.1) ___ 25.4 was recorded on 8th
    until that reading is bettered, this represents second top ranked for timing forecast but if it is eclipsed, Wm can score some more than at present on temperature.

    27 June to 28 June __ MTC (29.2) ___
    has some hope in the temp, can score a few points on date if it happens soon, come on Monday!

    29 June to 1 July ____ Lumi (26.5)
    hopes rest on a max near the prediction in the next few days

    2 July to 5 July ______ Harps (31.1)
    could do well if that value is hit during the week

    6 to 8 July _________ Nilhg (28.1) ____ table is wrong on date, can't edit now
    sorry I got your date wrong too (editing mistake) __ this could do very well I think

    9 to 11 July ________ Jpmarn (31.2) and force eleven (26.2)
    not too shabby

    12 to 13 July _______ Bsal (25.1), dasa29 (27.0)
    in with a chance

    14 July ____________ traecy.1 (29.2)
    it could happen

    15 July to 18 July ____________ lostinashford (25.6) ___
    hopes rest on dates, slight increase at most over June

    19 July to 21 July ____________ DOCARCH (30.2) and Con Sensus (28.5)
    why Con why?

    22 July to 23 July ____________ dsmythy (29.8)
    who can say?

    24 July to 26 July ____________ pauldry (24.9)
    hopes rest mainly on dates and minimal increase over June

    27 July to 29 July ____________ omicron (30.0), sunflower3 (27.1)

    30 July _________________ eskimocat (32.0) and Strasser (25.6)

    31 July _________________ Joe Public (26.9)

    1 August to 4 August ________________ Rickylovesuall (28.8)

    5 August to end of summer ___________ talkabout (28.9)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    As 29.5 reported both 9th and 10th, Jpmarn could sweep this category if it happens to reach close to his 31.2 today. Any improvement on 29.5 will boost his score on that side. Otherwise the dates and top temps would bring about a rather wide spread of 7-8 out of 10 scores over the category, unless of course this warm spell is eclipsed by an even stronger burst of heat later on. If these values hold, tracey.1 would likely have the highest score in the category overall. He could benefit further from a slightly higher but similar temperature on Friday or the weekend. There are several lurking in the weeds down the river a bit. DOCARCH, Dsmythy and omicron are well positioned to take advantage of any greater heat in late July, also eskimocat if it really sizzles at 32.0.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    29.6 at Mountdillon on Friday 19th (if it verifies in the MS) would edge out the earlier 29.5, if it doesn't verify Shannon hit 29.5 again same day which will give two starting points for date of max. Assuming that the 29.6 verifies, DOCARCH and dsmythy will do very well in this category.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    48.4 mm rain at Dunsany on Thursday 25th, if verified would be the new maximum rainfall and give Harps a boat load of points in that category.

    Despite a few deluges around the country (Newport, Markree and Moorepark for instance) this recent rain has made a point of avoiding the grid of eleven stations used in the MS for rainfall percentages and thus I believe the July rainfall will probably fail to reach 75% unless it picks up further before end of the month. The July IMT will almost definitely be higher than any guess made. Watch for more provisional scoring soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    JUNE IMT = 14.0
    JULY IMT = 15.8
    AUG IMT = 16.0


    JUNE PRC = 70%
    JULY PRC = 80%
    AUG PRC = 85%


    SEASONAL MAX = 28.8 on 1st of August 2013

    SUMMER SUNSHINE = 130%

    MAX RAINFALL = 130.4 on 31st of August

    Uh, I meant 1st of August for the rain and 31st of August for the temperature ? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Don't give up on the 31st, your amount will still be in play, barely. Anyway, your warmest date at present is worth something, let you know what when I get a moment to update the scoring in this contest perhaps on the weekend (holiday down time for me, yay).

    IMT of about 17.9 means Jpmarn and omicron share 5.0 points and Joe Public plus yer host have 4.5 each. July rainfall has been increasing rapidly, was as low as 25% a week ago but is now 75-80 per cent, will report on that later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭pauldry


    86 per cent rain for July


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    June and July scores, provisional seasonal max

    We already scored June, now for July, IMT was 17.8 C above all predictions so that one's easy to score, and the rainfall was 86% about 10% of which fell on the 31st helping many to recover points. FYI the sunshine at 148% places the first two months at 129%. The seasonal max tripped us up in the monthly contest, the MS reported that a station in Kerry (Ardfert) hit 30.3 which was not indicated in the lists on the website day to day so I wasn't aware of it, but the rules say we go with the MAX from the MS so it's 30.3 on the 19th. I rather doubt this will be beaten later in the summer so we can post some provisional scores for that category subject to revision if some places gets warmer than 30.3.


    FORECASTER ___ IMT J,J _ PRC J,J _ MAX _ date __ SCORE so far
    ________________________________________________________________________________



    DOCARCH _____ 3.0 3.5 __ 5.0 4.5 __ 5.0 5.0 ____ 26.0
    traecy.1 _____ 2.0 3.0 __ 3.5 4.5 __ 4.0 4.5 ____ 21.5
    omicron _____ 3.0 5.0 __ 0.5 5.0 __ 5.0 3.0 ____ 21.5

    Consensus ____ 3.0 2.5 __ 5.0 4.5 __ 2.0 4.5 ____ 21.5

    dsmythy _____ 4.0 4.0 __ 0.0 3.0 __ 4.5 5.0 ____ 20.5
    harps ________ 4.0 4.0 __ 3.5 1.5 __ 4.5 1.5 ____ 19.0
    lostinashford___ 3.0 2.5 __ 5.0 3.5 __ 0.5 4.0 ____ 18.5
    jpmarn _______ 4.0 5.0 __ 1.0 0.0 __ 4.0 3.5 ____ 18.5
    Bsal _________ 4.0 2.5 __ 3.5 3.5 __ 0.0 4.0 ____ 17.5
    pauldry _______5.0 1.0 __ 2.5 4.5 __ 0.0 4.5 ____ 17.5
    eskimocat _____2.0 3.0 __ 5.0 2.5 __ 2.5 2.5 ____ 17.5
    Rickylovesuall _ 4.5 4.0 __ 1.0 3.5 __ 3.0 1.5 ____ 17.5
    talkabout ____ 0.5 3.0 __ 3.5 4.5 __ 3.0 1.0 ____ 15.5
    sunflower3 ____ 2.0 1.5 __ 4.0 2.0 __ 2.0 3.5 ____ 15.0
    M.T. Cranium __ 0.0 4.5 __ 2.0 2.5 __ 4.0 0.5 ____ 13.5
    Joe Public _____ 0.5 4.5 __ 0.5 5.0 __ 1.5 2.0 ___ 13.5
    force eleven ___ 5.0 0.5 __ 1.5 2.5 __ 0.5 3.0 ____ 13.0
    nilhg _________ 3.0 0.5 __ 3.5 1.5 __ 2.0 2.0 ____ 12.5
    John mac _____ 4.5 1.0 __ 2.5 2.5 __ 1.0 1.0 ____ 12.5
    dasa29 _______ 0.0 0.0 __ 5.0 1.5 __ 1.5 4.0 ____ 12.0
    westmidlands __ 1.0 2.0 __ 1.5 3.0 __ 3.5 0.5 ____ 11.5
    Lumi _________ 1.0 1.5 __ 4.0 1.0 __ 1.0 1.0 _____ 9.5
    Strasser ______ 1.0 0.0 __ 0.0 0.0 __ 1.0 2.5 _____ 4.5

    Next update will include just about everything else after end of August.

    The Max rainfall will be based on calendar day, the MS reported on some higher amounts in their 09h-09h climat day but I will base this on the stations in the lists of daily data on the website (past data). Those are only calendar day reports. So far I believe it's 48.4 mm at Dunsany about a week ago, will check on that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Updated scoring report

    August had an IMT of 15.7, the summer mean was also 15.7.

    August had rainfall of 75% which brought the summer mean to 83%.

    August had sunshine of 79% which made the summer average 112% of normal.

    There has been no change since the last report on max temp and it's unlikely that these scores will need revising. We now await the final verdict on maximum 24h rainfall. I may post some thoughts on who could get what number of points there, once this table is sorted out. But with those ten points not yet estimated, these are the current standings given all settled (or likely settled) categories.

    FORECASTER ___ IMT J,J,A _ IMT _ PRC J,J,A _ PRC _ MAX _ date _ SUN _ SCORE so far
    Max points ________ 5 5 5 __ 15 ____ 5 5 5 __ 15 ___ 5 ___ 5 __ 10 ____ 90 ___________________________________________________________________________________



    harps ________ 4.0 4.0 3.5 _ 12.0 __ 3.5 1.5 4.5 _ 11.0 __ 4.5 1.5 __10.0__ 60.0
    talkabout _____ 0.5 3.0 5.0 _ 13.0 __ 3.5 4.5 4.0 __ 9.0 __ 3.0 1.0 __10.0__ 56.5
    DOCARCH ____ 3.0 3.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 5.0 4.5 3.5 __ 9.0 __ 5.0 5.0 __ 6.5___ 54.0
    Joe Public ____ 0.5 4.5 4.5 _ 15.0 __ 0.5 5.0 3.0 _ 13.0__ 1.5 2.0 __ 4.0___ 53.5
    omicron _____ 3.0 5.0 4.0 _ 12.0 __ 0.5 5.0 2.5 __ 3.0 __ 5.0 3.0 __10.0___ 53.0
    M.T. Cranium _ 0.0 4.5 3.5 _ 14.0 __ 2.0 2.5 4.0 _ 15.0 __ 4.0 0.5 __ 2.0___ 52.0
    jpmarn ______ 4.0 5.0 1.5 _ 12.0 __ 1.0 0.0 5.0 _ 15.0 __ 4.0 3.5 __ 0.5 __ 51.5
    traecy.1 _____ 2.0 3.0 3.5 __ 7.0 __ 3.5 4.5 2.5 __ 6.0 __ 4.0 4.5 __10.0__ 50.5
    Rickylovesuall _ 4.5 4.0 4.0 _ 12.0 __ 1.0 3.5 4.5 _ 11.0 __ 3.0 1.5 __ 1.5__ 50.5

    Consensus ____ 3.0 2.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 5.0 4.5 2.5 __ 6.5 __ 2.0 4.5 __10.0__ 49.5

    eskimocat _____2.0 3.0 5.0 __ 8.0 __ 5.0 2.5 2.5 __ 5.5 __ 2.5 2.5 __10.0__ 48.5
    lostinashford___ 3.0 2.5 5.0 __ 7.0 __ 5.0 3.5 0.5 __ 5.0 __ 0.5 4.0 _ 10.0__ 46.0
    nilhg _________3.0 0.5 3.0 __ 3.0 __ 3.5 1.5 3.5 __ 6.5 __ 2.0 2.0 __ 6.5__ 35.0
    westmidlands __ 1.0 2.0 1.5 __ 6.0 __ 1.5 3.0 1.5 __ 7.0__ 3.5 0.5 __ 7.0__ 34.5
    sunflower3 ____ 2.0 1.5 0.5 __ 4.0 __ 4.0 2.0 3.5 __ 5.0 __ 2.0 3.5 __ 6.5__ 34.5
    dsmythy ______4.0 4.0 3.0 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 3.0 1.0 __ 3.0 __ 4.5 5.0 __ 2.0___ 33.5
    dasa29 _______ 0.0 0.0 2.0 __ 0.5 __ 5.0 1.5 5.0 _ 12.0 __ 1.5 4.0 __ 0.0___ 31.5
    Bsal _________ 4.0 2.5 1.5 __ 4.5 __ 3.5 3.5 0.5 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 4.0 __ 3.0___ 31.0
    Lumi _________ 1.0 1.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 4.0 1.0 2.5 __ 3.0 __ 1.0 1.0 __ 5.0___ 29.0
    John mac _____ 4.5 1.0 0.5 __ 1.5 __ 2.5 2.5 2.5 __ 4.0 __ 1.0 1.0 __ 5.0___26.0
    force eleven ___ 5.0 0.5 2.0 __ 2.5 __ 1.5 2.5 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.5 3.0 __ 4.0___ 22.5
    pauldry _______5.0 1.0 0.0 __ 2.0 __ 2.5 4.5 0.0 __ 1.5 __ 0.0 4.5 __ 1.0___ 22.0
    Strasser ______ 1.0 0.0 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.0 0.0 1.0 __ 0.5 __ 1.0 2.5 __ 1.5____ 8.5
    __________________________________

    (after compiling this, I had a look at the summer seasonal summary on the met.ie website. They now give 31.0 at Dooks, Kerry as the new seasonal high. However, as I normally go by the MS, I am inclined to stick with the scoring already worked out. Using this new figure (same date so that half would not change) would make very small adjustments for most and eskimocat would benefit the most by about 1.5 points. So if it doesn't affect the overall outcome very much I guess it's a moot point. Also the rounding of sunshine percentages and shorter length of June appears to have given 114 rather than 112 per cent of normal sunshine in the seasonal. That too would adjust some scores slightly. However the rules stated average of the three months. That 114 was just over 113.5 and my 112 was 112.33 so with all the rounding involved, you get a 2% difference in round numbers. Anyway, the rainfall will likely decide how this ends up. We have an amount of 48.4 mm in late July at Dunsany (I am going to go with calendar day rather than any 24-hr as that was implied by giving a date). Our contest leader is very close to those data, so will win for sure if there isn't a bigger rainfall in September. The main challenge would come from omicron who has 50.0 mm on 20 September. It might not be quite enough but nobody in between has much chance because they have lower amounts on earlier dates than harps. In my case, with a lower amount and a date at the end of September, I am basically stymied by omicron since no outcome can give me more points than he would get. So I would say harps probably has this sewn up with omicron possibly second if we get a very late heavy rainfall.

    Final report then after 30 September (of course we could also see a new max but that seems next to impossible).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Final scores in the Summer 2013 contest


    FORECASTER ___ IMT J,J,A _ IMT _ PRC J,J,A _ PRC _ TMAX _ date _ Rmax _ date _ SUN _ SCORE so far
    Max points ________ 5 5 5 __ 15 ____ 5 5 5 __ 15 ____ 5 ___ 5 ____ 5 ___ 5 ___ 10 ___ 100___________________________________________________________________________________


    harps ________ 4.0 4.0 3.5 _ 12.0 __ 3.5 1.5 4.5 _ 11.0 __ 4.5 1.5 __ 5.0 5.0 __ 10.0__ 70.0
    talkabout _____ 0.5 3.0 5.0 _ 13.0 __ 3.5 4.5 4.0 __ 9.0 __ 3.0 1.0 __ 1.0 3.5 ___10.0__ 61.0
    DOCARCH ____ 3.0 3.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 5.0 4.5 3.5 __ 9.0 __ 5.0 5.0 __ 3.5 2.0 ___ 6.5___ 59.5
    Joe Public _____ 0.5 4.5 4.5 _ 15.0 __ 0.5 5.0 3.0 _ 13.0__ 1.5 2.0 __ 2.0 3.0 ___ 4.0 __ 58.5
    omicron ______ 3.0 5.0 4.0 _ 12.0 __ 0.5 5.0 2.5 __ 3.0 __ 5.0 3.0 __ 4.5 0.5 ___10.0__ 58.0
    jpmarn _______ 4.0 5.0 1.5 _ 12.0 __ 1.0 0.0 5.0 _ 15.0 __ 4.0 3.5 __ 4.5 1.5 ___ 0.5 __ 57.5
    traecy.1 ______ 2.0 3.0 3.5 __ 7.0 __ 3.5 4.5 2.5 __ 6.0 __ 4.0 4.5 __ 4.0 3.0 ___10.0__ 57.5

    Consensus ____ 3.0 2.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 5.0 4.5 2.5 __ 6.5 __ 2.0 4.5 __ 4.5 3.5 ___10.0__ 57.5

    eskimocat _____2.0 3.0 5.0 __ 8.0 __ 5.0 2.5 2.5 __ 5.5 __ 2.5 2.5 __ 1.5 4.5 ___10.0__ 54.5
    M.T. Cranium __ 0.0 4.5 3.5 _ 14.0 __ 2.0 2.5 4.0 _ 15.0 __ 4.0 0.5 __ 1.5 0.0 ___ 2.0 _ 53.5
    Rickylovesuall _ 4.5 4.0 4.0 _ 12.0 __ 1.0 3.5 4.5 _ 11.0 __ 3.0 1.5 __ 0.0 1.5 ___ 1.5__ 52.0
    lostinashford___ 3.0 2.5 5.0 __ 7.0 __ 5.0 3.5 0.5 __ 5.0 __ 0.5 4.0 _ 0.5 4.0 ___10.0__ 50.5
    westmidlands __ 1.0 2.0 1.5 __ 6.0 __ 1.5 3.0 1.5 __ 7.0__ 3.5 0.5 __ 4.0 3.5 ___ 7.0__ 42.0
    sunflower3 ____ 2.0 1.5 0.5 __ 4.0 __ 4.0 2.0 3.5 __ 5.0 __ 2.0 3.5 __ 5.0 2.5 ___ 6.5 _ 42.0
    dsmythy ______4.0 4.0 3.0 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 3.0 1.0 __ 3.0 __ 4.5 5.0 __ 2.5 5.0 ___ 2.0__ 41.0
    nilhg _________3.0 0.5 3.0 __ 3.0 __ 3.5 1.5 3.5 __ 6.5 __ 2.0 2.0 __ 1.0 4.5 ___ 6.5 __ 40.5
    Bsal _________ 4.0 2.5 1.5 __ 4.5 __ 3.5 3.5 0.5 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 4.0 __ 3.5 3.0 ___ 3.0 __ 37.5
    Lumi _________ 1.0 1.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 4.0 1.0 2.5 __ 3.0 __ 1.0 1.0 __ 3.5 2.5 ___ 5.0__ 35.0
    dasa29 _______ 0.0 0.0 2.0 __ 0.5 __ 5.0 1.5 5.0 _ 12.0 __ 1.5 4.0 __ 0.5 0.5 ___ 0.0 __ 32.5
    John mac _____ 4.5 1.0 0.5 __ 1.5 __ 2.5 2.5 2.5 __ 4.0 __ 1.0 1.0 __ 0.0 0.0 ___10.0___31.0
    force eleven ___ 5.0 0.5 2.0 __ 2.5 __ 1.5 2.5 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.5 3.0 __ 3.5 4.5 ___ 4.0 __ 30.5
    pauldry _______5.0 1.0 0.0 __ 2.0 __ 2.5 4.5 0.0 __ 1.5 __ 0.0 4.5 __ 2.0 2.5___ 1.0 ___ 26.5
    Strasser ______ 1.0 0.0 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.0 0.0 1.0 __ 0.5 __ 1.0 2.5 __ 2.5 2.0 ___ 1.5___ 13.0

    _________________________________________________

    As discussed a month ago, the maximum rainfall of 48.4 mm on 25 July at Dunsany was not yet settled. The heaviest amount in September of 38 mm on the 28th at Sherkin Island almost matched my forecast but didn't change the result. So the above list is now finalized .. one minor change was made to John Mac's sunshine score when I noticed an error in the table (spotted because of an error in the rainfall forecast, template being used was not corrected for his entries in those categories).

    Congratulations to Harps for a decisive win with Talkabout and DOCARCH in the medals. Thanks for playing and watch for the winter forecast contest announcement in November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    Congratulations Harps, massive score!! good for you. :)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Just to say here, thanks to MT for all your hard work in running the seasonal and monthly contests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭talkabout


    Congrats Harps and thanks to MT for all the hard work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    Not had a lot of free time recently so only seeing this now

    I tried to put some sort of effort into it instead of picking figures out of my head but still shocked that I actually won the thing! The CFS monthly forecast gave me a helping hand and the rainfall prediction gave a nice boost, a good consistent score across most categories though. Great to finally beat Con Sensus as well :D

    Thanks as always for the effort MT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,815 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    'Twas a good effort indeed ... unlike my edited table which I didn't check very carefully, here's a better layout of it that makes a bit more sense.

    FORECASTER ___ IMT J,J,A __ IMT __ PRC J,J,A _ PRC _ TMAX, date _ Rmax, date _ SUN _ TOTAL
    __ Max points ___ 5 _ 5 _ 5 __ 15 __ 5 _ 5 _ 5 ___ 15 ___ 5 __ 5 ___ 5 __ 5 ___ 10 ___ 100


    harps ________ 4.0 4.0 3.5 _ 12.0 __ 3.5 1.5 4.5 _ 11.0 __ 4.5 1.5 __ 5.0 5.0 __ 10.0__ 70.0
    talkabout _____ 0.5 3.0 5.0 _ 13.0 __ 3.5 4.5 4.0 __ 9.0 __ 3.0 1.0 __ 1.0 3.5 ___10.0__ 61.0
    DOCARCH ____ 3.0 3.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 5.0 4.5 3.5 __ 9.0 __ 5.0 5.0 __ 3.5 2.0 ___ 6.5___ 59.5
    Joe Public _____ 0.5 4.5 4.5 _ 15.0 __ 0.5 5.0 3.0 _ 13.0__ 1.5 2.0 __ 2.0 3.0 ___ 4.0 __ 58.5
    omicron ______ 3.0 5.0 4.0 _ 12.0 __ 0.5 5.0 2.5 __ 3.0 __ 5.0 3.0 __ 4.5 0.5 ___10.0__ 58.0
    jpmarn _______ 4.0 5.0 1.5 _ 12.0 __ 1.0 0.0 5.0 _ 15.0 __ 4.0 3.5 __ 4.5 1.5 ___ 0.5 __ 57.5
    traecy.1 ______ 2.0 3.0 3.5 __ 7.0 __ 3.5 4.5 2.5 __ 6.0 __ 4.0 4.5 __ 4.0 3.0 ___10.0__ 57.5

    Consensus ____ 3.0 2.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 5.0 4.5 2.5 __ 6.5 __ 2.0 4.5 __ 4.5 3.5 ___10.0__ 57.5

    eskimocat _____2.0 3.0 5.0 __ 8.0 __ 5.0 2.5 2.5 __ 5.5 __ 2.5 2.5 __ 1.5 4.5 ___10.0__ 54.5
    M.T. Cranium __ 0.0 4.5 3.5 _ 14.0 __ 2.0 2.5 4.0 _ 15.0 __ 4.0 0.5 __ 1.5 0.0 ___ 2.0 _ 53.5
    Rickylovesuall _ 4.5 4.0 4.0 _ 12.0 __ 1.0 3.5 4.5 _ 11.0 __ 3.0 1.5 __ 0.0 1.5 ___ 1.5__ 52.0
    lostinashford___ 3.0 2.5 5.0 __ 7.0 __ 5.0 3.5 0.5 __ 5.0 __ 0.5 4.0 _ 0.5 4.0 ___10.0__ 50.5
    westmidlands __ 1.0 2.0 1.5 __ 6.0 __ 1.5 3.0 1.5 __ 7.0__ 3.5 0.5 __ 4.0 3.5 ___ 7.0__ 42.0
    sunflower3 ____ 2.0 1.5 0.5 __ 4.0 __ 4.0 2.0 3.5 __ 5.0 __ 2.0 3.5 __ 5.0 2.5 ___ 6.5 _ 42.0
    dsmythy ______4.0 4.0 3.0 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 3.0 1.0 __ 3.0 __ 4.5 5.0 __ 2.5 5.0 ___ 2.0__ 41.0
    nilhg _________3.0 0.5 3.0 __ 3.0 __ 3.5 1.5 3.5 __ 6.5 __ 2.0 2.0 __ 1.0 4.5 ___ 6.5 __ 40.5
    Bsal _________ 4.0 2.5 1.5 __ 4.5 __ 3.5 3.5 0.5 __ 4.0 __ 0.0 4.0 __ 3.5 3.0 ___ 3.0 __ 37.5
    Lumi _________ 1.0 1.5 3.0 __ 6.0 __ 4.0 1.0 2.5 __ 3.0 __ 1.0 1.0 __ 3.5 2.5 ___ 5.0__ 35.0
    dasa29 _______ 0.0 0.0 2.0 __ 0.5 __ 5.0 1.5 5.0 _ 12.0 __ 1.5 4.0 __ 0.5 0.5 ___ 0.0 __ 32.5
    John mac _____ 4.5 1.0 0.5 __ 1.5 __ 2.5 2.5 2.5 __ 4.0 __ 1.0 1.0 __ 0.0 0.0 ___10.0___31.0
    force eleven ___ 5.0 0.5 2.0 __ 2.5 __ 1.5 2.5 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.5 3.0 __ 3.5 4.5 ___ 4.0 __ 30.5
    pauldry _______5.0 1.0 0.0 __ 2.0 __ 2.5 4.5 0.0 __ 1.5 __ 0.0 4.5 __ 2.0 2.5___ 1.0 ___ 26.5
    Strasser ______ 1.0 0.0 0.0 __ 1.0 __ 0.0 0.0 1.0 __ 0.5 __ 1.0 2.5 __ 2.5 2.0 ___ 1.5___ 13.0

    _________________________________________________


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